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"It was in a place of work so good on the woman that brought the case and good on the ruling. Okay with that Babe ?" Got it. Sweetie pie | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen." people call me a cock haha | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen." They call men hen too .... | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen. people call me a cock haha " That would be rude sugarlips | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen. people call me a cock haha " | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen. people call me a cock haha " For a different reason though I suspect ha ha | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen. people call me a cock haha " Not sure that's based on gender though | |||
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"im fucked haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10010017/Calling-women-birds-plainly-sexist-judge-rules.html" what about women that calm other women birds? example, is that your bird? she fine. I heard your bird got a new job. also now how do we expmain about the birds and the bees? Do we now say ok the women and the bees? | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen." Do you mind being called a bird, or hen? | |||
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"Call everyone cunt...problem solved. " Genius! | |||
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"im fucked haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10010017/Calling-women-birds-plainly-sexist-judge-rules.html" This news is published every few years or variants of it. It's just designed to wind people up. | |||
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"It's not sexist I don't think it's more annoying from some people. " It is sexist. It wasn't in the pub. It wasn't a friend. It was her boss , who over the years has referred to women as birds. He says this in the workplace in front of all. It puts women or 'birds' in a subordinate position to men. It likens them to feathered pets. Words form thoughts and therefore his words and actions give the clear , open honest impression that he does not value women as people or workers and nor does he see them as equals or as capable or as worthy of promotion alongside a man. This type of behaviour has detrimental effects on how women in the workplace view themselves and their promotion opportunities. It is so archaic and I for one am constantly surprised at the stupidity of supposedly intelligent employers who imagine that their brand of banter supersedes any laws put in place to protect people. He's sexist. | |||
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"im fucked haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10010017/Calling-women-birds-plainly-sexist-judge-rules.html This news is published every few years or variants of it. It's just designed to wind people up." Yeah. | |||
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"Call everyone cunt...problem solved. Genius!" I have a male friend who calls everyone mate cos he doesn't want to use an offending word.... I get that. Wholeheartedly. I'd rather be his mate than his bird. Or as suggested i'd rather be cunt than 'bird'.... | |||
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"im fucked haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10010017/Calling-women-birds-plainly-sexist-judge-rules.html This news is published every few years or variants of it. It's just designed to wind people up." It seems to mostly wind men up | |||
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"im fucked haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10010017/Calling-women-birds-plainly-sexist-judge-rules.html what about women that calm other women birds? example, is that your bird? she fine. I heard your bird got a new job. also now how do we expmain about the birds and the bees? Do we now say ok the women and the bees?" Jesus .... | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha " ill be blocked by the other half of fab that aint already blocked me now haha | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha ill be blocked by the other half of fab that aint already blocked me now haha" What would we laugh at ? you great big Cuddle Bunny x | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha ill be blocked by the other half of fab that aint already blocked me now haha What would we laugh at ? you great big Cuddle Bunny x " you get it haha half the birds on here blocked me ages ago its true crazy innit they cant see my kev appeal haha | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha ill be blocked by the other half of fab that aint already blocked me now haha What would we laugh at ? you great big Cuddle Bunny x you get it haha half the birds on here blocked me ages ago its true crazy innit they cant see my kev appeal haha " Damn those biatches - Sexy Chunks | |||
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"It's not sexist I don't think it's more annoying from some people. It is sexist. It wasn't in the pub. It wasn't a friend. It was her boss , who over the years has referred to women as birds. He says this in the workplace in front of all. It puts women or 'birds' in a subordinate position to men. It likens them to feathered pets. Words form thoughts and therefore his words and actions give the clear , open honest impression that he does not value women as people or workers and nor does he see them as equals or as capable or as worthy of promotion alongside a man. This type of behaviour has detrimental effects on how women in the workplace view themselves and their promotion opportunities. It is so archaic and I for one am constantly surprised at the stupidity of supposedly intelligent employers who imagine that their brand of banter supersedes any laws put in place to protect people. He's sexist. " I agree. I had a boss years ago who called all the women, wench ffs. One string minded lady put him in his place !!! | |||
