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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating." I agree. She really shouldn't have been driving though | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating." Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone  | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone "My mum with dementia nearly blew our house up. Did I blame her? No. I blamed the authorities who were dragging their heels in getting her proper help. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.." Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. " She was disqualified at the time I believe  | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating." Agreed. More going on than we’re being told, I suspect. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe "I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it. No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' ....... No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison. Yada Yada... Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about. " | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Agreed. More going on than we’re being told, I suspect." She's never been 100% stable in relationships etc... Recently took a punch in a domestic .. from the 'umpteenth' partner.... So I guess she's not in a good place right now. Trouble is she does have determination to have her own way... I've always liked her. I can see her faults but I like her and wish her well. | |||
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"It's also true that if this was a single mum from a council estate with several children from different relationships, driving under the influence while disqualified her mental health would not be considered" Agreed. Her family spoke up for her though. Which doesn't always happen. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about. "It's ALWAYS about a woman's sexual behaviour or how she's connected to a man. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about. "Off his/her tits it’s a common expression for any gender when they’re on drugs where I’m from Stop seeing gender issues where there isn’t one | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about.
Off his/her tits it’s a common expression for any gender when they’re on drugs where I’m from
Stop seeing gender issues where there isn’t one "There is a gender issue. | |||
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"That was a bit shouty of you
Yes it is."That's why I was shouty. I've finally after nearly 65 years got fed up enough to shout  | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about.
Off his/her tits it’s a common expression for any gender when they’re on drugs where I’m from
Stop seeing gender issues where there isn’t one
There is a gender issue.
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"I feel sorry for her children. They must be incredibly upset and worried, and all of it playing out so publicly "Yes, this ^^ | |||
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"I feel sorry for her, and have done for years. I’m not surprised she’s ended up with drug addiction and a mental breakdown. Without a doubt what she did was wrong - but she clearly needs help. In a weird way I hope she gets sent to jail so that she can get space to become clean, sober and get some support. " If that is what happens to drink drivers after driving when disqualified then i'd agree. I'd prefer that she is banned for years and has to agree to some social therapy. I think she's an amazing candidate for giving help to others. She's becoming mature enough to do so and should when she's back to being Katie. | |||
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"Kind of feel a bit sorry for her, can’t imagine the type of life she’s had since a child in the spotlight and remember watching her on I’m a celebratory when she met Peter Andre, and she seemed a lovely sweet girl, a bit lost even then…. BUT anyone who gets in a car when out of it and particularly when already banned, needs punishing , no exceptions, too many innocent people die and are hurt."
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about. "To be fair it’s not because she’s a woman he’s making those comments is it. It’s because she is a person who is famous for sex. She made her career off of it, topless photos, kiss and tells, webcam shows and she famously had a sex tape too. I’m not passing judgement on any of those things, but it’s clear why she is associated with “sexualised” jokes | |||
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"Banning her from driving didn't appear to stop her from driving though "Someone needs to ban her from drinking .... We don't make the best decisions under the influence. | |||
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"Banning her from driving didn't appear to stop her from driving though
Someone needs to ban her from drinking ....
We don't make the best decisions under the influence."She did more than drinking. She has a serious drug addiction | |||
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"Kind of feel a bit sorry for her, can’t imagine the type of life she’s had since a child in the spotlight and remember watching her on I’m a celebratory when she met Peter Andre, and she seemed a lovely sweet girl, a bit lost even then…. BUT anyone who gets in a car when out of it and particularly when already banned, needs punishing , no exceptions, too many innocent people die and are hurt.
And if by 'punishment' you mean a ban and some help then "Bans don’t seem to have worked Granny. I think, personally, that she should be treated the same as everyone else. She chooses to live in the public eye and has benefitted greatly from it. She has also suffered greatly for it and for that I am sorry. But if she had injured somebody or worse. This would be a very different conversation | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone "Kill someone or kill herself. I believe she took her car in the early morning hours while she was d*unk or something? And overturned her car? Even though she was still disquallified. Maybe she should be sectioned for her own good like it happened to Paul Gasgoine? She is not a nad person but she does not seem to think straight at times? | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
No one EVER says .... yeah he was 'off his cock on drink' .......
No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
Just like on another thread this morning when a woman asked for advice it was turned into her sexual behaviours - which was NOT what she asked about.
