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"Guilty. And the tip of the iceberg." Agrees. A family of wrong uns | |||
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"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?" not sure I think he was in Pizza Hut | |||
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"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?" This was played out all ready in a thread ! Still hilarious to talk about ! Anyone that looks at that interview and seen them pics and still thinks he hasn’t anything to hide ! Well then you just can’t reason with dumb | |||
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"I'm not hear to judge" That’s literally all I’m here to do And he’s a model for it | |||
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"I've no idea. I'm not sure why anybody else thinks they do " Great answer. It restored my faith in the human race. | |||
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"I'm not hear to judge That’s literally all I’m here to do And he’s a model for it " A top model? | |||
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"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?" I would be astonished if anything transpires from the served legal documents; he is arrogant, entitled and pompous, but he deserves fair trial; not trial by public opinion. His former life is now over after the Emily interview. Royal haters will enjoy schadenfreude. | |||
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"I'm not hear to judge That’s literally all I’m here to do And he’s a model for it A top model?" Na but definitely in The top 3 ! | |||
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"The Banned Old Duke of York !!!" Banned from school yards indefinitely!!!! | |||
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"The Banned Old Duke of York !!! Banned from school yards indefinitely!!!! " Behave you | |||
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"The Banned Old Duke of York !!! Banned from school yards indefinitely!!!! Behave you " Cmon Yasmeen ? If anyone deserves some stick it’s that clown ! He won’t see he’s not on fab Isn’t his age bracket Ok I’m done now | |||
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"He was used to make Epsteins shennagins look authentic so others could be b-mailed. Honey trapping dignitaries and celebs. Wether he was fully aware remains to be seen. I think he'll be found innocent. That pic looks fake. I feel sorry for the victims. " So they needed that twat to make Epstein look guilty ? Think they had that boxed off without coming after this sad act And theyvNeed to get him to court before he can be found innocent and that’s seriously unlikely | |||
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"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk " Maybe this case blows up the extradition treaty ? Silver lining if it does. | |||
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"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk Maybe this case blows up the extradition treaty ? Silver lining if it does." There's no doubt the current extradition treaty with the US sucks - it should be completely reciprocal, which it very much isn't. | |||
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"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk " | |||
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"It's all about the big payout " So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? | |||
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"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it." Oh that's ok then. | |||
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"Innocent until prooven guilty, and those jumping the gun, I bet yous wouldn't like to be accused of the same ???" No your right ! But if I was innocent and nothing to hide I’d come out and prove it ! Oh hang on he tried that didn’t he ? | |||
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"Innocent until prooven guilty, and those jumping the gun, I bet yous wouldn't like to be accused of the same ???" Tricky proving innocence or guilt when you run away. | |||
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"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ? I would be astonished if anything transpires from the served legal documents; he is arrogant, entitled and pompous, but he deserves fair trial; not trial by public opinion. His former life is now over after the Emily interview. Royal haters will enjoy schadenfreude. " Labelling anyone who isn’t a fan of Andrew as a royal “hater” is a bit of a cop-out. I’m sure there are plenty of people who are supporters of the royal family in general but don’t think much of Andrew after decades of bad press. | |||
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"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ? I would be astonished if anything transpires from the served legal documents; he is arrogant, entitled and pompous, but he deserves fair trial; not trial by public opinion. His former life is now over after the Emily interview. Royal haters will enjoy schadenfreude. Labelling anyone who isn’t a fan of Andrew as a royal “hater” is a bit of a cop-out. I’m sure there are plenty of people who are supporters of the royal family in general but don’t think much of Andrew after decades of bad press. " Most people outside the UK probably had no clue who he was until this all kicked off ! But that interview is golden ! Talk about the definition of digging your hole deeper ! | |||
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"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it." Spot on | |||
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"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it." Why are you referring to her as a prostitute? | |||
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"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it. Why are you referring to her as a prostitute? " I agree. He was in a position of power and exploted this person. | |||
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"I believe he’s guilty but will never be held accountable, they will find a way to get him out of it" Yeah keep him hidden in a garden bush in Buckingham palace | |||
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"I believe he’s guilty but will never be held accountable, they will find a way to get him out of it Yeah keep him hidden in a garden bush in Buckingham palace " | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that " Yep Think you did !!! Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that Yep Think you did !!! Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke " Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that Yep Think you did !!! Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome " And operating that JCB digger for that large hole you seem so intent on digging ! Keep it up its giving me a laugh anyway | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that Yep Think you did !!! Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome And operating that JCB digger for that large hole you seem so intent on digging ! Keep it up its giving me a laugh anyway " It’s a talent you know, not everyone has it | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that Yep Think you did !!! Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome And operating that JCB digger for that large hole you seem so intent on digging ! Keep it up its giving me a laugh anyway It’s a talent you know, not everyone has it " No they might have it they just don’t have the balls to do it | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that " Yep.... A tunnel and Paris spring to mind . . | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that Yep.... A tunnel and Paris spring to mind . ." We got another trouble maker | |||
