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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd be concerned that any landlord swayed by that would be unscrupulous

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Rent privately if possible. A good Landlord will look for longer term tenants too.

I have heard some agents do this as a way of guaranteeing income, yes. My friend had to do it.

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By *hrista BellendWoman  over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Yes it's common, especially with so many defaulting on rent payments since covid started, landlords are wary so guaranteed rent payment will jump you up the ladder

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would suggest joining local fb community groups and adding a friendly enquiring post with what you are looking for and perhaps a little about your circumstances that would make you attractive to a landlord .. New Tennants are often secured that way and properties don't even get readvertised

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thanks for the replies, I feared this would be necessary and more common than I suspected. I don't do fb unfortunately, I might be looking into it though if this keeps up. I'm viewing a place on Friday, guess I'll have to put my money where my mouth is, if I like it. I assume it's cloud cuckoo land to think of offering a slightly lower 12month total up front?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thanks for the replies, I feared this would be necessary and more common than I suspected. I don't do fb unfortunately, I might be looking into it though if this keeps up. I'm viewing a place on Friday, guess I'll have to put my money where my mouth is, if I like it. I assume it's cloud cuckoo land to think of offering a slightly lower 12month total up front?"

You could try it and see what happens.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Thanks for the replies, I feared this would be necessary and more common than I suspected. I don't do fb unfortunately, I might be looking into it though if this keeps up. I'm viewing a place on Friday, guess I'll have to put my money where my mouth is, if I like it. I assume it's cloud cuckoo land to think of offering a slightly lower 12month total up front?

You could try it and see what happens.

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Shit or bust Rodney.

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By *elshkinkyMan  over a year ago

south wales

I rent properties out and for me anything over a one month bond is not required… unless a tenant is high risk etc… I know the rules are slightly different in Wales in that all Landlords are required to be registered and take a course with Rent Smart Wales and all bonds/deposits shouldn’t be kept by the Landlord directly but placed in a government scheme to protect them… my only advice is get references before hand and seek out Landlords in your desired area to show interest when one comes up. I have bought a house previously after a tenant told me of their desire to rent in an area and I actively found a house suitable for them … like anything.. there’s good and bad landlords and tenants out there … good luck

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thanks for the replies, I feared this would be necessary and more common than I suspected. I don't do fb unfortunately, I might be looking into it though if this keeps up. I'm viewing a place on Friday, guess I'll have to put my money where my mouth is, if I like it. I assume it's cloud cuckoo land to think of offering a slightly lower 12month total up front?

You could try it and see what happens.

Shit or bust Rodney. "

Exactly!

Let us know how you get on.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple  over a year ago

Coventry

It's also a sellers market. Which is tempting for Landlords to cash in for a juicy lump sum a gain on the property their sitting on for years. That tends to be bought quickly by the under supplied homes to live in market (prices a bit high to buy for rental property). And thus reducing availability of rental property. Either way there's just not enough housing so rubbish whether your buying all renting. But cushy if you already own. It's certainly contributing towards the growing inequality in society.

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By *ilthyRacersCouple  over a year ago

Coventry

Rent up front is much more common since taking extra/bigger deposits was banned.

A friend of mine resorted to offering the landlord an extra £40 a month rent in a bid to secure a property recently as they’re in such short supply where she is.

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Rental properties are shrinking in some areas die to the ability to get more by holiday letting , airBnB or second homes.

But outside of providing the security deposit, and maybe paying a couple months rent up front, I would not be keen to pay 6-12 months up front.

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By *innie The MinxWoman  over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Also to save cash look at getting all your furniture etc on Freecycle or Gumtree etc. Loads of really good quality stuff gets given away for free or cheaply, you just need transport.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Also to save cash look at getting all your furniture etc on Freecycle or Gumtree etc. Loads of really good quality stuff gets given away for free or cheaply, you just need transport."

I'm all over that and auction sites for electricals, I'll probably make a bed and table.

Thanks once again for the replies everyone

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well that was another waste of time. Not interested in a lump sum,full price or not. 2 applicants, so 50/50 chance and still didn't get it. The agent told me the other applicant was female, does this make a difference to you landlords?

I can't take anymore of this crap

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I rented one recently for someone who couldn’t get their own tenancy , it’s very hard , even if you earn 6 figures and pay a years rent upfront it’s hard because many people are in the same boat abd can do this, there’s simply under supply.

Get your alerts setup and register so you get notified of Jew props before they appear online and book viewing ASAP

On viewing ask a lot of questions to the agent to suss out what the landlord wants, you gotta really be good at getting info, then tailor your application

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

It just gets better, after viewing a property I called the agents to make an application. During the conversation I mentioned about the property being cleaned before move in, the response was, if it was pristine it would be 1k a month. What the actual fuck! I'm not talking pristine just clean, run a Hoover over the carpets and some dusting ffs. Apparently this is too much to ask.

I have nobody to vent to, can you tell.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS  over a year ago

Cheshire

One of my colleagues at work going through the exact same trouble and she’s looking for a flat in Manchester as well.

Recently had an attempt to defraud her via a Facebook listing, everything looked ok until they got impatient with her not sending a deposit prior to a viewing. I got suspicious when they said they had parking for two cars for the flat she was looking at.

You’re doing the right thing by going through agents, but be careful if you do go off grid and look through social media.

Good luck with your search as I’ve been there myself

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By *innie The MinxWoman  over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"It just gets better, after viewing a property I called the agents to make an application. During the conversation I mentioned about the property being cleaned before move in, the response was, if it was pristine it would be 1k a month. What the actual fuck! I'm not talking pristine just clean, run a Hoover over the carpets and some dusting ffs. Apparently this is too much to ask.

I have nobody to vent to, can you tell."

Annoying yes, but you'll get to where you need to be OP.

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

wokingham

Despite earning 80k a year I still had to pay 6 months upfront on my rental because apparently I didn’t earn enough for them to let me pay months

The markets fucked

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

if you can getting on a social landlord new build is the best long term option, for a one bedroom there is no real priority other than time on the waiting list, the only thing that would keep you near the bottom of the list was if you was already housed, so if your looking and things are a bit in the air could be a good time to look into a social landlord.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?"

Having exactly the same issue. Been searching for three and a half months...

