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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged? |
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"Well the hypocrisy here is revealing .. the MP slagging of Newcastle United Fans having fun presumably has his petrol tank filled up with Saudi oil .. "
Probably doesn't wear a tea towel while he's doing it though? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Well the hypocrisy here is revealing .. the MP slagging of Newcastle United Fans having fun presumably has his petrol tank filled up with Saudi oil ..
Probably doesn't wear a tea towel while he's doing it though? "
No. And that shows the hypocrisy.. |
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over a year ago
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I guess it all depends on how the Saudi’s feel about it...I hate any kind of racial stereotyping if there is an undertone of inciting tension and division but I don’t think that was the case at all as I’m sure the Newcastle fans were doing it as a sign of unity to welcome the new owners and show they are happy about the takeover. However, I’m a Wolves fan and we were bought out by a Chinese company a few years ago and I’m sure there would have been uproar if our fans would have turned up to a game wearing stereotypical Chinese clothes and stretching our eyes like people used to do many years ago even though the sentiment would have been the same, and to be honest I wouldn’t have been happy about our fans doing that.
Why is one less socially acceptable than the other though, and that’s a genuine question because I don’t know the answer or why I consider one acceptable and the other not. |
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"Caused a right dis-turban-ce I bet!"
making wee jokes at others cultural heritage is unacceptable in a progressive modern boring joyless self sanctimonious society which is why i never call anyone jock taff or paddy even when they tell me to  |
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"I'll ask my Saudis for their opinions tomorrow 
And how many Saudis would that be?
15, I believe
A great straw pole against tens of thousands of joyful fans then..."
I wonder what your Saudis will say, Tom? How many will you ask? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I'll ask my Saudis for their opinions tomorrow
And how many Saudis would that be?
15, I believe
A great straw pole against tens of thousands of joyful fans then...
I wonder what your Saudis will say, Tom? How many will you ask? "
I will be interested to hear your feedback.. you pledged to ask them...I see see joyous football fans...others see something different.. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Caused a right dis-turban-ce I bet!
making wee jokes at others cultural heritage is unacceptable in a progressive modern boring joyless self sanctimonious society which is why i never call anyone jock taff or paddy even when they tell me to "
Classic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant."
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
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Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you? |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?"
A bit of fun???
Its disgusting |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you?"
And a very small per cent of Newcastle fans wore Arabian headress ... |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you?
And a very small per cent of Newcastle fans wore Arabian headress ..."
Does that make it right? |
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you?
And a very small per cent of Newcastle fans wore Arabian headress ..."
Do you mean keffiyeh? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you?
And a very small per cent of Newcastle fans wore Arabian headress ...
Do you mean keffiyeh?"
No. Now snooze time for me.
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you?
And a very small per cent of Newcastle fans wore Arabian headress ...
Do you mean keffiyeh?
No. Now snooze time for me.
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If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap? "
I like your thinking... |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking..."
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking...
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
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Come on Yasmeen.. you know I have my own opinions  |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking...
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
Come on Yasmeen.. you know I have my own opinions "
You don't you read the
Sun
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking...
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
Come on Yasmeen.. you know I have my own opinions
You don't you read the
Sun
"
I read most newspapers  |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking...
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
Come on Yasmeen.. you know I have my own opinions
You don't you read the
Sun
I read most newspapers "
Seems like it then grab the headlines for here? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking...
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
Come on Yasmeen.. you know I have my own opinions
You don't you read the
Sun
I read most newspapers
Seems like it then grab the headlines for here?"
I like the news |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap?
I like your thinking...
Have your own
Opinion
Tom
Instead of grabbing them from
Newspapers
Come on Yasmeen.. you know I have my own opinions
You don't you read the
Sun
I read most newspapers
Seems like it then grab the headlines for here?
I like to snooze "
Ok
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?"
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted."
It's a distraction technique to divert attention from the real injustices.. |
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
It's a distraction technique to divert attention from the real injustices.. "
Of course some people clearly see it some don't.