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"It's not sexist I don't think it's more annoying from some people. It is sexist. It wasn't in the pub. It wasn't a friend. It was her boss , who over the years has referred to women as birds. He says this in the workplace in front of all. It puts women or 'birds' in a subordinate position to men. It likens them to feathered pets. Words form thoughts and therefore his words and actions give the clear , open honest impression that he does not value women as people or workers and nor does he see them as equals or as capable or as worthy of promotion alongside a man. This type of behaviour has detrimental effects on how women in the workplace view themselves and their promotion opportunities. It is so archaic and I for one am constantly surprised at the stupidity of supposedly intelligent employers who imagine that their brand of banter supersedes any laws put in place to protect people. He's sexist. I agree. I had a boss years ago who called all the women, wench ffs. One string minded lady put him in his place !!!" whats the world coming to if you cant call a bird a wench haha | |||
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"also now how do we expmain about the birds and the bees? Do we now say ok the women and the bees?" I love this What did you think the women were doing with the bees?!... | |||
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"Bit over the top. Calm down love. Just do your job " Sorry did you forget something from the kitchen? | |||
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"Call everyone cunt...problem solved. " | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha " I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible?" what about doll or angel?? | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? " get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel " Do you think it’s ok to reduce women to ‘doll’? I’m curious… | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel Do you think it’s ok to reduce women to ‘doll’? I’m curious…" im just pullin your plonker darlin just havin a bit of fun but someone made a lot of dosh outta guys and dolls the stage show so its already out there innit?? | |||
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"Bit over the top. Calm down love. Just do your job " Calling people Love is swxiat, and racist and eliteist. how dare you, darling! | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel Do you think it’s ok to reduce women to ‘doll’? I’m curious…" is it alright to suggest "Chick"? but then chick comes from bird, which takes up back to.... wait a minute, are you being sexist against yourself? | |||
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"It's not sexist I don't think it's more annoying from some people. It is sexist. It wasn't in the pub. It wasn't a friend. It was her boss , who over the years has referred to women as birds. He says this in the workplace in front of all. It puts women or 'birds' in a subordinate position to men. It likens them to feathered pets. Words form thoughts and therefore his words and actions give the clear , open honest impression that he does not value women as people or workers and nor does he see them as equals or as capable or as worthy of promotion alongside a man. This type of behaviour has detrimental effects on how women in the workplace view themselves and their promotion opportunities. It is so archaic and I for one am constantly surprised at the stupidity of supposedly intelligent employers who imagine that their brand of banter supersedes any laws put in place to protect people. He's sexist. " And very outdated in his thinking | |||
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"I call women birds " Yes but this is specifically about a boss who called His female employee bird if you called your female employee bird that would also be inappropriate it's not about just having a joke with friends. | |||
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"I call women birds Yes but this is specifically about a boss who called His female employee bird if you called your female employee bird that would also be inappropriate it's not about just having a joke with friends. " Yes, I read the article after I posted , I should have done so first as you're completely right | |||
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"I fully understand the verb “to be” is not ideal, the use of the verb (to me) does make the world a beige place. Think a little balance with the use does create a little colour/fun in the world." Sorry the taking out the verb creates a beige world. | |||
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"I call women birds Yes but this is specifically about a boss who called His female employee bird if you called your female employee bird that would also be inappropriate it's not about just having a joke with friends. Yes, I read the article after I posted , I should have done so first as you're completely right " I think like everything there is a time and a place. I my call my female friends chick but I certainly wouldn't do that to someone I work with particularly if we were not friends outside of the workplace. I Do understand people feel they can't say anything these days but I just think it's all about being appropriate and reading the situation. | |||