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"The royals can get away with murder Oooppps did I just say that Yep.... A tunnel and Paris spring to mind . ." We’ll be on the naughty step | |||
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"With so much inequality in the world and so much bad shit happening it makes me sad. But then I think, hey they might actually bring a member of the royal family to justice for being a sex pest and that makes me happy again." It’s the little things in life mate | |||
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"PS serious allegations should be kept away from the thread, we can only talk about what is being reported" Fair enough ! I don’t need another ban over that lad | |||
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"I've no idea. I'm not sure why anybody else thinks they do " | |||
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"100 percent guilty. Only real reason we never ever see him is because someone will take a photo of him sweating . Biggest load of bullshit ever that" I should probably retract this as it may fall foul of admin. Admin I’m trying to delete I don’t know how | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?" If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation " Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid | |||
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"As far as I know only a personal view I thought the law in uk was innocent till proven guilty " This | |||
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"As far as I know only a personal view I thought the law in uk was innocent till proven guilty This " 'Fab Justice' is about as reliable as 'Fab Straight' | |||
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"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point). Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on. *** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. *** As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here. But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account? Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10. " *** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing. | |||
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"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point). Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on. *** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. *** As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here. But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account? Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10. *** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing." 100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it" | |||
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"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point). Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on. *** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. *** As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here. But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account? Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10. *** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing. 100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it" " and she's only a 17 year old prostitute! | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid " Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc | |||
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"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?" Guilty no question. It will all be swept under the carpet though you watch | |||
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"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????" Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left? | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc " Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ?? | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??" She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed | |||
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"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ???? Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?" What’s he going to do ? hit her in the head with a polo stick | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ?? She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed" And now she’s looking for another top-up And let’s face it if there was no money to be made her and the lawyers would all fade into the distance | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ?? She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed" Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice ! I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep ! But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !? You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ?? She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice ! I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep ! But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !? You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from " It didn't get to court. The young girls were paid off to keep quiet well before he was arrested and then died in prison. | |||
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"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ???? Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left? What’s he going to do ? hit her in the head with a polo stick " Powerful man with a lot of contacts....nothing now if we are talking present tense!... I don't underestimate these young ladies and what could of been said to make them stay! If she was under 16 it would be a whole different talking point I'm sure! They're still victims at the hands of that awful man and his female friend..... Let's see what happens to that one in court..... | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ?? She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice ! I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep ! But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !? You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from It didn't get to court. The young girls were paid off to keep quiet well before he was arrested and then died in prison. " Really ??? So how did they convict him if none of them testified?? | |||
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"PS Andrew is trying to use the pay off as a get out clause as he thinks he was mentioned in it " haha so you jumped on board pretty sure I remember you trying to rain this thread in earlier ? It’s just an interesting topic right | |||
