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With London cancelling the fireworks display for New Years Eve again this year, it made me question, what would happened if fireworks were banned completely in the UK?
The upside would be that the environment would be cleaner, no hooligans would be causing trouble and no pets would be disturbed.
The downside would be that certain holidays and celebrations would be affected especially Bonfire Night which would probably cease to exist. |
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Cancelled in its usual spot, they took place last year but most didn’t know where unless you lived nearby and it’s likely there will be fireworks again just a different or multiple locations.
Personally I’d like fireworks restricted to main displays only and not in general sale. |
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"Banned completely like none at all, or banned like only professional displays?
I mean banned completely and that includes no displays."
I doubt they ever would.
When was the last time the government totally banned anything that makes money?
They will just increase the tax on them. |
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Problem is a lot of idoits buy the massive ones or the off the back of a lorry ones.
Then decide to let them off in a housing estate where they are very close to the other houses so not only scaring pets but also some people who have nervous problems.
And it not only one night in November or January but usually start in October right away though to January.
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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago
London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact |
Just looked it up and there are eco friendly virtual bonfires on screens, also eco and family friendly light show displays.
I loved bonfires as a kid. Guy Fawkes night without it meant it may as well not exist. Penny for the guy has all but disappeared. I barely remember it was even a thing it has been that long since it existed.
Culture and traditions are rapidly disappearing into the ether. Oh well, we still have Netflix and Spotify. |
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"Banned completely like none at all, or banned like only professional displays?
I mean banned completely and that includes no displays.
I doubt they ever would.
When was the last time the government totally banned anything that makes money?
They will just increase the tax on them. "
I know this wouldn't happen. This is just a what if scenario. I was just asking what if they were banned completely and what would the benefits and consequences be? |
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"Banned completely like none at all, or banned like only professional displays?
I mean banned completely and that includes no displays.
I doubt they ever would.
When was the last time the government totally banned anything that makes money?
They will just increase the tax on them.
I know this wouldn't happen. This is just a what if scenario. I was just asking what if they were banned completely and what would the benefits and consequences be?"
Less injuries and less environmental damage
Less fuckwits setting them off every night between mid October and January 1 (yes it does fray my nerves) |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
Personally I'd love to see them banned partially because for the most part they are not all that special especially when it comes to the shitty backyard family display... Oh wow... Flash of bright light and a bang - a fair few people can relate with their sex life.
The main reason however, I do have compassion for animals, people with certain anxiety and mental health problems, older people, and veterans. Plus these are dangerous explosives that are easily accessible by minors and the... Specifically minded people.
I'd be okay with them being organised displays only. Being set off within a set time frame that you can plan around. And st the very least they have a structure and some visual appeal to them. |
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"Personally I'd love to see them banned partially because for the most part they are not all that special especially when it comes to the shitty backyard family display... Oh wow... Flash of bright light and a bang - a fair few people can relate with their sex life.
The main reason however, I do have compassion for animals, people with certain anxiety and mental health problems, older people, and veterans. Plus these are dangerous explosives that are easily accessible by minors and the... Specifically minded people.
I'd be okay with them being organised displays only. Being set off within a set time frame that you can plan around. And st the very least they have a structure and some visual appeal to them. "
Yeah. You're risking your body for that shitty little bang? Yeesh
Give me an organised display any day |
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I'd like to see them banned. Animals hate them and not good for the environment.
I don't know why they don't do what they done in the Olympics opening ceremony, they used 1000's of drones with LED lights. Looked better than a firework display IMO, no noise and no pollution too. |
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over a year ago
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I would be in favour of banning fireworks except for organised displays. That way you would have advance notice to be able make arrangements for pets.
As well as it would cut down on a lot of accidents to both body and property.
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"I’m all in favour of organised displays only for fireworks. "
Yes I don't think the general public should be allowed to buy them. Too often they fall in to the wrong hands.
Public displays only would definitely be my preference but equally I would lose no sleep at all if they were banned altogether. |
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Public displays do look nice but I can't help but think it limits the participation in celebrating Bonfire Night or New Years. I maybe wrong on that point.
To be honest, I'm not keen on public displays really. Apart from seeing a good firework display, it could get pretty crowded with people in front of you blocking your view, the food could be of poor quality and overpriced and finding a parking space could be a nightmare. |
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Imagine the opposite, no fireworks and someone invents them and goes on to Dragons Den to try and sell the concept.