To be fair it’s not because she’s a woman he’s making those comments is it. It’s because she is a person who is famous for sex. She made her career off of it, topless photos, kiss and tells, webcam shows and she famously had a sex tape too.
I’m not passing judgement on any of those things, but it’s clear why she is associated with “sexualised” jokes
"Great. I am glad you said that. That straightens it all out. Supports what I said anyway ...... and also ...... by that logic the women on here can be spoken of and to in anyway that men may want to ...... 'that kind of woman' is fair game and asking for it because they are on a sex site with their bits out. Is that a fair thing for me to take from your point ? If not then it's not right and she is just another d*unk that needs 'help' ..... Not sexual derision. | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone
Kill someone or kill herself. I believe she took her car in the early morning hours while she was d*unk or something? And overturned her car?
Even though she was still disquallified.
Maybe she should be sectioned for her own good like it happened to Paul Gasgoine?
She is not a nad person but she does not seem to think straight at times?"I don't know her to know if she's a good or bad person but she will be judged by her actions whatever the reason behind them | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone
Kill someone or kill herself. I believe she took her car in the early morning hours while she was d*unk or something? And overturned her car?
Even though she was still disquallified.
Maybe she should be sectioned for her own good like it happened to Paul Gasgoine?
She is not a nad person but she does not seem to think straight at times?"Tell me 'nad' was a typo
I agree. Maybe she should be sectioned.... depends on doctors I guess. | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. " Just nip back and show me the bit where anyone said it's OKAY what she did. No one said it's okay. No one. | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone
Kill someone or kill herself. I believe she took her car in the early morning hours while she was d*unk or something? And overturned her car?
Even though she was still disquallified.
Maybe she should be sectioned for her own good like it happened to Paul Gasgoine?
She is not a nad person but she does not seem to think straight at times?"Sympathy starts to go when you have these celebrities who have all this money and friends to put them into rehab and they come out no better.. we dont have hardly 5% of what is available to them.. | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone
Kill someone or kill herself. I believe she took her car in the early morning hours while she was d*unk or something? And overturned her car?
Even though she was still disquallified.
Maybe she should be sectioned for her own good like it happened to Paul Gasgoine?
She is not a nad person but she does not seem to think straight at times?
Tell me 'nad' was a typo
I agree. Maybe she should be sectioned.... depends on doctors I guess. "It was a typo
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Agreed. More going on than we’re being told, I suspect." Has she broke the law?.. yes.. .should she be banged up?.. yes Has she given one thought to her kids, especially Harvey who needs her more than anything.. No.. selfish and deserves everything coming to her. | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. " Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.” | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.”" In a case like this it’s probably because it means she won’t be out to be a danger to others, although I do agree that a lot just like the see the mighty fall. | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.” In a case like this it’s probably because it means she won’t be out to be a danger to others, although I do agree that a lot just like the see the mighty fall. " Mighty!!! She has never been mighty.. what talent has she displayed to get famous.. its the idiotic public who put her on a pedestal.. | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Agreed. More going on than we’re being told, I suspect. Has she broke the law?.. yes.. .should she be banged up?.. yes Has she given one thought to her kids, especially Harvey who needs her more than anything.. No.. selfish and deserves everything coming to her." Now there's a point. A loving mother who has raised a handicapped child for 18 years. The child she was left with after a dalliance with a footballer who just didn't want to know. She's even greater in my eyes. Thanks for that. She loves Harvey, has been there throughout. He loves her and she still sees that he's got what he needs despite him being legally and adult. Go Katie! What was his dad's name again ??? | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.” In a case like this it’s probably because it means she won’t be out to be a danger to others, although I do agree that a lot just like the see the mighty fall. Mighty!!! She has never been mighty.. what talent has she displayed to get famous.. its the idiotic public who put her on a pedestal.. " Not saying she’s mighty, I’m talking about his point if the general public loving seeing a celeb fall | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Agreed. More going on than we’re being told, I suspect. Has she broke the law?.. yes.. .should she be banged up?.. yes Has she given one thought to her kids, especially Harvey who needs her more than anything.. No.. selfish and deserves everything coming to her." Probably best to bang her up to protect the kids. Imagine if they had been in the car. She’s a danger to herself and all around her | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.” In a case like this it’s probably because it means she won’t be out to be a danger to others, although I do agree that a lot just like the see the mighty fall. Mighty!!! She has never been mighty.. what talent has she displayed to