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"It's all about the big payout So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!? If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime But why not get paid Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway ) I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc Guilty or not ! He ain’t going to prison ! I like your point tho you obviously have morals but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ?? She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice ! I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep ! But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !? You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from It didn't get to court. The young girls were paid off to keep quiet well before he was arrested and then died in prison. Really ??? So how did they convict him if none of them testified?? " The lawsuit was in 2009. I am guessing other people testified. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 14/09/21 14:39:15]" Oops !!! Ok I won’t reply to that one since you deleted it | |||
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"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof. " We'll have none of your 'proof' nonsense in this thread, Lorna. | |||
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"PS Andrew is trying to use the pay off as a get out clause as he thinks he was mentioned in it haha so you jumped on board pretty sure I remember you trying to rain this thread in earlier ? It’s just an interesting topic right " I didn't. I asked people not to put different allegations on the thread. I also said I have no clue whether he did it or not. Then I posted what is being reported right now I still don't know if he abused young women or not. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 14/09/21 14:39:15] Oops !!! Ok I won’t reply to that one since you deleted it " Reply away, I posted again with a bit added | |||
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"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof. " Not having proof does not prevent a trial by internet, it actually encourages it | |||
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"What's he done now? I haven't been following this " I know right ! Can’t bring Andrew anywhere without him causing a world wide scandal! He’s been up to no good is what | |||
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"What's he done now? I haven't been following this " According to him, nothing, he took the family to pizza express | |||
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"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ???? Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?" If "The firm" wanted her dead she wouldn't be here now, I'm no Andrew fan, but still got to believe in innocent until proven guilty, there seems to be alot of judge, jury and executioners in fabland. Somethings never change. | |||
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"Someone in London once overheard him saying.. If there's grass on the field play ball.. And I don't think he was talking about the polo " Typical Andrew chat for ye !!! | |||
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"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ???? Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left? If "The firm" wanted her dead she wouldn't be here now, I'm no Andrew fan, but still got to believe in innocent until proven guilty, there seems to be alot of judge, jury and executioners in fabland. Somethings never change." It was a question I'm asking, if that was read..... According to the victim she was manipulated to meet the royal on a few occasions and threatened by the manipulator (not the royal) if she ever thought of leaving and reporting. The royal in my opinion, was a puppet like many others in power at the time. How 'grown' men - if they are innocent fall for this type of manipulation, when they're fully aware the ages of these young ladies.....I mean all that education and still thick to make the wrong 'innocent' choices ... Sorry I was looking at a broader picture, rather than just the royal meeting 3/4 times.... | |||
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"Someone in London once overheard him saying.. If there's grass on the field play ball.. And I don't think he was talking about the polo Typical Andrew chat for ye !!! " He's a hell of a boy, you can't take him anywhere | |||
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"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point). Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on. *** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. *** As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here. But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account? Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10. *** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing. 100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it" and she's only a 17 year old prostitute!" Why are you referring to her as a prostitute? | |||
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"If I'm not mistaken 16 is legal age here, what is the legal age over there? " Really ??? Why is Andrew wasting his money going over to America then ?? | |||
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"Guilty, who else trys to question the validity of the US court, and also arguing that the papers weren't served correctly, and i don't mean he didn't get them on a silver tray, Guilty as fuck" I honestly think he is guilty but why shouldn't he question a US court? His legal team are probably right - he has the money to pay for the best - so yes, the US court papers are a bit like Mickey Mouse. | |||
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"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point). Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on. *** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. *** As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here. But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account? Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10. *** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing. 100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it" and she's only a 17 year old prostitute! Why are you referring to her as a prostitute? " I'm referencing the earlier comments who appear to be of the opinion that a 17 year old child can choose to be a sex worker (and that it's ok for a dirty old prince to take advantage of such). | |||
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"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof. We'll have none of your 'proof' nonsense in this thread, Lorna. " Yeah who needs proof anyway. | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.." I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. | |||
