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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Where the hell is all this electricity going to come from? Electric cars, electric boilers and electric powering the heat source pumps! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 public charging points. Cars queuing for fuel a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got flat batteries! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be charged!  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Where the hell is all this electricity going to come from? Electric cars, electric boilers and electric powering the heat source pumps! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 public charging points. Cars queuing for fuel a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got flat batteries! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be charged! "
Solar, wind, you know… all that green energy to relieve the reliance on gas and oil (seen the price of a barrel today…. Beautiful!)
I don’t see the problem with promoting electric vehicles…. As long as that is the direction the car manufacturers are going anyway, then it’s a part of a solution to a much larger issue |
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"Where the hell is all this electricity going to come from? Electric cars, electric boilers and electric powering the heat source pumps! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 public charging points. Cars queuing for fuel a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got flat batteries! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be charged!
Solar, wind, you know… all that green energy to relieve the reliance on gas and oil (seen the price of a barrel today…. Beautiful!)
I don’t see the problem with promoting electric vehicles…. As long as that is the direction the car manufacturers are going anyway, then it’s a part of a solution to a much larger issue "
In Elizabethan times there wasn't the infrastructure to allow for electric... anything. It was built. |
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From the fab archives... posted 1921
Where the hell is all this oil going to come from? cars, motorcycles and gas powering the central heating! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 petrol stations. Horses queuing for grain a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got empty tanks! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be filled up! |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
yumsville |
The new Toyota Mira has just set a Guinness World Record of 845 miles on a single tank of hydrogen, so could get one of them? You'd only just have to travel 845 miles to fill it up...
https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/hydrogen-fueled-toyota-mirai-sets-guinness-world-record-breaking-845-mile-run |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The new Toyota Mira has just set a Guinness World Record of 845 miles on a single tank of hydrogen, so could get one of them? You'd only just have to travel 845 miles to fill it up...
https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/hydrogen-fueled-toyota-mirai-sets-guinness-world-record-breaking-845-mile-run"
Its the future but id rather get a bus than drive that ugly thing |
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By *an4funMan
over a year ago
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"From the fab archives... posted 1921
Where the hell is all this oil going to come from? cars, motorcycles and gas powering the central heating! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 petrol stations. Horses queuing for grain a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got empty tanks! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be filled up! "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work in the electricity industry and there isn't enough energy capacity in the National Grid to meet the Government targets.
It's a complete nonsense and all it's going to do is make rich people richer and poor people poorer.....you are being conned!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I work in the electricity industry and there isn't enough energy capacity in the National Grid to meet the Government targets.
It's a complete nonsense and all it's going to do is make rich people richer and poor people poorer.....you are being conned!!"
Spot on. |
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"From the fab archives... posted 1921
Where the hell is all this oil going to come from? cars, motorcycles and gas powering the central heating! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 petrol stations. Horses queuing for grain a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got empty tanks! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be filled up! "
No of cars on the road in 1920s...less than 400k.
Population less than 40m.
No of cars on the road today.. Over 33m...
Population over 65m.
It's reasonable that any significant changes are well planned, meet the desired outcome (whatever that may be).
Switching millions of cars to electric (or any other power source) needs significant infrastructure changes and won't just magically appear. We already import 24 Twh of electricity a year. |
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I made the switch to electric (car) earlier in the year. I can charge at home & can use Tesla's supercharger network.
If i couldn't charge easily at home or, had to reply on the sometimes out of order or occupied public charging infrastructure, i'd still be driving a petrol Hybrid right now. |
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We would happily have an electric car - but: We're can't afford one, can't have a home charger, don't have chargers at work, would need an mpv with over 200 miles range.
So it'll be a while before we can get one sadly. |
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A lot of the electricity is “imported”, the whole world is connected via massive cables under the sea/tunnels etc…the best way to describe it is a giant spider web. The same concept can be seen with water, Thames water is London/Thames valley area BUT for example SW/CR/KT postcodes come under Thames water and also SES (Sutton and east Surrey water). Depending on where the pipes/boreholes/pumping stations/resovoir/sewage treatment works pump to and from, will determine which “Supplier” you pay your water bills to.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"A local to me used to run a cable through his front room window, across his front garden and across the pavement to his car.
The council put a stop to that"
Well how else is he going to charge his car! Forward thinking council that. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I work in the electricity industry and there isn't enough energy capacity in the National Grid to meet the Government targets.
It's a complete nonsense and all it's going to do is make rich people richer and poor people poorer.....you are being conned!!"
Exactly where I’m coming from, some have lost my thoughts on the post. |
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"The difference is that you can charge an electric car at home Though the main things putting me off buying one at the moment are cost, range, and availability of chargers on the road.
LvM"
Nope not everyone can, double yellows outside my house and no off street parking, despite the fact we do t have sufficient electricity generation capacity - successive governments have been useless at forward planning. Lots of headline grabbing soundbites but no substance  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A local to me used to run a cable through his front room window, across his front garden and across the pavement to his car.