get famous.. its the idiotic public who put her on a pedestal.. Not saying she’s mighty, I’m talking about his point if the general public loving seeing a celeb fall " She likely more successful in her careers than most people here , maybe that’s it, jealousy | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.” In a case like this it’s probably because it means she won’t be out to be a danger to others, although I do agree that a lot just like the see the mighty fall. Mighty!!! She has never been mighty.. what talent has she displayed to get famous.. its the idiotic public who put her on a pedestal.. " Well there's the furnishings company she developed, the horse riding medals... perfume promotions..... books ...... the modelling was years ago and it was the 'men' who bought into that .......most women don't buy papers for the titty page. She was page 3 and not internet.... Oh yeah and there were the t.v. progs ... great at seizing that opportunity ..... and i'm sure there's more. I can see past her past and past tits. She won B.B. due to her calm strength and great demeanour. Hope she gets back there soon. | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.”" To be homest, being a celeb and having a good lawyer helps. A normal person breaking the law would have been jailed already. Personally I do not dislike her, I feel sad for her at times cause she is like a car with no breaks. My beloved George Michael eventually spent some time in jail for driving under the influence and I can not say he did not deserve it after a number of close calls. | |||
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"Cobblers. Mental illness or not. To get in a car while high as a kite and d*unk. That is common sense..as i said. You or i we would be locked up and key thrown away.. Disqualified from driving.. but its ok she has mental illness.. High as a kite, but its ok ahe has mental illness... I have mental issues but you dont see me jumping in my car when i have had a drink chasing down the next score.. Hope she goes to jail. Why would you hope she goes to jail ? What I don’t undetstad is how other peoples suffering makes people feel good? We see it all the time on tabloid front pages, everyone loves it when famous or successful peoples lives fall apart in public , when they hit rock bottom those headlines sell most copies , why ? Jealousy? The Japanese even have a saying “ The misfortune of others tastes like honey.” In a case like this it’s probably because it means she won’t be out to be a danger to others, although I do agree that a lot just like the see the mighty fall. Mighty!!! She has never been mighty.. what talent has she displayed to get famous.. its the idiotic public who put her on a pedestal.. Not saying she’s mighty, I’m talking about his point if the general public loving seeing a celeb fall She likely more successful in her careers than most people here , maybe that’s it, jealousy " She is. She's unlucky in love but she's not the worthless heap that some people would make her out to be. | |||
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"Yes granny ...go on stick up for her and put em' straight !! I honestly thought she'd end up like this back when she was in car magazines nearly 25 years ago bouncing from one guy to the next and constantly changing getting surgery for Posseh & Views then when she had Harvey I thought she needs to be a saint dealing with him nevermind herself so it's understandable that she makes mistakes and doesn't care about it imo .. " Haters have to hate I guess. Generally those unable to form opinions of their own , with low self esteem and in need of someone to look down on. | |||
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"Well considering what she has been charged with one doesn’t qualify for jail time and the other is a maximum of six months, it is likely to be a heavy fine, community service and an extension of her ban. She obviously needs help and hopefully she will get that, with her family’s support. " | |||
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"Mental illness is a problem but cannot hide behind it when you risk other people's lives. Terrorists and rapists may have mental health issues but that does not excuse their actions. These days too many people use the 'mental health' problem as a sympathy mechanism or 'get of jail free card' in doing so they take away from those who are genuinely unwell in this way. Be careful who you empathise and sympathise with" Exactly this
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"Mental illness is a problem but cannot hide behind it when you risk other people's lives. Terrorists and rapists may have mental health issues but that does not excuse their actions. These days too many people use the 'mental health' problem as a sympathy mechanism or 'get of jail free card' in doing so they take away from those who are genuinely unwell in this way. Be careful who you empathise and sympathise with" I feel that is true of so many aspects of this psychobabble no responsibility age. It doesn't alter the fact that no one on the thread has excused her behaviour in anyway. Some though have tried to make it personal about her and her occupation rather than what she has done in terms of the law. | |||
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"She's been disqualified 6 times in 10 years. I'm not sure people would be so quick to defend her under the mental illness defence if she had killed a child with this latest bout of selfish and reckless behaviour. " | |||
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"Kind of feel a bit sorry for her, can’t imagine the type of life she’s had since a child in the spotlight and remember watching her on I’m a celebratory when she met Peter Andre, and she seemed a lovely sweet girl, a bit lost even then…. BUT anyone who gets in a car when out of it and particularly when already banned, needs punishing , no exceptions, too many innocent people die and are hurt.