I'd take no morale advice of politicians than stole money is expenses claims and have been robbing the public blind for years.
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted."
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
It's a distraction technique to divert attention from the real injustices..
Of course some people clearly see it some don't.
I'd take no morale advice of politicians than stole money is expenses claims and have been robbing the public blind for years.
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I do see some validity in that. That expenses scandal was abhorrent and went from backbench to front bench.. they did find one backbencher who had never blagged the system.. He should have been made PM.. and for some reason.. the claims of Tony Blair were never found ? Is that true ? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE"
AKA in Newcastle.. Arabian headress or AKA a tea towell x |
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
wirral |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE"
I'm not aware of this fully.
But what can I do about that?
I can at least help feed hungry people and get water wells built.
It's crazy in this time that hungry is still an issue. The amount of food that is wasted in certain countries is crazy.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
I'm not aware of this fully.
But what can I do about that?
I can at least help feed hungry people and get water wells built.
It's crazy in this time that hungry is still an issue. The amount of food that is wasted in certain countries is crazy.
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Agreed and some more interested in mudslinging and party points and pathetic identify politics.. |
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
AKA in Newcastle.. Arabian headress or AKA a tea towell x"
Why must you be offensive about everything? It's really very unpleasant. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
AKA in Newcastle.. Arabian headress or AKA a tea towell x
Why must you be offensive about everything? It's really very unpleasant. "
The offensive part is those who cannot discuss sexuality without branding others transphobic |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
AKA in Newcastle.. Arabian headress or AKA a tea towell x
Why must you be offensive about everything? It's really very unpleasant. "
I really am not offensive.. what is offending you appears to be those with a different view. |
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
I'm not aware of this fully.
But what can I do about that?
I can at least help feed hungry people and get water wells built.
It's crazy in this time that hungry is still an issue. The amount of food that is wasted in certain countries is crazy.
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It might be helpful to have a read about the specific example of the keffiyeh, because it is worn only in Arab countries and for a reason. There are Muslims in many countries who do not wear it traditionally and that is because they are not Arabs. I wholly agree that hunger, poverty etc are important issues. In addition, until we understand each other (people across the various spectrums), we will never resolve such issues because someone, somewhere will always find conflict and blame.
And describing a very important ethnic symbol as a tea towel, something you wipe the pots with, is actually not very pleasant. At least it should be called by the proper name. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
AKA in Newcastle.. Arabian headress or AKA a tea towell x
Why must you be offensive about everything? It's really very unpleasant. "
Do you really think the average Newcastle fan with hope of investment and wears a homemade head dress cares a monkeys what it is called. ?
Your out of touch with reality |
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
I'm not aware of this fully.
But what can I do about that?
I can at least help feed hungry people and get water wells built.
It's crazy in this time that hungry is still an issue. The amount of food that is wasted in certain countries is crazy.
It might be helpful to have a read about the specific example of the keffiyeh, because it is worn only in Arab countries and for a reason. There are Muslims in many countries who do not wear it traditionally and that is because they are not Arabs. I wholly agree that hunger, poverty etc are important issues. In addition, until we understand each other (people across the various spectrums), we will never resolve such issues because someone, somewhere will always find conflict and blame.
And describing a very important ethnic symbol as a tea towel, something you wipe the pots with, is actually not very pleasant. At least it should be called by the proper name. "
That's what some of the fans used.. you are confusing those facts with some perceived desire to try and educate those who do not want to be exucated. They just want to win the FA cup |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Go to your 12 Arabian students tomorrow and ask them how they feel that Newcastle fans used cloths that are used to clean pots were worn which disrepected their cultural clothing.
Or
Ask the same students how they feel that the fans were so excited about the takeover that they made homemade tributes to welcome their new owners and are so happy that they can share in future footballing success.
You choose how you word your question.. I wonder how the replies may differ ... |
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There were lots of fans who did this, some bought from fancy dress shops, it was just a bit of fun, but I did read on the NUFC page that someone is saying it’s racist……
Another kick in the teeth for us really, we can’t do right…. |
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"There were lots of fans who did this, some bought from fancy dress shops, it was just a bit of fun, but I did read on the NUFC page that someone is saying it’s racist……
Another kick in the teeth for us really, we can’t do right…."