So you want to sell explosives to the general public? Asks the gruff Scottish one.
Yes, I say .. but they make pretty colours in the sky.
I’m out, says the gruff Scottish one  |
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I wish they would get banned for the general public. They're more trouble and nuisance than they worth in the hands of amateurs and idiots.
Leave it to licensed professionals to put on a large.
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over a year ago
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"I wish they would get banned for the general public. They're more trouble and nuisance than they worth in the hands of amateurs and idiots.
Leave it to licensed professionals to put on a large.
LvM "
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I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding. |
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"Personally I'd love to see them banned partially because for the most part they are not all that special especially when it comes to the shitty backyard family display... Oh wow... Flash of bright light and a bang - a fair few people can relate with their sex life.
The main reason however, I do have compassion for animals, people with certain anxiety and mental health problems, older people, and veterans. Plus these are dangerous explosives that are easily accessible by minors and the... Specifically minded people.
I'd be okay with them being organised displays only. Being set off within a set time frame that you can plan around. And st the very least they have a structure and some visual appeal to them. "
Then you get that special someone who sticks a large rocket, in the ground and lights it. He was concerned about the rocket falling on someone, he wasn't bothered about us all being in the blast range when it went off. |
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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago
Leeds + Newcastle |
I think they should be banned for sale to the general public, with only organised displays to be allowed.
They are, after all, mini little explosives. They don't have a place to be sold in Asda |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Black market sale would shoot though the roof
Bans never work all thay crate is criminals "
It worked in New Zealand ,no one gets why we sell them in shops they think we’re nuts …it just takes time kids don’t miss what they never had |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding."
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Black market sale would shoot though the roof
Bans never work all thay crate is criminals
It worked in New Zealand ,no one gets why we sell them in shops they think we’re nuts …it just takes time kids don’t miss what they never had "
Lol but they burn rubber summernats |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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Ban organise displays and you would just get loads of illegal displays in people's gardens. Already from the beginning of Nov through to the end of Jan we get random fireworks going off in the neighbourhood so imagine it would be ten times worse. |
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"Ban organise displays and you would just get loads of illegal displays in people's gardens. Already from the beginning of Nov through to the end of Jan we get random fireworks going off in the neighbourhood so imagine it would be ten times worse."
Imagine being so brazen as to literally set off a display that you've engaged in criminal activity  |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads."
Tell people not to be dickheads.... 2020 is a distant memory then...  |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Tell people not to be dickheads.... 2020 is a distant memory then... "
No. Set rules and enforce them. I know damn well it didn't work in 2020 - so we need to change that. If you can't behave in a civilised fashion you need to be thrown out. |
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By *yrdsisWoman
over a year ago
Gleam Street |
Considering we had an hour of fireworks going off at around 3:30am this morning, waking us up and terrifying the dog...I'm all for a ban bar organised didplays.. and even then, there will always be some eedjit prepared to sell them on unfortunately
I love displays too... |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads."
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out. |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out."
So... This is why we can't have nice things? |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out."
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering? |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out.
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering? "
With fireworks banned, more people would want to go to an organised display which could cause problems. |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out.
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering?
With fireworks banned, more people would want to go to an organised display which could cause problems."
Arrange more. Sell tickets. Have security.
Or - ban everything that people want so badly that some people will get violent over it. Let's start with toilet paper. |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out.
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering?
With fireworks banned, more people would want to go to an organised display which could cause problems.
Arrange more. Sell tickets. Have security.
Or - ban everything that people want so badly that some people will get violent over it. Let's start with toilet paper."
I vote in favour of the three shell system! 
LvM |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out.
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering?
With fireworks banned, more people would want to go to an organised display which could cause problems.
Arrange more. Sell tickets. Have security.
Or - ban everything that people want so badly that some people will get violent over it. Let's start with toilet paper.
I vote in favour of the three shell system!
LvM"
I just don't see how - some people are morons, therefore it can't be done - is a system.
Some people are morons. Does that mean we should ruin everything else?
(Sometimes yes - apparently one of the worst nights to work in a children's hospital is bonfire night. That's a reason to regulate, because the risk might not be worth the benefit. Sometimes no - people become violent over anything, apparently - regulate them and leave us be) |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out.
