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"New? Been happening for years. " Agreed. Taking personal responsibility for lack of success is difficult, people find it easier to imagine it's down to external sources so as to protect their ego (sometimes it can be obviously, but quite often not). | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" So is couples telling me off after I’ve just woken up. | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men "Absolutely agree | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" I know what you mean. You are solely responsible if you get a meet or not. The woman on this site are peoples wives/girlfriend/strong independent single woman (because they know what they want and going out to find it) not a lass that cant get sex anywhere else and desperate, its a kink!, adding excitement into life. Some guys are too cock sure and its a turn off. Its different for me though, i dont get meets due to the bad guys on this site. I think i am an acceptation - before there is rage sent my way i am joking lol…. | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree "(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.) Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
Excuse me? Do not think that to call me nuts is a little insulting?"Very insulting | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff So is couples telling me off after I’ve just woken up."  | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" How dare you, you have stolen my future! | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men "Well said  | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
Excuse me? Do not think that to call me nuts is a little insulting?"Maybe he read your profile | |||
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"When I message I ask what turns u off about me? So I may be able to fix it but get no reply’s " Your married | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
Excuse me? Do not think that to call me nuts is a little insulting?
Maybe he read your profile "So what if he did? Still not an acceptable thing to say to someone | |||
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"I’ve seen many people moan about this site and how rubbish it is, guys, girls and couples. But used in the right way - making a decent profile with intriguing pics, being respectful to everyone, then you’ll do much better on here. Get known in the forums, attend socials, go to clubs and get your face seen and personality across. The tools are all there for you to succeed but you’ve got to use them. But to some it’s easier to blame others. K" Agreed, it's very easy to have a moan | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
Excuse me? Do not think that to call me nuts is a little insulting?
Maybe he read your profile
So what if he did? Still not an acceptable thing to say to someone
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no" It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. " I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" I think it’s far from new. It’s obviously harder for guys on here to get meets though as they’re by far the majority of fab members. I fully accept that I’d rarely get a shag on here if I had a penis - ergo there’s not much advice I can give to guys to make themselves stand out when - at my age - I doubt I’d stand out myself. I think it’s very easy for women and couples to give advice on here - we’d get a shag if we had a silhouette for a picture and a profile that said ‘Hi’! (Now there’s an idea!  ) | |||
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"When I message I ask what turns u off about me? So I may be able to fix it but get no reply’s " There is only so much we can do I have accepted noone local finds me attractive hence no meets but at least be polite about it so dehumanising to be ignored by everyone on here and its not for lack of want or trying personally I stick to forums now more accepting | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. " I’ve currently got 1027 messages, and I have read/scanned all of them | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. " There is some control you have over your message. And by and large very few people get so many thousands of messages a day, everyday. Think about: 1. Did they just post a series of pictures? If so, that will draw people to their profile, they will get hundreds of messages 2. Did they just update their status? Same as above 3. What time of day are you messaging? 4. What is your subject line? 5. Are they online? 6. What day of the week is it? 7. What is your avatar? Will it appeal to them based on their profile text? You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
Excuse me? Do not think that to call me nuts is a little insulting?"I think he is trying to have a laugh with you over what is written on your profile | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" I guess this is the female of the couple? If the playing field was level is agree with you but it isn't. | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff So is couples telling me off after I’ve just woken up." | |||
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"Yeay, let's find fault with males again. Almost as attractive as men blaming other men
Absolutely agree
(Sorry OP. A little Hijack.)
Your a bit nuts lol….funky chicken lol!!! I am always up for a laugh but if a date started dropping the funky chicken on a date, i would use that invisible llama and high tail it outta there lol
Excuse me? Do not think that to call me nuts is a little insulting?
I think he is trying to have a laugh with you over what is written on your profile
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. There is some control you have over your message. And by and large very few people get so many thousands of messages a day, everyday. Think about: 1. Did they just post a series of pictures? If so, that will draw people to their profile, they will get hundreds of messages 2. Did they just update their status? Same as above 3. What time of day are you messaging? 4. What is your subject line? 5. Are they online? 6. What day of the week is it? 7. What is your avatar? Will it appeal to them based on their profile text? You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance "So you agree it’s not entire up to the person then? Because at first you said “ It is your fault however that you let it grind you down.” Now you’ve said “ You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance” | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. There is some control you have over your message. And by and large very few people get so many thousands of messages a day, everyday. Think about: 1. Did they just post a series of pictures? If so, that will draw people to their profile, they will get hundreds of messages 2. Did they just update their status? Same as above 3. What time of day are you messaging? 4. What is your subject line? 5. Are they online? 6. What day of the week is it? 7. What is your avatar? Will it appeal to them based on their profile text? You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance
So you agree it’s not entire up to the person then?
Because at first you said “ It is your fault however that you let it grind you down.”
Now you’ve said “ You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance”"I said. As you quoted “it’s your fault that you let it grind you down” end quote. I don’t think I apportioned blame for not having a message read. It’s nobodies fault if YOU don’t get a reply or get deleted. You can’t fault someone for making a choice. YOU cannot fault other men messaging them. But if you let it get to YOU. Then that is on you. | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. There is some control you have over your message. And by and large very few people get so many thousands of messages a day, everyday. Think about: 1. Did they just post a series of pictures? If so, that will draw people to their profile, they will get hundreds of messages 2. Did they just update their status? Same as above 3. What time of day are you messaging? 4. What is your subject line? 5. Are they online? 6. What day of the week is it? 7. What is your avatar? Will it appeal to them based on their profile text? You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance
So you agree it’s not entire up to the person then?
Because at first you said “ It is your fault however that you let it grind you down.”
Now you’ve said “ You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance”
I said. As you quoted “it’s your fault that you let it grind you down” end quote. I don’t think I apportioned blame for not having a message read. It’s nobodies fault if YOU don’t get a reply or get deleted. You can’t fault someone for making a choice. YOU cannot fault other men messaging them.
But if you let it get to YOU. Then that is on you. "Ah right I thought you meant it’s your fault entirely, not it’s your fault for letting it get you down. The post just strikes a nerve with me. Imagine telling a guy with mental health problems, social anxiety, born quite short and not very attractive, that it’s entirely his fault he doesn’t get replies and he just needs to try harder | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. There is some control you have over your message. And by and large very few people get so many thousands of messages a day, everyday. Think about: 1. Did they just post a series of pictures? If so, that will draw people to their profile, they will get hundreds of messages 2. Did they just update their status? Same as above 3. What time of day are you messaging? 4. What is your subject line? 5. Are they online? 6. What day of the week is it? 7. What is your avatar? Will it appeal to them based on their profile text? You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance
So you agree it’s not entire up to the person then?
Because at first you said “ It is your fault however that you let it grind you down.”
Now you’ve said “ You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance”
I said. As you quoted “it’s your fault that you let it grind you down” end quote. I don’t think I apportioned blame for not having a message read. It’s nobodies fault if YOU don’t get a reply or get deleted. You can’t fault someone for making a choice. YOU cannot fault other men messaging them.
But if you let it get to YOU. Then that is on you.
Ah right I thought you meant it’s your fault entirely, not it’s your fault for letting it get you down.
The post just strikes a nerve with me.
Imagine telling a guy with mental health problems, social anxiety, born quite short and not very attractive, that it’s entirely his fault he doesn’t get replies and he just needs to try harder "But he does need to try harder. What’s the alternative? That he doesn’t? What then? A pity fuck? I am in no way having a go at you, at all. I weigh 60kgs, have a shaved head, pectus excavatum, can’t accommodate as I am a carer. All of these things affect my self esteem. So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. | |||
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" Imagine telling a guy with mental health problems, social anxiety, born quite short and not very attractive, that it’s entirely his fault he doesn’t get replies and he just needs to try harder " I don't get this, do you mean we need to take everything about his life into account and ignore a shit message? | |||
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"Easily said when your not in that position Can guys do more to improve their chances? Yes Is it our fault that our message goes unread because it’s buried up 100s of “faf?” Messages from blank profiles? No Is it also our fault that we have to jump through endless hoops to prove we’re genuine because of the mass influx of keyboard wankers and fake profile? Also no It is your fault however that you let it grind you down. You can go to a club, you can try finding someone outside of the internet. I never message first and I do okay. A single man that can’t accommodate. A single man is neither buff or good looking with a shaved head. I genuinely do not understand how men find it so hard on here. If you make fab a chore, or hang all your hopes on it, it will punish you. I’d love someone to explain to me how messages not getting read because of the level of messages get sent is my fault. How do I fix that? Like I said, there’s stuff guys can do to help, like clubs, socials etc But to say it’s entirely their fault isn’t true. There’s an element of luck in everything in life. From being born tall, dark and handsome, to bring extremely charismatic or funny, and even as far as your message being randomly picked out of 1000 other messages. There is some control you have over your message. And by and large very few people get so many thousands of messages a day, everyday. Think about: 1. Did they just post a series of pictures? If so, that will draw people to their profile, they will get hundreds of messages 2. Did they just update their status? Same as above 3. What time of day are you messaging? 4. What is your subject line? 5. Are they online? 6. What day of the week is it? 7. What is your avatar? Will it appeal to them based on their profile text? You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance
So you agree it’s not entire up to the person then?
