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"Even as recently as last year I would have argued that I was neither and any pics I post are just for fun. However I will admit now that I am probably a part time exhibitionist. It's not something I do all the time but I do like to be looked at as I used to think I was invisible. It's not attention seeking because in my mind rightly or wrongly that has more negative than positive connotations." It's an intetmresting one. People on FAB seem to see "exhibitionist " as the acceptable version of "attention seeker" when in my eyes they are pretty much the same thing. Neither is better or worse than the other. | |||
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"Even as recently as last year I would have argued that I was neither and any pics I post are just for fun. However I will admit now that I am probably a part time exhibitionist. It's not something I do all the time but I do like to be looked at as I used to think I was invisible. It's not attention seeking because in my mind rightly or wrongly that has more negative than positive connotations. It's an intetmresting one. People on FAB seem to see "exhibitionist " as the acceptable version of "attention seeker" when in my eyes they are pretty much the same thing. Neither is better or worse than the other." I'm happy to be called an exhibtionist by others but I would fight my corner over ever being called an attention seeker. To me the latter is all about image and status and neediness and as Posh Spice once told a tabloid editor. There is no such thing as bad press. Attention seeking is an addiction for some. | |||
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"Imo an exhibitionist is someone who likes to display a certain flair in order to revel in appraisal, more of an artlike quality and they give approval to others who display An attention seeker will say or do pretty much anything good or bad in order to be in the li_elight with all focus on them for as long as possible I am neither x" Yeah that just about sums this up | |||
" I think exhibitionism is more care free, and if someone sees a picture or whatever they see it. The fun is in the possibility of being seen, regardless it's it's one person or many. I think attention seeking is more a premeditated thing and you look for validation from others. " Agreed. I also think people really, really don't like being called an attention seeker and see it as being a bad thing. We all, to some extent, seek attention. Some of us more than others ergo attention seeking. It's not a bad thing, sure it might not be universally liked but no person is. I also think it's very subjective. One person's exhibitionist will be another's attention seeker. | |||
" I think exhibitionism is more care free, and if someone sees a picture or whatever they see it. The fun is in the possibility of being seen, regardless it's it's one person or many. I think attention seeking is more a premeditated thing and you look for validation from others. Agreed. I also think people really, really don't like being called an attention seeker and see it as being a bad thing. We all, to some extent, seek attention. Some of us more than others ergo attention seeking. It's not a bad thing, sure it might not be universally liked but no person is. I also think it's very subjective. One person's exhibitionist will be another's attention seeker." See it's strange I see myself on fab as an attention seeker and I don't see it as a bad thing. Be it from posting a picture of my tits or trying to come across as half knowledgeable about something. To me exhibitionism is something else less constrained and less worried about the opinions of others. | |||
"Even as recently as last year I would have argued that I was neither and any pics I post are just for fun. However I will admit now that I am probably a part time exhibitionist. It's not something I do all the time but I do like to be looked at as I used to think I was invisible. It's not attention seeking because in my mind rightly or wrongly that has more negative than positive connotations. It's an intetmresting one. People on FAB seem to see "exhibitionist " as the acceptable version of "attention seeker" when in my eyes they are pretty much the same thing. Neither is better or worse than the other." I agree. There's nothing wrong with seeking attention from people who are happy to give it. | |||