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering?
With fireworks banned, more people would want to go to an organised display which could cause problems.
Arrange more. Sell tickets. Have security.
Or - ban everything that people want so badly that some people will get violent over it. Let's start with toilet paper.
I vote in favour of the three shell system!
LvM
I just don't see how - some people are morons, therefore it can't be done - is a system.
Some people are morons. Does that mean we should ruin everything else?
(Sometimes yes - apparently one of the worst nights to work in a children's hospital is bonfire night. That's a reason to regulate, because the risk might not be worth the benefit. Sometimes no - people become violent over anything, apparently - regulate them and leave us be)"
Hey don't shoot, I was just making a Demolition Man reference
LvM |
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"I've noticed that if organised displays were still given the go ahead while fireworks are banned, I think there could be a risk of displayes being overcrowded as all families with kids would want to go and potential fights could break out over parking or overcrowding.
So you get crowd control/security and tell people not to be dickheads.
Even with security, a fight would still probably break out.
Why would fireworks displays be so much more violent and unruly than, say, air shows, festivals, sporting events, or any other large public gathering?
With fireworks banned, more people would want to go to an organised display which could cause problems.
Arrange more. Sell tickets. Have security.
Or - ban everything that people want so badly that some people will get violent over it. Let's start with toilet paper.
I vote in favour of the three shell system!
LvM
I just don't see how - some people are morons, therefore it can't be done - is a system.
Some people are morons. Does that mean we should ruin everything else?
(Sometimes yes - apparently one of the worst nights to work in a children's hospital is bonfire night. That's a reason to regulate, because the risk might not be worth the benefit. Sometimes no - people become violent over anything, apparently - regulate them and leave us be)
Hey don't shoot, I was just making a Demolition Man reference
LvM"
Went over my head, sorry |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"With London cancelling the fireworks display for New Years Eve again this year, it made me question, what would happened if fireworks were banned completely in the UK?
The upside would be that the environment would be cleaner, no hooligans would be causing trouble and no pets would be disturbed.
The downside would be that certain holidays and celebrations would be affected especially Bonfire Night which would probably cease to exist."
Interesting, Personally, it wouldn't worry me. I'm not particularly fond of fireworks. They become much louder over the last couple of years and it affects my functionality I'm not particularly fond of loud bangs. But it would make improvement concerning hooligans posting them in letterboxes and throwing them at people. I have seen so many bad burns through stupidity and OAPs have minor panic attacks causing fear of going out. Probably reminds them of WW2.
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"Banned completely like none at all, or banned like only professional displays?
I mean banned completely and that includes no displays.
I doubt they ever would.
When was the last time the government totally banned anything that makes money?
They will just increase the tax on them. "
Banning them completely would be difficult because it's a Chinese celebration. They invented the firework. Fireworks are part of their culture. They will never ban it or stop it. |
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By *apxxxWoman
over a year ago
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Fireworks have been going off in my semi rural area for a week or two. They disturb children trying to get to sleep and animals who get scared,so I'm all for organised events only. |
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A whole helluva lot of would be tyrants on this one.
Holy smokes!
I am glad we can buy them if we wish. Our entire village have them on Independence Day, New Years Eve and during the summer just for the hell of it. Every year.
I've never heard anybody complain at Town council nor have the Sheriffs ever made an appearance.
Are your dogs also afraid of lightning and thunder? You want to ban that as well?
Are you certain it is even a dog that you have? 
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"Banned completely like none at all, or banned like only professional displays?
I mean banned completely and that includes no displays.
I doubt they ever would.
When was the last time the government totally banned anything that makes money?
They will just increase the tax on them.
Banning them completely would be difficult because it's a Chinese celebration. They invented the firework. Fireworks are part of their culture. They will never ban it or stop it."
In Australia there's a limited exemption for Chinese religious purposes (I think is how it goes, I know there's an exemption). |
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A whole helluva lot of would be tyrants on this one.
Holy smokes!
I am glad we can buy them if we wish. Our entire village have them on Independence Day, New Years Eve and during the summer just for the hell of it. Every year.
I've never heard anybody complain at Town council nor have the Sheriffs ever made an appearance.
Are your dogs also afraid of lightning and thunder? You want to ban that as well?
Are you certain it is even a dog that you have?
