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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Save as many animals and humans as we can ... I can't imagine what it is like to be torn from everything you know to start over in a foreign country so wildly different |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
(She/ her) in Sensualityland |
"A five year old waving frantically at you or a friendly looking dog.
which one do you pick up in your animal ambulance ?"
This summarises it succinctly for me and I love animals.
Given that dilemma and only one option under the pressure of time (no time to negotiate etc) and guns on the horizon..
I would rescue the child and feel guilty forever after but would hope the dog got away. I could not choose the alternative.
I could not act in any other way. |
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"A five year old waving frantically at you or a friendly looking dog.
which one do you pick up in your animal ambulance ?
Why can’t you pick both? "
Stop making my life hard kylie !
There is only one space left........ who do you pick ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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think its an example of someone becoming fixated on what he or she is doing and not seeing the bigger picture.
Yes, its right to be concerned for animal welfare but its also right we help those who helped us and who may be at risk. Limited time frame, limited in aircraft and also stretching the troops on the ground who have to guard the aircraft and Marshall people.
I would choose people over animals. |
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Well considering he’s charted his own plane to take his staff (with their families) and the animals out of the country they aren’t taking up space on the other rescue mission planes.
At the moment they are through airport clearance, but they have to await their flight, if it arrives. |
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"Well considering he’s charted his own plane to take his staff (with their families) and the animals out of the country they aren’t taking up space on the other rescue mission planes.
At the moment they are through airport clearance, but they have to await their flight, if it arrives. "
He was taken on a military flight in the end having to leave his staff behind 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well considering he’s charted his own plane to take his staff (with their families) and the animals out of the country they aren’t taking up space on the other rescue mission planes.
At the moment they are through airport clearance, but they have to await their flight, if it arrives.
He was taken on a military flight in the end having to leave his staff behind
J x"
I believe it was a commercial flight. His staff all had the necessary paperwork to travel to UK but were denied entry to American controlled area due to last minute changes by US Government. |
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"Well considering he’s charted his own plane to take his staff (with their families) and the animals out of the country they aren’t taking up space on the other rescue mission planes.
At the moment they are through airport clearance, but they have to await their flight, if it arrives.
He was taken on a military flight in the end having to leave his staff behind
J x"
That is sad to hear, especially as we are pulling out today |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
For me it's simple. People before animals.
And whilst we should have empathy for animals, I'd like to think we also have empathy in a greater supply for innocent kids.
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"A true hero. Tom Hardy would be great for the part, you could play one of the scruffy hounds, OP. 
If I have to be a dog when reincarnated I would love to be a Springer Spaniel..
Anyone else "
No they nuts! A lab for me x |
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" think its an example of someone becoming fixated on what he or she is doing and not seeing the bigger picture.
Yes, its right to be concerned for animal welfare but its also right we help those who helped us and who may be at risk. Limited time frame, limited in aircraft and also stretching the troops on the ground who have to guard the aircraft and Marshall people.
I would choose people over animals."
The thing is - it was only such a limited time frame because the us and uk govt and allies made it so.
It was known in April that the allied troops were leaving Afghanistan - plans should have been made then - and by now we’d have airlifted every person and animal who needed to be evacuated.
Even if we’d assumed the Afghan authorities would defeat the Taliban - once it became apparent that this wasn’t the case the allies did bugger all until well beyond the 11th hour. In the first few days after the Taliban took Kabul I think I read that one plane left for the UK?
The fact is that the US, the UK and other allied governments will have the blood of many thousands of people AND animals on their hands in the coming months. |
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over a year ago
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"A true hero. Tom Hardy would be great for the part, you could play one of the scruffy hounds, OP.
If I have to be a dog when reincarnated I would love to be a Springer Spaniel..
Anyone else "
Oh, they're adorable Tom, good shout  |
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Take the child, and explain the dog is her comfort and she'll carry it.
If absolutely pushed however and it has to be one or the other, then the child goes and the dog stays.