" I think exhibitionism is more care free, and if someone sees a picture or whatever they see it. The fun is in the possibility of being seen, regardless it's it's one person or many. I think attention seeking is more a premeditated thing and you look for validation from others. Agreed. I also think people really, really don't like being called an attention seeker and see it as being a bad thing. We all, to some extent, seek attention. Some of us more than others ergo attention seeking. It's not a bad thing, sure it might not be universally liked but no person is. I also think it's very subjective. One person's exhibitionist will be another's attention seeker. See it's strange I see myself on fab as an attention seeker and I don't see it as a bad thing. Be it from posting a picture of my tits or trying to come across as half knowledgeable about something. To me exhibitionism is something else less constrained and less worried about the opinions of others. " If you post a pic of your tits and you want people to look at them and/or fab them that's one thing that could be classed as exhibitionism or attention seeking depending on how you as the poster want others to see the pic. Attention seeking in a negative context doesn't have to involve the visual aspect at all. An attention seeker nudges their way to the front, ignores whatever other conversation is going on and asks what you think of her tits or his dick. An exhibitionist can exist without comment or acknowledgement from others. Attention seekers need that validation like oxygen. | |||
" I think exhibitionism is more care free, and if someone sees a picture or whatever they see it. The fun is in the possibility of being seen, regardless it's it's one person or many. I think attention seeking is more a premeditated thing and you look for validation from others. Agreed. I also think people really, really don't like being called an attention seeker and see it as being a bad thing. We all, to some extent, seek attention. Some of us more than others ergo attention seeking. It's not a bad thing, sure it might not be universally liked but no person is. I also think it's very subjective. One person's exhibitionist will be another's attention seeker. See it's strange I see myself on fab as an attention seeker and I don't see it as a bad thing. Be it from posting a picture of my tits or trying to come across as half knowledgeable about something. To me exhibitionism is something else less constrained and less worried about the opinions of others. If you post a pic of your tits and you want people to look at them and/or fab them that's one thing that could be classed as exhibitionism or attention seeking depending on how you as the poster want others to see the pic. Attention seeking in a negative context doesn't have to involve the visual aspect at all. An attention seeker nudges their way to the front, ignores whatever other conversation is going on and asks what you think of her tits or his dick. An exhibitionist can exist without comment or acknowledgement from others. Attention seekers need that validation like oxygen. " We all want attention now again and that's not a bad thing. We're all looking for a someone to say a kind word be it about our looks or how our minds works. Else we'd all live in a bubble oblivious to others, which the vast majority of don't. Attention seeking and exhibitionism can be positive or negative things. Attention seeking can be negative for the reasons you stated, exhibitionism can be if that person doesn't care about the appropriateness of their exhibitionism to others. | |||
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" I think exhibitionism is more care free, and if someone sees a picture or whatever they see it. The fun is in the possibility of being seen, regardless it's it's one person or many. I think attention seeking is more a premeditated thing and you look for validation from others. Agreed. I also think people really, really don't like being called an attention seeker and see it as being a bad thing. We all, to some extent, seek attention. Some of us more than others ergo attention seeking. It's not a bad thing, sure it might not be universally liked but no person is. I also think it's very subjective. One person's exhibitionist will be another's attention seeker. See it's strange I see myself on fab as an attention seeker and I don't see it as a bad thing. Be it from posting a picture of my tits or trying to come across as half knowledgeable about something. To me exhibitionism is something else less constrained and less worried about the opinions of others. If you post a pic of your tits and you want people to look at them and/or fab them that's one thing that could be classed as exhibitionism or attention seeking depending on how you as the poster want others to see the pic. Attention seeking in a negative context doesn't have to involve the visual aspect at all. An attention seeker nudges their way to the front, ignores whatever other conversation is going on and asks what you think of her tits or his dick. An exhibitionist can exist without comment or acknowledgement from others. Attention seekers need that validation like oxygen. We all want attention now again and that's not a bad thing. We're all looking for a someone to say a kind word be it about our looks or how our minds works. Else we'd all live in a bubble oblivious to others, which the vast majority of don't. Attention seeking and exhibitionism can be positive or negative things. Attention seeking can be negative for the reasons you stated, exhibitionism can be if that person doesn't care about the appropriateness of their exhibitionism to others. " Agreed. My thoughts on attention seeking are based on experience and it has mostly been negative but I can see that exhibitionism can also be a negative experience for some. | |||