Because at first you said “ It is your fault however that you let it grind you down.”
Now you’ve said “ You cannot ever guarantee that your message will be read, but you can adjust your messaging behaviour to give it a better chance”
I said. As you quoted “it’s your fault that you let it grind you down” end quote. I don’t think I apportioned blame for not having a message read. It’s nobodies fault if YOU don’t get a reply or get deleted. You can’t fault someone for making a choice. YOU cannot fault other men messaging them.
But if you let it get to YOU. Then that is on you.
Ah right I thought you meant it’s your fault entirely, not it’s your fault for letting it get you down.
The post just strikes a nerve with me.
Imagine telling a guy with mental health problems, social anxiety, born quite short and not very attractive, that it’s entirely his fault he doesn’t get replies and he just needs to try harder
But he does need to try harder. What’s the alternative? That he doesn’t? What then? A pity fuck? I am in no way having a go at you, at all. I weigh 60kgs, have a shaved head, pectus excavatum, can’t accommodate as I am a carer. All of these things affect my self esteem.
So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. "Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. " If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. " I’m gonna quote this to the next disabled person I see struggling. Imagine it. “It’s your choice to be in that wheel chair, there’s no such thing as bad luck, that d*unk driver that hit you was exactly where he was meant to be, and you made the decision to be there, so don’t blame anyone but yourself for this. You create your own luck.” | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. I’m gonna quote this to the next disabled person I see struggling. Imagine it. “It’s your choice to be in that wheel chair, there’s no such thing as bad luck, that d*unk driver that hit you was exactly where he was meant to be, and you made the decision to be there, so don’t blame anyone but yourself for this. You create your own luck.”" You ability to contextualise and understand what I am saying is governed by the narrative you want to read. In the first instance. Genetics decided that person would be in a wheelchair (unless there was an accident) not “luck”. Luck can be used interchangeably with fate and destiny, things that are attributed to Gods, so are you saying that God decided that then? There is no difference in the belief in god and the belief in luck. Neither is a science. Genetics is. It’s no ones fault. It’s genetics. Your second scenario is based on two active choices. One which the driver made and one which the fatality made. It is not by luck that those two things collided. It is by design. Or are you saying that for some random reason the person run over decided to just leave the house and be somewhere and that the idiot that climbed in his car didn’t have his/her decision decided by poor judgement induced by alcohol. It’s up to you chap. You can let go of all the control in your life and trust/blame luck or you can take control, where it is feasible, to do so and steer your own ship. | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. " So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. " I mean we can respect it, doesn’t mean it’s not nonsense You roll a dice, you have a 1/6 chance of guessing it right. If you get it right the first time that’s what we call “luck” You can harvest that, or create your own luck in that scenario. It’s purely by chance you get it right. Obviously hard work trumps all. But the idea that luck doesn’t exist is factually wrong. Now you might wanna get all deep and spiritual about what luck is and try to prove your point. But it’s none sense Luck is just being in the right place, at the right time, with the right circumstances. It’s when things fall in your favour that no one else could control. Born with a brain tumour? That’s bad luck Born extremely handsome? That’s good luck I’d be interested to hear more of your side, but so far I’m not convinced, because we have real world examples all around us if people being lucky. | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. " Oh dear. You can't refute my points, so you make up an entirely fatuous one that has nothing to do with this discussion and pretend to think I was talking about that instead. How very transparent. Have you looked up the just-world fallacy yet? | |||
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"Whilst I agree with taking personal responsibility and not blaming others, there is an element of truth in it, I have definitely lost a little faith in men and their behaviour, because of the actions of a few on here. " Isn't that true of all, not just males? I know you're speaking from your own experiences but isn't that just perpetuating the anti male ethos - not defending the behaviour of some guys. Many females and couples are also responsible for reprehensible behaviour. Just before a get the mob lynching and hate mail - nothing against the poster but just don't agree entirely with the post | |||
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"Whilst I agree with taking personal responsibility and not blaming others, there is an element of truth in it, I have definitely lost a little faith in men and their behaviour, because of the actions of a few on here. Isn't that true of all, not just males? I know you're speaking from your own experiences but isn't that just perpetuating the anti male ethos - not defending the behaviour of some guys. Many females and couples are also responsible for reprehensible behaviour. Just before a get the mob lynching and hate mail - nothing against the poster but just don't agree entirely with the post "I hear what you’re saying, but the behaviour of men in my life, has meant that I don’t trust men, and the way some behave on fab, well it reinforces it. I’ve rarely had the same experiences with couples/women in real life, or on here. | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. I mean we can respect it, doesn’t mean it’s not nonsense You roll a dice, you have a 1/6 chance of guessing it right. If you get it right the first time that’s what we call “luck” You can harvest that, or create your own luck in that scenario. It’s purely by chance you get it right. Obviously hard work trumps all. But the idea that luck doesn’t exist is factually wrong. Now you might wanna get all deep and spiritual about what luck is and try to prove your point. But it’s none sense Luck is just being in the right place, at the right time, with the right circumstances. It’s when things fall in your favour that no one else could control. Born with a brain tumour? That’s bad luck Born extremely handsome? That’s good luck I’d be interested to hear more of your side, but so far I’m not convinced, because we have real world examples all around us if people being lucky. " The dice role is made on a mathematical probability. That is not luck. You choose (choice is the word) what you think that number will be. That choice is with the knowledge that you have a 1/6 of getting it right. Luck does not play a part. Mathematics and choice play a part. No mysterious force influences this. If luck exists then all things intangible must exist right? Like Love for example. Love exists doesn’t it? That’s intangible? Luck is intangible quid pro quo it exists. But love and luck only share an intangible nature. Love is based around chemicals released into your body to build desire or want based on the very nature of who you are; a biological form that requires society to exist and is pre-programmed to “survive” either through procreation or legacy (survival here being that something will exist after you are gone). “Luck” is really “choice”, sometimes subconscious, sometimes conscious but the result of a dice roll or a lottery ticket is dependent upon you making a choice and choosing (or letting an algorithm choose) a number or number. The probability of getting the right number/a is mathematics. Born with a brain tumour? That’s genetics. Luck isn’t punishing you, the environmental and social conditions that you or your forbearers lived through have determined your genetics, not luck. It’s not karma. It’s not punishment from the gods. It’s not luck. It’s a chemical/biological process that has occurred in your ancestry that has been influenced through choice (where to live, what food to eat, who to mate with etc etc). Choices were made long ago (subconsciously or for practical good reasons) and that has determined your genetics. Not luck. Born handsome. Same as above. Just a positive outcome of choice and not a negative outcome of choice. It is important to note that we cannot control all of the choices we have to make in this life, and that we are also beholden to other peoples choices to a degree. But that isn’t luck. But there are many things we can control and rather than focussing on the things we cannot control, isn’t it better to live a life where we accept responsibility for who we are and accept ourselves for that and not blame something that does not exist. If you can prove to me, through just one example that cannot be explained either by present or past choices either consciously or subconsciously made that luck exists. I will believe you. But I am afraid that circumstance and choice will always prove that luck does not exist. | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. Oh dear. You can't refute my points, so you make up an entirely fatuous one that has nothing to do with this discussion and pretend to think I was talking about that instead. How very transparent. Have you looked up the just-world fallacy yet? " You are rather aggressive aren’t you? You believe in luck. I do not. I do not believe in karma or that “people get what they deserve”, I’ve not stated that in any of my comments. I have simply stated that luck does not exist and proved that either subconsciously or consciously people have made choices that have affected your life. “Making your own luck” in terms of what you can effectively control is essentially “choice” or would you have me believe that choice in life does not matter and that we are essentially beholden to luck, fate and destiny? | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. I mean we can respect it, doesn’t mean it’s not nonsense You roll a dice, you have a 1/6 chance of guessing it right. If you get it right the first time that’s what we call “luck” You can harvest that, or create your own luck in that scenario. It’s purely by chance you get it right. Obviously hard work trumps all. But the idea that luck doesn’t exist is factually wrong. Now you might wanna get all deep and spiritual about what luck is and try to prove your point. But it’s none sense Luck is just being in the right place, at the right time, with the right circumstances. It’s when things fall in your favour that no one else could control. Born with a brain tumour? That’s bad luck Born extremely handsome? That’s good luck I’d be interested to hear more of your side, but so far I’m not convinced, because we have real world examples all around