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Is this recognised as a real profession?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I remember when my uni told me to give up on my dream, as it wasn't a real career.
Now they are one of the leading universities teaching it.
Don't look down on things you don't understand. "
This.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hard to hear it from your kids though when they say they want to be a youtuber or a gamer when they grow up! No need to work hard in school or go to university in their eyes. |
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"Hard to hear it from your kids though when they say they want to be a youtuber or a gamer when they grow up! No need to work hard in school or go to university in their eyes. "
They're in for a shock if they think it's not hard work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Can you get a mortgage doing it? My friend is a great salesman but couldn't get a mortgage as it wasn't a steady job.
An influencer is a salesperson nothing more or less. Mrs Hinch is a very nice, her success should be admired. Saved the minky from extinction |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's not like if the kids said "I want to be an actor" because then they can be educated on it and there's many different types of actors. But when they hear about people making millions playing Fortnite it's hard work trying to tell them to try hard at homework instead of concentrating on playing games (I can control when and what they play). |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can you get a mortgage doing it? My friend is a great salesman but couldn't get a mortgage as it wasn't a steady job.
An influencer is a salesperson nothing more or less. Mrs Hinch is a very nice, her success should be admired. Saved the minky from extinction "
The most successful ones can probably buy outright anyway 
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"They earn money just like anyone else.
It's often a new form of advertisement."
Indeed.
Generally it's the ones that you see pop up now and again "demanding" X in echange for the advertisement that then gives the others a bad name.
The actual hours (at least early days of their profession) needed to put in is in some cases more than most other jobs. Often starting as a side project along side another job. What you see is only a fraction of what they put in.
Hours of editing, research, reaching out, promotion, using products for reviews, in depth analysis, networking etc (not all of these things are done by all influencers and YouTube channels).
Fair enough some of these come from money already and don't have to put the same work in. They hire people and they end up just being the face of it all.
The world is changing, once upon a time people like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and plenty of computer programmers were likely told "get a real job in manual labour" and now their success has spawned multiple different new fields of professions, lots of those producing other opportunities for work that make the world go around. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's not like if the kids said "I want to be an actor" because then they can be educated on it and there's many different types of actors. But when they hear about people making millions playing Fortnite it's hard work trying to tell them to try hard at homework instead of concentrating on playing games (I can control when and what they play)."
Exactly. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"It's not like if the kids said "I want to be an actor" because then they can be educated on it and there's many different types of actors. But when they hear about people making millions playing Fortnite it's hard work trying to tell them to try hard at homework instead of concentrating on playing games (I can control when and what they play).
Exactly."
Plenty of resources you can show them that document what is required to do the job of a YouTube star/twitch streamer. Ironically on YouTube itself.
Most are working almost 24/7 for at least the first 4 years. Unless they are just that good in tournaments, or get lucky. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"I find it depressing. Thank God there’s still kids aspiring to a profession where they can make a difference."
Depressing how?
Be honest how much do you actually understand about the whole thing other than surface level? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I find it depressing. Thank God there’s still kids aspiring to a profession where they can make a difference."
Well you are helping people buy new phones or new make up brand kits.. one could argue you are making a difference  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I find it depressing. Thank God there’s still kids aspiring to a profession where they can make a difference.
Depressing how?
Be honest how much do you actually understand about the whole thing other than surface level? "
How can she explain if she only understands the surface level? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find it depressing. Thank God there’s still kids aspiring to a profession where they can make a difference.
Depressing how?
Be honest how much do you actually understand about the whole thing other than surface level?
How can she explain if she only understands the surface level? "
A great opportunity to mansplain, I’d have thought. So go for it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I find it depressing. Thank God there’s still kids aspiring to a profession where they can make a difference.
Depressing how?
Be honest how much do you actually understand about the whole thing other than surface level?
How can she explain if she only understands the surface level?
A great opportunity to mansplain, I’d have thought. So go for it."
I want him to explain. This is going to be fun |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
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"I find it depressing. Thank God there’s still kids aspiring to a profession where they can make a difference."
I would tend to agree. I have nothing against the successful 'influencers'; more power to then for the success they've obtained.
The fact they exist and thrive is more a symptom of modern society's social media decandece than anything else. |
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"I can't think who is more pathetic of today's culture, the vacuous so called influencers or the saddos who follow them
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They are just the modern day equivalent of TV celebs. Many seem to love them and follow them. Personally, I've never understood the whole love for celebs of any type.
If you don't like them, just ignore them. I find it worse when people get so worked up by what other people do or like when it doesn't affect them at all. |
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A hundred plus years ago, some people made a living by running "freak shows", showing bearded ladies and people with six fingers etc. Was considered perfectly acceptable at the time, but today, we're horrified. People used to place ads in the big newspapers, selling horribly dangerous concoctions and potions that were supposed to aid with weight loss and impotence and "hysteria" (  ), again, these "influencers" were considered acceptable.
