Watched the film again last night and even though its only a film i am guessing the borstal system was pretty hard and ruthless
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"Its not being a 'do gooder' to think that abuse and violence begets....abuse and violence."
not so sure re the violence bit, the birch seemed to work on the isle of man and if someone for example has robbed and beaten up an old lady for her purse leaving her battered then i for one believe in an eye for an eye as the soft touch doesnt seem to be working
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"each to their own but you do reap what you sow is all im saying"
we will agree to disagree and regards the reap what you sow i agree and surely treating them softly has meant we are now seeing the situation we are in ?
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"Its not being a 'do gooder' to think that abuse and violence begets....abuse and violence. not so sure re the violence bit, the birch seemed to work on the isle of man and if someone for example has robbed and beaten up an old lady for her purse leaving her battered then i for one believe in an eye for an eye as the soft touch doesnt seem to be working"
how can you justify beating someone up for beating someone up? the law is in place for a reson, if you kill everyone that kills, beat everyone that beats, rape everyone that rapes we may as well just get rid of the justice system and leave everyone to get on with it
If a child swears you dont tell it to stop fucking swearing do you? because its just a contradiction
There are better way to educate people, in this case children, than using violance if its against the law to beat someone then that should apply everyone including those who work for the law |
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"Reintroduce National Service instead.
totally agree, 100% "
Totally agree with that , i stay in a place that was named the stab captial of britian at one point now its guns, i think if it was brought back for young tear aways then they will get training and make something of themselves x |
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you are concentrating on the violent scenes put in to shock people from the film rather than the real borstal system.
watched a documentary and several adults said that it prevented them from going to adult prison and turned there lifes around
just interested in what is the better way to educate the feral youths that you mention ? they think they are above the law and can take what they want without working hard and earning a better life ? |
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"you are concentrating on the violent scenes put in to shock people from the film rather than the real borstal system.
watched a documentary and several adults said that it prevented them from going to adult prison and turned there lifes around
just interested in what is the better way to educate the feral youths that you mention ? they think they are above the law and can take what they want without working hard and earning a better life ?"
How about training them and making sure there is work for them for starters |
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most kids will do stuff as a child thats they wouldnt do as an adult, ok some will but a lot of kids will go joy riding and shop lifting/robbing to fit in with their so called mates, being a little twat at 15 does not always mean you will turn out to be an adult thug |
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"you are concentrating on the violent scenes put in to shock people from the film rather than the real borstal system.
watched a documentary and several adults said that it prevented them from going to adult prison and turned there lifes around
just interested in what is the better way to educate the feral youths that you mention ? they think they are above the law and can take what they want without working hard and earning a better life ?
How about training them and making sure there is work for them for starters"
so if theres no job its ok to rob and mug, when i was made redundant last year maybe thats what i should have done rather than take a factory job which i hated untill i could get something better and i refused to sign on as i couldnt stand the humiliation of going to the job centre and being treated the same as some feral layabout who thinks the country owes them a living.. |
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"most kids will do stuff as a child thats they wouldnt do as an adult, ok some will but a lot of kids will go joy riding and shop lifting/robbing to fit in with their so called mates, being a little twat at 15 does not always mean you will turn out to be an adult thug"
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have you ever had your house broken into and all of your personal items smashed and valuables stolen that you worked dam hard to buy or had your car stolen you make it sound like its a bit of lighthearted fun ? |
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"you are concentrating on the violent scenes put in to shock people from the film rather than the real borstal system.
watched a documentary and several adults said that it prevented them from going to adult prison and turned there lifes around
just interested in what is the better way to educate the feral youths that you mention ? they think they are above the law and can take what they want without working hard and earning a better life ?
How about training them and making sure there is work for them for starters so if theres no job its ok to rob and mug, when i was made redundant last year maybe thats what i should have done rather than take a factory job which i hated untill i could get something better and i refused to sign on as i couldnt stand the humiliation of going to the job centre and being treated the same as some feral layabout who thinks the country owes them a living.."
No it's about giving them a future, making them feel part of society - branding a whole generation as feral is wrong. Most youngster are good and are trying to achieve things but it often looks as if society is prepared to throw them on the scrapheap |
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"you are concentrating on the violent scenes put in to shock people from the film rather than the real borstal system.
watched a documentary and several adults said that it prevented them from going to adult prison and turned there lifes around
just interested in what is the better way to educate the feral youths that you mention ? they think they are above the law and can take what they want without working hard and earning a better life ?
How about training them and making sure there is work for them for starters so if theres no job its ok to rob and mug, when i was made redundant last year maybe thats what i should have done rather than take a factory job which i hated untill i could get something better and i refused to sign on as i couldnt stand the humiliation of going to the job centre and being treated the same as some feral layabout who thinks the country owes them a living..
No it's about giving them a future, making them feel part of society - branding a whole generation as feral is wrong. Most youngster are good and are trying to achieve things but it often looks as if society is prepared to throw them on the scrapheap"
can you say where i said a whole generation is feral as thats not what i said at all i was talking about those that are on the other side of the law..i know plenty of good kids who try to do things the right way and fair play to them |
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