us if people being lucky. The dice role is made on a mathematical probability. That is not luck. You choose (choice is the word) what you think that number will be. That choice is with the knowledge that you have a 1/6 of getting it right. Luck does not play a part. Mathematics and choice play a part. No mysterious force influences this. If luck exists then all things intangible must exist right? Like Love for example. Love exists doesn’t it? That’s intangible? Luck is intangible quid pro quo it exists. But love and luck only share an intangible nature. Love is based around chemicals released into your body to build desire or want based on the very nature of who you are; a biological form that requires society to exist and is pre-programmed to “survive” either through procreation or legacy (survival here being that something will exist after you are gone). “Luck” is really “choice”, sometimes subconscious, sometimes conscious but the result of a dice roll or a lottery ticket is dependent upon you making a choice and choosing (or letting an algorithm choose) a number or number. The probability of getting the right number/a is mathematics. Born with a brain tumour? That’s genetics. Luck isn’t punishing you, the environmental and social conditions that you or your forbearers lived through have determined your genetics, not luck. It’s not karma. It’s not punishment from the gods. It’s not luck. It’s a chemical/biological process that has occurred in your ancestry that has been influenced through choice (where to live, what food to eat, who to mate with etc etc). Choices were made long ago (subconsciously or for practical good reasons) and that has determined your genetics. Not luck. Born handsome. Same as above. Just a positive outcome of choice and not a negative outcome of choice. It is important to note that we cannot control all of the choices we have to make in this life, and that we are also beholden to other peoples choices to a degree. But that isn’t luck. But there are many things we can control and rather than focussing on the things we cannot control, isn’t it better to live a life where we accept responsibility for who we are and accept ourselves for that and not blame something that does not exist. If you can prove to me, through just one example that cannot be explained either by present or past choices either consciously or subconsciously made that luck exists. I will believe you. But I am afraid that circumstance and choice will always prove that luck does not exist. " I think our understanding of the word luck is where we bashing heads You seem to think I mean “luck” as in some mystical force which acts on things. That’s not what I mean. Luck is purely when an outcome that you don’t control is beneficial or not. So for example. Being born in a bad place. Maybe North Korea. That’s bad luck because you had no choice in the matter. Equally. Someone born into a rich family in the UK. That’s good luck. I don’t think luck exists as some mystical universal force. Like you can increase it or decrease it. I do however believe luck exists in that many parts of our life no one has any control over. It’s purely out of chance, or luck, whether they benefit us or not. To say luck doesn’t exist would mean that someone born with a brain tumour could have done something to prevent that. Which clearly isn’t the case. They just got unlucky | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. I mean we can respect it, doesn’t mean it’s not nonsense You roll a dice, you have a 1/6 chance of guessing it right. If you get it right the first time that’s what we call “luck” You can harvest that, or create your own luck in that scenario. It’s purely by chance you get it right. Obviously hard work trumps all. But the idea that luck doesn’t exist is factually wrong. Now you might wanna get all deep and spiritual about what luck is and try to prove your point. But it’s none sense Luck is just being in the right place, at the right time, with the right circumstances. It’s when things fall in your favour that no one else could control. Born with a brain tumour? That’s bad luck Born extremely handsome? That’s good luck I’d be interested to hear more of your side, but so far I’m not convinced, because we have real world examples all around us if people being lucky. The dice role is made on a mathematical probability. That is not luck. You choose (choice is the word) what you think that number will be. That choice is with the knowledge that you have a 1/6 of getting it right. Luck does not play a part. Mathematics and choice play a part. No mysterious force influences this. If luck exists then all things intangible must exist right? Like Love for example. Love exists doesn’t it? That’s intangible? Luck is intangible quid pro quo it exists. But love and luck only share an intangible nature. Love is based around chemicals released into your body to build desire or want based on the very nature of who you are; a biological form that requires society to exist and is pre-programmed to “survive” either through procreation or legacy (survival here being that something will exist after you are gone). “Luck” is really “choice”, sometimes subconscious, sometimes conscious but the result of a dice roll or a lottery ticket is dependent upon you making a choice and choosing (or letting an algorithm choose) a number or number. The probability of getting the right number/a is mathematics. Born with a brain tumour? That’s genetics. Luck isn’t punishing you, the environmental and social conditions that you or your forbearers lived through have determined your genetics, not luck. It’s not karma. It’s not punishment from the gods. It’s not luck. It’s a chemical/biological process that has occurred in your ancestry that has been influenced through choice (where to live, what food to eat, who to mate with etc etc). Choices were made long ago (subconsciously or for practical good reasons) and that has determined your genetics. Not luck. Born handsome. Same as above. Just a positive outcome of choice and not a negative outcome of choice. It is important to note that we cannot control all of the choices we have to make in this life, and that we are also beholden to other peoples choices to a degree. But that isn’t luck. But there are many things we can control and rather than focussing on the things we cannot control, isn’t it better to live a life where we accept responsibility for who we are and accept ourselves for that and not blame something that does not exist. If you can prove to me, through just one example that cannot be explained either by present or past choices either consciously or subconsciously made that luck exists. I will believe you. But I am afraid that circumstance and choice will always prove that luck does not exist. I think our understanding of the word luck is where we bashing heads You seem to think I mean “luck” as in some mystical force which acts on things. That’s not what I mean. Luck is purely when an outcome that you don’t control is beneficial or not. So for example. Being born in a bad place. Maybe North Korea. That’s bad luck because you had no choice in the matter. Equally. Someone born into a rich family in the UK. That’s good luck. I don’t think luck exists as some mystical universal force. Like you can increase it or decrease it. I do however believe luck exists in that many parts of our life no one has any control over. It’s purely out of chance, or luck, whether they benefit us or not. To say luck doesn’t exist would mean that someone born with a brain tumour could have done something to prevent that. Which clearly isn’t the case. They just got unlucky " But choices were made. If you were born in NKorea it’s because of a series of events that led to that occurring. As with a brain tumour. As I say, often choices are beyond our control where we disagree, perhaps, I do not wish to put words in your mouth, is what we call the consequence of those choices, good or bad luck. To me that is intangible and inexplicable, if we trusted to luck we wouldn’t have sequenced dna to help us find cures for things, we would just accept that sometimes you are lucky. Sometimes you are not | |||
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"Ding ding ding! There we have it. "You make your own luck." Poisonous and revolting rubbish. If you don't know what the just-world fallacy is, you really need to look it up. Disgusting. So you believe in the Gods, horoscopes and the twists of fate? That’s cool I can respect that. I respect your belief. It’s a shame that you cannot respect mine, which is simple; I do not believe in luck. I mean we can respect it, doesn’t mean it’s not nonsense You roll a dice, you have a 1/6 chance of guessing it right. If you get it right the first time that’s what we call “luck” You can harvest that, or create your own luck in that scenario. It’s purely by chance you get it right. Obviously hard work trumps all. But the idea that luck doesn’t exist is factually wrong. Now you might wanna get all deep and spiritual about what luck is and try to prove your point. But it’s none sense Luck is just being in the right place, at the right time, with the right circumstances. It’s when things fall in your favour that no one else could control. Born with a brain tumour? That’s bad luck Born extremely handsome? That’s good luck I’d be interested to hear more of your side, but so far I’m not convinced, because we have real world examples all around us if people being lucky. The dice role is made on a mathematical probability. That is not luck. You choose (choice is the word) what you think that number will be. That choice is with the knowledge that you have a 1/6 of getting it right. Luck does not play a part. Mathematics and choice play a part. No mysterious force influences this. If luck exists then all things intangible must exist right? Like Love for example. Love exists doesn’t it? That’s intangible? Luck is intangible quid pro quo it exists. But love and luck only share an intangible nature. Love is based around chemicals released into your body to build desire or want based on the very nature of who you are; a biological form that requires society to exist and is pre-programmed to “survive” either through procreation or legacy (survival here being that something will exist after you are gone). “Luck” is really “choice”, sometimes subconscious, sometimes conscious but the result of a dice roll or a lottery ticket is dependent upon you making a choice and choosing (or letting an algorithm choose) a number or number. The probability of getting the right number/a is mathematics. Born with a brain tumour? That’s genetics. Luck isn’t punishing you, the environmental and social conditions that you or your forbearers lived through have determined your genetics, not luck. It’s not karma. It’s not punishment from the gods. It’s not luck. It’s a chemical/biological process that has occurred in your ancestry that has been influenced through choice (where to live, what food to eat, who to mate with etc etc). Choices were made long ago (subconsciously or for practical good reasons) and that has determined your genetics. Not luck. Born