Rental market is buggered at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm also having the same issue, landlord has sold, I should be out already but haven't managed to find anywhere as many landlords have sold in Brighton and many more people are moving to Brighton so competition is feirce. Absolute nightmare! I'm all packed up but nowhere to go, life on pause in limbo for last 3 months, council will eventually rehouse me if landlord files for bailiffs but it won't be in Brighton and Hove as there is a housing shortage. And I'll be the one who pays for it, ccj against me bad references etc. It's scandalous but nobody cares. I wouldn't mind but I'm a good tenant, all bills paid up to date, never missed a payment etc in all these years but what now? Absolute shit show, renters are treated like cattle, an inconvience almost.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Despite earning 80k a year I still had to pay 6 months upfront on my rental because apparently I didn’t earn enough for them to let me pay months

The markets fucked "

It’s crazy, I was looking foe a rental at the start of this year while a sale and purchase completed for me and my daughter , both full time employed, combined earnings very high, perfect credit ratings, and offering 6 months rent in advance but we still failed to secure anything and in the end we did an informal rental using a non refundable cash bond on the property I was buying

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By *urvyBi-84Man  over a year ago

Lancs


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?"

I rented for years and never heard of having to offer 6-12 months rent upfront unless the prospective tenant was deemed to be high risk (ie little evidence of consistent income) or the landlord was unscrupulous. If you had that much money up to offer up front then you may be better off using it as a deposit to try and get a mortgage and buy your own place!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby "

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?

I rented for years and never heard of having to offer 6-12 months rent upfront unless the prospective tenant was deemed to be high risk (ie little evidence of consistent income) or the landlord was unscrupulous. If you had that much money up to offer up front then you may be better off using it as a deposit to try and get a mortgage and buy your own place!"

You’re right , none of the landlords or agents I spoke to were swayed by me having cash upfront and when I was a landlord it wouldn’t sway me either, risk isn’t just rent payment it’s damage, theft, unpaid bills etc so income, employment history, credit score and references are much more important. Being offered cash can also feel risky.

I have a question. I rent a property and sublet it unofficially , I’m planning to stop paying the rent t soon and the tenant won’t be moving out. How long will it take to evict and how long can I hold from paying rent before a county court date is set ?

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester

i had to pay 6 months up front and do every six months, its ok now after the first six months as i just pay monthly into a savings account, so im still in effect paying monthly, all be it in advance, ive been here nearly 4 years and am the perfect tenant, never break anything, have even improved the flat im in at my own cost, but still have to pay upfront, its a scandle, and it was hard enough to find this place, i certainly dont want to try to move, cant get social housing as a single man, so bottom of the list, and the rent is high for what it is, is a landlords market out there, best of luck

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

wokingham


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you! "

It’s called a free market. It’s his peppery to do as he pleases. You have no “rights” here

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

It’s called a free market. It’s his peppery to do as he pleases. You have no “rights” here "

agree, its a free market, people will charge what the market will bear, thats how it works

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you! "

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

"

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

It’s called a free market. It’s his peppery to do as he pleases. You have no “rights” here "

Haha yes exactly no rights whatsoever, that doesn't make it okay though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I'd like to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one, but I now know how much a toll it can take, so I wish you all the best if luck. Thankfully, I've got this one but at the cost of 12months up front and I said I wanted it cleaning again, apparently it had been done . I can now focus on moving forward at last.

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield

About three months ago I woke up one Saturday morning to a commotion outside my house. When I opened the curtains there were lots of people standing about and cars everywhere.

It was a rental open house viewing. Must have been 30 families turned up over the space of two hours. Scary if you are wanting to rent somewhere and having to compete with that.

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham


"I'd like to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one, but I now know how much a toll it can take, so I wish you all the best if luck. Thankfully, I've got this one but at the cost of 12months up front and I said I wanted it cleaning again, apparently it had been done . I can now focus on moving forward at last. "

Crikey. That's a hell of a lot of money to have to pay up front. Everything in life seems to of gone crazy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i had to pay 6 months up front and do every six months, its ok now after the first six months as i just pay monthly into a savings account, so im still in effect paying monthly, all be it in advance, ive been here nearly 4 years and am the perfect tenant, never break anything, have even improved the flat im in at my own cost, but still have to pay upfront, its a scandle, and it was hard enough to find this place, i certainly dont want to try to move, cant get social housing as a single man, so bottom of the list, and the rent is high for what it is, is a landlords market out there, best of luck"

Awful and shocking hun, how you meant to save for deposit on your own place when rent is so high? Landlord could give you 2 months notice to leave and you're back to square one. No social housing, nobody cares! So long as they get their rent money... Who cares if your whole life is upturned. Things need to change, a place to live is a basic human right yet renters are treated like cattle

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something. "

no its not a human right to have a roof over your head, its a human right to be able to pay for a roof over your head, very different, a private landlord had no obligation to rent to you, if you are that bothered buy somewhere, if you cant afford that its not your landlords fault, i choose to rent as it suits me atm, if i wanted to buy i could do. yes the landlord makes money, well why shouldnt they, its thier house afterall. if you cant buy then you have no choice, and thats where landlords come in, but they must make a profit, otherwise why would they bother. ive lived all over the world and have seen real poverty, we dont have that in the uk, im talking about people with nowhere to call home, private landlords fill a need, if they dont make a profit then they wount bother. we live in a capatalist sociaty, thats how it works, this country is better than most in regards of looking after people.

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By *orny PTMan  over a year ago

Peterborough


"It just gets better, after viewing a property I called the agents to make an application. During the conversation I mentioned about the property being cleaned before move in, the response was, if it was pristine it would be 1k a month. What the actual fuck! I'm not talking pristine just clean, run a Hoover over the carpets and some dusting ffs. Apparently this is too much to ask.

I have nobody to vent to, can you tell."

I bet they charged the previous tenants a cleaning fee. Shysters!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'd like to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one, but I now know how much a toll it can take, so I wish you all the best if luck. Thankfully, I've got this one but at the cost of 12months up front and I said I wanted it cleaning again, apparently it had been done . I can now focus on moving forward at last.

Crikey. That's a hell of a lot of money to have to pay up front. Everything in life seems to of gone crazy."