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"Imo an exhibitionist is someone who likes to display a certain flair in order to revel in appraisal, more of an artlike quality and they give approval to others who display An attention seeker will say or do pretty much anything good or bad in order to be in the li_elight with all focus on them for as long as possible I am neither x" That’s a great analogy of both and I would agree with how you worded it | |||
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"Exhibitionism is more physical and visual - flashing, showing photos, being watched having sex etc. Attention seeker is more abstract - creating drama, turning everything around to be about them, being loud and "showy" when out so the focus is on them." I'd agree with this. I (Luke) don't seek attention. I seek to find people who enjoy seeing me exposed. If somebody wouldn't enjoy that (and not many do), I don't feel the need to get them to notice me just for the sake of it. I think exhibitionism is around the enjoyment of the viewer (at least it is for me), whereas attention-seeking is not about any pleasure for anybody else. Naked cleaner, anybody? | |||
"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? That could be good or bad attention seeking, but on the whole I’m not sure what’s wrong with it, unless it becomes toxic. Being an exhibitionist is not dissimilar in my opinion, but equally, isn’t necessarily bad. In addition, I would add, just because people like to seek attention/be an exhibitionist, doesn’t mean they need the validation, maybe they like it, maybe it’s appreciated, but it doesn’t mean it’s needed. " Attention is closely associated with some sort of gain and majority some kind of validation, adoration or exoneration - what if a post is made simply to make a point - When there is nothing to gain or simply needs to be said - how can it be attention seeking. How the intent in which the thread/post is made determines if attention seeking or just simply is. Can't simply rationalise them into attention seeking because it suits. | |||
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"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? That could be good or bad attention seeking, but on the whole I’m not sure what’s wrong with it, unless it becomes toxic. Being an exhibitionist is not dissimilar in my opinion, but equally, isn’t necessarily bad. In addition, I would add, just because people like to seek attention/be an exhibitionist, doesn’t mean they need the validation, maybe they like it, maybe it’s appreciated, but it doesn’t mean it’s needed. Attention is closely associated with some sort of gain and majority some kind of validation, adoration or exoneration - what if a post is made simply to make a point - When there is nothing to gain or simply needs to be said - how can it be attention seeking. How the intent in which the thread/post is made determines if attention seeking or just simply is. Can't simply rationalise them into attention seeking because it suits. " I hear what you’re saying, and I agree to an extent, but surely, if I post a thread, for whatever reason, it’s to get attention, whether it’s comments, feedback, jokes, people’s thoughts? | |||
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"To me they are totally different. I hate being the centre of attention, and due to that I don't enjoy dancing, joining in games with people watching, giving speeches, etc. Anything where people are looking at me like that makes me feel ill. However, I have discovered that I love taking and sharing photos of myself, and in clubs I enjoy walking around in my boxers, or even playing in public. That gives me a bit of a thrill. So I'd say I'm not an attention seeker, but I am an exhibitionist. " I feel similarly. Outside of fab I don't particularly enjoy attention, nor do I seek it. I'm quite introverted. But I've discovered that people looking at me while naked is surprisingly arousing, and I suppose fabs quantify that. 100 fabs means 100 people have looked, and enjoyed. It gives me a thrill. Frankly, I couldn't give a shit about hot pics, they could close that part of the site and I'd still enjoy the fabs because they show me who's looked and enjoyed. It's hard to explain the feeling and some people choose to just judge me instead, but I simply do what gives me pleasure, and it hurts no one else, so I'll keep doing it. I'm an exhibitionist and I'm not ashamed of that. | |||
