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"Technically they’re English ![]() Actually stidies suggest that the Welsh are more British than the English ![]() | |||
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"The tudors. The best song sang in a war movie Men of Harlech “Zulu”" That was my dad's favourite film. Crackin show. | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() Cymru am byth ![]() | |||
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"Supplied water to Birmingham " And Liverpool ![]() | |||
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"Supplied water to Birmingham And Liverpool ![]() Also supplied a large number of the teachers who educated the poor of that city. The Scouse accent contains elements of the accent of NE Wales, not the other way around. The Welsh influence on the growth of Liverpool is often overlooked. | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() Tiocfai..oh wait, that's not what we're doing ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Merely a comment on the survival of a language. No wider context right now. | |||
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"Provided my daughter and myself with a brilliant fun day out in Cardiff just before lockdown, when Wales were playing France at Rugby....Such a fun crowd.." I was at that game.. A great match and an even better crowd, the French supporters played their part in making it a brilliant day | |||
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"Supplied water to Birmingham " And Liverpool. | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() Didn’t know there was one | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() It's on the Forum homepage marked 'Wales' ![]() | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() I don’t go scroll past Swingers Chat | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() You did very well to post in Meet Requests then. ![]() | |||
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"Gave us Dame Shirley Bassey..." And that Jones chap | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() ![]() We’re you in the Inquisition? | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() ![]() Whatever did the Spanish do for us, eh? | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() ![]() Could you repost that in the Spanish Forum? ![]() | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat " Us Welsh were here first so what can they English do for us more like....Who's that trip, trapping over my land! Git orrf my Land! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. " Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Us Welsh were here first so what can they English do for us more like....Who's that trip, trapping over my land! Git orrf my Land! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English" Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() No!!! Plus popty is gog not hwntw so I can never accept it lol ![]() | |||
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"They made welsh cakes and bara brith. Such joy puts anyone in good stead with me ![]() Think we are the only ones thinking with our bellies ![]() | |||
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"Despite giving the world the most fabulous me. It's has the oldest living language in Europe, rich in history and maintained our culture via eisteddfodau despite it all. But it's enough to make the English ever so slightly jealous, so they make fun of us that we are not important, have no vowels apparently, and any other tired cliche about us. Anyone would think they were slightly intimidated by us ![]() ![]() When in fact we have MORE vowels than them ![]() | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() ![]() Rude ![]() | |||
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"Despite giving the world the most fabulous me. It's has the oldest living language in Europe, rich in history and maintained our culture via eisteddfodau despite it all. But it's enough to make the English ever so slightly jealous, so they make fun of us that we are not important, have no vowels apparently, and any other tired cliche about us. Anyone would think they were slightly intimidated by us ![]() ![]() I think giving us you is plenty good enough… | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() ![]() Lol gog a balch You don't need to accept it being hwntw ![]() | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() ![]() ![]() Haha, you've seen the cartoon gogs? https://youtu.be/4JlMhaVV4rw ![]() | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah, they're modelled on my family ![]() | |||
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"Despite giving the world the most fabulous me. It's has the oldest living language in Europe, rich in history and maintained our culture via eisteddfodau despite it all. But it's enough to make the English ever so slightly jealous, so they make fun of us that we are not important, have no vowels apparently, and any other tired cliche about us. Anyone would think they were slightly intimidated by us ![]() ![]() ![]() Indeed and they don't get that, Ch, Dd, Ff, Th etc are one letter so our words aren't full of consonants. But easier to poke fun of us oh well | |||
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"An amusing name for microwaves. Which is actually a nonsense myth to please the English Popty ping IS the best name for anything though, you have to say. We should own it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() No we are not we are Welsh/British | |||