It's a truck load of bloody money, thankfully I'm able to afford it because my ex bought me out and I don't need to buy. Still a bit of a bitter pill though. It's mad at the moment, I've even had the price go up between booking the viewing and actually doing the viewing, I noped the f#@k out of that one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

my friend is trying to move to chesterfield and there is just nothing, the place he is in now is overpriced by about £200 a month and he’s literally stuck there. it’s only going to get worse as well

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

no its not a human right to have a roof over your head, its a human right to be able to pay for a roof over your head, very different, a private landlord had no obligation to rent to you, if you are that bothered buy somewhere, if you cant afford that its not your landlords fault, i choose to rent as it suits me atm, if i wanted to buy i could do. yes the landlord makes money, well why shouldnt they, its thier house afterall. if you cant buy then you have no choice, and thats where landlords come in, but they must make a profit, otherwise why would they bother. ive lived all over the world and have seen real poverty, we dont have that in the uk, im talking about people with nowhere to call home, private landlords fill a need, if they dont make a profit then they wount bother. we live in a capatalist sociaty, thats how it works, this country is better than most in regards of looking after people. "

I said basic human need not basic human right (though it should be). I understand how it works and don't have a problem with landlords making a profit, of course they should. Could be done with a little more human decency that's all.

I've also lived all over the world and seen extremes in poverty and I'm grateful we don't have that here but 'here' is where I live and relative to this environment, my experience counts for something. I should not be punished (losing deposit, getting ccj against me, references affected etc) when there is literally nowhere to fucking move to unless you got a year's rent in advance as the OP has had to. A year's rent is £12,000 here.

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester

untill house prices come down its not going to change, that wont happen until the retired who own homes way above what they could afford now die, they have kept the market artaficialy high, my parents paid 20k for thier house in 1974, sold for 1.5 million in 2009, way above inflation, great for them it paid for thier care, but not so great for the rest of us

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

no its not a human right to have a roof over your head, its a human right to be able to pay for a roof over your head, very different, a private landlord had no obligation to rent to you, if you are that bothered buy somewhere, if you cant afford that its not your landlords fault, i choose to rent as it suits me atm, if i wanted to buy i could do. yes the landlord makes money, well why shouldnt they, its thier house afterall. if you cant buy then you have no choice, and thats where landlords come in, but they must make a profit, otherwise why would they bother. ive lived all over the world and have seen real poverty, we dont have that in the uk, im talking about people with nowhere to call home, private landlords fill a need, if they dont make a profit then they wount bother. we live in a capatalist sociaty, thats how it works, this country is better than most in regards of looking after people.

I said basic human need not basic human right (though it should be). I understand how it works and don't have a problem with landlords making a profit, of course they should. Could be done with a little more human decency that's all.

I've also lived all over the world and seen extremes in poverty and I'm grateful we don't have that here but 'here' is where I live and relative to this environment, my experience counts for something. I should not be punished (losing deposit, getting ccj against me, references affected etc) when there is literally nowhere to fucking move to unless you got a year's rent in advance as the OP has had to. A year's rent is £12,000 here. "

im not saying its right, im in the same situation, but that is how it is unfortunatly, i wish i bought a few houses to rent out when i could have afforded to, sadly i didnt, be raking it in now

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman  over a year ago

lancashire


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?"

Hey...have you thought about checking out the social housing in the area you live? No deposits needed and the lease is for as long as you want the property, reasonable rents too and much less than a private land lord, worth checking them out. Good luck.

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?

Hey...have you thought about checking out the social housing in the area you live? No deposits needed and the lease is for as long as you want the property, reasonable rents too and much less than a private land lord, worth checking them out. Good luck."

as a single you have no chance espesially if a man, tried that route, was told i would have to wait 15 years to be even looked at, there arent enough to go aroundso they have to prioritise, thatcher sold off all the social housing, and most have never been replaced

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something. "

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Did this a few years ago. Agent and landlord were dicking about on a 12 month rental. Wanting all sorts of check and bullshit paperwork which had no time to deal with. So offered to pay all up front on condition it that it was held in escrow and released in quarterly stages. Had never rented before so not sure if it was a big deal back then. It was a short term temp measure between purchase. But it did the trick.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?

Hey...have you thought about checking out the social housing in the area you live? No deposits needed and the lease is for as long as you want the property, reasonable rents too and much less than a private land lord, worth checking them out. Good luck.

as a single you have no chance espesially if a man, tried that route, was told i would have to wait 15 years to be even looked at, there arent enough to go aroundso they have to prioritise, thatcher sold off all the social housing, and most have never been replaced"

Exactly, the whole system needs to be revised, I was told 5 years before I'd even be able to put bids in and then it could be years after that before I might get somewhere. In the meantime I'll be relocated outside of the Borough unless I stay in Brighton and Hove renting privately. If I leave the Borough I'm no longer entitled to be on the list, catch 22.

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"I've been trying to find somewhere to live for a little while now, and it's proving a little more irksome than I anticipated. It's most definitely a landlords market out there, with some just ceasing communication mid process or the agents of course. The good properties obviously go quickly, with some only actually appearing as rent agreed straight off the bat. Anyway, it's been suggested to me to offer 6-12months rent upfront. Is this a common thing now? I'd sooner not because I need to buy quite literally everything, from plates,cutlery, pots and pans to beds,sofa, linen and towels. Can anybody shed any light on this please?

Hey...have you thought about checking out the social housing in the area you live? No deposits needed and the lease is for as long as you want the property, reasonable rents too and much less than a private land lord, worth checking them out. Good luck.

as a single you have no chance espesially if a man, tried that route, was told i would have to wait 15 years to be even looked at, there arent enough to go aroundso they have to prioritise, thatcher sold off all the social housing, and most have never been replaced

Exactly, the whole system needs to be revised, I was told 5 years before I'd even be able to put bids in and then it could be years after that before I might get somewhere. In the meantime I'll be relocated outside of the Borough unless I stay in Brighton and Hove renting privately. If I leave the Borough I'm no longer entitled to be on the list, catch 22."

thats why i rent privatly, its a shit hole and expensive, but have no other choice, im lucky that i can afford it, but only just

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area. "

It would be nice if those disabled folk could eventually own the property they pay you for. All those years of rental payments and at any moment you can give them 2 months notice to leave and cash in yet again if you sell leaving them with nothing. For people on benefits getting hold of 3 months deposit is not that easy either so sorry I have a different pov on this. Not your fault but you see what I'm getting at?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand. "

Wow that's really harsh, you can get insurance for that though I believe

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand. "
and that is part of the problem

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area.