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"We need to go back to the days of only fools and horses " Do we? | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel Do you think it’s ok to reduce women to ‘doll’? I’m curious… im just pullin your plonker darlin just havin a bit of fun but someone made a lot of dosh outta guys and dolls the stage show so its already out there innit?? " That script was written in 1949/50 about New York in the 1930s. Please god we've progresses somewhat in the last 70 years. Other terms in general use in that era would, quite rightly, get you arrested now. "Having a laugh" is never a valid defence | |||
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" im just pullin your plonker darlin just havin a bit of fun but someone made a lot of dosh outta guys and dolls the stage show so its already out there innit?? That script was written in 1949/50 about New York in the 1930s. Please god we've progresses somewhat in the last 70 years. Other terms in general use in that era would, quite rightly, get you arrested now. "Having a laugh" is never a valid defence " *progressed | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen. Do you mind being called a bird, or hen?" Yes it annoys me. | |||
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"It's not sexist I don't think it's more annoying from some people. It is sexist. It wasn't in the pub. It wasn't a friend. It was her boss , who over the years has referred to women as birds. He says this in the workplace in front of all. It puts women or 'birds' in a subordinate position to men. It likens them to feathered pets. Words form thoughts and therefore his words and actions give the clear , open honest impression that he does not value women as people or workers and nor does he see them as equals or as capable or as worthy of promotion alongside a man. This type of behaviour has detrimental effects on how women in the workplace view themselves and their promotion opportunities. It is so archaic and I for one am constantly surprised at the stupidity of supposedly intelligent employers who imagine that their brand of banter supersedes any laws put in place to protect people. He's sexist. " Exactly this. Mr | |||
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"Have any feathered birds been consulted on this?" No but they have tweeted...... | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel " I work with a lady called 'Angel.' (I want her done, under the trade descriptions act. ) Though, tbf, she has a wicked sense of humour. | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen. Do you mind being called a bird, or hen? Yes it annoys me." Honeybum? | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha ill be blocked by the other half of fab that aint already blocked me now haha What would we laugh at ? you great big Cuddle Bunny x you get it haha half the birds on here blocked me ages ago its true crazy innit they cant see my kev appeal haha " Admin saw your appeal and gave you 12 hours of the best | |||
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"So actually when a man calls you a bird you should take it as the original meaning wealthy, well-born, of good birth. Doughnut " The origin of words and phrases is fascinating, however, time and context changes. Perhaps call your colleagues by their names. The employer should have known better. | |||
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"Some of these words are beautiful: Darling, love angel, sweetheart. Not that I am using them to address women at work or anywhere else. But if a woman addresses a man like this, is inappropriate amd sexist? At work or elsewhere? I have been called love or darling by women I do not know and does not really bother me. And expressions such as ok love? You are an angel, you are a sweetheart are not that uncommon. " The problem is some people believe that because *they* don't mind or even like something everyone else *must* have the same opinion. We are all different, have different life experiences and different expectations. I've not read the story nor do I particularly care to, the fact that a judge (who has access to far more info than the newspapers print) has decided this was sexist is more than enough for me. Sexism, like racism, can often be hard to prove or even demonstrate. For example how do you prove that you're boss doesn't consider you as capable as your colleague simply because of your sex? The language he/she uses may be the only objective action that can be picked to demonstrate months/years of unequal treatment. Articles like this are often used to inflame people who are incapable of thinking past the headline. It doesn't mean that asking your best mate "you ok bird?" is somehow illegal or going to get you fined. What it does mean is that the language we use can affect how we make others feel and invariably reflects our biases. If the bias it reflects is sexist towards a member of our staff we can (rightly) expect to be called out. Mr | |||
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"What about chick " Worked for the Fonze. | |||
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"im fucked haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10010017/Calling-women-birds-plainly-sexist-judge-rules.html what about women that calm other women birds? example, is that your bird? she fine. I heard your bird got a new job. also now how do we expmain about the birds and the bees? Do we now say ok the women and the bees? Jesus .... " Wept Well if anyone’s noticed on media the pregnant are now pregnant people not women so people and the bees! Yet we’re all getting stung. | |||