handsome. Same as above. Just a positive outcome of choice and not a negative outcome of choice. It is important to note that we cannot control all of the choices we have to make in this life, and that we are also beholden to other peoples choices to a degree. But that isn’t luck. But there are many things we can control and rather than focussing on the things we cannot control, isn’t it better to live a life where we accept responsibility for who we are and accept ourselves for that and not blame something that does not exist. If you can prove to me, through just one example that cannot be explained either by present or past choices either consciously or subconsciously made that luck exists. I will believe you. But I am afraid that circumstance and choice will always prove that luck does not exist. I think our understanding of the word luck is where we bashing heads You seem to think I mean “luck” as in some mystical force which acts on things. That’s not what I mean. Luck is purely when an outcome that you don’t control is beneficial or not. So for example. Being born in a bad place. Maybe North Korea. That’s bad luck because you had no choice in the matter. Equally. Someone born into a rich family in the UK. That’s good luck. I don’t think luck exists as some mystical universal force. Like you can increase it or decrease it. I do however believe luck exists in that many parts of our life no one has any control over. It’s purely out of chance, or luck, whether they benefit us or not. To say luck doesn’t exist would mean that someone born with a brain tumour could have done something to prevent that. Which clearly isn’t the case. They just got unlucky But choices were made. If you were born in NKorea it’s because of a series of events that led to that occurring. As with a brain tumour. As I say, often choices are beyond our control where we disagree, perhaps, I do not wish to put words in your mouth, is what we call the consequence of those choices, good or bad luck. To me that is intangible and inexplicable, if we trusted to luck we wouldn’t have sequenced dna to help us find cures for things, we would just accept that sometimes you are lucky. Sometimes you are not" No I just think our understand of luck is different. I think if you can’t control it yourself, it’s down to luck. So yeah, someone made the choice to have a baby in North Korea, so it’s not unlucky to them that their baby was born there. It was a choice But for the baby, they had no choice, so for them it’s a case of luck. I think we just have different views on the word itself But we do both agree, overall, hard work pays off more then luck. You can be born into a rich family in the UK and ruin your life with drugs. You could be born into a poor country and work your arse off to make a life for yourself. The thread just strikes a nerve with me because sadly there’s guts out there thaf just aren’t attractive. It’s no fault of their own. They didn’t ask to be born looking like that. They’ll naturally struggle way more on here than a good looking guy. And I just wish we would be a little more understanding. It’s gotta crush a guys heart seeing a thread like this if he’s really trying his best but he’s been given a shitty roll of the dice in life. Being told it’s basically his fault. Everyone on fabs is all about acceptance and being nice, until you talk about single guys. Then the tone changes. 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". But I’m glad we’re at least somewhere closer to understanding eachother. And I’m glad we can agree on something. Hard work pays off" Trust me chap. I am one of those “not good looking guys”. The one that avoids torso Tuesday threads and the like. I do what I can to affect the way people view me. And I also do what I can to accept myself as I am, part of that is understanding what and who am I and why that is. If I attributed that to luck I would lose “ownership” of that knowledge which I posit would make me feel worse. I own me. That’s what counts. I am responsible for my behaviour and actions. That’s my measure. | |||
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"Whilst I agree with taking personal responsibility and not blaming others, there is an element of truth in it, I have definitely lost a little faith in men and their behaviour, because of the actions of a few on here. Isn't that true of all, not just males? I know you're speaking from your own experiences but isn't that just perpetuating the anti male ethos - not defending the behaviour of some guys. Many females and couples are also responsible for reprehensible behaviour. Just before a get the mob lynching and hate mail - nothing against the poster but just don't agree entirely with the post
I hear what you’re saying, but the behaviour of men in my life, has meant that I don’t trust men, and the way some behave on fab, well it reinforces it.
I’ve rarely had the same experiences with couples/women in real life, or on here. "My thoughts are with you and I understand, like yourself there are many others I'm sure are the same. Like many other posts it is good to share these but unfortunately doing so can skew opinion with bias - some guys becomes all guys and yes many are tarred with the same brush many others are deserving. I get accused of generalising but there is good and bad in all groups - like yourself there have been many over the years that cause you to loose faith, our demgraph has always been couples and solo females, not solo guys. So from our experiences has been from different groups from a different perspective. Again I hear you and understand where you're coming from. | |||
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"Whilst I agree with taking personal responsibility and not blaming others, there is an element of truth in it, I have definitely lost a little faith in men and their behaviour, because of the actions of a few on here. Isn't that true of all, not just males? I know you're speaking from your own experiences but isn't that just perpetuating the anti male ethos - not defending the behaviour of some guys. Many females and couples are also responsible for reprehensible behaviour. Just before a get the mob lynching and hate mail - nothing against the poster but just don't agree entirely with the post
I hear what you’re saying, but the behaviour of men in my life, has meant that I don’t trust men, and the way some behave on fab, well it reinforces it.
I’ve rarely had the same experiences with couples/women in real life, or on here.
My thoughts are with you and I understand, like yourself there are many others I'm sure are the same. Like many other posts it is good to share these but unfortunately doing so can skew opinion with bias - some guys becomes all guys and yes many are tarred with the same brush many others are deserving.
I get accused of generalising but there is good and bad in all groups - like yourself there have been many over the years that cause you to loose faith, our demgraph has always been couples and solo females, not solo guys. So from our experiences has been from different groups from a different perspective.
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". But I’m glad we’re at least somewhere closer to understanding eachother. And I’m glad we can agree on something. Hard work pays off Trust me chap. I am one of those “not good looking guys”. The one that avoids torso Tuesday threads and the like. I do what I can to affect the way people view me. And I also do what I can to accept myself as I am, part of that is understanding what and who am I and why that is. If I attributed that to luck I would lose “ownership” of that knowledge which I posit would make me feel worse. I own me. That’s what counts. I am responsible for my behaviour and actions. That’s my measure. " Decent looking Good body Huge dick You’re probably the worst guy to give advice on these kinda threads because however you wanna frame it, most people will agree that you probably fall within the top 5% of men on here. Could even say you’ve been fairly lucky with the meat hog you got there  | |||
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". But I’m glad we’re at least somewhere closer to understanding eachother. And I’m glad we can agree on something. Hard work pays off Trust me chap. I am one of those “not good looking guys”. The one that avoids torso Tuesday threads and the like. I do what I can to affect the way people view me. And I also do what I can to accept myself as I am, part of that is understanding what and who am I and why that is. If I attributed that to luck I would lose “ownership” of that knowledge which I posit would make me feel worse. I own me. That’s what counts. I am responsible for my behaviour and actions. That’s my measure. Decent looking Good body Huge dick You’re probably the worst guy to give advice on these kinda threads because however you wanna frame it, most people will agree that you probably fall within the top 5% of men on here. Could even say you’ve been fairly lucky with the meat hog you got there "Decent looking? Really? Balding, drawn face, pale skin, ginger beard. Good body? I weigh 60kgs and have a concave chest. Most men’s wrists are thicker than my thighs, the only thing I like about my body is I have good skin. Woop! Huge dick. I am skinny, very skinny so everything looks big on me, and chap, the size of your plonker is seldom the reason why you get a meet and if it is, trust me, you don’t want that meet. So… you were saying? I put effort into my profile and pics. I work hard to attract people on fab, if I am attracted to them. Do I have full “this is me” pictures in private. Oh yes. What happens when I send them? Silence. A choice was made. My shop window may look okay, but round the back it’s carnage | |||
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". But I’m glad we’re at least somewhere closer to understanding eachother. And I’m glad we can agree on something. Hard work pays off Trust me chap. I am one of those “not good looking guys”. The one that avoids torso Tuesday threads and the like. I do what I can to affect the way people view me. And I also do what I can to accept myself as I am, part of that is understanding what and who am I and why that is. If I attributed that to luck I would lose “ownership” of that knowledge which I posit would make me feel worse. I own me. That’s what counts. I am responsible for my behaviour and actions. That’s my measure. Decent looking Good body Huge dick You’re probably the worst guy to give advice on these kinda threads because however you wanna frame it, most people will agree that you probably fall within the top 5% of men on here. Could even say you’ve been fairly lucky with the meat hog you got there
Decent looking? Really? Balding, drawn face, pale skin, ginger beard.
Good body? I weigh 60kgs and have a concave chest. Most men’s wrists are thicker than my thighs, the only thing I like about my body is I have good skin. Woop!
Huge dick. I am skinny, very skinny so everything looks big on me, and chap, the size of your plonker is seldom the reason why you get a meet and if it is, trust me, you don’t want that meet.