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Agreed. More going on than we’re being told, I suspect. Has she broke the law?.. yes.. .should she be banged up?.. yes Has she given one thought to her kids, especially Harvey who needs her more than anything.. No.. selfish and deserves everything coming to her. Probably best to bang her up to protect the kids. Imagine if they had been in the car. She’s a danger to herself and all around her " It is best, when looking at events that we don't hold people responsible for what 'they imagine.' ..... No one was hurt. So let's just stick to d*unk, disqualified , driver. | |||
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"MH or not...she was disqualified as well as dr**k. Imagine if she had crashed into or hit someone and killed them I do hope the punishment reflects the situation." Agreed. Actions have consequences. It wasn't long ago people would have quite rightly vilified d*unken drivers for the risks they were taking, now it seems if you say you have MH issues we are told we need to be nice instead If she does have MH issues then maybe the help could have come when she was last disqualified | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. " I don’t believe she has been charged with d*unk driving, just driving whilst banned and driving without insurance | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. " Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. I don’t believe she has been charged with d*unk driving, just driving whilst banned and driving without insurance " Thanks Shortie. I mean Spurs 
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"MH or not...she was disqualified as well as dr**k. Imagine if she had crashed into or hit someone and killed them I do hope the punishment reflects the situation. Agreed. Actions have consequences. It wasn't long ago people would have quite rightly vilified d*unken drivers for the risks they were taking, now it seems if you say you have MH issues we are told we need to be nice instead If she does have MH issues then maybe the help could have come when she was last disqualified" It seems she has been charged with no insurance while disqualified. No mention of drink in todays reports. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58733613 | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe "I suggest you do try to isolate her crimes from her parenting. She has not committed any crime against her children and she doesn't neglect them. | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe
I suggest you do try to isolate her crimes from her parenting. She has not committed any crime against her children and she doesn't neglect them.
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"MH or not...she was disqualified as well as dr**k. Imagine if she had crashed into or hit someone and killed them I do hope the punishment reflects the situation. Agreed. Actions have consequences. It wasn't long ago people would have quite rightly vilified d*unken drivers for the risks they were taking, now it seems if you say you have MH issues we are told we need to be nice instead If she does have MH issues then maybe the help could have come when she was last disqualified It seems she has been charged with no insurance while disqualified. No mention of drink in todays reports. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58733613 " Thanks. So it does. No insurance and disqualified. | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe
I suggest you do try to isolate her crimes from her parenting. She has not committed any crime against her children and she doesn't neglect them.
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe
I suggest you do try to isolate her crimes from her parenting. She has not committed any crime against her children and she doesn't neglect them.
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"See her driving crime sheet, if she were male she would have done serious time by now . Strange how when it comes on top mental health issues suddenly surface " So funny. What are the stats for males and females getting charged or getting off..... | |||
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"See her driving crime sheet, if she were male she would have done serious time by now . Strange how when it comes on top mental health issues suddenly surface So funny. What are the stats for males and females getting charged or getting off..... " Women statistically get lesser sentences than men | |||
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"Kind of feel a bit sorry for her, can’t imagine the type of life she’s had since a child in the spotlight and remember watching her on I’m a celebratory when she met Peter Andre, and she seemed a lovely sweet girl, a bit lost even then…. BUT anyone who gets in a car when out of it and particularly when already banned, needs punishing , no exceptions, too many innocent people die and are hurt." Exactly this. Every time something horrendous happens lately. Mental health is brought up. What if she’d killed one of your people’s children? Would you still be so understanding? | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe
I suggest you do try to isolate her crimes from her parenting. She has not committed any crime against her children and she doesn't neglect them.
Neglected to think of them the minute she gets behind the wheel d*unk or high.. only thought of herself and next hit.
No drink no drugs. At least has not been charged as such.