The council put a stop to that
Well how else is he going to charge his car! Forward thinking council that. "
I think that is the bigger issue... Terraced housing is going to make it very difficult for charging |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It’s not only the physical connection, this is about where is the power going to come from? Other countries can’t provide it as they will be in the same position. It’s all pie in the sky! Plus how the hell do they get rid of old Lithium batteries? They are already pilling up as there has been no decision on what to do with them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They already sell more green electricity than they make. Charging more for the same wigglies in your wires that you can’t tell where they were produced. |
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"Where the hell is all this electricity going to come from? Electric cars, electric boilers and electric powering the heat source pumps! In the whole of the valley I live in (15 miles long) there are 6 public charging points. Cars queuing for fuel a few weeks ago, god help us when we all got flat batteries! Not to mention all the sex toys waiting their turn to be charged! "
Electric cars are nowhere near being a practical option yet. Ok as a commuter car or as a local run-around, but the ranges are pathetic, the cars are too expensive and charging takes too long compared to filling a tank with petrol or diesel.
This may change from and this needs to change if the general line kick are going to buy into it. |
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"A local to me used to run a cable through his front room window, across his front garden and across the pavement to his car.
The council put a stop to that
Well how else is he going to charge his car! Forward thinking council that. "
Blame the council because he bought a car that he had no means of safely charging? |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
I'm not sure if the national grid has the capacity to support the future demand right now but I guess that will need to develop along with the uptake. Other ways of charging or replacing a battery will develop alongside the growth I would imagine. A lot of thinking around electric vehicles seems to be mainly steered by what we do today and not what it will look like in the future. I'm really interested in how this all plays out, I do think it will be for the better. |
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Electric cars do pose a challenge to anyone who has a property that doesn't have a driveway or supplied designated parking space. I know they are looking to relax dropped curb rules. But still makes things difficult for many people without access to such property/facilities at home. I suspect the desirability and price of properties with off road parking will increase as Electric cars become more the norm. Not so good for inner city dwellers in town houses, tight terrest streets, flats or HMOs. |
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"Electric cars do pose a challenge to anyone who has a property that doesn't have a driveway or supplied designated parking space. I know they are looking to relax dropped curb rules. But still makes things difficult for many people without access to such property/facilities at home. I suspect the desirability and price of properties with off road parking will increase as Electric cars become more the norm. Not so good for inner city dwellers in town houses, tight terrest streets, flats or HMOs."
True, I think there needs to be a big push towards cycling and public transport improvements in many citys. If they all had strong public transport systems, the need for cars is greatly reduced |
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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago
Cardiff |
The reason for the gas hike has been caused by a number of things including a Brocken pipe( can't get to the bottom of that) but more importantly wind turbines not generating as much electricity as forecast.
With more and more electronic cars being brought the usage will definitely go up and your right I'm not convinced there will be enough.
The government will loose millions in petrol tax so they will start putting tax on electricity used to charge up cars. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I made the switch to electric (car) earlier in the year. I can charge at home & can use Tesla's supercharger network.
If i couldn't charge easily at home or, had to reply on the sometimes out of order or occupied public charging infrastructure, i'd still be driving a petrol Hybrid right now. "
Do you have a Tesla or something else? I heard the Supercharger network was supposed to be opening up to non-Tesla vehicles, but have never seen anything since stating it had happened. |
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"They already sell more green electricity than they make. Charging more for the same wigglies in your wires that you can’t tell where they were produced. "
Green electricity.... What does that even mean to people.?
I guess the windmills or solar panels or dams, require no materials, that don't require transport, no manufacture, no cables, no installation, no maintenance... Energy just goes zap... straight from the sun to the car.
Not suggesting we don't need to reduce our footprint... Just saying be mindful there's a bigger picture than buying a tesla and job done. |
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"I made the switch to electric (car) earlier in the year. I can charge at home & can use Tesla's supercharger network.
If i couldn't charge easily at home or, had to reply on the sometimes out of order or occupied public charging infrastructure, i'd still be driving a petrol Hybrid right now.
Do you have a Tesla or something else? I heard the Supercharger network was supposed to be opening up to non-Tesla vehicles, but have never seen anything since stating it had happened."
Yes, Model 3 long range.
There's been chatter for ages & it looks like they may open up the network in Norway at some stage soon. still no concreate info whether they'll do it in the UK though. I think they'll be mad as the Supercharger network is one of the main USP's. |
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"I work in the electricity industry and there isn't enough energy capacity in the National Grid to meet the Government targets.
It's a complete nonsense and all it's going to do is make rich people richer and poor people poorer.....you are being conned!!"
Yes indeed.
Powercuts, tax increases and rocketing energy bills for the many not the few. We'll see how well solar and wind fill the gap which successive governments have created. |
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"The difference is that you can charge an electric car at home Though the main things putting me off buying one at the moment are cost, range, and availability of chargers on the road.
LvM"
Same. That's why I went for a hybrid. Which I know can be the worst of both worlds, but I goes like stink and reportedly 82mpg
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Electric cars... 
Ill stick with my dinosaur fueled internal combustion engine that makes lots of loud noises, pops, bangs, grumbles and on the occasion spits fire from her asshole  |
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