"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? That could be good or bad attention seeking, but on the whole I’m not sure what’s wrong with it, unless it becomes toxic. Being an exhibitionist is not dissimilar in my opinion, but equally, isn’t necessarily bad. In addition, I would add, just because people like to seek attention/be an exhibitionist, doesn’t mean they need the validation, maybe they like it, maybe it’s appreciated, but it doesn’t mean it’s needed. Attention is closely associated with some sort of gain and majority some kind of validation, adoration or exoneration - what if a post is made simply to make a point - When there is nothing to gain or simply needs to be said - how can it be attention seeking. How the intent in which the thread/post is made determines if attention seeking or just simply is. Can't simply rationalise them into attention seeking because it suits. I hear what you’re saying, and I agree to an extent, but surely, if I post a thread, for whatever reason, it’s to get attention, whether it’s comments, feedback, jokes, people’s thoughts? " I would see you as an exhibitionist FA. You like to show off what gifts you have. You get attention yes but you don't create scenes to get it. You will also highlight other people giving them attention. An attention seeker requires attention and doesn't share. In my humble opinion. | |||
"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? That could be good or bad attention seeking, but on the whole I’m not sure what’s wrong with it, unless it becomes toxic. Being an exhibitionist is not dissimilar in my opinion, but equally, isn’t necessarily bad. In addition, I would add, just because people like to seek attention/be an exhibitionist, doesn’t mean they need the validation, maybe they like it, maybe it’s appreciated, but it doesn’t mean it’s needed. Attention is closely associated with some sort of gain and majority some kind of validation, adoration or exoneration - what if a post is made simply to make a point - When there is nothing to gain or simply needs to be said - how can it be attention seeking. How the intent in which the thread/post is made determines if attention seeking or just simply is. Can't simply rationalise them into attention seeking because it suits. I hear what you’re saying, and I agree to an extent, but surely, if I post a thread, for whatever reason, it’s to get attention, whether it’s comments, feedback, jokes, people’s thoughts? I would see you as an exhibitionist FA. You like to show off what gifts you have. You get attention yes but you don't create scenes to get it. You will also highlight other people giving them attention. An attention seeker requires attention and doesn't share. In my humble opinion. " Thank you, I appreciate this more than you know | |||
"To me they are totally different. I hate being the centre of attention, and due to that I don't enjoy dancing, joining in games with people watching, giving speeches, etc. Anything where people are looking at me like that makes me feel ill. However, I have discovered that I love taking and sharing photos of myself, and in clubs I enjoy walking around in my boxers, or even playing in public. That gives me a bit of a thrill. So I'd say I'm not an attention seeker, but I am an exhibitionist. I feel similarly. Outside of fab I don't particularly enjoy attention, nor do I seek it. I'm quite introverted. But I've discovered that people looking at me while naked is surprisingly arousing, and I suppose fabs quantify that. 100 fabs means 100 people have looked, and enjoyed. It gives me a thrill. Frankly, I couldn't give a shit about hot pics, they could close that part of the site and I'd still enjoy the fabs because they show me who's looked and enjoyed. It's hard to explain the feeling and some people choose to just judge me instead, but I simply do what gives me pleasure, and it hurts no one else, so I'll keep doing it. I'm an exhibitionist and I'm not ashamed of that." Yes. That's exactly me... though I'll never be on the Hot Pics, and I'm still far away from getting 100 fabs But every one I get gives me that same feeling (even more so when they are from someone lovely themselves) | |||
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"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? That could be good or bad attention seeking, but on the whole I’m not sure what’s wrong with it, unless it becomes toxic. Being an exhibitionist is not dissimilar in my opinion, but equally, isn’t necessarily bad. In addition, I would add, just because people like to seek attention/be an exhibitionist, doesn’t mean they need the validation, maybe they like it, maybe it’s appreciated, but it doesn’t mean it’s needed. Attention is closely associated with some sort of gain and majority some kind of validation, adoration or exoneration - what if a post is made simply to make a point - When there is nothing to gain or simply needs to be said - how can it be attention seeking. How the intent in which the thread/post is made determines if attention seeking or just simply is. Can't simply rationalise them into attention seeking because it suits. I hear what you’re saying, and I agree to an extent, but surely, if I post a thread, for whatever reason, it’s to get attention, whether it’s comments, feedback, jokes, people’s thoughts? " I post because I believe it needs to be said or from my experiences that someone may find useful - whether people agree or not or ignore - I do not post anything for any kind of attention - I have strong views on certain things and will voice my opinions and fight certain corners - but again its never for any kind of attention good or bad it is just because I feel it is the right thing to do rather than do nothing - same as I would always call someone out for certain behaviour friend or not xx | |||