~C
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If you could see what some fools are like with fireworks here in UK, it probably would change your mind. |
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By *yrdsisWoman
over a year ago
Gleam Street |
Smashin for you... but at 3:30am .. used to signify that the new drugs are in... pisses me off no end.. and yes, both my rottie and lhasa are real dogs... however, neither have ever been bred to be gun dogs... why should they be happy with loud noises at that time in the morning? I'm fuckin not. |
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" A whole helluva lot of would be tyrants on this one.
Holy smokes!
I am glad we can buy them if we wish. Our entire village have them on Independence Day, New Years Eve and during the summer just for the hell of it. Every year.
I've never heard anybody complain at Town council nor have the Sheriffs ever made an appearance.
Are your dogs also afraid of lightning and thunder? You want to ban that as well?
Are you certain it is even a dog that you have?
~C"
According to the RSPCA, 62% of dogs, 54% of cats and 55% of horses show distress during fireworks. They also state that fireworks are highly disturbing to birds, and can cause them to abandon their nests
The British Horse Society reports 20 deaths, 10 severe injuries, and 88 injuries to horses in fireworks incidents since 2010.
Back in November 2020, a baby zebra in Somerset was killed in a fireworks incident.
And that, of course is just the animals. You'll also find an article in The Conversation called 'Fireworks can torment veterans and survivors of gun violence with PTSD – here’s how to celebrate with respect for those who served', which touches upon the effect that sudden loud noises can have on humans.
The comparison between fireworks and thunderstorms seems especially misleading. The quality of the sounds are completely different, and – although it might be different where you live – here in the UK thunderstorms don't last from October to January like firework season does. |
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We have a great organised display here at New year.
Out in the harbour, so about as safe as you can manage, and away from where people and animals are living.
I think it's a reasonable compromise, but I'd not be against a full ban. |
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Think back to when you were a kid in the 70s or 80s. Box of standard fireworks with a Catherine wheel in it if you were lucky. No outcry then was there? Then what happened? Enormous fireworks became available (that were created for the big public displays). Stop allowing the sale of the big fuckers and limit the sale of the small ones to a week prior to the 5th Nov.
There are shops in Bolton selling them all year round and they are being let off at wedding celebrations every weekend, throughout the year till gone midnight some nights. Why are they being sold and why the fuck are the police not stopping them from letting them off? |
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" A whole helluva lot of would be tyrants on this one.
Holy smokes!
I am glad we can buy them if we wish. Our entire village have them on Independence Day, New Years Eve and during the summer just for the hell of it. Every year.
I've never heard anybody complain at Town council nor have the Sheriffs ever made an appearance.
Are your dogs also afraid of lightning and thunder? You want to ban that as well?
Are you certain it is even a dog that you have?
~C
According to the RSPCA, 62% of dogs, 54% of cats and 55% of horses show distress during fireworks. They also state that fireworks are highly disturbing to birds, and can cause them to abandon their nests
The British Horse Society reports 20 deaths, 10 severe injuries, and 88 injuries to horses in fireworks incidents since 2010.
Back in November 2020, a baby zebra in Somerset was killed in a fireworks incident.
And that, of course is just the animals. You'll also find an article in The Conversation called 'Fireworks can torment veterans and survivors of gun violence with PTSD – here’s how to celebrate with respect for those who served', which touches upon the effect that sudden loud noises can have on humans.
The comparison between fireworks and thunderstorms seems especially misleading. The quality of the sounds are completely different, and – although it might be different where you live – here in the UK thunderstorms don't last from October to January like firework season does. "
So according to those statistics you wanna ruin it for the animals that enjoy them?
Whose gonna tell 45% of horses that they can’t enjoy firework night anymore? I’m not! |
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"I’m all in favour of organised displays only for fireworks. "
This for Me Too! I genuinely think they should only be for organised displays.
We sometimes hear fireworks going off at 3:00 a.m. and that definitely isn't necessary. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think drone swarm light shows will start to become more popular. Maybe combined with silent / low sound fireworks. I don't think they should be for sale to the general public without a license. "
The drone display at the Olympic opening ceremony was epic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Let's just stop everything fun and be done and dusted. Nanny state springs to mind "
Not really.
It's individuals that are calling for this not the government or local authorities. |
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"Let's just stop everything fun and be done and dusted. Nanny state springs to mind "
I'm just discussing the hypothetical.
