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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon |
As I said the last time this came up... I know just where I was.
In the middle of the opening day of the pub I was working in. We didn't have a telly in there at the time, so when someone came in and said what was happening the boss went and got his from upstairs. Switched in just in time to see the 2nd tower hit.
I fainted. Then spent the rest of the day waiting for a call that never came.
For someone somewhere it must have achieved something. But for too many all it achieved was heartbreak and loss. |
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"As I said the last time this came up... I know just where I was.
In the middle of the opening day of the pub I was working in. We didn't have a telly in there at the time, so when someone came in and said what was happening the boss went and got his from upstairs. Switched in just in time to see the 2nd tower hit.
I fainted. Then spent the rest of the day waiting for a call that never came.
For someone somewhere it must have achieved something. But for too many all it achieved was heartbreak and loss."
Yep . This . Totally  |
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"Can anyone explain what this awfull attack actually achieved? "
The Washington Post estimates that the cost of invading Afghanistan (as that's where the US were convinced Bin Laden was hiding out after 'masterminding the attacks') at US$2.3 trillion.
Thats US$2,300,000,000,000.00
Civilian casualties:
According to the Watson Institute 71,000
The Costs of War makes for sobering reading. Search Watson Brown education as it's a University. The total long term costs of the Afghanistan adventure is reckoned by Watson Brown to be closer to US$8 trillion when long term care of the wounded, corruption and everything else is taken into account.
Military casualties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan |
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Remember just finishing my shift and one of the guys said America is under attack.to this day still feel for all them innocent people and all those heroes who tried to help and save people.R.I.P. to all those lovely people who lost there lives.to the scum who killed all them inocent people rot in hell. |
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By *ean counter OP Man
over a year ago
Market Harborough / Kettering |
When I first heard the news I thought they meant a small single seater had accidentally hit one of the towers not a full on passenger plane! Makes you wonder what the hell was going through the hijackers heads? Must have been completely brainwashed!! |
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I was walking dogs with a friend, his wife phoned him to say that there was a terrorist on America, he just laughed and said Bollocks before hanging up.
When we got back to his we both watched in silence the repeated footage......
Neither of us had expected to see anything like that in our lives.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I remember working fir a games company and someone popping into our room to say that one of the towers had been hit and we turned the TV on just in time to see the second plane hit. Was horrible watching it and couldn't believe what I was seeing |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
South Wales |
I watched it sat on my sofa at home. I will never forget it. I’ve only recently been able to watch documentaries on it, Survivors accounts and their tales of people who selflessly helped them and others, from the emergency services to just other office workers.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Isn’t it Saturday?
But yeah I was on Operational Tour in Northern Ireland I’m pretty sure I was duty too, I remember us all sitting around wondering what the retaliation would be and pretty much guessing we the UK would be involved at some point.
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Watched a programme on it last night, from the view point of different people filming around the city. Still gets you no matter how much time has passed. You just can’t, and don’t to, imagine the terror those people went through. Heartbreaking.
I was at my grandads and watched as the second plan hit. Never forget it |
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I remember it was the day I got my student card at college and then shortly after one of my mates told me about the planes hitting the trade centre.
Watched the program the other night and it still brings back the anger and hurt.
We wasted 20 years and thousands of people died and now the terrorists have more control than ever |
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By *ean counter OP Man
over a year ago
Market Harborough / Kettering |
The USA and probably half of the world accused Osama Bin Laden of being the mastermind of this attack and you have to ask why? His father was worth over €5 billion ! So why did he have this mindset?? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
I have told my story before…. I am sure a lot of the people who have been here for a while know…
I was in New York until 2 days before… and September 11 was my first day working in my new job at American Express
There was an announcement at 2pm asking if anyone who had New York relatives to go to a room… they told us a plane had crashed into WTC, and they would let us know more when they did…
15 minutes later they pulled us all aside, let us know a 2nd one had crashed, and anyone who wanted to go home could….. wired thing was most of us stayed but an office where you would here telephones ringing constantly went deafly silent
Then they told us all to go home… just go home! It was when we asked what had happened they told us of collapse 1….
I had friends who worked in both buildings… I had relatives who worked just a few blocks up!
And then for some reason I became almost the point person for everyone I knew to find out if everyone was safe….
The weird thing is that because the tv and radio antennas were at the top of WTC1 basically a lot of people in New York couldn’t get information, but me here could…. So it’s me with 2 phones trying to find out who was where, if people were okay ect
My relatives were okay… they left their buildings after the first one hit and basically ended up having to walk all the way up Manhattan and over the bridge into queens before they managed to get lifts
Not everyone I knew got out, I lost 6 damn good friends that day… 3 worked for cantor Fitzgerald, 3 worked for Morgan Stanley
So on Saturday, I’ll do what I always do on that day… go to my church in the morning and light 6 little candles…. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I remember that day so clearly..
As per my username I grew up Stateside. Whilst no one I knew was in NYC on that day. I did have friends in the Pentagon and had been to the WTC a few times.