It would be nice if those disabled folk could eventually own the property they pay you for. All those years of rental payments and at any moment you can give them 2 months notice to leave and cash in yet again if you sell leaving them with nothing. For people on benefits getting hold of 3 months deposit is not that easy either so sorry I have a different pov on this. Not your fault but you see what I'm getting at? "

Not really. It'd be nice for me to have my own airplane too, but unfortunately i cant afford one... i wont go blaming British airways or richard branson though ill just ride one when i please and be happy im in a nice enviroment when doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand.

Wow that's really harsh, you can get insurance for that though I believe "

Wrong. Insurance doesnt cover it. Its happned 3 times too me. Its the reason i stopped letting to the public. People take the piss, its lovely coming back to a wrecked property that leaves you with a 40 grand bill to sort. Zero liability.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Rental market in this country is fucked and has been for a while. Not sure what it's like in Wale, Scotland or NI though.

A friend from Vienna was equally as shocked about how 6 month tenancies were the norm here as I was when I found out she had a 13 year lease on her flat.

Just wish that there was more recognition that these are people's homes and should be treated as such. Majority of landlords and agents seem to see long term rental properties at just a shade above AirBNB but with less hospitality.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

there are no council houses in coventry anymore any that tenants didn't buy got sold to a private social landlord. Started off ok, but they have been sold from one company to the next some of the old tower blocks are in a shocking state but they have no plans as yet to pull them down, like they did a lot of the old 1930's brick built houses, the bricks went to build new houses with the old look, bit of a con to be fair.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area.

It would be nice if those disabled folk could eventually own the property they pay you for. All those years of rental payments and at any moment you can give them 2 months notice to leave and cash in yet again if you sell leaving them with nothing. For people on benefits getting hold of 3 months deposit is not that easy either so sorry I have a different pov on this. Not your fault but you see what I'm getting at?

Not really. It'd be nice for me to have my own airplane too, but unfortunately i cant afford one... i wont go blaming British airways or richard branson though ill just ride one when i please and be happy im in a nice enviroment when doing so. "

Wow, the arrogance! You can't compare a home to an airplane ride, or yourself to Richard fucking Brandson! You seriously don't think it's unfair that you own 18 homes and those disabled folk over many years will pay more in rent than you did to buy each home yet they will have no rights to stay there or pass it to their children etc? You think it's fair that you get to decide if they can have pets, put pictures on the wall or you can tell them to leave? Don't you wish those people could have the chance to own their own properties rather than pay someone else? In other countries the rental system is more fair, rent caps, 2 years notice to leave if at all etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand.

Wow that's really harsh, you can get insurance for that though I believe

Wrong. Insurance doesnt cover it. Its happned 3 times too me. Its the reason i stopped letting to the public. People take the piss, its lovely coming back to a wrecked property that leaves you with a 40 grand bill to sort. Zero liability. "

Exactly that. Motherinlaw rents out her very nice bungalow as she lives with us. A bunch of cunts trashed the place. Thry would not pay the rent after a few moths. Thanfully MiL rented through ageents had isurance. The landlords pays

EXTA for insurance rental cover and often no more than 80% of rental but not cover damage then there were the court fees covered by insurance her next premuins will be highr

The ex renters work had money in the bank checked out as good, not sure why they did that - but MiL/us pursed them via court, CCJ against them, awared payments close to 20k sound a lot its not hardly cover the reairs never mind the lost rentals the heartach/stress etc etc. Last year had them chased twice via high court baliffs the 20k bill was almost 27k taking court/baliff costs and them refusing to pay having a car towed away stuff taken away - lol, they finally paid 10k in cash and reyaig 1k a month and done so for 12 months just a few months to go to clear off our, court and blaiff costs - if they paidthe orginal amount it would have been 20k

If you are a landlord, go via well established letting agents, buy rental and legal cover, ensure the people you are renting to wrk and have money or a gurantor - you will always get your money some of it back in most cases rather than zero.

Landords be careful those offering you rent up front etc, just google stuff like this and be careful of those that can move in next week do your research well and most of the time you will be ok

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By *uenevereWoman  over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I used to work in homelessness for many years and can confirm that finding affordable rental properties with decent landlords, is increasingly difficult.

Whilst I agree that landlords do get screwed over sometimes, in my 15 years of experience, that's relatively rare and often due to lack of proper reference checks.

Low income households, cannot afford to pay 3 months advance rent, let alone 6 or 12.

What we need is more social housing and better regulation.

I anticipate homeless figures going through the roof in the coming months, especially for those not treated as priority by the system.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand.

Wow that's really harsh, you can get insurance for that though I believe "

This is actually a genuine reason a lot of landlord charge such deposits.

I knew a few, who have had their properties trashed by tenants. It can be devastating to a landlord, who has poured money and work in to a property to have it completely ruined to the point they’ve had to sell because they can’t afford to repair. Also the stress that can come with the eviction process, especially if you do not have the money to cover upfront fees.

Not all landlords are money grabbing or lack humanity. Some (actually a lot) have had to go through a hard lesson of bad tenants, that now make it more difficult for good tenants.

Landlords also shouldn’t have to be out of pocket. There’s no guarantee the tenants won’t be the ones to leave you with debts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area.

It would be nice if those disabled folk could eventually own the property they pay you for. All those years of rental payments and at any moment you can give them 2 months notice to leave and cash in yet again if you sell leaving them with nothing. For people on benefits getting hold of 3 months deposit is not that easy either so sorry I have a different pov on this. Not your fault but you see what I'm getting at?

Not really. It'd be nice for me to have my own airplane too, but unfortunately i cant afford one... i wont go blaming British airways or richard branson though ill just ride one when i please and be happy im in a nice enviroment when doing so.

Wow, the arrogance! You can't compare a home to an airplane ride, or yourself to Richard fucking Brandson! You seriously don't think it's unfair that you own 18 homes and those disabled folk over many years will pay more in rent than you did to buy each home yet they will have no rights to stay there or pass it to their children etc? You think it's fair that you get to decide if they can have pets, put pictures on the wall or you can tell them to leave? Don't you wish those people could have the chance to own their own properties rather than pay someone else? In other countries the rental system is more fair, rent caps, 2 years notice to leave if at all etc etc "

1- the government pays.