You can do right.. the critics are blinded by the fog on the Tyne..
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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"Quite a few Newcastle united fans wore Arabian style head dresses such as teatowells to the first match since the buyout. I think it was just a bit of fun. Some MPs say they are shocked. Anybody outraged?
I'm not outraged or shocked or crying. Nor do I find it abhorrent or any other word they use to make to sound dramatic.
They are football fans showing support to the new owner.
Same thing with the fellaini wigs and Spanish flags or shirts when torres signed for liverpool.
People think to much into things these days and will always find something to be offended about.
I worry more about children dying of lack of food and water each day. So I make sure I help raise money and help them. I'll get to the other stuff on the list once this is sorted.
If your concern is more on the scale of children dying etc, then I'm sure you're aware that the keffiyeh is a potent symbol of the Palestinian people and is considered highly symbolic of their struggle. The keffiyeh is worn by Arabs around the world in solidarity with the people of Palestine. It's not a religious symbol, which many mistake it for.
I can't link to the site, but if you search engine this title, you can read about it:
THE HISTORY OF KEFFIYEH: A TRADITIONAL SCARF FROM PALESTINE
I'm not aware of this fully.
But what can I do about that?
I can at least help feed hungry people and get water wells built.
It's crazy in this time that hungry is still an issue. The amount of food that is wasted in certain countries is crazy.
It might be helpful to have a read about the specific example of the keffiyeh, because it is worn only in Arab countries and for a reason. There are Muslims in many countries who do not wear it traditionally and that is because they are not Arabs. I wholly agree that hunger, poverty etc are important issues. In addition, until we understand each other (people across the various spectrums), we will never resolve such issues because someone, somewhere will always find conflict and blame.
And describing a very important ethnic symbol as a tea towel, something you wipe the pots with, is actually not very pleasant. At least it should be called by the proper name. "
Because people see the same thing in different ways, we will all never agree on complicated issue never mind simply ones.
I don't try to convince anyone of anything but neither do I get offended by anything.
I just accept its urge way it is and do my bit to make a difference that I can. As I'm sure most people do. |
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"There were lots of fans who did this, some bought from fancy dress shops, it was just a bit of fun, but I did read on the NUFC page that someone is saying it’s racist……
Another kick in the teeth for us really, we can’t do right….
You can do right.. the critics are blinded by the fog on the Tyne..
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Really…. Lol x |
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There's such a fine line nowadays between getting behind someone/showing supportive and being racist. If they'd had a German manager and wore lederhosen, would that be seen as a racist problem or a bit of dress up fun in support? |
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"There's such a fine line nowadays between getting behind someone/showing supportive and being racist. If they'd had a German manager and wore lederhosen, would that be seen as a racist problem or a bit of dress up fun in support?"
Is lederhosen worn as a symbol of the oppression of the German people, their struggle to survive etc etc?
The best analogy I can think of would perhaps be if another nationality disrespected the symbol of the poppy, which symbolises remembrance of the suffering of war in UK culture. Most other countries might not see any special value in a paper poppy, but massive debates have been generated in international sports due to the wearing or non wearing of this seemingly innocuous symbol by UK teams. |
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"There's such a fine line nowadays between getting behind someone/showing supportive and being racist. If they'd had a German manager and wore lederhosen, would that be seen as a racist problem or a bit of dress up fun in support?
Is lederhosen worn as a symbol of the oppression of the German people, their struggle to survive etc etc?
The best analogy I can think of would perhaps be if another nationality disrespected the symbol of the poppy, which symbolises remembrance of the suffering of war in UK culture. Most other countries might not see any special value in a paper poppy, but massive debates have been generated in international sports due to the wearing or non wearing of this seemingly innocuous symbol by UK teams. "
You can't even put a poppy on social media without someone getting offended! |
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"There's such a fine line nowadays between getting behind someone/showing supportive and being racist. If they'd had a German manager and wore lederhosen, would that be seen as a racist problem or a bit of dress up fun in support?
