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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Reports that Crazy scientists tried introducing rare butterflies onto an island off Finland. They released lots of caterpillars hoping to introduce the butterflies. What happened next should be a lesson to these bat crazy science types. Inside some of the caterpillars were parasitic wasps and inside the wasps were another parasitic species which kill the caterpillars. Well the scientists fucked up that island... Idiot do gooders..
And it sounds unbelievable but it really is all over the news |
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I read about this. It happened 30 years ago and all of the species, including the bacteria that live in the parasitic wasp that is inside the parasitic wasp that is inside the caterpillar, are alive and thriving today.
Doesn’t sound too crazy to me. Unintended side effect maybe, but all of the species are thriving and it doesn’t appear to have had an impact elsewhere.
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The reintroduction happened 30 years ago and the butterflies still survive on the island.
In fact it's become a popular stop off for holiday ship. It's all over the Cruise. |
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I'm not sure that was scientists doing it. Environmentalists maybe, but it doesn't sound like a scientific experiment.
It's very rarely a good idea to introduce species to an environment that has never had them before. There are lots of examples of that going horribly wrong. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The reintroduction happened 30 years ago and the butterflies still survive on the island.
In fact it's become a popular stop off for holiday ship.
It's all over the Cruise."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reports that Crazy scientists tried introducing rare butterflies onto an island off Finland. They released lots of caterpillars hoping to introduce the butterflies. What happened next should be a lesson to these bat crazy science types. Inside some of the caterpillars were parasitic wasps and inside the wasps were another parasitic species which kill the caterpillars. Well the scientists fucked up that island... Idiot do gooders..
And it sounds unbelievable but it really is all over the news "
interesting story, thanks for bringing to my attention.
But I think you have missed the fact they have all thrived. And I can't see anything about mass extinctions. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Reports that Crazy scientists tried introducing rare butterflies onto an island off Finland. They released lots of caterpillars hoping to introduce the butterflies. What happened next should be a lesson to these bat crazy science types. Inside some of the caterpillars were parasitic wasps and inside the wasps were another parasitic species which kill the caterpillars. Well the scientists fucked up that island... Idiot do gooders..
And it sounds unbelievable but it really is all over the news interesting story, thanks for bringing to my attention.
But I think you have missed the fact they have all thrived. And I can't see anything about mass extinctions. "
And there lies the problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reports that Crazy scientists tried introducing rare butterflies onto an island off Finland. They released lots of caterpillars hoping to introduce the butterflies. What happened next should be a lesson to these bat crazy science types. Inside some of the caterpillars were parasitic wasps and inside the wasps were another parasitic species which kill the caterpillars. Well the scientists fucked up that island... Idiot do gooders..
And it sounds unbelievable but it really is all over the news interesting story, thanks for bringing to my attention.
But I think you have missed the fact they have all thrived. And I can't see anything about mass extinctions.
And there lies the problem "
that there wasn't any? Or it wasn't reported ?
What's you big concern about all this ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So. Inside the caterpillars were wasps, and inside the wasps were another parasite species.
Did anyone think that the scientists may just have been playing real life Russian fucking Dolls..?!  |
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I hope they'd considered whether the island has an appropriate diet available for the caterpillars.
Cherry pie
Swiss cheese
Cupcakes
Pickles
Lollipops
Sausages
We all know that caterpillars can be very hungry
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I read that article. The scientists weren't mad, they were sloppy!
Not sloppy.. negligent.."
Negligence is a legal issue that would result from their sloppiness, but I basically agree with you. One follows on from the other. |
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"Started with Dolly the sheep … poor thing didn’t live very long "
Dolly was euthanased due to progressive lung disease which wasn't linked to the cloning process.
However, despite Dolly being a newborn lamb, she was, on a cellular level, already as old as the sheep she was cloned from. She was cloned from a somatic cell taken from a young adult sheep.
We are now able to manipulate stem cells and edit DNA, which (if cloning is to be used in animals) would negate the issues of somatic cell cloning and cellular age. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"Started with Dolly the sheep … poor thing didn’t live very long
Dolly was euthanased due to progressive lung disease which wasn't linked to the cloning process.
However, despite Dolly being a newborn lamb, she was, on a cellular level, already as old as the sheep she was cloned from. She was cloned from a somatic cell taken from a young adult sheep.
We are now able to manipulate stem cells and edit DNA, which (if cloning is to be used in animals) would negate the issues of somatic cell cloning and cellular age. "
We ?
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"Started with Dolly the sheep … poor thing didn’t live very long
Dolly was euthanased due to progressive lung disease which wasn't linked to the cloning process.
However, despite Dolly being a newborn lamb, she was, on a cellular level, already as old as the sheep she was cloned from. She was cloned from a somatic cell taken from a young adult sheep.
We are now able to manipulate stem cells and edit DNA, which (if cloning is to be used in animals) would negate the issues of somatic cell cloning and cellular age.
We ?
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We. Humans. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Started with Dolly the sheep … poor thing didn’t live very long
Dolly was euthanased due to progressive lung disease which wasn't linked to the cloning process.
However, despite Dolly being a newborn lamb, she was, on a cellular level, already as old as the sheep she was cloned from. She was cloned from a somatic cell taken from a young adult sheep.
We are now able to manipulate stem cells and edit DNA, which (if cloning is to be used in animals) would negate the issues of somatic cell cloning and cellular age.
We ?
We. Humans. "
Glad it's not we, the scientists ....
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"Started with Dolly the sheep … poor thing didn’t live very long
Dolly was euthanased due to progressive lung disease which wasn't linked to the cloning process.
However, despite Dolly being a newborn lamb, she was, on a cellular level, already as old as the sheep she was cloned from. She was cloned from a somatic cell taken from a young adult sheep.
We are now able to manipulate stem cells and edit DNA, which (if cloning is to be used in animals) would negate the issues of somatic cell cloning and cellular age. "
progressive lung disease and that had nothing to do with the fact she was man made ? Of all the sheep they couldn’t see this type of cell growth in the DNA of the original host ..
She still didn’t live very long and it was wrong to try |
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"Started with Dolly the sheep … poor thing didn’t live very long
Dolly was euthanased due to progressive lung disease which wasn't linked to the cloning process.
However, despite Dolly being a newborn lamb, she was, on a cellular level, already as old as the sheep she was cloned from. She was cloned from a somatic cell taken from a young adult sheep.
We are now able to manipulate stem cells and edit DNA, which (if cloning is to be used in animals) would negate the issues of somatic cell cloning and cellular age.
progressive lung disease and that had nothing to do with the fact she was man made ? Of all the sheep they couldn’t see this type of cell growth in the DNA of the original host ..
She still didn’t live very long and it was wrong to try "
She was cloned from an udder cell, nothing to do with lungs. If the cell used did possess any genetic mutations that might pre-dispose to lung disease, this could not have been picked up at the time the cloning took place (1995/6) as the ability to sequence genomes and understand the role of specific genes and their loci was not there at the time. |
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