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"All those saying ' Oh I don't mind' ...... ? So what ? It wasn't a personal poll. I don't jump down the throat of anyone male or female who calls me 'luv, babe, doll, hen , or whatever term they use to pacify or form a public relationship .... but in work ? i'd walk over hot coals to let them know they can't treat me or other women in their employ that way. If you had rights let say over being paid the correct amount and your boss paid you less because she thought she knew best ........ would you say ..... Oh I don't mind ? Bins not emptied ? Oh I don't mind. Kids not taught properly ? Oh I don't mind. No doctors to treat you ? Oh I don't mind ... Shop closes early? Oh I don't mind. Police playing cards n having a drink so too busy to help you ..... Oh I don't mind. It is LAW..... that women are treated with the same respect as men in the workplace and unless your boss calls men employees birds....... you should mind. " Exactly! I often wonder if the reason people put things like "Oh i don't mind" is it because they don't want to be seen as a problem. | |||
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"What about chick Worked for the Fonze." But he had that hair | |||
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"What about chick Worked for the Fonze." Yes in the 50's | |||
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"Some of these words are beautiful: Darling, love angel, sweetheart. Not that I am using them to address women at work or anywhere else. But if a woman addresses a man like this, is inappropriate amd sexist? At work or elsewhere? I have been called love or darling by women I do not know and does not really bother me. And expressions such as ok love? You are an angel, you are a sweetheart are not that uncommon. " I think it depends on the situation for me, at work maybe not as it isn't really professional. It doesn't bother me if someone in the street said it. Coming to price a job at a house where the woman answers the door and when starting to explain what they want gets asked, "Ok sweeheart, is your husband there?" is definitely not good | |||
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"Some of these words are beautiful: Darling, love angel, sweetheart. Not that I am using them to address women at work or anywhere else. But if a woman addresses a man like this, is inappropriate amd sexist? At work or elsewhere? I have been called love or darling by women I do not know and does not really bother me. And expressions such as ok love? You are an angel, you are a sweetheart are not that uncommon. I think it depends on the situation for me, at work maybe not as it isn't really professional. It doesn't bother me if someone in the street said it. Coming to price a job at a house where the woman answers the door and when starting to explain what they want gets asked, "Ok sweeheart, is your husband there?" is definitely not good " Perhaps they are just checking if the coast is clear. Ya know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink. | |||
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"Stop getting your knickers in a twist..worse things in life than that." What then your employer feels they can try and degrade you by calling you a bird even after a you have asked them to stop? | |||
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"Is it sexist to call everyone a cunt? Why not....cuntcock? " Cuntybaws is a favourite of an old friend of mine. Bawbag (Ballbag) is the male equivalent of cunt round here. | |||
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"In Scotland they call a woman a hen." It drives me crazy when someone calls me that, i'd rather be sworn at lol x | |||
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"Stop getting your knickers in a twist..worse things in life than that. What then your employer feels they can try and degrade you by calling you a bird even after a you have asked them to stop? " Absolutely..lost both my parents within weeks of each other..puts things into sharp focus. | |||
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"Stop getting your knickers in a twist..worse things in life than that. What then your employer feels they can try and degrade you by calling you a bird even after a you have asked them to stop? Absolutely..lost both my parents within weeks of each other..puts things into sharp focus." I'm sorry for your loss but just because worse things happen doesn't mean this kind of behaviour is acceptable does it! | |||
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"I'm genuinely shocked by some of the attitudes particularly from men on this post, it's not funny. " Chill out love | |||
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"I'm genuinely shocked by some of the attitudes particularly from men on this post, it's not funny. Chill out love " misogynistic much! | |||