Is lederhosen worn as a symbol of the oppression of the German people, their struggle to survive etc etc?
The best analogy I can think of would perhaps be if another nationality disrespected the symbol of the poppy, which symbolises remembrance of the suffering of war in UK culture. Most other countries might not see any special value in a paper poppy, but massive debates have been generated in international sports due to the wearing or non wearing of this seemingly innocuous symbol by UK teams.
You can't even put a poppy on social media without someone getting offended!"
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"Well the hypocrisy here is revealing .. the MP slagging of Newcastle United Fans having fun presumably has his petrol tank filled up with Saudi oil ..
Probably doesn't wear a tea towel while he's doing it though?
No. And that shows the hypocrisy.. "
Not really the same thing though.
Using someone’s products vs a half-arsed imitation or their national dress with a tea towel ... which people are tripping over themselves to interpret as racism or cultural appropriation without checking if the supposed victims are actually offended. |
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"There's such a fine line nowadays between getting behind someone/showing supportive and being racist. If they'd had a German manager and wore lederhosen, would that be seen as a racist problem or a bit of dress up fun in support?
Is lederhosen worn as a symbol of the oppression of the German people, their struggle to survive etc etc?
The best analogy I can think of would perhaps be if another nationality disrespected the symbol of the poppy, which symbolises remembrance of the suffering of war in UK culture. Most other countries might not see any special value in a paper poppy, but massive debates have been generated in international sports due to the wearing or non wearing of this seemingly innocuous symbol by UK teams. "
Flowers / symbols often mean different things in different countries. If another country use the symbol of the poppy in a different way, that’s up to them. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"There's such a fine line nowadays between getting behind someone/showing supportive and being racist. If they'd had a German manager and wore lederhosen, would that be seen as a racist problem or a bit of dress up fun in support?
Is lederhosen worn as a symbol of the oppression of the German people, their struggle to survive etc etc?
The best analogy I can think of would perhaps be if another nationality disrespected the symbol of the poppy, which symbolises remembrance of the suffering of war in UK culture. Most other countries might not see any special value in a paper poppy, but massive debates have been generated in international sports due to the wearing or non wearing of this seemingly innocuous symbol by UK teams. "
And the survey result please ? |
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"If we all buy electric cars the Saudis will be bankrupt soon & so will Newcastle. I think they are buying up the UK bit by bit to ensure we keep buying their oil.
We have lockdowns to prevent travel, reduce emissions, sky high gas & petrol prices. Is the whole thing stage managed to curb human activity by stealth & fold lots of private companies & regain state control on the cheap? "
They're already diversifying. |
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If they had used oven gloves would the MP have been concerned they were taking the mickey out of Huckleberry Hound? (may be a bit dated for some of you) Hu-wee Musky! |
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"I guess it all depends on how the Saudi’s feel about it...I hate any kind of racial stereotyping if there is an undertone of inciting tension and division but I don’t think that was the case at all as I’m sure the Newcastle fans were doing it as a sign of unity to welcome the new owners and show they are happy about the takeover. However, I’m a Wolves fan and we were bought out by a Chinese company a few years ago and I’m sure there would have been uproar if our fans would have turned up to a game wearing stereotypical Chinese clothes and stretching our eyes like people used to do many years ago even though the sentiment would have been the same, and to be honest I wouldn’t have been happy about our fans doing that.
Why is one less socially acceptable than the other though, and that’s a genuine question because I don’t know the answer or why I consider one acceptable and the other not. "
Under currents and terms used show the clear deep rooted. Bias and true feelings.