The dog potentially is a food source, if things descend further in to oblivion, and it may feed some starving people, so whilst not a morally nice move, some pragmatic good could come out of it. Sorry Rover.
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I do admire the guy a lot, and I do understand that he raised the money for his private flight for him his staff and all the animals but, there were only a limited amount of slots at Kabul airport so listening to one of the military guys on the radio it was clear that Pen and his campaign were a pain in the ass to the authorities. I do hear what he said about humans not being able to travel in the hold, these planes were not carrying cargo, the animals could have gone in there, not sure right now where they all are  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I do admire the guy a lot, and I do understand that he raised the money for his private flight for him his staff and all the animals but, there were only a limited amount of slots at Kabul airport so listening to one of the military guys on the radio it was clear that Pen and his campaign were a pain in the ass to the authorities. I do hear what he said about humans not being able to travel in the hold, these planes were not carrying cargo, the animals could have gone in there, not sure right now where they all are "
It was only him on the plane as the staff and their families weren't allowed to travel. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
Cat. It was sold in the UK during the Second World War and called Gutter Rabbit. Everyone knew what it was. It’s quite difficult to tell the carcasses apart after the head and paws have been removed.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Those people are acutely desperate, every animal he takes is a potential meal. Sounds daft but..... "
Err.. Muslims are forbidden to have anything to do with dogs  |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"I'd guess he's lost a lot of support with the voicemail he left , I've just heard it in full "
I'm not sure he will lose support over the voicemail and he handled himself far better than I think I would under the circumstances, knowing a civil servant was holding back the authority needed to get my plane in and out of Kabul. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He said: "I just found out that is you blocking me getting this flight out of Afghanistan for my staff and the animals. So here's the deal buddy. You either get me that f****** Isaf number and you get me permission to get on to that f****** airfield, or tomorrow morning I'm going to turn on you and the whole f****** country, and everybody else who's invested in this rescue, is going to know it's you, you, blocking this f****** move. Alright?".
He continued: "I will get my staff out of here and I'll get so many other people out of here on this flight and then the dogs and cats are going in the cargo hold. Nobody can sit in the cargo hold, only the animals."
He wanted to get Afghans out by filling the seats but government stopped him from how i read it |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"He said: "I just found out that is you blocking me getting this flight out of Afghanistan for my staff and the animals. So here's the deal buddy. You either get me that f****** Isaf number and you get me permission to get on to that f****** airfield, or tomorrow morning I'm going to turn on you and the whole f****** country, and everybody else who's invested in this rescue, is going to know it's you, you, blocking this f****** move. Alright?".
He continued: "I will get my staff out of here and I'll get so many other people out of here on this flight and then the dogs and cats are going in the cargo hold. Nobody can sit in the cargo hold, only the animals."
He wanted to get Afghans out by filling the seats but government stopped him from how i read it"
That is pretty much spot on in what he said. I am sure I would have said a lot worse! He chartered his own plane, he did so much to get his animals and staff out without impacting the ongoing military efforts to then be delayed by bureaucratic bull is such a shame. |
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These animals were four days in carrying cages in hot conditions then on a noisy aircraft. Now they are in quarantine for four months. They must be so traumatised. Would it have been more humane to euthanise them in Kabul ? |
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals? "
I have met this wonderful man when he done a talk in a local church hall. He is amazing and his tales would break your heart. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"These animals were four days in carrying cages in hot conditions then on a noisy aircraft. Now they are in quarantine for four months. They must be so traumatised. Would it have been more humane to euthanise them in Kabul ? "
I think he'd have assessed it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When you see that hundreds of people couldn't be evacuated, including children, the state response has to be to save people before animals. From what I understand, the guy ran a completely private initiative so you can argue that's his call, as long as it didn't interfere with the other operations and prevented people to be evacuated.
You can also argue that the more intuitive things to do, if you are there and able to charter a plane is to volunteer your service to the government.
But we can all waffle as much as we want, we are not there in Kabul. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
A life is a life. Why specifically is a human life more important than another creatures?