Try to leave her children out of it.
"Not fair to bring her children into it! We live in a world of gloating and just have to look at social media to see some awful comments. However she has made a mistake celebrity or not! You only have to look at what happened to Caroline Flack! Some people love to put others down especially the media and online trolls. | |||
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"No tits. No kids. No what ifs...... D*unk. Disqualified Driver. Sadly you can’t isolate incidents from the real world, and she’s shown herself to be a potential danger to all those around her. This isn’t her only offence, she’s clearly got a drug issue, and it’s clear she’s got no intention of sorting it out Sectioned or prison, either way, the kids will be safe
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Neglected to think of them the minute she gets behind the wheel d*unk or high.. only thought of herself and next hit.
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"From Daily Mail Price, from Horsham, West Sussex, who is banned from driving, is accused of flipping her BMW on a country road at 6.20am near West Grinstead yesterday. I wonder what made her flip her car at 6.20am on a country road…" Speeding I would imagine and who knows, maybe trying to swerve a badger. None of us were there, none of us know so it's all suspicion. As was being over the limit or high, which I'd imagine she would have been charged for if she was. | |||
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"Sounds like drink and drugs binge....possibly driving to get more supplies and flipped car....." She recently had a “break in and robbery” that sounded suspicious as fuck too. Me and my friend both think it was a drug deal gone bad as her story didn’t line up at all. Somethings not right | |||
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"Sounds like drink and drugs binge....possibly driving to get more supplies and flipped car....." Or she could have been having a wild party in the back with the Sheik of Arabi and he lost control of his radiators which startled the camel riding in the footwell who kicked the miner's lamp off the cocktail table and sent it hurtling over to the crane which caused it to topple and sent them hurtling into a spin as she tried to avoid the boiling oil cauldron. | |||
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"I don’t recall the same judgement and abuse when Ant Mcpartlin got behind the wheel and risked innocent people’s life’s." If you are talking about on here, abuse no, but judgement of drink drivers yes. There were also lots of people who didn't condemn the drink driver though | |||
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"Not appropriate to judge everybody the same. Everyone is going through difficulties that we not always see or appreciate. You seem to be making a divide between them and us. We are all from Mankind. " We all judge, even if people don't admit to it. | |||
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.. Hopefully she will get the help she needs. Why did you bring sex acts in to the situation to degrade her further. I don't think she'd dream of going down on you. Why was she 'off her tits' and not over the limit ? I also hope she is disqualified for a while and gets the help she needs to recover. She was disqualified at the time I believe
I know and I will think it fair if she is banned. What I can't let pass without comment is that every time a woman does something a man sexualises it.
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No one EVER says ..... He'll be going down and I don't mean prison.
Yada Yada...
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"Hopefully she goes down and not in the way she dreams.. driving while disqualified, off her tits and d*unk.. You or I we would get years and key thrown away.. lets hope the same happens to her.." And I'm sure of that did happen to you you would be the first to complain of heavy handed sentance and provide any number of reasons why the law and consequences shouldn't apply to you. Just because this is about Katie price (she hasn't gone by Jordan for quite some time now, keep up with the times!) then throw the book at her m'lord..... Yeah, OK then. | |||
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"Why do celebrities always use the mental health issue when they've done wrong and they know they have. I used to like her but it's always the same with her lately. She goes off the wall and does stupid things then blames other things stuff in her life. She puts herself in the situations she finds herself in. There's nobody to blame but her. I hope they throw the book at her!" It's not just celebrities that do that. The prison system is full of appellants and people on remand frustrating the system by claiming that they were not of sound mind when they committed their crime. People look for loopholes to get them off all the time. Just read any parking ticket or speeding ticket thread. | |||
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"I suspect she has had mental health issues for years. However she was driving whilst disqualified so if she was over the drink drive limit she can expect a holiday at tax payer expense " Doubtful she will get a custodial sentance really. She will use Harvey as a reason for sure seeing as he is disabled and needs full time care. Fine and community service I'm certain. | |||
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"I suspect she has had mental health issues for years. However she was driving whilst disqualified so if she was over the drink drive limit she can expect a holiday at tax payer expense Doubtful she will get a custodial sentance really. She will use Harvey as a reason for sure seeing as he is disabled and needs full time care. Fine and community service I'm certain. " But Harvey is not with her any longer. He is living to a facility as he was getting too difficult to handle. Unless something changed. | |||