Ironically I actually got married on 9/11 (2004 though) it was the only date available (no wonder) unsurprisingly it was not a good omen for my marriage! |
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I was sat on the sofa watching telly feeding my 12 day old baby. My grandparents were on a flight to the US for a family wedding but diverted to Calgary. My ex in-laws were in the US & on an internal flight. It was one of the worst days ever just waiting….
We went to the 9/11 memorial last year & it was totally heartbreaking. I sobbed the whole way round.
J x |
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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon |
"I have told my story before…. I am sure a lot of the people who have been here for a while know…
I was in New York until 2 days before… and September 11 was my first day working in my new job at American Express
There was an announcement at 2pm asking if anyone who had New York relatives to go to a room… they told us a plane had crashed into WTC, and they would let us know more when they did…
15 minutes later they pulled us all aside, let us know a 2nd one had crashed, and anyone who wanted to go home could….. wired thing was most of us stayed but an office where you would here telephones ringing constantly went deafly silent
Then they told us all to go home… just go home! It was when we asked what had happened they told us of collapse 1….
I had friends who worked in both buildings… I had relatives who worked just a few blocks up!
And then for some reason I became almost the point person for everyone I knew to find out if everyone was safe….
The weird thing is that because the tv and radio antennas were at the top of WTC1 basically a lot of people in New York couldn’t get information, but me here could…. So it’s me with 2 phones trying to find out who was where, if people were okay ect
My relatives were okay… they left their buildings after the first one hit and basically ended up having to walk all the way up Manhattan and over the bridge into queens before they managed to get lifts
Not everyone I knew got out, I lost 6 damn good friends that day… 3 worked for cantor Fitzgerald, 3 worked for Morgan Stanley
So on Saturday, I’ll do what I always do on that day… go to my church in the morning and light 6 little candles…."
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"I have told my story before…. I am sure a lot of the people who have been here for a while know…
I was in New York until 2 days before… and September 11 was my first day working in my new job at American Express
There was an announcement at 2pm asking if anyone who had New York relatives to go to a room… they told us a plane had crashed into WTC, and they would let us know more when they did…
15 minutes later they pulled us all aside, let us know a 2nd one had crashed, and anyone who wanted to go home could….. wired thing was most of us stayed but an office where you would here telephones ringing constantly went deafly silent
Then they told us all to go home… just go home! It was when we asked what had happened they told us of collapse 1….
I had friends who worked in both buildings… I had relatives who worked just a few blocks up!
And then for some reason I became almost the point person for everyone I knew to find out if everyone was safe….
The weird thing is that because the tv and radio antennas were at the top of WTC1 basically a lot of people in New York couldn’t get information, but me here could…. So it’s me with 2 phones trying to find out who was where, if people were okay ect
My relatives were okay… they left their buildings after the first one hit and basically ended up having to walk all the way up Manhattan and over the bridge into queens before they managed to get lifts
Not everyone I knew got out, I lost 6 damn good friends that day… 3 worked for cantor Fitzgerald, 3 worked for Morgan Stanley
So on Saturday, I’ll do what I always do on that day… go to my church in the morning and light 6 little candles…."
Sending so much love
J x |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"I have told my story before…. I am sure a lot of the people who have been here for a while know…
I was in New York until 2 days before… and September 11 was my first day working in my new job at American Express
There was an announcement at 2pm asking if anyone who had New York relatives to go to a room… they told us a plane had crashed into WTC, and they would let us know more when they did…
15 minutes later they pulled us all aside, let us know a 2nd one had crashed, and anyone who wanted to go home could….. wired thing was most of us stayed but an office where you would here telephones ringing constantly went deafly silent
Then they told us all to go home… just go home! It was when we asked what had happened they told us of collapse 1….
I had friends who worked in both buildings… I had relatives who worked just a few blocks up!
And then for some reason I became almost the point person for everyone I knew to find out if everyone was safe….
The weird thing is that because the tv and radio antennas were at the top of WTC1 basically a lot of people in New York couldn’t get information, but me here could…. So it’s me with 2 phones trying to find out who was where, if people were okay ect
My relatives were okay… they left their buildings after the first one hit and basically ended up having to walk all the way up Manhattan and over the bridge into queens before they managed to get lifts
Not everyone I knew got out, I lost 6 damn good friends that day… 3 worked for cantor Fitzgerald, 3 worked for Morgan Stanley
So on Saturday, I’ll do what I always do on that day… go to my church in the morning and light 6 little candles….
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According to the documentaries on the telly this week, the emegergy command centres were also in the towers too (can anyone confirm this first hand?) and that took out any hope off joined up coms. The police fire brigade and the ambulances couldn't share information on the fly.
Also that programme mentioned that the towers were supposed to have 6 stairwells, but only three were built, as the planning rules had changed recently and that meant more space to rent out.
This felt like a pair of upright Titanics. Thousands of people trapped with so little chance of escape. A perfect storm of bad politics, pure evil, bad disaster advice and total and utter chaos and politicians at all levels, never, ever learning from history.
If only America stopped destabilsing other stable countries, then maybe, just maybe all those people might have gone home on that day, alive.