(Although private fireworks displays were banned where I grew up. We still had fun) |
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The "some people like a thing, therefore it must be permissible" argument blows my mind.
Some people really enjoy murder. Should we decriminalise that as well? We're really spoiling some people's fun by keeping that illegal.
Surely the acceptability of a thing should be based on the harm it does versus the benefit at brings? Four or five months of fear and misery for animals and vulnerable people, versus half an hour of enjoyment for the "Ooh pretty lights" crowd. |
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"Let's just stop everything fun and be done and dusted. Nanny state springs to mind
Not really.
It's individuals that are calling for this not the government or local authorities. "
Yes the same individual how what swingers clubs closed down in big part as see us as antisocial. |
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"The "some people like a thing, therefore it must be permissible" argument blows my mind.
Some people really enjoy murder. Should we decriminalise that as well? We're really spoiling some people's fun by keeping that illegal.
Surely the acceptability of a thing should be based on the harm it does versus the benefit at brings? Four or five months of fear and misery for animals and vulnerable people, versus half an hour of enjoyment for the "Ooh pretty lights" crowd."
Wow, murder and fireworks there just the same...
Bit silly as no one thinks murder is fun fireworks and swingers clubs.... |
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"Let's just stop everything fun and be done and dusted. Nanny state springs to mind
Not really.
It's individuals that are calling for this not the government or local authorities.
Yes the same individual how what swingers clubs closed down in big part as see us as antisocial.
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But there's a big difference between someone wanting something banned, just because they don't like it, and someone wanting something banned using facts to show the harm it does.
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I would ban completely I allways think of all the wildlife must be terrifying for them! My friend has 7 horses she has to camp out everytime their is a organized display in the pub up from her fields x |
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I know that there are people out there who use fireworks responsibly and sensibly on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve but if fireworks were to be banned, wouldn't they feel like they're being punished because of a few idiots? |
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I think they could have a sound decibel limit on the fireworks.. that day the animals would not be so distressed and also check the frequencies. Some animals hear differently to humans. That's why dog whistles can be heard by dogs and not by us. Either that or its just a big wind up |
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I do have an alternative from a ban on fireworks.
If people want to buy fireworks, they must apply for a licence and I've come up with some ideas for rules about the licence.
1. The licence holder can only set off fireworks on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve (other holidays like Diwali and Chinese New Years are exceptional)
2. The licence holder cannot buy fireworks for other people that don't have a licence.
These are what I could come up with for now but if they are broken, the fireworks would then be confiscated and their licence would be revoked with an immediate fine and a ban from reapplying for a licence.
If people are found to have fireworks without a licence, they too would be fined and their fireworks confiscated. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"I know that there are people out there who use fireworks responsibly and sensibly on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve but if fireworks were to be banned, wouldn't they feel like they're being punished because of a few idiots?"
First World problems.
Considering there are valid reasons and not just "I don't like them" behind the ban based upon consideration for those (human and none human) that are not just scared but terrified by them. Goes to show how little thought is given thought is given for others by those that would rather watch a flash and hear a bang over the well being of others.
Fireworks still exist on TV. Hell they can create the colour and lights of fireworks electronically. With zero waste, silence, and minimal disruption. There are alternatives to fireworks that help those suffering from firrworks while still giving the selfish bright light junkies their fix. |
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And although it's not nice for the animals, what about the selfish cat owners who moan every year about Bonfire Night but literally don't give a shit about their cats shitting in other people's gardens. |
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"I know that there are people out there who use fireworks responsibly and sensibly on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve but if fireworks were to be banned, wouldn't they feel like they're being punished because of a few idiots?
First World problems.
Considering there are valid reasons and not just "I don't like them" behind the ban based upon consideration for those (human and none human) that are not just scared but terrified by them. Goes to show how little thought is given thought is given for others by those that would rather watch a flash and hear a bang over the well being of others.
Fireworks still exist on TV. Hell they can create the colour and lights of fireworks electronically. With zero waste, silence, and minimal disruption. There are alternatives to fireworks that help those suffering from firrworks while still giving the selfish bright light junkies their fix. "
I don't understand how can watching fireworks on tv can work just the same. |
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"And although it's not nice for the animals, what about the selfish cat owners who moan every year about Bonfire Night but literally don't give a shit about their cats shitting in other people's gardens. "
What can they realistically do about that? X |
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"Having grown up in a country where fireworks are illegal and only organised fireworks displays are possible I’d welcome a ban here."