So… you were saying? I put effort into my profile and pics. I work hard to attract people on fab, if I am attracted to them. Do I have full “this is me” pictures in private. Oh yes. What happens when I send them? Silence. A choice was made. My shop window may look okay, but round the back it’s carnage "Your way too hard on yourself. Your profile easily falls into the top 5% of active profiles on here. Top 1% if we’re including blank profiles The hog is big. The body is decent and I personally think you look good too. You’ve got literally every advantage many guys on here dream of having and your on a thread talking about how luck doesn’t exist. It’s comical to the point I dunno if you’ve been winding us up the whole time. This is like when someone born into money tells poor people they just need to work harder. They’ve no idea the level of privilege they’re granted through luck. Don’t be so hard on yourself man. Trust me. Most women on here would absolutely be peaked in interest looking at your profile. I’m sure many would comment and agree if they saw this. You really are your biggest critic. I know a good looking guy when I see one, I know what a good body looks like and although I’m only slightly bi, I absolutely know a good looking meat hog when I see one | |||
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"It is true that if all the guys that are disrespectful or just on the site for an instashag suddenly disappeared then mailboxes would be less busy so the remaining guys would get a better shot. So in this respect their efforts are being hampered. But other men are getting action on this site so it's not the whole story. " This says it well. | |||
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". But I’m glad we’re at least somewhere closer to understanding eachother. And I’m glad we can agree on something. Hard work pays off Trust me chap. I am one of those “not good looking guys”. The one that avoids torso Tuesday threads and the like. I do what I can to affect the way people view me. And I also do what I can to accept myself as I am, part of that is understanding what and who am I and why that is. If I attributed that to luck I would lose “ownership” of that knowledge which I posit would make me feel worse. I own me. That’s what counts. I am responsible for my behaviour and actions. That’s my measure. Decent looking Good body Huge dick You’re probably the worst guy to give advice on these kinda threads because however you wanna frame it, most people will agree that you probably fall within the top 5% of men on here. Could even say you’ve been fairly lucky with the meat hog you got there
Decent looking? Really? Balding, drawn face, pale skin, ginger beard.
Good body? I weigh 60kgs and have a concave chest. Most men’s wrists are thicker than my thighs, the only thing I like about my body is I have good skin. Woop!
Huge dick. I am skinny, very skinny so everything looks big on me, and chap, the size of your plonker is seldom the reason why you get a meet and if it is, trust me, you don’t want that meet.
So… you were saying? I put effort into my profile and pics. I work hard to attract people on fab, if I am attracted to them. Do I have full “this is me” pictures in private. Oh yes. What happens when I send them? Silence. A choice was made. My shop window may look okay, but round the back it’s carnage
Your way too hard on yourself. Your profile easily falls into the top 5% of active profiles on here. Top 1% if we’re including blank profiles
The hog is big. The body is decent and I personally think you look good too.
You’ve got literally every advantage many guys on here dream of having and your on a thread talking about how luck doesn’t exist. It’s comical to the point I dunno if you’ve been winding us up the whole time.
This is like when someone born into money tells poor people they just need to work harder. They’ve no idea the level of privilege they’re granted through luck.
Don’t be so hard on yourself man. Trust me. Most women on here would absolutely be peaked in interest looking at your profile. I’m sure many would comment and agree if they saw this. You really are your biggest critic. I know a good looking guy when I see one, I know what a good body looks like and although I’m only slightly bi, I absolutely know a good looking meat hog when I see one "Said the man with a body like yours….. I would swap my cock for the ability to gain weight, grow a full head of hair and get rid of the 2 inch divot in my chest. The point is you are thinking this is about luck. And it really isn’t, one day I hope that this will be proven to you. | |||
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". But I’m glad we’re at least somewhere closer to understanding eachother. And I’m glad we can agree on something. Hard work pays off Trust me chap. I am one of those “not good looking guys”. The one that avoids torso Tuesday threads and the like. I do what I can to affect the way people view me. And I also do what I can to accept myself as I am, part of that is understanding what and who am I and why that is. If I attributed that to luck I would lose “ownership” of that knowledge which I posit would make me feel worse. I own me. That’s what counts. I am responsible for my behaviour and actions. That’s my measure. Decent looking Good body Huge dick You’re probably the worst guy to give advice on these kinda threads because however you wanna frame it, most people will agree that you probably fall within the top 5% of men on here. Could even say you’ve been fairly lucky with the meat hog you got there
Decent looking? Really? Balding, drawn face, pale skin, ginger beard.
Good body? I weigh 60kgs and have a concave chest. Most men’s wrists are thicker than my thighs, the only thing I like about my body is I have good skin. Woop!
Huge dick. I am skinny, very skinny so everything looks big on me, and chap, the size of your plonker is seldom the reason why you get a meet and if it is, trust me, you don’t want that meet.
So… you were saying? I put effort into my profile and pics. I work hard to attract people on fab, if I am attracted to them. Do I have full “this is me” pictures in private. Oh yes. What happens when I send them? Silence. A choice was made. My shop window may look okay, but round the back it’s carnage
Your way too hard on yourself. Your profile easily falls into the top 5% of active profiles on here. Top 1% if we’re including blank profiles
The hog is big. The body is decent and I personally think you look good too.
You’ve got literally every advantage many guys on here dream of having and your on a thread talking about how luck doesn’t exist. It’s comical to the point I dunno if you’ve been winding us up the whole time.
This is like when someone born into money tells poor people they just need to work harder. They’ve no idea the level of privilege they’re granted through luck.
Don’t be so hard on yourself man. Trust me. Most women on here would absolutely be peaked in interest looking at your profile. I’m sure many would comment and agree if they saw this. You really are your biggest critic. I know a good looking guy when I see one, I know what a good body looks like and although I’m only slightly bi, I absolutely know a good looking meat hog when I see one
Said the man with a body like yours….. I would swap my cock for the ability to gain weight, grow a full head of hair and get rid of the 2 inch divot in my chest.
The point is you are thinking this is about luck. And it really isn’t, one day I hope that this will be proven to you. "I don’t think it’s about luck, I just refuse to believe it doesn’t play a factor. There’s multiple posts a week near me of couples and women looking for a hung guy. They literally just want a big cock. I wasn’t born with one, through no choice of my own, it was purely unlucky. That’s played a role in me missing out on those meets. But I think we just gotta agree to disagree here, otherwise we’re going on circles | |||
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"I think this is said predominantly by people who want to put as little effort in as possible. They don't post pictures, don't photo verify themselves, put minimal information in their bio, start a conversation with utter smut or just a "hi how r u" and then get miffed when men who have put the effort in get more success. " Unfortunately this is one of the circular Forum themes. 1) You take the time put together a well thought-out profile, put the effort in, send a well thought out message and - bin! You do this a few more times - bin You then think why bother. 2) Then girls say "its because we get sooo many messages from males and all guys send is FAF. Why don't guys put the effort into their profiles and make an effort in their messages" Go back to 1) The reality is for many, the picture is all it needs. Profile, messages are irrelevant you could simply send ... 3) Go into the forums and moan about it. | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. I’m gonna quote this to the next disabled person I see struggling. Imagine it. “It’s your choice to be in that wheel chair, there’s no such thing as bad luck, that d*unk driver that hit you was exactly where he was meant to be, and you made the decision to be there, so don’t blame anyone but yourself for this. You create your own luck.” You ability to contextualise and understand what I am saying is governed by the narrative you want to read. In the first instance. Genetics decided that person would be in a wheelchair (unless there was an accident) not “luck”. Luck can be used interchangeably with fate and destiny, things that are attributed to Gods, so are you saying that God decided that then? There is no difference in the belief in god and the belief in luck. Neither is a science. Genetics is. It’s no ones fault. It’s genetics. Your second scenario is based on two active choices. One which the driver made and one which the fatality made. It is not by luck that those two things collided. It is by design. Or are you saying that for some random reason the person run over decided to just leave the house and be somewhere and that the idiot that climbed in his car didn’t have his/her decision decided by poor judgement induced by alcohol. It’s up to you chap. You can let go of all the control in your life and trust/blame luck or you can take control, where it is feasible, to do so and steer your own ship. " If you didn't sound so condescending you could sound very intelligent. Luck is the name given to some of the things you're using to back your argument. Just because you think this way doesn't make it so, or that the rest of us should fall in line. | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff I guess this is the female of the couple? If the playing field was level is agree with you but it isn't." How would the playing field be levelled? Equal numbers of men and women? Women would still have more criteria to be met. I don’t think men fully understand what it’s like to know you’re meeting a stranger who is much bigger and stronger than you, who wants sex. We have all those hoops for a reason. No, as long as men are men and women are women, Fab will remain the same. All complaining does is make you look like a whiner. | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff I guess this is the female of the couple? If the playing field was level is agree with you but it isn't. How would the playing field be levelled? Equal numbers of men and women? Women would still have more criteria to be met. I don’t think men fully understand what it’s like to know you’re meeting a stranger who is much bigger and stronger than you, who wants sex. We have all those hoops for a reason. No, as long as men are men and women are women, Fab will remain the same. All complaining does is make you look like a whiner." With all due respect, because