RIP to those who died. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was at work a mate rang me turned on the TV and was just stunned at what I was seeing. Same as the morning I got home at 6ish from the gym and saw grenfell ablaze poor people  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On that day I was attending a conference in Queen Elizabeth Hall opposite the Houses of Parliament. If they had attacked London then I wouldn’t be here today.
It was a hot day and I walked to Oxford Circus to buy my daughter a school bag from Top Shop. There was a huge crowd standing around the entrance to the Underground and I just thought it was a problem with the trains.
The paper sellers were shouting something I couldn’t make out and I jumped on a bus to Victoria Station to get the train home to Kent.
I bought an Evening Standard and rushed onto the train. I started reading the paper and quickly had to get a tissue out as I had tears running down my face.
I managed to hold back my emotions until I opened my front door and I collapsed in a mess holding my daughter. All I could think was that WW3 had started. I was mesmerised by the coverage on the tv and had a dreadful night without sleep mourning the loss of all those people.
Mankind hasn’t learnt anything from these horrendous acts and I do live in fear at what will happen next.
Obscene amounts of money are spent on war while a good percentage of people in the world lack enough food and water to have a decent life. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"I was at work a mate rang me turned on the TV and was just stunned at what I was seeing. Same as the morning I got home at 6ish from the gym and saw grenfell ablaze poor people "
I had a letter from my social housing landlord, telling all residents to stay put if there was a fire in a neighbouring property.
Err, I'm just going to ignore that advice, as I don't feel comfortable waiting to die for no reason. If upstairs was to burn, then all of the foam and or water would flood my place too.
It's these decisions that kill people, evacuation exists for a reason. Who exactly chose that particular cladding?
As the fire brigade said once.
"Get out
Get us out
And stay out!"
Wise words indeed. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
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According to the documentaries on the telly this week, the emegergy command centres were also in the towers too (can anyone confirm this first hand?) and that took out any hope off joined up coms. The police fire brigade and the ambulances couldn't share information on the fly.
Also that programme mentioned that the towers were supposed to have 6 stairwells, but only three were built, as the planning rules had changed recently and that meant more space to rent out.
This felt like a pair of upright Titanics. Thousands of people trapped with so little chance of escape. A perfect storm of bad politics, pure evil, bad disaster advice and total and utter chaos and politicians at all levels, never, ever learning from history.
If only America stopped destabilsing other stable countries, then maybe, just maybe all those people might have gone home on that day, alive.
RIP to those who died."
Yep… the state and federal emergency services unit were based in the basement of WTC1 |
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"Well, it destabilised the Middle East. Again
And got good ol' Dubya to give the world its greatest ever acronym with The War Against Terror "
This in a nutshell. We should keep out of the middle east. It's tribal always has been always will. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Well, it destabilised the Middle East. Again
And got good ol' Dubya to give the world its greatest ever acronym with The War Against Terror
This in a nutshell. We should keep out of the middle east. It's tribal always has been always will. "
Other than what they did… what do you think they should have done?
I don’t think anyone had a problem with the initial reaction.. the problem was the duration
Anyway that’s all my political points for today…. Today is about honouring the 3000 people who died on this day 20 years ago |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On 9/11, it would be nice if Americans also remembered the countless lives that their war on terror has affected. There are kids who were not even born in 2001 who are facing the consequences of this war. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This time 20 years I was working for a man who use to live in New York and I remember him calling me in to watch the news.
Where did all the time go! I wish I could turn the clock back |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"I can't believe its nearly 20 years ago! I can remember the exact place / spot I was driving through when the news broke. Can anyone explain what this awfull attack actually achieved? "
it achieved exactally what al queda wanted global jihad,probably done more to swell there numbers than anything else could
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The headline on the news was
"America under attack"
When I saw the plane in the building, it didn't seem real.. As if I was watching a movie.
May they all rest in peace |
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"I can't believe its nearly 20 years ago! I can remember the exact place / spot I was driving through when the news broke. Can anyone explain what this awfull attack actually achieved? "
On a personal basis, all it achieved was my mate getting killed while serving in Afghanistan |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"The USA and probably half of the world accused Osama Bin Laden of being the mastermind of this attack and you have to ask why? His father was worth over €5 billion ! So why did he have this mindset?? "
good programe on the other night called road to bin laden,one of his mujahadeen commanders reakon he became like he did after they defeated the russians he then fell in with the muslim brotherhood from eygpt and others from pakistan,apparently up until that point he didnt hold those beleifs and was just a fighter helping to defeat the russians
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I remember being on a trading floor in london watching the overhead news screens as events unfolded. Seemed so surreal as if it was a movie. Hard to fathom the scale of destruction and loss of life. Remarkable stories of heroism told thereafter.
Would like to think humanity would learn - but alas we seem destined to repeat the same loops.
RIP
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
It doesn't feel like 20 years.
I was visiting my aunty to introduce my 4 week old baby to them. They had the news on, couldn't believe it was happening.
My best friend was giving birth. |
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