It's just not a big deal to me, and the risks and harms outweigh the benefits.
(Again, I'm discussing the issue, not writing to my MP or passing laws) |
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They were banned in Northern Ireland when I was growing up (too much explosive stuff).
Only time I ever got to see any was when my friend's dad got some and we'd go to a field in the middle of nowhere and set them off. Cool thing was he was in the police and would bring his radio so he'd know if anyone called the cops on us so we could get away |
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"And although it's not nice for the animals, what about the selfish cat owners who moan every year about Bonfire Night but literally don't give a shit about their cats shitting in other people's gardens. "
Had to chuckle at this one Tom! |
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"They were banned in Northern Ireland when I was growing up (too much explosive stuff).
Only time I ever got to see any was when my friend's dad got some and we'd go to a field in the middle of nowhere and set them off. Cool thing was he was in the police and would bring his radio so he'd know if anyone called the cops on us so we could get away "
See, I just went to organised displays. School, council, that sort of thing. No one got hurt, and there certainly weren't fights  |
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"And although it's not nice for the animals, what about the selfish cat owners who moan every year about Bonfire Night but literally don't give a shit about their cats shitting in other people's gardens. "
At present I would welcome a few cats shitting in my garden if they would get rid of the bloody rat that seems to come out whenever the flower beds get waterlogged. (No, I don't want to put poison down) |
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"And although it's not nice for the animals, what about the selfish cat owners who moan every year about Bonfire Night but literally don't give a shit about their cats shitting in other people's gardens.
At present I would welcome a few cats shitting in my garden if they would get rid of the bloody rat that seems to come out whenever the flower beds get waterlogged. (No, I don't want to put poison down)
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There's pretty much no other way of effectively dealing with the bastards (poison that is).
Unless you want to be dealing with live rats in humane traps?
They are just the most effective and efficient vermin! I admire them a bit, but don't want them in my garden (especially the performative one that was dancing along the top of wall the other morning). |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"I know that there are people out there who use fireworks responsibly and sensibly on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve but if fireworks were to be banned, wouldn't they feel like they're being punished because of a few idiots?
First World problems.
Considering there are valid reasons and not just "I don't like them" behind the ban based upon consideration for those (human and none human) that are not just scared but terrified by them. Goes to show how little thought is given thought is given for others by those that would rather watch a flash and hear a bang over the well being of others.
Fireworks still exist on TV. Hell they can create the colour and lights of fireworks electronically. With zero waste, silence, and minimal disruption. There are alternatives to fireworks that help those suffering from firrworks while still giving the selfish bright light junkies their fix.
I don't understand how can watching fireworks on tv can work just the same. "
Why not? What is it that makes it different? You are seeing the same thing happen. Explosion happens, bright lights, it ends.
If it's nothing to do with the visual or the bang then it's not the fireworks that they are interested in.
Bottom line is, it's a selfish want over a minor thing. Not having them is not an inconvenience to people as opposed to the pupple (and animals) that actually struggle with having fireworks happen. It's more than an inconvenience for some of them, it is a night of terror and fear. |
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"I know that there are people out there who use fireworks responsibly and sensibly on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve but if fireworks were to be banned, wouldn't they feel like they're being punished because of a few idiots?
First World problems.
Considering there are valid reasons and not just "I don't like them" behind the ban based upon consideration for those (human and none human) that are not just scared but terrified by them. Goes to show how little thought is given thought is given for others by those that would rather watch a flash and hear a bang over the well being of others.
Fireworks still exist on TV. Hell they can create the colour and lights of fireworks electronically. With zero waste, silence, and minimal disruption. There are alternatives to fireworks that help those suffering from firrworks while still giving the selfish bright light junkies their fix.
I don't understand how can watching fireworks on tv can work just the same.
Why not? What is it that makes it different? You are seeing the same thing happen. Explosion happens, bright lights, it ends.
If it's nothing to do with the visual or the bang then it's not the fireworks that they are interested in.