of the ratio women can and do have more criteria to be met and to be honest, don't you think if the ratio was suddenly reversed men would would soon have more criteria to be met? | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff I guess this is the female of the couple? If the playing field was level is agree with you but it isn't. How would the playing field be levelled? Equal numbers of men and women? Women would still have more criteria to be met. I don’t think men fully understand what it’s like to know you’re meeting a stranger who is much bigger and stronger than you, who wants sex. We have all those hoops for a reason. No, as long as men are men and women are women, Fab will remain the same. All complaining does is make you look like a whiner. With all due respect, because of the ratio women can and do have more criteria to be met and to be honest, don't you think if the ratio was suddenly reversed men would would soon have more criteria to be met?" Actually, I’m not sure this would be the case. Women are just conditioned to be more discerning, because being otherwise can mean a shortened life! Also….Look at incels. How many are female? How likely is it that millions of women would form a community hating and resenting men for not fucking them? There are always exceptions, but women tend not to have the sense of entitlement that comes with being male. Don’t get upset! I’m not saying that women don’t come with their own set of flaws, but the concept of being owed sex tends to be far more masculine. | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. I’m gonna quote this to the next disabled person I see struggling. Imagine it. “It’s your choice to be in that wheel chair, there’s no such thing as bad luck, that d*unk driver that hit you was exactly where he was meant to be, and you made the decision to be there, so don’t blame anyone but yourself for this. You create your own luck.” You ability to contextualise and understand what I am saying is governed by the narrative you want to read. In the first instance. Genetics decided that person would be in a wheelchair (unless there was an accident) not “luck”. Luck can be used interchangeably with fate and destiny, things that are attributed to Gods, so are you saying that God decided that then? There is no difference in the belief in god and the belief in luck. Neither is a science. Genetics is. It’s no ones fault. It’s genetics. Your second scenario is based on two active choices. One which the driver made and one which the fatality made. It is not by luck that those two things collided. It is by design. Or are you saying that for some random reason the person run over decided to just leave the house and be somewhere and that the idiot that climbed in his car didn’t have his/her decision decided by poor judgement induced by alcohol. It’s up to you chap. You can let go of all the control in your life and trust/blame luck or you can take control, where it is feasible, to do so and steer your own ship. If you didn't sound so condescending you could sound very intelligent. Luck is the name given to some of the things you're using to back your argument. Just because you think this way doesn't make it so, or that the rest of us should fall in line." Firstly please don’t insult me. I don’t mean to sound condescending if that’s how it is taken then so be it, but don’t veil your insults it’s passive aggressive and condescending in its own right. At no point have I said anything or anyone is wrong. I have merely stated that I do not believe in luck, I respect people that choose to. I choose not to. However it is foolhardy not to take ownership of your life or blame other people’s choices on luck, you might as well blame the sky. That will not bring anyone peace. Taking responsibility for your own life means letting go of luck. You cannot cross the ocean if you fear losing sight of the shore. | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. I’m gonna quote this to the next disabled person I see struggling. Imagine it. “It’s your choice to be in that wheel chair, there’s no such thing as bad luck, that d*unk driver that hit you was exactly where he was meant to be, and you made the decision to be there, so don’t blame anyone but yourself for this. You create your own luck.” You ability to contextualise and understand what I am saying is governed by the narrative you want to read. In the first instance. Genetics decided that person would be in a wheelchair (unless there was an accident) not “luck”. Luck can be used interchangeably with fate and destiny, things that are attributed to Gods, so are you saying that God decided that then? There is no difference in the belief in god and the belief in luck. Neither is a science. Genetics is. It’s no ones fault. It’s genetics. Your second scenario is based on two active choices. One which the driver made and one which the fatality made. It is not by luck that those two things collided. It is by design. Or are you saying that for some random reason the person run over decided to just leave the house and be somewhere and that the idiot that climbed in his car didn’t have his/her decision decided by poor judgement induced by alcohol. It’s up to you chap. You can let go of all the control in your life and trust/blame luck or you can take control, where it is feasible, to do so and steer your own ship. If you didn't sound so condescending you could sound very intelligent. Luck is the name given to some of the things you're using to back your argument. Just because you think this way doesn't make it so, or that the rest of us should fall in line. Firstly please don’t insult me. I don’t mean to sound condescending if that’s how it is taken then so be it, but don’t veil your insults it’s passive aggressive and condescending in its own right. At no point have I said anything or anyone is wrong. I have merely stated that I do not believe in luck, I respect people that choose to. I choose not to. However it is foolhardy not to take ownership of your life or blame other people’s choices on luck, you might as well blame the sky. That will not bring anyone peace. Taking responsibility for your own life means letting go of luck. You cannot cross the ocean if you fear losing sight of the shore. " If the cap fits. I'm not putting a veil on anything, I'm calling you out. Plane and simple. | |||
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" So I HAVE to try harder than a 6ft, medium build, fit bloke with a full head of hair and a shag pad in the city. Nobody on here is perfect. But in this life you can either let it happen (don’t try to change things) or make it happen (do try to change things) that choice will always be yours and yes, you are going to have to build a resilient psyche to help you do that and that will take time, pain and upset. But taking control over your own life, is the first step in accepting who you are and building confidence, you cannot expect other people to accept you if you do not accept yourself and cherish what you have, not bemoan what you do not. Obviously he has to try harder. I’m not saying that’s not the case. But the thread is making out like every guy that fails on here is entirely his fault Luck applies in life. And I don’t think we should blame a guy like that for “not trying hard enough” It’s like telling someone in a wheelchair they gotta try harder when there no ramp Life isn’t fair. This thread is acting like everyone starts on an even platform and your message and profile are all that matters. If you base your perception of life’s volcanoes and valleys around luck then you will always have something to blame. Luck. Nothing is attributable to “luck”. Genetics. Yes. But not luck. Being in the right place at the right time is not luck. You chose to be somewhere at that time. The opportunity will have been governed by a decision, therefore what is “luck”? Getting a meet on fab is not about luck. It’s about managing the circumstances, in a positive, way to enable a choice you have made to align with another individual (or couples) choices. You make your own “luck” in this life and that is always dependent upon how brave, considered, measured and realistic your choices are, and those choices coinciding with someone else’s bravery, consideration, measuredness and alignment, not a mythical force that does not exist. I’m gonna quote this to the next disabled person I see struggling. Imagine it. “It’s your choice to be in that wheel chair, there’s no such thing as bad luck, that d*unk driver that hit you was exactly where he was meant to be, and you made the decision to be there, so don’t blame anyone but yourself for this. You create your own luck.” You ability to contextualise and understand what I am saying is governed by the narrative you want to read. In the first instance. Genetics decided that person would be in a wheelchair (unless there was an accident) not “luck”. Luck can be used interchangeably with fate and destiny, things that are attributed to Gods, so are you saying that God decided that then? There is no difference in the belief in god and the belief in luck. Neither is a science. Genetics is. It’s no ones fault. It’s genetics. Your second scenario is based on two active choices. One which the driver made and one which the fatality made. It is not by luck that those two things collided. It is by design. Or are you saying that for some random reason the person run over decided to just leave the house and be somewhere and that the idiot that climbed in his car didn’t have his/her decision decided by poor judgement induced by alcohol. It’s up to you chap. You can let go of all the control in your life and trust/blame luck or you can take control, where it is feasible, to do so and steer your own ship. If you didn't sound so condescending you could sound very intelligent. Luck is the name given to some of the things you're using to back your argument. Just because you think this way doesn't make it so, or that the rest of us should fall in line. Firstly please don’t insult me. I don’t mean to sound condescending if that’s how it is taken then so be it, but don’t veil your insults it’s passive aggressive and condescending in its own right. At no point have I said anything or anyone is wrong. I have merely stated that I do not believe in luck, I respect people that choose to. I choose not to. However it is foolhardy not to take ownership of your life or blame other people’s choices on luck, you might as well blame the sky. That will not bring anyone peace. Taking responsibility for your own life means letting go of luck. You cannot cross the ocean if you fear losing sight of the shore. If the cap fits. I'm not putting a veil on anything, I'm calling you out. Plane and simple." Are you. Why? Have I insulted anyone? I’ve been told I am “condescending”,that my opinion is “poisonous” all while saying that I respect people’s beliefs but they are an anathema to me. How strange. But if it pleases you, then continue (that, as a point of note, is condescending, for reference) | |||
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"Whilst I agree with taking personal responsibility and not blaming others, there is an element of truth in it, I have definitely lost a little faith in men and their behaviour, because of the actions of a few on here. Isn't that true of all, not just males? I know you're speaking from your own experiences but isn't that just perpetuating the anti male ethos - not defending the behaviour of some guys. Many females and couples are also responsible for reprehensible behaviour. Just before a get the mob lynching and hate mail - nothing against the poster but just don't agree entirely with the post
I hear what you’re saying, but the behaviour of men in my life, has meant that I don’t trust men, and the way some behave on fab, well it reinforces it.