2- do you have any idea how much personal investment it costs to make these homes fully wheelchair accessible? Which many people couldnt afford to do? Each home i do costs 60k to convert... i suppose these people can struggle

3- these people who rent arnt in the position to own their own home.

4- im on very very good terms with everyone of my tenents and they are so happy.

5- they can decorate them as they please and have pets, they treat them as their own homes.

6-im not aware anyother housing company that supplies houses to this spec and with the accessibility.

7- i supply to demand... im not forcing any of my happy tenants to be in the properties....

6 of my tenants have cerebral palsy and are unable to obtain mortgages.

Believe it or not theres many out there that dont want to own... if they own they loose all sorts of funding and social help.

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By *uenevereWoman  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand.

Wow that's really harsh, you can get insurance for that though I believe

This is actually a genuine reason a lot of landlord charge such deposits.

I knew a few, who have had their properties trashed by tenants. It can be devastating to a landlord, who has poured money and work in to a property to have it completely ruined to the point they’ve had to sell because they can’t afford to repair. Also the stress that can come with the eviction process, especially if you do not have the money to cover upfront fees.

Not all landlords are money grabbing or lack humanity. Some (actually a lot) have had to go through a hard lesson of bad tenants, that now make it more difficult for good tenants.

Landlords also shouldn’t have to be out of pocket. There’s no guarantee the tenants won’t be the ones to leave you with debts. "

Landlords these days often prefer large up front rents, because they're not keen on the need to put deposits in recognised deposit schemes.

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By *uenevereWoman  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area.

It would be nice if those disabled folk could eventually own the property they pay you for. All those years of rental payments and at any moment you can give them 2 months notice to leave and cash in yet again if you sell leaving them with nothing. For people on benefits getting hold of 3 months deposit is not that easy either so sorry I have a different pov on this. Not your fault but you see what I'm getting at?

Not really. It'd be nice for me to have my own airplane too, but unfortunately i cant afford one... i wont go blaming British airways or richard branson though ill just ride one when i please and be happy im in a nice enviroment when doing so.

Wow, the arrogance! You can't compare a home to an airplane ride, or yourself to Richard fucking Brandson! You seriously don't think it's unfair that you own 18 homes and those disabled folk over many years will pay more in rent than you did to buy each home yet they will have no rights to stay there or pass it to their children etc? You think it's fair that you get to decide if they can have pets, put pictures on the wall or you can tell them to leave? Don't you wish those people could have the chance to own their own properties rather than pay someone else? In other countries the rental system is more fair, rent caps, 2 years notice to leave if at all etc etc

1- the government pays.

2- do you have any idea how much personal investment it costs to make these homes fully wheelchair accessible? Which many people couldnt afford to do? Each home i do costs 60k to convert... i suppose these people can struggle

3- these people who rent arnt in the position to own their own home.

4- im on very very good terms with everyone of my tenents and they are so happy.

5- they can decorate them as they please and have pets, they treat them as their own homes.

6-im not aware anyother housing company that supplies houses to this spec and with the accessibility.

7- i supply to demand... im not forcing any of my happy tenants to be in the properties....

6 of my tenants have cerebral palsy and are unable to obtain mortgages.

Believe it or not theres many out there that dont want to own... if they own they loose all sorts of funding and social help. "

I agree with all but the last statement.

Assistance is assessed on disability and need, not the type of accommodation you live in.

In fact being a home owner is often beneficial if you become disabled as landlords aren't keen on having properties adapted.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The main reason people are asking for 6-12 months now is (and ive been there when i used to let out private) is if someone stops paying the rent, legally it can take 12 months to get that person out the property, its happening all over now,chancers pay 2 months then stop paying. Law says you cant manhandle someone to get them out, you have to go through legal measures. 9 months it took me to remove a non paying tenant, thats 9 months of mortgage payments i had to upstand.

Wow that's really harsh, you can get insurance for that though I believe

This is actually a genuine reason a lot of landlord charge such deposits.

I knew a few, who have had their properties trashed by tenants. It can be devastating to a landlord, who has poured money and work in to a property to have it completely ruined to the point they’ve had to sell because they can’t afford to repair. Also the stress that can come with the eviction process, especially if you do not have the money to cover upfront fees.

Not all landlords are money grabbing or lack humanity. Some (actually a lot) have had to go through a hard lesson of bad tenants, that now make it more difficult for good tenants.

Landlords also shouldn’t have to be out of pocket. There’s no guarantee the tenants won’t be the ones to leave you with debts. "

Wow yes the other side of the coin, seems the current system in place doesn't quite work for both parties, landlords shouldn't be out of pocket and tenants shouldnt be exploited. The whole thing needs to change imo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I ask for 3 month deposit, 6 or even 12 month are the norm now, and unfortunately the way it is atm its first come first served. Ive just sold one of mine to a tenant and bought another to renovate and rent out... im having enquires even though its bare brick. Most are from people who have sold and want short term rent while they find another house. Theres definitely a lack of nice rentals available especially in derby

You should be ashamed of yourself! 3 months deposit plus 6 to 12 months rent upfront? Anyone who can afford that can afford to buy property ffs! This is people's lives you're capitalising on and it's not fair. I'm not poor but I'm not in a position to put that kind of rent and deposit up front either. Common people have the right to have a home too, renting shouldn't be for the elite! I hope karma bites you on the ass some day, have a think about what you're doing here! Pricing people out! Leaving the non elite to fight over scraps, ie shitholes! Absolute shame on you!

calm down, read again.

"i ask for 3 months"

(,) thats a comma, a comma is used to set off appositives

No need to be condescending, that's really low form. You think you're doing people a favour by 'only' asking for 3 months deposit? This is the problem, landlords don't really want tenants ie real people with real lives to live in their properties they only care about the money. A roof over your head is a basic human need, asking for 3 months deposit is unnecessary, it's the equivalent of tesco asking you to pay for your shopping 3 months in advance or something.