Bottom line is, it's a selfish want over a minor thing. Not having them is not an inconvenience to people as opposed to the pupple (and animals) that actually struggle with having fireworks happen. It's more than an inconvenience for some of them, it is a night of terror and fear. "
The difference is fireworks can be seen on tv and film at any time of the year. If people just watched fireworks on tv during Bonfire Night, it wouldn't be the same. Plus they wouldn't feel like they're partaking in the event. |
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"They were banned in Northern Ireland when I was growing up (too much explosive stuff).
Only time I ever got to see any was when my friend's dad got some and we'd go to a field in the middle of nowhere and set them off. Cool thing was he was in the police and would bring his radio so he'd know if anyone called the cops on us so we could get away "
There not banned anymore lol |
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"They were banned in Northern Ireland when I was growing up (too much explosive stuff).
Only time I ever got to see any was when my friend's dad got some and we'd go to a field in the middle of nowhere and set them off. Cool thing was he was in the police and would bring his radio so he'd know if anyone called the cops on us so we could get away
There not banned anymore lol "
I know. I find fireworks boring anyway. Only ever seen one show that I thought was remotely interesting, but that was when I was 16. |
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"I know that there are people out there who use fireworks responsibly and sensibly on Bonfire Night and New Years Eve but if fireworks were to be banned, wouldn't they feel like they're being punished because of a few idiots?
First World problems.
Considering there are valid reasons and not just "I don't like them" behind the ban based upon consideration for those (human and none human) that are not just scared but terrified by them. Goes to show how little thought is given thought is given for others by those that would rather watch a flash and hear a bang over the well being of others.
Fireworks still exist on TV. Hell they can create the colour and lights of fireworks electronically. With zero waste, silence, and minimal disruption. There are alternatives to fireworks that help those suffering from firrworks while still giving the selfish bright light junkies their fix.
I don't understand how can watching fireworks on tv can work just the same.
Why not? What is it that makes it different? You are seeing the same thing happen. Explosion happens, bright lights, it ends.
If it's nothing to do with the visual or the bang then it's not the fireworks that they are interested in.
Bottom line is, it's a selfish want over a minor thing. Not having them is not an inconvenience to people as opposed to the pupple (and animals) that actually struggle with having fireworks happen. It's more than an inconvenience for some of them, it is a night of terror and fear. "
Well Halloween has become a night of terror and fear. Why not move the fireworks to that evening. It makes sense to have the terror and fear all on one night. I have watched clips on TV and Sydney Bridge for New Year's Eve and the Olympics. Absolute rubbish. And if a few loud bangs scare the salties out of Sydney harbour and the poisonous snakes and spiders back into the bush then I for one will not be mourning their loss |
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By *omino51Man
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Amazes me how folk in this country what to ban everything that's fun. One day they will ban something you enjoy doing. Silvester Stalone made a film where he came back 80 years later to a woke age. How fugging boring that would be. But seems that's what the masses want these days. It's times like these that I thank the lord I was born in the early 60's and will be dead before everything get banned and boring. Good luck young unsure rather you than me. |
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"Amazes me how folk in this country what to ban everything that's fun. One day they will ban something you enjoy doing. Silvester Stalone made a film where he came back 80 years later to a woke age. How fugging boring that would be. But seems that's what the masses want these days. It's times like these that I thank the lord I was born in the early 60's and will be dead before everything get banned and boring. Good luck young unsure rather you than me. "
Goodness, how boring, wanting to stop children losing fingers and ending up in the burns unit. Stupid children ruining all our fun. They should accept their lot in life, letting us enjoy subpar fireworks. |
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"Amazes me how folk in this country what to ban everything that's fun. One day they will ban something you enjoy doing. Silvester Stalone made a film where he came back 80 years later to a woke age. How fugging boring that would be. But seems that's what the masses want these days. It's times like these that I thank the lord I was born in the early 60's and will be dead before everything get banned and boring. Good luck young unsure rather you than me. "
If that's Demolition Man you're talking about, he was cryogenically frozen for 10 years. 1996 -2006.
Physical sex was abolished in that film. Can't imagine the masses here going along with that! |
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"Amazes me how folk in this country what to ban everything that's fun. One day they will ban something you enjoy doing. Silvester Stalone made a film where he came back 80 years later to a woke age. How fugging boring that would be. But seems that's what the masses want these days. It's times like these that I thank the lord I was born in the early 60's and will be dead before everything get banned and boring. Good luck young unsure rather you than me.