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"if birds aint allowed what do we use totty blart skirt haha I suppose just calling us women would be impossible? what about doll or angel?? get us a cuppa tea will ya doll and get your laughing gear around this theres a angel Do you think it’s ok to reduce women to ‘doll’? I’m curious… im just pullin your plonker darlin just havin a bit of fun but someone made a lot of dosh outta guys and dolls the stage show so its already out there innit?? That script was written in 1949/50 about New York in the 1930s. Please god we've progresses somewhat in the last 70 years. Other terms in general use in that era would, quite rightly, get you arrested now. "Having a laugh" is never a valid defence " yea fair point ok a more recent example i was in hamburg a few years ago and visited a classy establishment called the dollhouse the birds there didnt mind being called dolls while they grinded there naked pussys in my face haha there you go case closed no further evidence my lord haha | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. " That is atrocious that you now can't get a laugh out of trying to get to belittle women in the workplace whatever next women wanting equal pay Hey! | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. " Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do?" Good to see you back by the way. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do?" Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. " Then the simple answer is refer to everybody in the work place in a professional manner rather than you would a mate down the pub. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. " That’s a strange conclusion, because there are chats going on all over the place without people getting the sack for being sexist. | |||
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"Indeed I might also add the fact the male apprentice was stripped in the warehouse by 8 women on this 18th birthday and it was classed as “ light hearted fun” by management. Go figure. " Thats not acceptable either and sounds like a very unsafe working environment! | |||
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"Indeed I might also add the fact the male apprentice was stripped in the warehouse by 8 women on this 18th birthday and it was classed as “ light hearted fun” by management. Go figure. " That sounds wrong too, do you think two wrongs make a right? | |||
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"Indeed I might also add the fact the male apprentice was stripped in the warehouse by 8 women on this 18th birthday and it was classed as “ light hearted fun” by management. Go figure. " did he report it ? | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. That’s a strange conclusion, because there are chats going on all over the place without people getting the sack for being sexist. " Depends where you work and the type of people you work with. Not everywhere is the same. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. That’s a strange conclusion, because there are chats going on all over the place without people getting the sack for being sexist. Depends where you work and the type of people you work with. Not everywhere is the same. " Every single person should behave in an appropriate way in the work place with no exception. | |||
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"Indeed I might also add the fact the male apprentice was stripped in the warehouse by 8 women on this 18th birthday and it was classed as “ light hearted fun” by management. Go figure. That sounds wrong too, do you think two wrongs make a right?" The rules favoured the women. That’s all I’m saying. | |||
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"It's such a shame that people take offense. A lot of it is banter, especially here up North. Some people can find offence in anything these days. Personally it takes a hell of a lot for me to be offended, life is too short to be offended by this that and the other. " I'm assuming you didn't read the link because this wasn't just banter, this was her boss constantly demeaning her! | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. " i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. " Couldn’t agree more. We do the same thing on site. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. Couldn’t agree more. We do the same thing on site." Oi | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work " Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. Couldn’t agree more. We do the same thing on site. Oi" Sh | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. Couldn’t agree more. We do the same thing on site. Oi Sh" | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. " Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. " Me too, I’ve worked in factories from my first job in the 1990s to right now. Sorry if that doesn’t fit with your story though | |||
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"It's such a shame that people take offense. A lot of it is banter, especially here up North. Some people can find offence in anything these days. Personally it takes a hell of a lot for me to be offended, life is too short to be offended by this that and the other. I'm assuming you didn't read the link because this wasn't just banter, this was her boss constantly demeaning her!" No I didn't read the link, but I have worked in a job where if I'd been called a bird or similar I would of taken that as a compliment compared to the many other names I was called on a daily basis by my boss and colleagues. In my own opinion, it's often to do with the context in which things are said rather than what is said. | |||
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"It's such a shame that people take offense. A lot of it is banter, especially here up North. Some people can find offence in anything these days. Personally it takes a hell of a lot for me to be offended, life is too short to be offended by this that and the other. I'm assuming you didn't read the link because this wasn't just banter, this was her boss constantly demeaning her! No I didn't read the link, but I have worked in a job where if I'd been called a bird or similar I would of taken that as a compliment compared to the many other names I was called on a daily basis by my boss and colleagues. In my own opinion, it's often to do with the context in which things are said rather than what is said. " The very fact you are saying if means you never Work somewhere where you had to put up with that kind of behaviour and why should you have to put up with it why should I the of us. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. " I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. | |||