"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? That could be good or bad attention seeking, but on the whole I’m not sure what’s wrong with it, unless it becomes toxic. Being an exhibitionist is not dissimilar in my opinion, but equally, isn’t necessarily bad. In addition, I would add, just because people like to seek attention/be an exhibitionist, doesn’t mean they need the validation, maybe they like it, maybe it’s appreciated, but it doesn’t mean it’s needed. Attention is closely associated with some sort of gain and majority some kind of validation, adoration or exoneration - what if a post is made simply to make a point - When there is nothing to gain or simply needs to be said - how can it be attention seeking. How the intent in which the thread/post is made determines if attention seeking or just simply is. Can't simply rationalise them into attention seeking because it suits. I hear what you’re saying, and I agree to an extent, but surely, if I post a thread, for whatever reason, it’s to get attention, whether it’s comments, feedback, jokes, people’s thoughts? I post because I believe it needs to be said or from my experiences that someone may find useful - whether people agree or not or ignore - I do not post anything for any kind of attention - I have strong views on certain things and will voice my opinions and fight certain corners - but again its never for any kind of attention good or bad it is just because I feel it is the right thing to do rather than do nothing - same as I would always call someone out for certain behaviour friend or not xx" So when I post a thread that I think people will find interesting, and I’m curious to hear their thoughts, and to get them thinking, is it attention seeking or not, because I’m awaiting people’s attention? Kind of, am I making sense? (I’m tired and my ducks ate my worms, and neither are in a row!) | |||
"For me, everyone that posts a thread, a pic or a comment, surely you’re seeking attention, purely because you’re putting something out there? " It was your post that was drawing the the association and conclusion that anyone posting to a thread is seeking attention I was simply saying not all | |||
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"I’m doing my own thing, I don’t like being categorised or pigeon holed into one or the other when it comes to exhibitionism or attention I enjoy taking pictures, having fun with photo challenges and sharing images of my body- I’m a confident woman if people perceive that as seeking attention or exhibitionism that also fine but I’m by no means looking for what is essentially a stranger to validate me. Hot pics could be eradicated and I’d still continue to post images I enjoy, if others fab in appreciation so be it, I fab male and female pics I like, I comment on threads where I enjoy the subject, and I compliment those when I genuinely agree with there opinion or visually I like what I see I’m doing me and I always will x" I love your attitude to everything, it’s brilliant | |||
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"I’m doing my own thing, I don’t like being categorised or pigeon holed into one or the other when it comes to exhibitionism or attention I enjoy taking pictures, having fun with photo challenges and sharing images of my body- I’m a confident woman if people perceive that as seeking attention or exhibitionism that also fine but I’m by no means looking for what is essentially a stranger to validate me. Hot pics could be eradicated and I’d still continue to post images I enjoy, if others fab in appreciation so be it, I fab male and female pics I like, I comment on threads where I enjoy the subject, and I compliment those when I genuinely agree with there opinion or visually I like what I see I’m doing me and I always will x I love your attitude to everything, it’s brilliant " Aw thank you lovely x | |||
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"I’m doing my own thing, I don’t like being categorised or pigeon holed into one or the other when it comes to exhibitionism or attention I enjoy taking pictures, having fun with photo challenges and sharing images of my body- I’m a confident woman if people perceive that as seeking attention or exhibitionism that also fine but I’m by no means looking for what is essentially a stranger to validate me. Hot pics could be eradicated and I’d still continue to post images I enjoy, if others fab in appreciation so be it, I fab male and female pics I like, I comment on threads where I enjoy the subject, and I compliment those when I genuinely agree with there opinion or visually I like what I see I’m doing me and I always will x I love your attitude to everything, it’s brilliant Aw thank you lovely x" Get a room. . . And a camera. And a place for me to sit. | |||
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