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"I notice you weren't brave enough to start this in the Wales forum. ![]() ![]() ![]() Legend boom! High five right there | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() Given that the English are Germans, that's hardly surprising. | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() Only the ones that aren’t Norman | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() Wasn't a large chunk of England, Daneland once upon a time? | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() I think he's referring to the Angles (German tribe who invaded along with the Saxons and Jutes) and that's where "England" comes from. Originally Angle-land. | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() The North and Scotland (parts of), yes ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() Tbf, the Celts came from central Europe too, though there seems to be a great deal of argument about how they got to Britain. Whilst I like the way the Welsh preserve their language and 'culture' I dislike the whole 'we were here first' business. Where I live in South Wales the population exploded during the industrial revolution, all South Walians today are a much mongrels as anyone else in Britain. Even if you ignore the fact that Wales was invaded by the Romans and Normans (those beautiful castles dotted around aren't celtic) you can't escape the modern influx of people from all over Europe and todays day to day culture in Wales is very little different to that anywhere else in Britain. Of note though the first railway line was in Wales as was the invention of industrial scale steel production - two ideas that shaped the world. Mr | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() So we're all mongrels ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Woof Woof Woof ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yep! I know I am for certain (great grand-daughter of a foreigner ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You calling me a bitch ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Roofed the World " We’re thatched ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hang on, let me get the collar ready ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Kinky !!! ![]() | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Awww they are lovely people ![]() As are Northern Irish ![]() | |||
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"Brought us Gavin and Stacey ![]() They said benefits, not atrocities ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Ivor the engine ??" Is it I didn't know that. Know superted is Welsh, though I'm now showing my age ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Luke Evans is Welsh He’s a bloody babe! " Totally agree | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Right now being the operative words ![]() | |||
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"Despite giving the world the most fabulous me. It's has the oldest living language in Europe, rich in history and maintained our culture via eisteddfodau despite it all. But it's enough to make the English ever so slightly jealous, so they make fun of us that we are not important, have no vowels apparently, and any other tired cliche about us. Anyone would think they were slightly intimidated by us ![]() ![]() You could've stopped after the first sentence and I'd still be convinced ![]() | |||
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"Despite giving the world the most fabulous me. It's has the oldest living language in Europe, rich in history and maintained our culture via eisteddfodau despite it all. But it's enough to make the English ever so slightly jealous, so they make fun of us that we are not important, have no vowels apparently, and any other tired cliche about us. Anyone would think they were slightly intimidated by us ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol thank you. I love diversity and that's what Wales gives the UK, in world that is becoming more and more homogeneous. For a small island it's amazing how diverse we are. | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Can you just say what you are implying? If you think I am some staunch Welsh nationalist, you have me very wrong. I have never voted for Plaid in a general election, though, I am looking in that direction now, given the dire state of Westminster and the UK. Until recent times, I very much saw Wales as part of the UK. I know exactly which organisation’s motto was/is “Tiocfai….”. If you think my comments on the survival of a language against the odds means I would endorse their aims and methods, that is a disgraceful slur. Not to mention utterly clueless. If | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Honestly I was just taking the piss and I'm sorry if I caused any offence. I don't know you from adam so would never assume your political leanings. Tiocfai… is not the motto of any organisation. It was a phrase coined by Irish nationalists/Republicans. Once again I'm sorry, no offence was intended and I should realise my humour doesn't always translate. | |||
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"Despite giving the world the most fabulous me. It's has the oldest living language in Europe, rich in history and maintained our culture via eisteddfodau despite it all. But it's enough to make the English ever so slightly jealous, so they make fun of us that we are not important, have no vowels apparently, and any other tired cliche about us. Anyone would think they were slightly intimidated by us ![]() ![]() ![]() Diversity should always be celebrated. I've always marveled at how diverse Ireland is too for being such a small island | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ha - I was wondering if I read that wrong. The second comment made me think - nope, he must be serious. I read it as a bit antagonistic, but happy to accept it wasn’t meant like that. It doesn’t belong to any one organisation, but it is a phrase that has often been used by terrorist organisations. I was thinking “is he really equating the two”?!!! Anyway, all good. Let’s hug it out. | |||
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"The original Britons, who speak a beautiful language that predates English and has survived all attempts by the powerful to obliterate it (by plenty of Welsh people, too, I must add). Yma o hyd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Phew, thank you. Rereading I can see where you'd think that. That's the difficulty with text, no tone. You're right, it has unfortunately but I can promise I'd never endorse said groups. They're a blight. ![]() | |||
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"Named a place Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch " How do you pronounce it? | |||
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"Named a place Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch How do you pronounce it?" That's a forum challenge for you ![]() | |||
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"Supply a quicker and more affective road out of the place ![]() Well if you ever get lost it wales I’ll gladly show you how to get on it ![]() | |||