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"I suspect she has had mental health issues for years. However she was driving whilst disqualified so if she was over the drink drive limit she can expect a holiday at tax payer expense Doubtful she will get a custodial sentance really. She will use Harvey as a reason for sure seeing as he is disabled and needs full time care. Fine and community service I'm certain. " I suspect you are right in that she will use Harvey as mitigation why she should not be jailed. I do think she has done an amazing job as a mother | |||
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"I suspect you are right in that she will use Harvey as mitigation why she should not be jailed. I do think she has done an amazing job as a mother" I'm intrigued to know why you think she has done "an amazing job as a mother"? More so than any other single mother without her financial resources? Frank | |||
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"Mental illness is a problem but cannot hide behind it when you risk other people's lives. Terrorists and rapists may have mental health issues but that does not excuse their actions. These days too many people use the 'mental health' problem as a sympathy mechanism or 'get of jail free card' in doing so they take away from those who are genuinely unwell in this way. Be careful who you empathise and sympathise with Exactly this
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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"She needs proper help & support" No, she needs locking up. | |||
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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Rubbish "Ant never got the same amount of hate? He got a television award instead. Isn't her mother seriously ill if i remember rightly? Do have some compassion for others celebrities are just human too. | |||
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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Rubbish Ant never got the same amount of hate? He got a television award instead. Isn't her mother seriously ill if i remember rightly? Do have some compassion for others celebrities are just human too. "I didn't have compassion for Ant, never will either. We all have shit going on in our lives, but taking to the wheel while pissed won't improve nothing | |||
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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Rubbish Ant never got the same amount of hate? He got a television award instead. Isn't her mother seriously ill if i remember rightly? Do have some compassion for others celebrities are just human too.
I didn't have compassion for Ant, never will either. We all have shit going on in our lives, but taking to the wheel while pissed won't improve nothing "Yes some more than others! Well she has made a mistake, But still some people seem to love putting others down. We only know what the media has printed not the full facts! | |||
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. " Put in a better more detail way than my post....thank you | |||
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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Rubbish Ant never got the same amount of hate? He got a television award instead. Isn't her mother seriously ill if i remember rightly? Do have some compassion for others celebrities are just human too.
I didn't have compassion for Ant, never will either. We all have shit going on in our lives, but taking to the wheel while pissed won't improve nothing Yes some more than others! Well she has made a mistake, But still some people seem to love putting others down. We only know what the media has printed not the full facts! "She pleaded GUILTY. So the facts are she was pissed, driving, while already disqualified. Case closed!!! | |||
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No excuse really and the people making excuses are a bad as her.
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I didn't have compassion for Ant, never will either. We all have shit going on in our lives, but taking to the wheel while pissed won't improve nothing Yes some more than others! Well she has made a mistake, But still some people seem to love putting others down. We only know what the media has printed not the full facts!
She pleaded GUILTY. So the facts are she was pissed, driving, while already disqualified.
Case closed!!!"Case closed? Also not sure how people are as bad when you don't even know them. Lol | |||
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"Every minute of the day there is someone making bad choices driven by their addictions. Rich, famous, poor, lonely, mother, father, son or daughter, addiction does not discriminate. " Ain't that the truth. | |||
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"I suspect you are right in that she will use Harvey as mitigation why she should not be jailed. I do think she has done an amazing job as a mother I'm intrigued to know why you think she has done "an amazing job as a mother"? More so than any other single mother without her financial resources? Frank" Where did they say more so than anyone else?! | |||
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. " So many baseless assumptions on her ease of access to certain things and her financial situation. | |||
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. So many baseless assumptions on her ease of access to certain things and her financial situation. " Well she ain't on Universal Credit yet! | |||
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. So many baseless assumptions on her ease of access to certain things and her financial situation. Well she ain't on Universal Credit yet!" Neither am I but I'm not flush either. Your point? | |||
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. So many baseless assumptions on her ease of access to certain things and her financial situation. Well she ain't on Universal Credit yet! Neither am I but I'm not flush either. Your point? " The whole thread and most of the posts are assumptions, depending upon which media you read or listen too. That is all we have to go on.... but that post wasn't any different to the rest.... Just more of a rounded opinion! Hope I got to the point for you!  | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone
Kill someone or kill herself. I believe she took her car in the early morning hours while she was d*unk or something? And overturned her car?