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"In the end royals and political figures tend to have diary managers who schedule their days for them. The lady in question will have had to go through immigration to enter the country. So there will be evidence as to whether they could have met. If any of that evidence leans towards them not having met then the case will get thrown out. If the evidence says they could of met then it will become he said she said. I have no idea what he knew (no one does) but I assume any trial will draw out what evidence proves or invalidates any allegation. Its easy to assume guilt as he is not likable, but proving guilt is another matter. " I think it's already confirmed that she was in the same place at the same time? | |||
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"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk " Do a swap is what I think | |||
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"In the end royals and political figures tend to have diary managers who schedule their days for them. The lady in question will have had to go through immigration to enter the country. So there will be evidence as to whether they could have met. If any of that evidence leans towards them not having met then the case will get thrown out. If the evidence says they could of met then it will become he said she said. I have no idea what he knew (no one does) but I assume any trial will draw out what evidence proves or invalidates any allegation. Its easy to assume guilt as he is not likable, but proving guilt is another matter. " One of the great misunderstandings of the legal system is that people think things have to be proved absolutely. Outside of clearcut legal points, at the end of the day, the judge or jury make a decision on balance, _ased on what they believe is the version of events that is most plausible. Bit things do not have to be “proved “ 100 percent | |||
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"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof. Not having proof does not prevent a trial by internet, it actually encourages it " Definitely and I will not say whether he is guilty or not because I do not know and if credible evidence comes to light its a different story. I just think potentially a family is getting torn apart on hearsay and if it goes to court and we hear proper evidence then I will make an informed opinion. | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. " I saw the actor chaz palminteri being interviewed once and he was talking about growing up in a rough area, saying that after one or two near misses with the law, a local cop gave him a piece of advice that if he kept hanging around with the same kids, it would eventually bite him in the ass, saying “if you lie down with dogs, you’ll get fleas”. | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. " The reco act in America is just that !! But no I agree with your point I just don’t like ether one of them so I’ll try nit pick at anything | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. " The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much " You know she is shady when Donald Trump has your back | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much You know she is shady when Donald Trump has your back " Yeah I don't think I would want him as my character witness. | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much You know she is shady when Donald Trump has your back Yeah I don't think I would want him as my character witness. " What a prick ! But Let’s not drag this thread even further in to the gutter by bringing him in to it ! Yep I know that’s on me let’s move on my bad | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. " I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat " Calm down mate breath Police are still all dick heads no need to read out the Bobby hand book Good try tho | |||
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"I don’t know enough to say but I would be surprised if he wasn’t involved " I think it's probable he had knowledge or at least deep suspicions but I just can't think that he would have been directly involved in the grooming gang but im happy to be proved wrong by the courts. | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat " Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. " They do suffice !! It’s entertaining | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. They do suffice !! It’s entertaining " Maybe for some | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. They do suffice !! It’s entertaining " I find it dangerous and unhelpful. I have seen the sort of damage it can do | |||
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"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.. I don't think you can have guilt by association. If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one. If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much " But once again you are saying this with full hindsight. I had no idea this lady existed until epstine killed himself. Now I don't rub shoulders with the rich and famous and maybe if you run in those circles you knew at the time that she was a wrong un. But I don't know half of what people get up to who I associate with either work or socially. I know what I know for the few hours I hang out with them, and the same in reverse. No one who knows me personally would have a clue that I am a swinger. So once again guilt by association is no guilt at all. May as well say the sins of the parents should be transferable to the kids. If he is guilty he should go to jail but I'd like to see the facts not just peoples thoughts on him with no actual knowledge. | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. They do suffice !! It’s entertaining I find it dangerous and unhelpful. I have seen the sort of damage it can do " You find what dangerous and unhelpful exactly? And The damage to who ? Mate I’m not getting smart honestly I’m interested to know what you meant ? | |||
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"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk " Anne Sacoolas? Good swap, as these two have a lot to answer for and should stand in the dock and not hide under the umbrella of diplomacy and duck their responsibility to face the music. | |||
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" Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add. I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers. Just a few points to comment on .... 1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol? 2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above). 3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform). 4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police. 5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please. Good try though!!!! Gbat Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. They do suffice !! It’s entertaining I find it dangerous and unhelpful. I have seen the sort of damage it can do You find what dangerous and unhelpful exactly? And The damage to who ? Mate I’m not getting smart honestly I’m Linterested to know what you meant ? " Wild accusations without proof. You find them entertaining, as you stated. I find them damaging and dangerous ... I have seen peoples lives, livelihoods, careers and relationships destroyed by this sort of behaviour. I prefer to stick to facts. | |||
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