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"It's such a shame that people take offense. A lot of it is banter, especially here up North. Some people can find offence in anything these days. Personally it takes a hell of a lot for me to be offended, life is too short to be offended by this that and the other. I'm assuming you didn't read the link because this wasn't just banter, this was her boss constantly demeaning her! No I didn't read the link, but I have worked in a job where if I'd been called a bird or similar I would of taken that as a compliment compared to the many other names I was called on a daily basis by my boss and colleagues. In my own opinion, it's often to do with the context in which things are said rather than what is said. The very fact you are saying if means you never Work somewhere where you had to put up with that kind of behaviour and why should you have to put up with it why should I the of us. " Apologies if I'm being thick, but I don't quite understand what you mean there. I was just explaining my opinion from my own personal experiences | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. " You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. " What makes me wrong? | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. What makes me wrong? " You said you doubt id ever worked in a factory and you are wrong! | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. " So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. What makes me wrong? You said you doubt id ever worked in a factory and you are wrong!" Crushed | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? " I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. | |||
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"I'm genuinely shocked by some of the attitudes particularly from men on this post, it's not funny. I think they are just joking Lorna" Some are but some definitely aren't. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? " Oh crikey, there's a depressing thought. Banter and humour makes the work day much better. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. " Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun | |||
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"I'm genuinely shocked by some of the attitudes particularly from men on this post, it's not funny. I think they are just joking Lorna" can only speak for me and take most of my posts tonge in cheek haha i agree dont make anyone feel bad or upset them in real life my posts on this thread have been a bit jokey sorry if anyone dont get my sense of humor | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun " But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. " Blimey, it sounds like the late 70's and 80's Do the women take it as "banter" if the men ask the same questions? | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. " My colleague called her love once. There was no intention to ridicule and there was no further communication. As I have said when some people are offended by anything the best way is no communication for fear of retribution and subsequent job loss. Is calling someone “ love” really bullying. I agree constant sexual banter to someone who does not like it IS a form of bullying and offensive and deserves discipline but in my experience grown adults tend to have enough common sense to know when they have said the wrong thing to the wrong person. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. Blimey, it sounds like the late 70's and 80's Do the women take it as "banter" if the men ask the same questions?" In my experience women tended to start it, for obvious reasons. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. My colleague called her love once. There was no intention to ridicule and there was no further communication. As I have said when some people are offended by anything the best way is no communication for fear of retribution and subsequent job loss. Is calling someone “ love” really bullying. I agree constant sexual banter to someone who does not like it IS a form of bullying and offensive and deserves discipline but in my experience grown adults tend to have enough common sense to know when they have said the wrong thing to the wrong person. " But some of the examples that you have given and the way this woman was treated by the rest of the work force for saying she didn't like it suggested that isn't the case. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. " But what about if everyone’s enjoying it, except one moody mare that’s not even in the convo, but she reports it anyways? Ruins everyone else’s fun | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. My colleague called her love once. There was no intention to ridicule and there was no further communication. As I have said when some people are offended by anything the best way is no communication for fear of retribution and subsequent job loss. Is calling someone “ love” really bullying. I agree constant sexual banter to someone who does not like it IS a form of bullying and offensive and deserves discipline but in my experience grown adults tend to have enough common sense to know when they have said the wrong thing to the wrong person. " That’s not the whole story, is it? He may have called her ‘love’ once but there was a whole lot of inappropriate language going on all around her. You said so, and that it started up again after she left. So maybe if there was a general atmosphere of respect, the occasional ‘love’ wouldn’t matter | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. But what about if everyone’s enjoying it, except one moody mare that’s not even in the convo, but she reports it anyways? Ruins everyone else’s fun " Yeah, call em a moody mare! That'll lern um! | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. My colleague called her love once. There was no intention to ridicule and there was no further communication. As I have said when some people are offended by anything the best way is no communication for fear of retribution and subsequent job loss. Is calling someone “ love” really bullying. I agree constant sexual banter to someone who does not like it IS a form of bullying and offensive and deserves discipline but in my experience grown adults tend to have enough common sense to know when they have said the wrong thing to the wrong person. " By the sounds of it, there is more than someone getting called "love" that gets said. Are you sure she wasn't objecting to the "banter" that the women do to the engineer? | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. But what about if everyone’s enjoying it, except one moody mare that’s not even in the convo, but she reports it anyways? Ruins everyone else’s fun Yeah, call em a moody mare! That'll lern um! " Stop ruining others fun and maybe they wouldn’t get called it | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. But what about if everyone’s enjoying it, except one moody mare that’s not even in the convo, but she reports it anyways? Ruins everyone else’s fun Yeah, call em a moody mare! That'll lern um! Stop ruining others fun and maybe they wouldn’t get called it " Stop saying inappropriate things in the work place and you might not get reported. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. My colleague called her love once. There was no intention to ridicule and there was no further communication. As I have said when some people are offended by anything the best way is no communication for fear of retribution and subsequent job loss. Is calling someone “ love” really bullying. I agree constant sexual banter to someone who does not like it IS a form of bullying and offensive and deserves discipline but in my experience grown adults tend to have enough common sense to know when they have said the wrong thing to the wrong person. By the sounds of it, there is more than someone getting called "love" that gets said. Are you sure she wasn't objecting to the "banter" that the women do to the engineer?" No. Anyway I have to go, I have a few scripts for the Viz comic to write tonight xx. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. But what about if everyone’s enjoying it, except one moody mare that’s not even in the convo, but she reports it anyways? Ruins everyone else’s fun Yeah, call em a moody mare! That'll lern um! Stop ruining others fun and maybe they wouldn’t get called it " Still inappropriate in the workplace Try moodhoover- it gender neutral. | |||
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" By the sounds of it, there is more than someone getting called "love" that gets said. Are you sure she wasn't objecting to the "banter" that the women do to the engineer? No. Anyway I have to go, I have a few scripts for the Viz comic to write tonight xx. " I am sure there must be something in that sentence that I am meant to get but I didn't sorry I find that hard to believe after what you says gets said in your workplace that she would object to the word "love" and not anything else. Maybe you didn't get told the whole story of when she went to complain | |||
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"I have to say following on from the factory workplace comments. My husband is an engineer and worked in different factories and some of the things females say and do to him shocks me. It's stuff I have never ever seen in an office environment. " I have to agree Monday morning phone calls of norty nora the supervisor were gems, my flange is wet and leaking on number 3, and the knob has fell off one of the tits, and you have a bent shaft on the knobler and how's it hanging. | |||
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"I worked in a factory when one of our engineers called a woman line worker “love” once. She had him in the office for sexism. He was nearly sacked. Solution? The us engineers stopped all conversation with the women, all the centuries old banter, flirting and fun stopped. It became a draconian place to work. Miserable to say the least. In the end little miss snowflake was sent to Coventry by her female workers. She left and the cheery happy ways returned. Does the solution of stopping all conversation sound like a sensible answer? Or does it sound like petulant sulking like a small child would do? Nope. It stops you getting the sack from saying the wrong thing to anyone who chooses to be offended by anything you may say. i get it mate some workplaces have a buzz n banter bit more industrial shall we say the birds in my place give as good as they get trust me haha when someone comes in that dont fit and demands it all stops it fucks everyone up not everyone understands partic in offices but the birds are as bad as the blokes like with you the buzz returned when she went cos the birds missed it as much as the blokes its how lots of industrial workplaces work Clearly someone else who has worked on the shop floor in the real world. Seriously