Firstly my homes i let out a all state of the art tech low energy eco bungalows aimed at disabled tenants, easy access homes widened doors and disabled accessible garden. 3 months is not over the top.

i charge 650pcm for a 2 bedroom with open plan 20k kitchen diner with top of the range bosch appliances that includes a gardner and cleaner. I think that very very cheap... i have 18 properties in all and all are aimed at the disabled client. £650per month falls within goverment housing benefit for the area.

It would be nice if those disabled folk could eventually own the property they pay you for. All those years of rental payments and at any moment you can give them 2 months notice to leave and cash in yet again if you sell leaving them with nothing. For people on benefits getting hold of 3 months deposit is not that easy either so sorry I have a different pov on this. Not your fault but you see what I'm getting at?

Not really. It'd be nice for me to have my own airplane too, but unfortunately i cant afford one... i wont go blaming British airways or richard branson though ill just ride one when i please and be happy im in a nice enviroment when doing so.

Wow, the arrogance! You can't compare a home to an airplane ride, or yourself to Richard fucking Brandson! You seriously don't think it's unfair that you own 18 homes and those disabled folk over many years will pay more in rent than you did to buy each home yet they will have no rights to stay there or pass it to their children etc? You think it's fair that you get to decide if they can have pets, put pictures on the wall or you can tell them to leave? Don't you wish those people could have the chance to own their own properties rather than pay someone else? In other countries the rental system is more fair, rent caps, 2 years notice to leave if at all etc etc

1- the government pays.

2- do you have any idea how much personal investment it costs to make these homes fully wheelchair accessible? Which many people couldnt afford to do? Each home i do costs 60k to convert... i suppose these people can struggle

3- these people who rent arnt in the position to own their own home.

4- im on very very good terms with everyone of my tenents and they are so happy.

5- they can decorate them as they please and have pets, they treat them as their own homes.

6-im not aware anyother housing company that supplies houses to this spec and with the accessibility.

7- i supply to demand... im not forcing any of my happy tenants to be in the properties....

6 of my tenants have cerebral palsy and are unable to obtain mortgages.

Believe it or not theres many out there that dont want to own... if they own they loose all sorts of funding and social help.

I agree with all but the last statement.

Assistance is assessed on disability and need, not the type of accommodation you live in.

In fact being a home owner is often beneficial if you become disabled as landlords aren't keen on having properties adapted."

But this is also means tested. So depending on assets some may find themselves having to sell up to afford/become eligible for the government help.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

1- the government pays.

2- do you have any idea how much personal investment it costs to make these homes fully wheelchair accessible? Which many people couldnt afford to do? Each home i do costs 60k to convert... i suppose these people can struggle

3- these people who rent arnt in the position to own their own home.

4- im on very very good terms with everyone of my tenents and they are so happy.

5- they can decorate them as they please and have pets, they treat them as their own homes.

6-im not aware anyother housing company that supplies houses to this spec and with the accessibility.

7- i supply to demand... im not forcing any of my happy tenants to be in the properties....

6 of my tenants have cerebral palsy and are unable to obtain mortgages.

Believe it or not theres many out there that dont want to own... if they own they loose all sorts of funding and social help. "

As someone who owns their home with a mortgage and found herself newly disabled 4 (nearly 5) years ago, I can confirm that I cannot afford to have my own home adapted. I struggle around a regular house with stairs, using crutches. I stand on one leg in the shower. I can't cook a meal in my own kitchen because I can't stand up to do it and seats don't help when there's nowhere to put your legs underneath. My husband does well over 95% of the household chores. I do the bringing-home-the-bacon bit because I'm the main income earner. That has meant forcing myself, my body, to carry on commuting and working FT because there's no alternative. I'm regularly in agony. I use a wheelchair at work and out and about but our house would need major structural changes to make it anywhere near accessible.

I can confirm that having the option to rent something like Gatsby is describing would be attractive to me and my family. If our house was saleable for anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile selling, I'd be looking for something similar. We don't receive any benefits or anything else, we both work FT and so this means we are not eligible for any support in getting our house adapted. I also paid the majority of the cost of getting my own car adapted. Access to Work contributed towards it but did not cover the whole cost. I recently had to pay for it to be done for the second time in 4yrs because the original installation failed but the warranty was only 1yr. I am not eligible for Motability either. Nor for NHS support in paying for mobility aids. I paid for my own wheelchair, pay for all repairs and parts etc. It makes life very expensive.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

I agree with all but the last statement.

Assistance is assessed on disability and need, not the type of accommodation you live in.

In fact being a home owner is often beneficial if you become disabled as landlords aren't keen on having properties adapted."

It certainly hasn't been beneficial for me/us. We simply cannot afford to have our house adapted and the council occ health were quick to wash their hands. I got a RADAR key, that's it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

1- the government pays.

2- do you have any idea how much personal investment it costs to make these homes fully wheelchair accessible? Which many people couldnt afford to do? Each home i do costs 60k to convert... i suppose these people can struggle

3- these people who rent arnt in the position to own their own home.

4- im on very very good terms with everyone of my tenents and they are so happy.

5- they can decorate them as they please and have pets, they treat them as their own homes.

6-im not aware anyother housing company that supplies houses to this spec and with the accessibility.

7- i supply to demand... im not forcing any of my happy tenants to be in the properties....

6 of my tenants have cerebral palsy and are unable to obtain mortgages.

Believe it or not theres many out there that dont want to own... if they own they loose all sorts of funding and social help.

As someone who owns their home with a mortgage and found herself newly disabled 4 (nearly 5) years ago, I can confirm that I cannot afford to have my own home adapted. I struggle around a regular house with stairs, using crutches. I stand on one leg in the shower. I can't cook a meal in my own kitchen because I can't stand up to do it and seats don't help when there's nowhere to put your legs underneath. My husband does well over 95% of the household chores. I do the bringing-home-the-bacon bit because I'm the main income earner. That has meant forcing myself, my body, to carry on commuting and working FT because there's no alternative. I'm regularly in agony. I use a wheelchair at work and out and about but our house would need major structural changes to make it anywhere near accessible.