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff I guess this is the female of the couple? If the playing field was level is agree with you but it isn't. How would the playing field be levelled? Equal numbers of men and women? Women would still have more criteria to be met. I don’t think men fully understand what it’s like to know you’re meeting a stranger who is much bigger and stronger than you, who wants sex. We have all those hoops for a reason. No, as long as men are men and women are women, Fab will remain the same. All complaining does is make you look like a whiner. With all due respect, because of the ratio women can and do have more criteria to be met and to be honest, don't you think if the ratio was suddenly reversed men would would soon have more criteria to be met? Actually, I’m not sure this would be the case. Women are just conditioned to be more discerning, because being otherwise can mean a shortened life! Also….Look at incels. How many are female? How likely is it that millions of women would form a community hating and resenting men for not fucking them? There are always exceptions, but women tend not to have the sense of entitlement that comes with being male. Don’t get upset! I’m not saying that women don’t come with their own set of flaws, but the concept of being owed sex tends to be far more masculine." Seriously, thank you for your concern but I'm not getting upset, honestly. All I'm saying is the people, whoever, with most choices obviously become more picky, it's understandably logical.  | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument "This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
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"Whilst I agree with taking personal responsibility and not blaming others, there is an element of truth in it, I have definitely lost a little faith in men and their behaviour, because of the actions of a few on here. Isn't that true of all, not just males? I know you're speaking from your own experiences but isn't that just perpetuating the anti male ethos - not defending the behaviour of some guys. Many females and couples are also responsible for reprehensible behaviour. Just before a get the mob lynching and hate mail - nothing against the poster but just don't agree entirely with the post
I hear what you’re saying, but the behaviour of men in my life, has meant that I don’t trust men, and the way some behave on fab, well it reinforces it.
I’ve rarely had the same experiences with couples/women in real life, or on here.
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" Best bet is to visit s club and get to know people | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
I'm now thinking of looking for one!"Look at us, typical knuckle dragging cave men | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
I'm now thinking of looking for one!
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" I refuse to be lectured without punctuation. | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
I'm now thinking of looking for one!
Look at us, typical knuckle dragging cave men
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
I'm now thinking of looking for one!
Look at us, typical knuckle dragging cave men
Better than dealing with whats outside innit?
Oh, 100%. Any woman interested in being hosted in a cave? "Depends how nice your cave drawings are. | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
I'm now thinking of looking for one!
Look at us, typical knuckle dragging cave men
Better than dealing with whats outside innit?
Oh, 100%. Any woman interested in being hosted in a cave?
Depends how nice your cave drawings are. "There’s a few claw marks on that wall. My drawing skills are bad, so bad! | |||
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"This is completely the way society is going! Nobody likes to take the blame for their doings anymore. Nobody likes admitting they don’t know something, regardless how much we know that we don’t and can’t know everything! This is so annoying coming from someone who when knows something is wrong just keeps quiet as he can’t be fucked with an argument
This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
I'm now thinking of looking for one!
Look at us, typical knuckle dragging cave men
Better than dealing with whats outside innit?
Oh, 100%. Any woman interested in being hosted in a cave? "Don't think so mate, I'm still searching! | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff I guess this is the female of the couple? If the playing field was level is agree with you but it isn't. How would the playing field be levelled? Equal numbers of men and women? Women would still have more criteria to be met. I don’t think men fully understand what it’s like to know you’re meeting a stranger who is much bigger and stronger than you, who wants sex. We have all those hoops for a reason. No, as long as men are men and women are women, Fab will remain the same. All complaining does is make you look like a whiner. With all due respect, because of the ratio women can and do have more criteria to be met and to be honest, don't you think if the ratio was suddenly reversed men would would soon have more criteria to be met? Actually, I’m not sure this would be the case. Women are just conditioned to be more discerning, because being otherwise can mean a shortened life! Also….Look at incels. How many are female? How likely is it that millions of women would form a community hating and resenting men for not fucking them? There are always exceptions, but women tend not to have the sense of entitlement that comes with being male. Don’t get upset! I’m not saying that women don’t come with their own set of flaws, but the concept of being owed sex tends to be far more masculine. Seriously, thank you for your concern but I'm not getting upset, honestly. All I'm saying is the people, whoever, with most choices obviously become more picky, it's understandably logical. "I didn’t mean you, personally, sorry! People sometimes get annoyed when the differences between men and women are discussed. No offence intended! | |||
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This is why I choose to stay in my cave and avoid outside
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else "A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums. | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums. "I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support. It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer. | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer. "I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested. | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer.
I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested. "Thats cause you're badass | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer.
I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested.
Thats cause you're badass". I’m really not though | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer.
I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested.
Thats cause you're badass
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer.
I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested.
Thats cause you're badass
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Really?? Might take you off my hotlist then "Well I can be if you want me to be | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer.
I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested.
Thats cause you're badass
. I’m really not though
Really?? Might take you off my hotlist then
Well I can be if you want me to be "I would never ask Nora the Explorer to be anything other than herself and I wait in the dark for the opportunity to please | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
I have seen seemingly genuine threads from dudes asking if there are reasons for not getting replies and such, but then they get torn down. I've seen other seemingly whingy threads getting loads of support.
It is kinda hard not to get deflated if you are genuine but don't get any interest from anyone. But then you can't blame people for being wary if there are others being really creepy and such. I guess it's all valid really and no one answer.
I don’t usually read them or comment on them to be honest. Whingey threads and people asking for profile advice puts me right off. If they can’t even do a profile by themselves I’m unlikely to be interested.
Thats cause you're badass"I wouldn't imagine Nora's arse is bad anyway | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums. "nora as you know i stuck up for myself and other men and will not pander. i know a lot of guys are weak and see talking back as ruining chances of getting a fuck. many on here have blocked me for my views and that is completely up to them. but i dont care because they truth often hurts. you will see the same women moaning and complaining about men every day. messages they get, the bins not put out, anything to get attention. that is just what it is, they will put a new pic up and be so desperate for validation and fabs they will make a thread attacking men because YOU the weak guys kiss arse and do not say, hang on a minute who the fuck are you to tell me whats right and wrong. you suck it up because you are so desperate for her pussy. She is not the only pussy on here, remember that, dont lower your value kissing her behind because chances are she will never meet you just string you along because all she wants is fabs, attention and validation. oh and by the way. that kik group that slags everyone off run by a forum women? im on it using someone elses handle. | |||
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"Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag " God that made my fanny practically slam closed. | |||
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"What’s that Bill Murray film called again? "Caddyshack | |||
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"What’s that Bill Murray film called again?
Blues Brothers "Ive given up trying to get a proper meet. Just here for the virus forum now | |||
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"What’s that Bill Murray film called again?
Blues Brothers
Ive given up trying to get a proper meet. Just here for the virus forum now "Fuck that i went in there earlier and my eyes started bleeding | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. " no Fucking clue either!! | |||
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"What’s that Bill Murray film called again?
Caddyshack "Is that the one where he gets spunked on by a spook? | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. " I’ve absolutely no idea what’s going on here? Assuming this is because I don’t use the forums much these days? | |||
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"this is becoming the new normal people blaming others rather than looking at themselves.... the obvious one is at the moment guys blaming other guys for getting no where ....... bad guys ruin it for us good guys ..... nobody ruins it for you bar yourself stop using others as an excuse its such a turnoff" Well it's certainly not my fault - I'm bloody awesome. | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. " You made a mistake. You got involved. I did that once. Never again. Don’t sweat what goes on behind the scenes, it gives people a part of your energy they don’t deserve. Just be you fella. People slag me off all the tone (so other people delight in telling me) I roll my eyes at both groups, neither deserves my energy. | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. " Crips n Bloods | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Crips n Bloods" Crisps and butts | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Crips n Bloods" East side iz da best | |||
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"What’s that Bill Murray film called again?