My point?
1) Jobs change over time and what's acceptable in one decade or century is not in the next.
2) Influencers aren't a new thing. Just the mechanism of exerting the influence changes. |
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By *tue555Man
over a year ago
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"'Influencers'"
There are many different kinds of profession. Yes basically if you earn a living from it. But there is also the recognised professions which carry authority with them. Those that are recognised as susch i.e. People who can sign passports etc.
So ultimately there are two kinds of professionals. Those that are and those that have achieved some kind of recognition or status of being a professional. Lawyers, accountants, doctors, teachers etc, me  .
No im not going to go into the use of the FAB use of professional |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"'Influencers'
There are many different kinds of profession. Yes basically if you earn a living from it. But there is also the recognised professions which carry authority with them. Those that are recognised as susch i.e. People who can sign passports etc.
So ultimately there are two kinds of professionals. Those that are and those that have achieved some kind of recognition or status of being a professional. Lawyers, accountants, doctors, teachers etc, me .
No im not going to go into the use of the FAB use of professional "
Think the fab definition is pretty much 'has a bank account' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok, so why not explain to me how what they do actually matters, in the grand scheme of things. "
It can’t be explained in one go. There’s so many different types of influencers for. Your standard beauty ones, to body positivity activists or mental health advocates turned authors, to girls who like fashion who end up making their own clothing brands.
There’s plenty of people in between. A woman I follow a few years back was simply a girl interested in skincare who managed to get rid of her acne and resurface her skin, now she owns a whole skincare brand which helps other women tackle any problems they have with blemishes etc.
It’s not depressing at all. Influencing is how my cousin got to start his own cocktail drinks service, so it isn’t saving someone’s life, but it’s a business doing something he loves and it pays well, my other cousin started her own fashion brand and got a surge of followers thanks to influencers. Her two teenage daughters now work with her and will have great CV’s for their future.
With technology so advanced and social media being so popular this is how the world will go. I don’t see anything wrong with it. |
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"It worries me more than my wee one doesn't get that it's their profession and takes everything they say on board as she thinks they're just being nice  "
This is where guidance and oversight are important (not suggesting you don't, but just reinforcing that kids should be supervised online, that's all). |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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Its inly the same as celebs in the past appearing in adverts endorsing products.
Sis in law, only used buy things with a celeb "atrached".
Its just that the influencers seem to be very poorly regulated and some even seem to not care what they are connected with. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My eldest is a twitch streamer (gaming) and content creator alongside his day job. He is in the top 5% of streamers in America and has sponsorships from all kinds of stuff.
He earns more than enough to pay his mortgage a month. It doesn't come easy...I doesn't happen overnight, it has been 4/5 years in the making.
My youngest kept getting told his life dream was unrealistic....now he works all over the world in his dream job.
Nothing should be shunned or dismissed, it might not be traditional but times are changing.
Do it but do it alongside something else to have that back up |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My eldest is a twitch streamer (gaming) and content creator alongside his day job. He is in the top 5% of streamers in America and has sponsorships from all kinds of stuff.
He earns more than enough to pay his mortgage a month. It doesn't come easy...I doesn't happen overnight, it has been 4/5 years in the making.
My youngest kept getting told his life dream was unrealistic....now he works all over the world in his dream job.
Nothing should be shunned or dismissed, it might not be traditional but times are changing.
Do it but do it alongside something else to have that back up "
That’s amazing!!! X congrats I’m sure you are a very proud mother x |
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"A hundred plus years ago, some people made a living by running "freak shows", showing bearded ladies and people with six fingers etc. Was considered perfectly acceptable at the time, but today, we're horrified. People used to place ads in the big newspapers, selling horribly dangerous concoctions and potions that were supposed to aid with weight loss and impotence and "hysteria" ( ), again, these "influencers" were considered acceptable.
My point?
1) Jobs change over time and what's acceptable in one decade or century is not in the next.
2) Influencers aren't a new thing. Just the mechanism of exerting the influence changes."
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"My eldest is a twitch streamer (gaming) and content creator alongside his day job. He is in the top 5% of streamers in America and has sponsorships from all kinds of stuff.
He earns more than enough to pay his mortgage a month. It doesn't come easy...I doesn't happen overnight, it has been 4/5 years in the making.
My youngest kept getting told his life dream was unrealistic....now he works all over the world in his dream job.
Nothing should be shunned or dismissed, it might not be traditional but times are changing.
Do it but do it alongside something else to have that back up "
Fantastic! Excellent advice too |
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I actually follow a - I think content creator rather than influencer - who promotes breaking down the facts and approaching things using critical thinking.
(Things are, like, entertainment news and the legal spin on that)
She does have sponsorships but she doesn't sell products. I think a way of introducing or reinforcing critical thinking is no bad thing. |
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