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"Named a place Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch How do you pronounce it?" Pretty well, thanks. | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? " The unWelsh | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh" That's a better name for the English ![]() ![]() | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh" Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh That's a better name for the English ![]() ![]() Yr wyf yn awr yn eich datgan 'Yn 'Cymraeg' ![]() | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh That's a better name for the English ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? " Taught us how not to behave when we watch the Rugby ![]() | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? " ![]() | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? ![]() It's a valid point though? What have the Saesneg done for us? | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? ![]() Oh it's more than valid but it's a can of worms I probably shouldn't open. | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat " Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. | |||
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"Technically they’re English ![]() You clearly dont know your history. The celts (welsh) were here long before you anglo saxons (English). | |||
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"Supplied water to Birmingham " And Liverpool "Cofiwch Dryweryn" | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. " How is this offensive be to anyone Welsh? | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? ![]() Curious to hear your views though | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. " It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there " Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there " It’s interesting how threads pan out. Generally I find the forums less argy bargy than when I was here before under different profile names. No offence intended. It’s an imitation of ‘What did the Romans ever do for us?’ I’m currently holidaying in Wales. The most laughable bit was being challenged on why I didn’t post in the Wales section? It never even occurred to me to do so. Then when I joke I never go below swingers chat someone investigates to prove me wrong! But overall a fun thread. | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. " Possibly. But I read it as a response to Gbats post in affirmation and was offended at the thread as a whole. I could be wrong though | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there It’s interesting how threads pan out. Generally I find the forums less argy bargy than when I was here before under different profile names. No offence intended. It’s an imitation of ‘What did the Romans ever do for us?’ I’m currently holidaying in Wales. The most laughable bit was being challenged on why I didn’t post in the Wales section? It never even occurred to me to do so. Then when I joke I never go below swingers chat someone investigates to prove me wrong! But overall a fun thread." I agree...It was a good thread! And great to see so many Welsh respond. Hope you are enjoying your holiday ![]() | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. Possibly. But I read it as a response to Gbats post in affirmation and was offended at the thread as a whole. I could be wrong though " I saw it that way once you pointed it out | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. " The issue with text is there's no tone or context in it unlike a phone call or face to face context. Sense of humour can often be lost and misinterpreted. | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. The issue with text is there's no tone or context in it unlike a phone call or face to face context. Sense of humour can often be lost and misinterpreted. " Yep absolutely …. I find myself explaining this last bit a lot after some of my messages ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. The issue with text is there's no tone or context in it unlike a phone call or face to face context. Sense of humour can often be lost and misinterpreted. Yep absolutely …. I find myself explaining this last bit a lot after some of my messages ![]() ![]() A swift read above will verify I've to do it now and again | |||
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"When you say "us" who do you mean? The unWelsh Or the English to be more specific? Fairly ignorant original question tbh. What have the English ever done for us? ![]() Start the thread, I'd hate to clog up this one ![]() | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. The issue with text is there's no tone or context in it unlike a phone call or face to face context. Sense of humour can often be lost and misinterpreted. " It can hence why I didn't comment on the post further, once it was clarified ![]() | |||
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"Say twch Deen pob Sais at every opportunity under their breath ![]() That should read "twll tin pob sais" ![]() | |||
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"The NHS was brought to you by Aneurin Bevan. But more importantly, what did YOU do that makes you think the Welsh should do anything for you? Gbat Ignorance is rife among many. If this had been said about a coloured person, the poster and some responders would have been banned for racism. As a Welshman, I take offence to this post. It's not worth getting offended over though I can see why it could be as there isn't much in way of context in the original OP so it could be interpreted as offensive Only one thing offended me on the thread and it was challenged by someone else so no bother there Oh now I'm confused I thought they were offended by Gbat post. And agreed one post did offend me but it was cleared up. The issue with text is there's no tone or context in it unlike a phone call or face to face context. Sense of humour can often be lost and misinterpreted. It can hence why I didn't comment on the post further, once it was clarified ![]() Which is understandable. All's well that ends well though. | |||
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"Roofed the World We’re thatched ![]() And how is your thatch at present ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Roads, sanitation, the viaduct, law and order--hang on, no, that was the romans ! ![]() The same they gave the English no? | |||
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