Caddyshack
Is that the one where he gets spunked on by a spook? "No that’s Lost in translation | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Crips n Bloods Crisps and butts" Chips n Boobs | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. " Ignore those mother hens. They don’t meet anyways and none of their little possy does either. Keyboard warriors | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. " Oh dramaaaaaaa! I want to know who this is!! | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Crips n Bloods East side iz da best" Like a jungle sometimes, makes me wonder how I keep from going under | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Oh dramaaaaaaa! I want to know who this is!! "Me too  | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Oh dramaaaaaaa! I want to know who this is!! "When you find out can you let me know and I’ll let you have a little suck  | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
nora as you know i stuck up for myself and other men and will not pander. i know a lot of guys are weak and see talking back as ruining chances of getting a fuck.
many on here have blocked me for my views and that is completely up to them. but i dont care because they truth often hurts.
you will see the same women moaning and complaining about men every day. messages they get, the bins not put out, anything to get attention.
that is just what it is, they will put a new pic up and be so desperate for validation and fabs they will make a thread attacking men because YOU the weak guys kiss arse and do not say, hang on a minute who the fuck are you to tell me whats right and wrong.
you suck it up because you are so desperate for her pussy.
She is not the only pussy on here, remember that, dont lower your value kissing her behind because chances are she will never meet you just string you along because all she wants is fabs, attention and validation.
oh and by the way. that kik group that slags everyone off run by a forum women? im on it using someone elses handle.
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Oh dramaaaaaaa! I want to know who this is!!
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
nora as you know i stuck up for myself and other men and will not pander. i know a lot of guys are weak and see talking back as ruining chances of getting a fuck.
many on here have blocked me for my views and that is completely up to them. but i dont care because they truth often hurts.
you will see the same women moaning and complaining about men every day. messages they get, the bins not put out, anything to get attention.
that is just what it is, they will put a new pic up and be so desperate for validation and fabs they will make a thread attacking men because YOU the weak guys kiss arse and do not say, hang on a minute who the fuck are you to tell me whats right and wrong.
you suck it up because you are so desperate for her pussy.
She is not the only pussy on here, remember that, dont lower your value kissing her behind because chances are she will never meet you just string you along because all she wants is fabs, attention and validation.
oh and by the way. that kik group that slags everyone off run by a forum women? im on it using someone elses handle.
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. " I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about "There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though "I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though "Part of me feels left out. Part of me is glad I have a fairly simple fab life . | |||
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"What’s that Bill Murray film called again?
Caddyshack
Is that the one where he gets spunked on by a spook?
No that’s Lost in translation"Ah yeah I remember now. They were all zombies in it | |||
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"problem is guys ( and please dont tell me your all stupid ) there is a running battle between 2 women on this forum. real nasty hate shit. one of them today accused me on being in one camp not the other and to be honest i wasnt going to say but fuck it. its really pathetic these women are dividing people up into gangs its like being back at school. its my ball and you cant play with us. ffs and you men suffer because if you flirt with one of these women you automatically get shit on by the other and become dead to her and everyone in her little camp. one of them even messaged a friend of mine to warn him not to flirt with the other women its that mental. you cant win guys its really is that childish. Oh dramaaaaaaa! I want to know who this is!! "Me too! I’ve been on the forums 7 years and I don’t this. I’m clearly bloody slacking! If someone knows who they are - feel free to pm me! | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse "Ah that's not quite true, women definitely can be. | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
Part of me feels left out. Part of me is glad I have a fairly simple fab life . "Yep! I knew about the kik groups though. I’ve been invited to a few but never joined. Noooooo thanks! | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse
Ah that's not quite true, women definitely can be."Not this particular group as far as I know. It’s mainly for shitting on guys | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse "I don't know about that! I'd say from things I've read on the forums every once in a while, and from personal real life experience, women can be absolute bitches about other women. I guess we will never know. But yes Lacey, it makes me glad of my simple Fab life too. I can't be dealing with people who act like that. | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
Part of me feels left out. Part of me is glad I have a fairly simple fab life .
Yep! I knew about the kik groups though. I’ve been invited to a few but never joined. Noooooo thanks!"I can barely keep up with my family WhatsApp group, nevermind that. | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse
Ah that's not quite true, women definitely can be.
Not this particular group as far as I know. It’s mainly for shitting on guys"Hitler was into that... | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse
Ah that's not quite true, women definitely can be.
Not this particular group as far as I know. It’s mainly for shitting on guys"I've never heard of this group, I'm glad about that. I think men get enough shit heaped on them. Yeah, some of them do dumb shit but so do the women. Bitching about it in a kik group isn't cool, nor is creating weird divisions as the original post alluded to. People need more sex. | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
Part of me feels left out. Part of me is glad I have a fairly simple fab life .
Yep! I knew about the kik groups though. I’ve been invited to a few but never joined. Noooooo thanks!
I can barely keep up with my family WhatsApp group, nevermind that. " | |||
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"^ I am so very oblivious of these going ons and I'm glad of that. I was just thinking this. Am I really this unobservant? Though I guess it isn't obvious from forum posts if so many have no idea what this is even about
There's a whole other Fab world apparently! I never notice anything though
I think as women you won’t be because your not the subject of the abuse
I don't know about that!
I'd say from things I've read on the forums every once in a while, and from personal real life experience, women can be absolute bitches about other women.
I guess we will never know.
But yes Lacey, it makes me glad of my simple Fab life too. I can't be dealing with people who act like that. "As far as I know while there are some women in woman botching in these groups. That’s stuff you’ll never hear about Where as they actively try to blacklist guys and attack them every chance they get to make their time here not fun. So it’s much easier for a guy to spot the targeted harassment | |||
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
nora as you know i stuck up for myself and other men and will not pander. i know a lot of guys are weak and see talking back as ruining chances of getting a fuck.
many on here have blocked me for my views and that is completely up to them. but i dont care because they truth often hurts.
you will see the same women moaning and complaining about men every day. messages they get, the bins not put out, anything to get attention.
that is just what it is, they will put a new pic up and be so desperate for validation and fabs they will make a thread attacking men because YOU the weak guys kiss arse and do not say, hang on a minute who the fuck are you to tell me whats right and wrong.
you suck it up because you are so desperate for her pussy.
She is not the only pussy on here, remember that, dont lower your value kissing her behind because chances are she will never meet you just string you along because all she wants is fabs, attention and validation.
oh and by the way. that kik group that slags everyone off run by a forum women? im on it using someone elses handle
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"Whether people admit or not there is a huge disparity between the way guys and women are treated publicly on these sites - it's nothing new. Many guys would chew off their arm if a woman commanded it if they though they might get a shag (metaphor hope no one actually would). Many women exploit it - guess for some it is a feeling of empowerment. People in all walks of life will blame others for their own failings it is easier. Guys want to been seen as better than other guys in order to win favour see former ^^. Like jousting knits oooooops knights, trying to win favour. Blame their failing on their lance (euphemism) or the stead etc. The females are no different trying to win favour like courtiers, generally blaming others tends to be more behind the scenes than in public also numbers are obviously relative. A thread started by a guy may get him slated, the same thread started by a female will get supported. A female can be unpleasant to a guy and that's ok, if a guy dares to speak back or defend himself will likely be burned at the stake. This is the way of these sites - always will be So no group is innocent but guys tend to get the focus - many bring it upon themselves granted People always look to blame others what ever group you belong to - it is never you it is everyone else
A lot of guys don’t speak back and defend though. I like the ones that actually do! If there’s a thread for women about what annoys you about a man it will fill up in no time. Same one for a man about women and there’ll be a couple of comments. Men won’t comment for fear of upsetting women and therefore thinking they’re less likely to get a meet from them. I prefer the men who stick up for themselves and don’t pander to women. There are a few here on the forums.
nora as you know i stuck up for myself and other men and will not pander. i know a lot of guys are weak and see talking back as ruining chances of getting a fuck.
many on here have blocked me for my views and that is completely up to them. but i dont care because they truth often hurts.
you will see the same women moaning and complaining about men every day. messages they get, the bins not put out, anything to get attention.
that is just what it is, they will put a new pic up and be so desperate for validation and fabs they will make a thread attacking men because YOU the weak guys kiss arse and do not say, hang on a minute who the fuck are you to tell me whats right and wrong.
you suck it up because you are so desperate for her pussy.
She is not the only pussy on here, remember that, dont lower your value kissing her behind because chances are she will never meet you just string you along because all she wants is fabs, attention and validation.
oh and by the way. that kik group that slags everyone off run by a forum women? im on it using someone elses handle
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" oh and by the way. that kik group that slags everyone off run by a forum women? im on it using someone elses handle. " I'm on there as ClitorisAllsorts but tbf I only slag off that wanker LeoBlooms | |||
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" As far as I know while there are some women in woman botching in these groups. That’s stuff you’ll never hear about Where as they actively try to blacklist guys and attack them every chance they get to make their time here not fun. So it’s much easier for a guy to spot the targeted harassment " Well if that's true then shame on them. I'd only ever agree with discussing and targeting someone if it was due to safety concerns, but other than that I don't like it. But anyway what kind of sheep would you have to be anyway to follow what other people say in a group? I like to make my own judgement on a person rather than listen to what others have to say and then go along with that! It's a shame really. But makes me happy that I'm very careful about who I get involved with. | |||
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