No seriously, tell me.
Why are self aware extreme criminals jailed while animals are euthanized? What specifically, other than being of the same species makes us view human life above others? Is your reasoning fact, emotional, or opinion?
Let's keep in mind that people are responsible for this whole fucked up mess in the first place, people on both sides and all race and religion.
Because my view emotional and opinion is I don't view any life (including my own) any more important than another - outside of natural and instinctual self preservation.
I would have done the exact same thing as he did, saved both within my own power, focusing on those closest to me first. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"A life is a life. Why specifically is a human life more important than another creatures?
No seriously, tell me.
Why are self aware extreme criminals jailed while animals are euthanized? What specifically, other than being of the same species makes us view human life above others? Is your reasoning fact, emotional, or opinion?
Let's keep in mind that people are responsible for this whole fucked up mess in the first place, people on both sides and all race and religion.
Because my view emotional and opinion is I don't view any life (including my own) any more important than another - outside of natural and instinctual self preservation.
I would have done the exact same thing as he did, saved both within my own power, focusing on those closest to me first."
Totally agree...step on an ant or step on you..
Not sure which way I would go...,. Save the ant perhaps.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals? "
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk? |
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk? "
Shit, you've put the rats among the jellyfish now!  |
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By *iss KissWoman
over a year ago
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"I think save who you can. People and animals. Lives are precious
They are.. the animals are at risk of being put down if they carry disease I read "
I suppose it depends what's wrong with them. I wouldn't want any animal to suffer. You'd think the people who looked after them over there would know if they were sick or not. And how to deal with whatever it was. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk? "
If they were sharks or crocodiles then let them fend for themselves.. they have existed for centuries.. they don't need or want our help.. dogs fair play but cats... All they do is shit on lawns ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk?
If they were sharks or crocodiles then let them fend for themselves.. they have existed for centuries.. they don't need or want our help.. dogs fair play but cats... All they do is shit on lawns ..."
So its only about animals that you like. Good to know.
Ps - Cats have also been around for centuries - just like sharks and snakes. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk?
If they were sharks or crocodiles then let them fend for themselves.. they have existed for centuries.. they don't need or want our help.. dogs fair play but cats... All they do is shit on lawns ...
So its only about animals that you like. Good to know.
Ps - Cats have also been around for centuries - just like sharks and snakes."
And they have shat on lawns for centuries...horrible creatures and that is just the owners.. |
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk?
If they were sharks or crocodiles then let them fend for themselves.. they have existed for centuries.. they don't need or want our help.. dogs fair play but cats... All they do is shit on lawns ...
So its only about animals that you like. Good to know.
Ps - Cats have also been around for centuries - just like sharks and snakes."
You're on a hiding to nothing with this conversation, mark my words (like cat shit in your peonies)  |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk?
If they were sharks or crocodiles then let them fend for themselves.. they have existed for centuries.. they don't need or want our help.. dogs fair play but cats... All they do is shit on lawns ...
So its only about animals that you like. Good to know.
Ps - Cats have also been around for centuries - just like sharks and snakes.
You're on a hiding to nothing with this conversation, mark my words (like cat shit in your peonies) "
Yes but better to live one day as a wolf than a hundred as a sheep.. |
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
Youve made several posts about how dangerous adders and sharks are - and recently one about about re-widling Lynx's. my observation from these posts is that you are not in favour of these animals being in our country. In your opening and following post, you praise this person for saving 'animals' Generally
How would you feel if this person was saving snakes, sharks and Lynxs's or similar from a war torn area and bringing them to the Uk?
If they were sharks or crocodiles then let them fend for themselves.. they have existed for centuries.. they don't need or want our help.. dogs fair play but cats... All they do is shit on lawns ...
So its only about animals that you like. Good to know.
Ps - Cats have also been around for centuries - just like sharks and snakes.