Those who know,know their full actions. Keyboard at its finest yet again the very tool used so many will attack and cannibalise on eachother,and make way for the chosen few to take full control and power once the Lesser's wipe themselves out. Lol |
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over a year ago
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"I guess it all depends on how the Saudi’s feel about it...I hate any kind of racial stereotyping if there is an undertone of inciting tension and division but I don’t think that was the case at all as I’m sure the Newcastle fans were doing it as a sign of unity to welcome the new owners and show they are happy about the takeover. However, I’m a Wolves fan and we were bought out by a Chinese company a few years ago and I’m sure there would have been uproar if our fans would have turned up to a game wearing stereotypical Chinese clothes and stretching our eyes like people used to do many years ago even though the sentiment would have been the same, and to be honest I wouldn’t have been happy about our fans doing that.
Why is one less socially acceptable than the other though, and that’s a genuine question because I don’t know the answer or why I consider one acceptable and the other not.
Under currents and terms used show the clear deep rooted. Bias and true feelings.
Those who know,know their full actions. Keyboard at its finest yet again the very tool used so many will attack and cannibalise on eachother,and make way for the chosen few to take full control and power once the Lesser's wipe themselves out. Lol"
A stunning summary of where we are, I salute you for breaking it down so we can understand |
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Never got the sentiment of somebody being offended on behalf of somebody else, I'm sure if the Saudis don't like it they will talk with the fans groups themselves. |
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over a year ago
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"Never got the sentiment of somebody being offended on behalf of somebody else, I'm sure if the Saudis don't like it they will talk with the fans groups themselves. "
Just like the Exeter Chiefs..
Snowflakes in tears and red Indians just cheer .. |
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Was this the SNP MP? Who was sickened not because of this being racist but because of celebrating by being bought by the guy who ordered a hit on the journalist ?
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"This joke is far less of a worry in comparison to the widespread criticism of the Middle East country’s poor human rights record!
I don’t think this trivia will offend peeps that realise there’s no helping the ignorant.
And we still put petrol in our cars ..
Never mind the nonsense ‘whataboutary’ you do know that only a very small per cent age of petrol in the UK comes from Saudi don’t you?
And a very small per cent of Newcastle fans wore Arabian headress ...
Does that make it right?"
Another Tommy name sake. At it again. Cant help it, its very catching heh.
Passes the time. Very high level IQ and intellect.
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"Was this the SNP MP? Who was sickened not because of this being racist but because of celebrating by being bought by the guy who ordered a hit on the journalist ?
Yes, the same guy who puts 4 star petrol in his car most days.. sorry .. unleaded to ease his conscience..
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense |
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"The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense "
This is what the Newcastle board are spending their time on while the team sits in the relegation zone? |
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"The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense "
... the only recent victory for Newcastle fans! |
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"The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense
... the only recent victory for Newcastle fans! "
To be fair the Newcastle club has long been called a sleeping giant and that giant is waking from his long snooze. They will be a top four club within two years... |
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"The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense
... the only recent victory for Newcastle fans!
To be fair the Newcastle club has long been called a sleeping giant and that giant is waking from his long snooze. They will be a top four club within two years... "
Could very easily be top 4 next season, and might even get promoted |
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"The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense
... the only recent victory for Newcastle fans!
To be fair the Newcastle club has long been called a sleeping giant and that giant is waking from his long snooze. They will be a top four club within two years...
Could very easily be top 4 next season, and might even get promoted "
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"The Newsastle Board have changed their stance and have released a statement thanking and welcoming fans to dress as they like including the Lawrence of Arabia head dresses. A victory for common sense
... the only recent victory for Newcastle fans!
To be fair the Newcastle club has long been called a sleeping giant and that giant is waking from his long snooze. They will be a top four club within two years...
Could very easily be top 4 next season, and might even get promoted "
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"I read the title of this and thought it was going to be about school nativity plays.
Goes to show I don't take much notice of football news
Katie."
It’s similar though, audience sitting there thinking I wish I didn’t have to watch this shite but I had better pretend I’m interested |
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"Was this the SNP MP? Who was sickened not because of this being racist but because of celebrating by being bought by the guy who ordered a hit on the journalist ?
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How an MP can try and take any moral high ground whilst the UK do over £6bn in trade with Saudi Arabia is ridiculous. Although the hit on the journalist is disgusting, our government are hardly innocent either |
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