Even though she was still disquallified.
Maybe she should be sectioned for her own good like it happened to Paul Gasgoine?
She is not a nad person but she does not seem to think straight at times?
Sympathy starts to go when you have these celebrities who have all this money and friends to put them into rehab and they come out no better.. we dont have hardly 5% of what is available to them.. " | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. Using mental illness to make excuses for something that could kill someone "I have no interest in the woman nor am I prepared to make exuses for her. I also dont know her spesific mental illness condition but yes, mental illness does cause people to do stupid things that can harm themsleves or others. It's not an excuse if it's a fact... | |||
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"With the right approach and support, there will be positives that come from this for everyone. I'm not into vilification of people, especially when they are in crisis. " | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating." Funny how she rolls out the mental health card when it suits but seeing her on tv no sign of the card. So but she just an attention seaker. | |||
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"From Daily Mail Price, from Horsham, West Sussex, who is banned from driving, is accused of flipping her BMW on a country road at 6.20am near West Grinstead yesterday. I wonder what made her flip her car at 6.20am on a country road…" Fuck loads of people on the internet piling on the pressure? | |||
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"Disgusting that some see her as a role model! Hope they chuck her in the clink! No doubt will play the mental health card and get off like that other waste of space Ant or Dec, whichever it was. We all have our troubles, some much greater than theirs, thankfully we don't all need to leave the house to drive illegally to buy cocaine! Hope she gets a real sentence so she can't put others lives in danger!" It was Ant. Out of interest why do you consider him a waste of space ? Is it because he´s a lot richer and more successful than you ? | |||
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"Such a pretty lass when she first started, but not the brightest and made some bad choices People will try and shoot her down , she will always have her knockers…."
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. So many baseless assumptions on her ease of access to certain things and her financial situation. " Baseless? Yes you mean the flash cars, the lucrative TV/media appearances, the booze, the drugs and the jewellery? She has let more money go througgh her fingers than the vast majority of people in this country. I don't call that baseless. She's facing bankruptcy now but this has been going on for years and most of her problems are down to her flawed decision making. You're not seriously claiming that with all her contacts she can't get or doesn't know where to seek help? She's checking in for rehab. Who's paying for that? Average people don't have that option do they. That's why my sympathy for her situation is limited. | |||
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"She's been disqualified 6 times in 10 years. I'm not sure people would be so quick to defend her under the mental illness defence if she had killed a child with this latest bout of selfish and reckless behaviour. " also a charge of driving while unfit through drugs was withdrawn by the court. wonder why it was withdrawn. | |||
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"She's been making a series of bad decisions in her life for years and seems to be on a merry-go-round of dodgy guys, drink, irresponsible behaviour and reality shows and PR stunts to pay all the bills. I have plenty of sympathy for her children and some for her but a whole lot more for the countles thousands of ordinary poor people who have to deal with awful stuff day in/day out and don't have the money or contacts to get prompt help whether it be support with her disabled son or rehab for herself. Unlike many of these people who'll have lost social support services over the last 18 months, Katy can afford to pay for support and taxi cabs to see her son if/when she needs to so there's really no excuse to jump in a car when under the influence. She needs to get a grip on her life and the decisions she's making, get treatment because if she doesn't, sooner later she's going to get herself in a whole lot of trouble, maybe even wind up killing someone if not herself. Where will that leave the kids she loves? Her life certainly isn't easy but so many of her issues are self induced. So many baseless assumptions on her ease of access to certain things and her financial situation. Well she ain't on Universal Credit yet! Neither am I but I'm not flush either. Your point? The whole thread and most of the posts are assumptions, depending upon which media you read or listen too. That is all we have to go on.... but that post wasn't any different to the rest.... Just more of a rounded opinion! Hope I got to the point for you! "Not really. Pretty much most of the posts on this thread have just been about discrediting any potential mental health problems she may or may not claim to have. This one insinuated she was so flush with disposable money she can get any help she needed. We don't know that. We don't know what doors are open for her. 'celebrities' and people on the public eye struggle to admit faults or get help just as much as anyone else. Robin Williams, Chester (guy from Linkin Park), Kurt cobain, George Michael, Caroline flack, Amy Winehouse.... So many rich and famous people with money at their disposal, all took their own lives either intentionally or through substance misuse (some even did get help or went into rehab). I just think it's disgusting to speculate on someone's mental health in the manner that some have on here or act as if it's not a problem simply because you assume they have money. I lot of 'celebrities' aren't aa rich as they appear to be. Many live beyond their means and end up in financial difficulties which only exacerbates their issues. #bekind is dead in the water it seems. | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating." I'm glad she didn't hit anyone, I'm sorry mental illness is not a excuse for breaking the law or getting away with it. | |||