the real world! where women can be called whatever and just have to shut up. I dont consider that the real world and Thankfully women are starting to learn they dont have to put up with this crap in the workplace anymore. I doubt you have worked in a factory. So as a previous poster has said women are as bad as the men. Here’s an example of a Monday morning scenario. Engineer walks into a broken down line. 30 women on the line. Engineer gets his tools out and starts a repair on a machine. Conversation goes “ hey ( to the engineer ) what were you up to at the weekend? “ other “ lady” were you shagging? Other “ lady” did you give it her up the arse? Other “lady” says or where you fucking ya brother instead? I kid you not. It’s the real real real world in some factories across the uk. Let’s not say banter is right or wrong, but it happens, and there is no denying it happens. You are very wrong! And nobody said it doesn't happen but it is very wrong but it does happen and it needs to change. So you would stop all the banter between both sexes across all the work places across the uk? I would stop any sexist language in the workplace. It's not banter if the other person doesn't like it. Your colleague clearly didn't like it yet you and your workmates felt the need to ridicule her and refuse to talk to her and that is disgusting. Its only banter if all parties are enjoying it, if not it is called bullying. Except that in the work place you can report someone for over hearing something you don’t like So one moody mare can ruin everyone’s fun But it's not fun if it's someone else's expense and they are not enjoying it. But what about if everyone’s enjoying it, except one moody mare that’s not even in the convo, but she reports it anyways? Ruins everyone else’s fun Yeah, call em a moody mare! That'll lern um! Stop ruining others fun and maybe they wouldn’t get called it Still inappropriate in the workplace Try moodhoover- it gender neutral." Moodhoover, that's only the 2nd time I've seen that word used. I must remember it as it's rather funny | |||
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"I have to say following on from the factory workplace comments. My husband is an engineer and worked in different factories and some of the things females say and do to him shocks me. It's stuff I have never ever seen in an office environment. I have to agree Monday morning phone calls of norty nora the supervisor were gems, my flange is wet and leaking on number 3, and the knob has fell off one of the tits, and you have a bent shaft on the knobler and how's it hanging. " Nora the explorer, where are you, they are talking about you, don't get offended! | |||
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"I have to say following on from the factory workplace comments. My husband is an engineer and worked in different factories and some of the things females say and do to him shocks me. It's stuff I have never ever seen in an office environment. " haha the women are worse most of the time honest the languge would make a vicar blush haha true it aint everyones taste as this thread has made clear haha but the banter can be hilarius and can make it a great place to work but yea dont go picking people out that dont like it know your worker mates and there limits | |||
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"I have to say following on from the factory workplace comments. My husband is an engineer and worked in different factories and some of the things females say and do to him shocks me. It's stuff I have never ever seen in an office environment. haha the women are worse most of the time honest the languge would make a vicar blush haha true it aint everyones taste as this thread has made clear haha but the banter can be hilarius and can make it a great place to work but yea dont go picking people out that dont like it know your worker mates and there limits " And that is the line. People seem to think that if they find it funny everybody else should and isn't always the case. | |||
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"Ladies/gentlemen - formal Women/men - neutral Birds/blokes - informal I use all 6 of these terms depending on the circumstances. In the workplace as is the case here, I wouldn't dare call a woman a bird nor a man a bloke. They are very informal terms and certainly not professional. However, I don't see the harm in using any of them. They just have appropriate or rather, inappropriate uses... Does this make me sexist then for using them? " Absolutely not. Like you said it's all about the setting and the context and also about the relationship. I call my female friends chick but only the ones I know like it and I certainly wouldnt call a female colleague that. | |||
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"Ladies/gentlemen - formal Women/men - neutral Birds/blokes - informal I use all 6 of these terms depending on the circumstances. In the workplace as is the case here, I wouldn't dare call a woman a bird nor a man a bloke. They are very informal terms and certainly not professional. However, I don't see the harm in using any of them. They just have appropriate or rather, inappropriate uses... Does this make me sexist then for using them? " Nope. The above means you know how to behave appropriately in the workplace. I can call my friends all sorts (and they call me all sorts) but that's because we are interacting on a totally different level to the workplace. I work with my husband and a friend of mine has recently started working in my department. I speak to Mr KC VERY differently at home than at work | |||
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