I can confirm that having the option to rent something like Gatsby is describing would be attractive to me and my family. If our house was saleable for anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile selling, I'd be looking for something similar. We don't receive any benefits or anything else, we both work FT and so this means we are not eligible for any support in getting our house adapted. I also paid the majority of the cost of getting my own car adapted. Access to Work contributed towards it but did not cover the whole cost. I recently had to pay for it to be done for the second time in 4yrs because the original installation failed but the warranty was only 1yr. I am not eligible for Motability either. Nor for NHS support in paying for mobility aids. I paid for my own wheelchair, pay for all repairs and parts etc. It makes life very expensive. "

Thankyou lovely. I was hoping to hear your view tbh, i wish i could afford to do mre like this but im at the absolute limit on my borrowing so couldnt do any more. My nephew has cerebral palsy and had the idea after seeing his home hes in a very lucky situation where he could afford to buy & convert his home at the time there was nothing on the market, when he went into care he could not sell the home for love nor money unfortunately resale for these type of homes isnt great but as arental theyre very popular.

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester

not to belittle anyone but my father was tetraplegic, only one of two to survive in the uk, the other being frank williams af the f1 team, he lived a full life untill he sadly died earlyer this year aged 80, being disabled doesnt stop you doing things, he had a great carear and provided for us well, i thought all dads were in a wheelchair untill i met friends parents as a child. like everything, its what you make of it, if you want to be a victim then thats your choice, or you can get on and shut up like my dad did, he is my insperation.

when ever i hurt myself, currently have a few broken bones, i ask myself what would he do, grounds me in a big way

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"

1- the government pays.

2- do you have any idea how much personal investment it costs to make these homes fully wheelchair accessible? Which many people couldnt afford to do? Each home i do costs 60k to convert... i suppose these people can struggle

3- these people who rent arnt in the position to own their own home.

4- im on very very good terms with everyone of my tenents and they are so happy.

5- they can decorate them as they please and have pets, they treat them as their own homes.

6-im not aware anyother housing company that supplies houses to this spec and with the accessibility.

7- i supply to demand... im not forcing any of my happy tenants to be in the properties....

6 of my tenants have cerebral palsy and are unable to obtain mortgages.

Believe it or not theres many out there that dont want to own... if they own they loose all sorts of funding and social help.

As someone who owns their home with a mortgage and found herself newly disabled 4 (nearly 5) years ago, I can confirm that I cannot afford to have my own home adapted. I struggle around a regular house with stairs, using crutches. I stand on one leg in the shower. I can't cook a meal in my own kitchen because I can't stand up to do it and seats don't help when there's nowhere to put your legs underneath. My husband does well over 95% of the household chores. I do the bringing-home-the-bacon bit because I'm the main income earner. That has meant forcing myself, my body, to carry on commuting and working FT because there's no alternative. I'm regularly in agony. I use a wheelchair at work and out and about but our house would need major structural changes to make it anywhere near accessible.

I can confirm that having the option to rent something like Gatsby is describing would be attractive to me and my family. If our house was saleable for anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile selling, I'd be looking for something similar. We don't receive any benefits or anything else, we both work FT and so this means we are not eligible for any support in getting our house adapted. I also paid the majority of the cost of getting my own car adapted. Access to Work contributed towards it but did not cover the whole cost. I recently had to pay for it to be done for the second time in 4yrs because the original installation failed but the warranty was only 1yr. I am not eligible for Motability either. Nor for NHS support in paying for mobility aids. I paid for my own wheelchair, pay for all repairs and parts etc. It makes life very expensive.

Thankyou lovely. I was hoping to hear your view tbh, i wish i could afford to do mre like this but im at the absolute limit on my borrowing so couldnt do any more. My nephew has cerebral palsy and had the idea after seeing his home hes in a very lucky situation where he could afford to buy & convert his home at the time there was nothing on the market, when he went into care he could not sell the home for love nor money unfortunately resale for these type of homes isnt great but as arental theyre very popular. "

I'd be happy to rent, to be honest. Associates from wheelchair basketball have either built from scratch using compensation they received for their injuries (very fair that they received it) or are unable to work and are renting from the LA or housing association. I believe I am the only disabled member of the team working FT. Coach does, but he is AB. I would like to reduce my working hours because I find it takes a massive toll on my body but cannot afford to do so. So, the totally unrepresentative straw poll from my team mates would uphold your observation that many disabled people cannot purchase property, for whatever reason.

Many of my team mates COULD work, by the way. The obstacle is finding an employer who is willing to even interview them.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"not to belittle anyone but my father was tetraplegic, only one of two to survive in the uk, the other being frank williams af the f1 team, he lived a full life untill he sadly died earlyer this year aged 80, being disabled doesnt stop you doing things, he had a great carear and provided for us well, i thought all dads were in a wheelchair untill i met friends parents as a child. like everything, its what you make of it, if you want to be a victim then thats your choice, or you can get on and shut up like my dad did, he is my insperation.

when ever i hurt myself, currently have a few broken bones, i ask myself what would he do, grounds me in a big way"

That's lovely. I am disabled and work FT but that's mainly because I'm in the same job I was in before my disability started. A new manager tried very hard to get rid of me when she started. I think her second words to me were "capability process." I spent a year fighting deeply unfair treatment, with my regional union people behind me. I was coming to terms with a new disability and fighting for my job. I'm the main earner, you see.

My team mates, most of whom are disabled from birth, have encountered massive discrimination in seeking employment. Two young ladies completed degrees but can't get so much as an interview. They cannot wait on tables or stand behind a bar, the "typical" entry jobs in hospitality etc are completely unrealistic. One gentleman with a traumatic amputation has been made redundant twice in two years and also cannot do any job involving standing because he can't use a prosthetic. Others who are older have given up after knock back after knock back or deeply unfair treatment by horrible employers.