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"What’s she ever done to you? Mental illness needs compassion not gloating. I'm glad she didn't hit anyone, I'm sorry mental illness is not a excuse for breaking the law or getting away with it. " Bloody hell a sensible statement at last. | |||
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"It amazes me how much effort some people put in to knowing about the life of someone they claim to dislike so intensely. " What effort are they putting in - it's just an opinion about a topic that's headline news! Lots have seen it from different angles and it's their opinion how they see it, after the media have given us their two pence worth! Bottom line is, the woman in question shouldn't of been behind a wheel, anything could of happend and she wasn't thinking about her children or herself at the time. I'm certain she has more of a choice through finances or connections, to receive the help she needs. Compared to the average person like ourselves - I'm not naive to think otherwise! The irony is #bekind - she wasn't to herself. | |||
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"It amazes me how much effort some people put in to knowing about the life of someone they claim to dislike so intensely. What effort are they putting in - it's just an opinion about a topic that's headline news! Lots have seen it from different angles and it's their opinion how they see it, after the media have given us their two pence worth! Bottom line is, the woman in question shouldn't of been behind a wheel, anything could of happend and she wasn't thinking about her children or herself at the time. I'm certain she has more of a choice through finances or connections, to receive the help she needs. Compared to the average person like ourselves - I'm not naive to think otherwise! The irony is #bekind - she wasn't to herself." I don't know the wrap sheet of people I don't like. Others certainly seem to. Of course she shouldn't have been behind the wheel. According to reports she admitted as much when police arrived on scene. Perhaps she can't afford to help herself as she's spending all of the money people assume she has paying for a school for her disabled child? Should she hoik him out and send herself to rehab? We know nothing of her situation yet some are so quick to judge. | |||
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"Harvey is in care She was high and drinking She is seeking treatment I wish her the best xx" Would you wish me the best if I did the same and run someone over? | |||
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"Harvey is in care She was high and drinking She is seeking treatment I wish her the best xx Would you wish me the best if I did the same and run someone over?" I wouldn't wish you the best I'd try help you best as I could | |||
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"I think they said Harvey lives away now, saw a programme once where he was visiting places to live so it could be true He does live away yes. She said a few days ago that he phones her upset saying "mummy I miss you, I need cuddles and kisses" and it's difficult coz she can't get in the car and go to him like she normally would due to being disqualified from driving." I'd walk | |||
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"MH or not...she was disqualified as well as dr**k. Imagine if she had crashed into or hit someone and killed them I do hope the punishment reflects the situation. Agreed. Actions have consequences. It wasn't long ago people would have quite rightly vilified d*unken drivers for the risks they were taking, now it seems if you say you have MH issues we are told we need to be nice instead If she does have MH issues then maybe the help could have come when she was last disqualified It seems she has been charged with no insurance while disqualified. No mention of drink in todays reports. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58733613 " Now changed to include drink. | |||
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"She’ll be fine.in a years time she will have another book out written by somebody else about how she got through everything and is being lauded as an inspiration for others whilst cashing in on it all" But she shouldn't benefit from this in anyway... | |||
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"I suspect you are right in that she will use Harvey as mitigation why she should not be jailed. I do think she has done an amazing job as a mother I'm intrigued to know why you think she has done "an amazing job as a mother"? More so than any other single mother without her financial resources? Frank Where did they say more so than anyone else?! " Not all mothers do an amazing job, single or otherwise. You just need to look around you to determine that. I think it's safe for me to presume he meant "more so than anyone else". And if he didn't, how do you know he didn't? Frank | |||
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