You're on a hiding to nothing with this conversation, mark my words (like cat shit in your peonies) "
I hate cat shit in my peonies |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive seen little news regarding flights leaving virtually empty. Pen farthing's wife was on one plus reports of other flights being the same snd unclear as to the identity of the planes |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Did the work force get left behind ?
For now, yes. They were unable to access the airport complex because they didn't have certain paperwork required by the US forces, who were managing entry. "
Were they sold down the river.. sounds like ..
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Did the work force get left behind ?
For now, yes. They were unable to access the airport complex because they didn't have certain paperwork required by the US forces, who were managing entry. "
And you believe that.. ?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well considering he’s charted his own plane to take his staff (with their families) and the animals out of the country they aren’t taking up space on the other rescue mission planes.
At the moment they are through airport clearance, but they have to await their flight, if it arrives.
He was taken on a military flight in the end having to leave his staff behind
J x
That is sad to hear, especially as we are pulling out today "
Pulling out has never before created so many issues |
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"Did the work force get left behind ?
For now, yes. They were unable to access the airport complex because they didn't have certain paperwork required by the US forces, who were managing entry.
Were they sold down the river.. sounds like ..
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They are awaiting further options to come to the UK. The MOD alleges they have the right to come under one of the resettlement schemes. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Did the work force get left behind ?
For now, yes. They were unable to access the airport complex because they didn't have certain paperwork required by the US forces, who were managing entry.
Were they sold down the river.. sounds like ..
They are awaiting further options to come to the UK. The MOD alleges they have the right to come under one of the resettlement schemes."
Oh right...good luck with that one... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"lets bring all the people, all the animals and dig up all the soil, so theres just an empty hole left, and bring it all back and build a new afghanistan next to the isle of wight... "
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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago
Whitley Bay |
"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals? "
I think he should do what he feels like he needs to do. Who are we in life if we don't answer our calling!?
Gorgeous work. |
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There was never going to be a good outcome to this sad mess. “War” my arse, it was an invasion, and the people of Afghanistan have been let down horribly by the invaders who had promised a new way of living.
The cats and dogs thing is a sideshow, but how anyone could choose animals above humans is beyond me. |
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
I think he should do what he feels like he needs to do. Who are we in life if we don't answer our calling!?
Gorgeous work."
Did you think his threats to “destroy” an official were gorgeous work too?
Great that the bloke loves animals, but let’s not make him out to be some kind of a saint |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
I think he should do what he feels like he needs to do. Who are we in life if we don't answer our calling!?
Gorgeous work.
Did you think his threats to “destroy” an official were gorgeous work too?
Great that the bloke loves animals, but let’s not make him out to be some kind of a saint "
Don't forget the extreme situation he was in. He was potentially facing, and his staff, and his dogs, the wrath of tribal groups. Cut him a little slack |
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"Pen, the ex marine has guts and charachter, literally prepared to put his life in extreme danger to save his animals and workers. He said he would not leave without them. They will make a movie about him one day. Essex Tom would be perfect for the part.
Does anyone think that we should be saving people and not animals?
I think he should do what he feels like he needs to do. Who are we in life if we don't answer our calling!?
Gorgeous work.
Did you think his threats to “destroy” an official were gorgeous work too?
Great that the bloke loves animals, but let’s not make him out to be some kind of a saint
Don't forget the extreme situation he was in. He was potentially facing, and his staff, and his dogs, the wrath of tribal groups. Cut him a little slack "
Fair point, but by the same token, factor in his training for dealing with stressful situations. Remarkable work, but I can’t just airbrush the bollocking and threatening of an official. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There was never going to be a good outcome to this sad mess. “War” my arse, it was an invasion, and the people of Afghanistan have been let down horribly by the invaders who had promised a new way of living.
The cats and dogs thing is a sideshow, but how anyone could choose animals above humans is beyond me. "
The guy had 180 empty seats on the plane because officials wouldn't let them on the plane, also plenty spare seats for other Afghans were offered but not taken.
Animals went in hold where people cannot sit.
Why don't you question why flights left virtually empty?
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