Your sample size of 1 is unfortunately not representative.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"not to belittle anyone but my father was tetraplegic, only one of two to survive in the uk, the other being frank williams af the f1 team, he lived a full life untill he sadly died earlyer this year aged 80, being disabled doesnt stop you doing things, he had a great carear and provided for us well, i thought all dads were in a wheelchair untill i met friends parents as a child. like everything, its what you make of it, if you want to be a victim then thats your choice, or you can get on and shut up like my dad did, he is my insperation.

when ever i hurt myself, currently have a few broken bones, i ask myself what would he do, grounds me in a big way"

Id does make you think doesnt it, give up or open doors..

on that i sold some bits and bobs this week and the guy who came round was deaf, i actually had a little cry after he went i felt so so ignorant that i didnt know how to sign, and thought how many times ive tutted at the tv and changed the channel when someones signing in the corner. He was such a happy soul and just getting on with it i thought what would i do in that situation or any situation that leaves you disabled in anyway. The worlds got better for people with needs but so so so much more can be done.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"not to belittle anyone but my father was tetraplegic, only one of two to survive in the uk, the other being frank williams af the f1 team, he lived a full life untill he sadly died earlyer this year aged 80, being disabled doesnt stop you doing things, he had a great carear and provided for us well, i thought all dads were in a wheelchair untill i met friends parents as a child. like everything, its what you make of it, if you want to be a victim then thats your choice, or you can get on and shut up like my dad did, he is my insperation.

when ever i hurt myself, currently have a few broken bones, i ask myself what would he do, grounds me in a big way"

Um, I wouldn’t base a whole ass spectrum or extremely varied disabilities based on one person’s experience. Telling people you know nothing of their ability to “shut up and get on” is highly offensive! Because a disability may make it difficult or impossible to do certain things other may be able to do, does NOT give said person a victim mentally. It just mean they are unable to do it. That also doesn’t stop them from living their lives the best of THEIR ABILITY!

I find your response quite ignorant if I am honest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"not to belittle anyone but my father was tetraplegic, only one of two to survive in the uk, the other being frank williams af the f1 team, he lived a full life untill he sadly died earlyer this year aged 80, being disabled doesnt stop you doing things, he had a great carear and provided for us well, i thought all dads were in a wheelchair untill i met friends parents as a child. like everything, its what you make of it, if you want to be a victim then thats your choice, or you can get on and shut up like my dad did, he is my insperation.

when ever i hurt myself, currently have a few broken bones, i ask myself what would he do, grounds me in a big way

That's lovely. I am disabled and work FT but that's mainly because I'm in the same job I was in before my disability started. A new manager tried very hard to get rid of me when she started. I think her second words to me were "capability process." I spent a year fighting deeply unfair treatment, with my regional union people behind me. I was coming to terms with a new disability and fighting for my job. I'm the main earner, you see.

My team mates, most of whom are disabled from birth, have encountered massive discrimination in seeking employment. Two young ladies completed degrees but can't get so much as an interview. They cannot wait on tables or stand behind a bar, the "typical" entry jobs in hospitality etc are completely unrealistic. One gentleman with a traumatic amputation has been made redundant twice in two years and also cannot do any job involving standing because he can't use a prosthetic. Others who are older have given up after knock back after knock back or deeply unfair treatment by horrible employers.

Your sample size of 1 is unfortunately not representative. "

You put this much more eloquently than myself. Thank you!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West

And people wonder why disabled people struggle to find jobs, when a global climate conference is not made accessible to a wheelchair user. This lady managed to hi-ho all the way from Israel but once in the UK, her options were buses (unsuitable for her wheelchair) or to walk. She's been unable to do her job for the Israeli Government today, not because she lacks the ambition to work but because other people put obstacles in her way.

Welcome to the life of disabled people.

BBC News - COP26: Minister in wheelchair unable to attend summit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59128618

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman  over a year ago

The place where fairies live


"I'd like to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one, but I now know how much a toll it can take, so I wish you all the best if luck. Thankfully, I've got this one but at the cost of 12months up front and I said I wanted it cleaning again, apparently it had been done . I can now focus on moving forward at last. "

Really pleased you've for a place and you can now many it your own.

I now own a property but only because both my parents died. I was in social housing from 2000 when I left my husband.

Renting is so expensive nowadays x

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By *akie32Man  over a year ago

winchester


"And people wonder why disabled people struggle to find jobs, when a global climate conference is not made accessible to a wheelchair user. This lady managed to hi-ho all the way from Israel but once in the UK, her options were buses (unsuitable for her wheelchair) or to walk. She's been unable to do her job for the Israeli Government today, not because she lacks the ambition to work but because other people put obstacles in her way.

Welcome to the life of disabled people.

BBC News - COP26: Minister in wheelchair unable to attend summit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59128618"

all busses have wheelchair access, non story

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"And people wonder why disabled people struggle to find jobs, when a global climate conference is not made accessible to a wheelchair user. This lady managed to hi-ho all the way from Israel but once in the UK, her options were buses (unsuitable for her wheelchair) or to walk. She's been unable to do her job for the Israeli Government today, not because she lacks the ambition to work but because other people put obstacles in her way.

Welcome to the life of disabled people.

BBC News - COP26: Minister in wheelchair unable to attend summit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59128618all busses have wheelchair access, non story"

Do they now?! The climate summit is being held in a secure venue. The only way in is on foot or shuttle bus. The shuttle bus is not wheelchair accessible, hence the issue of the Israel delegate.

You are very rude, you know that?

Buses are generally only wheelchair accessible if the driver gets out of the cab and puts a ramp down. Guess what? Some of them refuse and drive off. People take up the SINGLE wheelchair space on the buses and what then? If they refuse to move, you have no choice but to get off.

Have YOU tried to navigate the world by wheelchair?

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By *radley99Man  over a year ago

Bideford

It’s the same all over the country, as a renter I’ve just found myself shamefully doing this offering six months in advance in order to secure the place!!! Letting agents even told me that with over 100 applications to view they whittled it down for only 3 of us to actually view then apply!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And people wonder why disabled people struggle to find jobs, when a global climate conference is not made accessible to a wheelchair user. This lady managed to hi-ho all the way from Israel but once in the UK, her options were buses (unsuitable for her wheelchair) or to walk. She's been unable to do her job for the Israeli Government today, not because she lacks the ambition to work but because other people put obstacles in her way.

Welcome to the life of disabled people.

BBC News - COP26: Minister in wheelchair unable to attend summit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59128618all busses have wheelchair access, non story

Do they now?! The climate summit is being held in a secure venue. The only way in is on foot or shuttle bus. The shuttle bus is not wheelchair accessible, hence the issue of the Israel delegate.

You are very rude, you know that?

Buses are generally only wheelchair accessible if the driver gets out of the cab and puts a ramp down. Guess what? Some of them refuse and drive off. People take up the SINGLE wheelchair space on the buses and what then? If they refuse to move, you have no choice but to get off.

Have YOU tried to navigate the world by wheelchair? "

The wheelchair space that is shared by prams/buggy’s also.

The guy is honestly ignorant.

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