If that's Demolition Man you're talking about, he was cryogenically frozen for 10 years. 1996 -2006.
Physical sex was abolished in that film. Can't imagine the masses here going along with that!"
Actually, he was frozen for 36 years and the future was set in 2032. |
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"With London cancelling the fireworks display for New Years Eve again this year, it made me question, what would happened if fireworks were banned completely in the UK?
The upside would be that the environment would be cleaner, no hooligans would be causing trouble and no pets would be disturbed.
The downside would be that certain holidays and celebrations would be affected especially Bonfire Night which would probably cease to exist."
And incomes would be lost. |
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"With London cancelling the fireworks display for New Years Eve again this year, it made me question, what would happened if fireworks were banned completely in the UK?
The upside would be that the environment would be cleaner, no hooligans would be causing trouble and no pets would be disturbed.
The downside would be that certain holidays and celebrations would be affected especially Bonfire Night which would probably cease to exist.
And incomes would be lost. "
I don't know when the ban happened, but candles were banned from Candles by Candlelight, which is an important Australian Christmas tradition which has roots before Australia became a country.
Candles are a fire risk, and Christmas occurs in the bushfire season.
Carols by candlelight continues - with battery operated candles. Because the risk to life, property, and environment is too high to allow all those naked flames. |
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The firework display is gonna need one hell of a lot of batteries 
Maybe we should just televise it all or show old films.
We do it with everything else "
Lol. Apparently lasers do a great job.
But - problem emerges, adapt. Even for cherished traditions.
I personally don't think mangled toddlers is a price worth paying for the ability to set off your own fireworks. |
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The firework display is gonna need one hell of a lot of batteries
Maybe we should just televise it all or show old films.
We do it with everything else
Lol. Apparently lasers do a great job.
But - problem emerges, adapt. Even for cherished traditions.
I personally don't think mangled toddlers is a price worth paying for the ability to set off your own fireworks."
That is the problem with selling fireworks to irresponsible responsible adults. |
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The firework display is gonna need one hell of a lot of batteries
Maybe we should just televise it all or show old films.
We do it with everything else
Lol. Apparently lasers do a great job.
But - problem emerges, adapt. Even for cherished traditions.
I personally don't think mangled toddlers is a price worth paying for the ability to set off your own fireworks.
That is the problem with selling fireworks to irresponsible responsible adults. "
For sure.
And maybe in years past we were less aware of the tragedy of maimed children. Or society cared less. Ditto about PTSD or scared animals.
But those days are gone and we're aware, now. |
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The firework display is gonna need one hell of a lot of batteries
Maybe we should just televise it all or show old films.
We do it with everything else "
The NYE London fireworks are being replaced with a laser and drone display instead |
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Speaking of displays, the Council here in Bolton have cancelled the fireworks display all because "they haven't got enough recourses or budget" to hold one this year. Basically, they've no money left.
When I heard this, I thought it's no wonder seeing they already blew their budget on the food and drink festival during the Summer and all them bicycle lanes they're building. |
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"Some idiot has just set one off round ours. The dog shit itself and now it’s hiding under the Christmas Tree
In October?"
Perfectly plausible. I don't know where you live, but round here the fireworks start up in October and don't stop until well into January. We call it "firework season". |
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I've noticed that Northern Ireland have in laws in place mentioning that you need a licence to buy fireworks.
I think now is the time to do what they're doing and have a firework licencing law here in the UK but with the rules I mentioned before. |
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"I've noticed that Northern Ireland have in laws in place mentioning that you need a licence to buy fireworks.
I think now is the time to do what they're doing and have a firework licencing law here in the UK but with the rules I mentioned before."
Don't think so? As I know places selling select fireworks as long your over 18 and it's for private as garden as we going to my brother and he has one's for the kids before drink time lol. |
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"Let's just stop everything fun and be done and dusted. Nanny state springs to mind
Not really.
It's individuals that are calling for this not the government or local authorities.
Yes, the same individual how swingers clubs closed down in big part as see us as antisocial.
But there's a big difference between someone wanting something banned, just because they don't like it, and someone wanting something banned using facts to show the harm it does.
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Fireworks in the do very little harm to the majority and bring joy to millions swingers are far more likely to contract diseases that need medical attention for a far small number of people actively meeting so not convinced your rebuttal is just.  |
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I'd like to ban public use and just have commercial displays