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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
It’s thankfully pretty rare, but it’s completely unacceptable, and I imagine she’ll be disciplined. |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
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By *ona63Woman
over a year ago
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It’s pentathlon, that means that they are riding horses from a pool that they have never ridden before and don’t understand. To get to any other equestrian event at Olympic level you have to have such a bond with your horse that their feelings end up being way more important than winning a medal. I have not watched the footage but in the stills that horse looks scared and lost, loosing your rag with a scared horse is just going to reinforce their fear and put you all in a dangerous situation x |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
Surely the more pertinent question is why Germany had a violent sofa on their Olympic team? |
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Was that in the modern pentathlon?
Saw the event live and it was absolutely terrible for the rider as they don’t know what horse they’re getting. (Unlike the showjumping) HOWEVER, don’t punch the horse, it was absolutely terrified and did not want to jump! |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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I am guessing this was the modern pentathlon yesterday it was heartbreaking the German girl was in the lead but couldn't bond with the horse she was distraught which seemed to make the horse worse. No excuses especially from a coach but imagine that it can be extremely frustrating to watch all your hard work in the previous four/five years going up in smoke all based on the luck of the draw. The horse had done the same thing earlier to an ROC athlete which didn't help the Germans fame of mind when trying to bond with the horse. |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?
Surely the more pertinent question is why Germany had a violent sofa on their Olympic team? "
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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If we’d have been there, we’d like to think we’d have shouted ‘Hay! Stop that!’, but the coach doesn’t sound very stable, so our mane worry would be he might have punched us too.
Certainly he poses a threat to other horses, and on that basis should be fetlocked up. Or hoofed out of the team at the very least, for saddling them with the reputation of being too hands on with their horses. |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?
Surely the more pertinent question is why Germany had a violent sofa on their Olympic team? "
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"Was that in the modern pentathlon?
Saw the event live and it was absolutely terrible for the rider as they don’t know what horse they’re getting. (Unlike the showjumping) HOWEVER, don’t punch the horse, it was absolutely terrified and did not want to jump! "
It was, the horse had already tried to buck people off and refused to ride for some. She was given it with 20 minutes notice. She was in tears just trying to get it to walk. She hit out at it
And so what if she did, we ride horses into riots, it shouldnt have happened but also a horse known to refuse to ride shouldn't be in the pool. |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
If it was standard practice, I don't think she would have been thrown out of the Olympics.
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"Was that in the modern pentathlon?
Saw the event live and it was absolutely terrible for the rider as they don’t know what horse they’re getting. (Unlike the showjumping) HOWEVER, don’t punch the horse, it was absolutely terrified and did not want to jump!
It was, the horse had already tried to buck people off and refused to ride for some. She was given it with 20 minutes notice. She was in tears just trying to get it to walk. She hit out at it
And so what if she did, we ride horses into riots, it shouldnt have happened but also a horse known to refuse to ride shouldn't be in the pool."
It was the coach not the rider, which is much worse! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Has anyone actually seen the punch?
It was more of a closed fisted slap. But everyone kicks off about that. But the rider who's using her heel to spur the horse on, and the really overly aggressive pulling of the bit is fine because that's the "norm" |
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The rider was not in a great state when she came out and the horse took its lead from that. Not sure what happened in the warm up 20 mind that each rider gets but clearly the pairing did not gel. That's the way the sport works.
Haven't managed to see a clip of the 'punch' just a still of the coach with a balled up hand on the hind quarter of the horse. Any rider will tell you that sometimes a strike to the hind quarter to gee a horse up happens. Maybe it is in response to a Whip ban perhaps? Not sure but if it goes against the governing bodies code of conduct then they should have known better even in thd heat of competition. |
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"It’s pentathlon, that means that they are riding horses from a pool that they have never ridden before and don’t understand. To get to any other equestrian event at Olympic level you have to have such a bond with your horse that their feelings end up being way more important than winning a medal. I have not watched the footage but in the stills that horse looks scared and lost, loosing your rag with a scared horse is just going to reinforce their fear and put you all in a dangerous situation x"
Not to mention sending a damaged horse back to it's owner who spent years training them for the event
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A tap with a closed fist is in no way a punch imho.
Tony"
Doesn't matter how how much force is behind the punch, it is still a fist connecting to body. Still unacceptable |
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Watched this
The horse was very flighty, its rider clearly very wound up and stressed herself. She was smacking it and yelling back to the coaches and getting more and more distressed. It was awful to see all round. There were other riders who didn't do so well who were also, IMHO, off with the horses. |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?
Normally in Newcastle "
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The standard of horsemanship from the majority of modern pentathlon competitors was shocking. They had zero ability to ride, especially not over 1.2m jumps. They should NOT be riding with whips or spurs and evidently had no idea (in the majority of cases) how or when or if these should be used. If the average pentathlete is a complete novice rider, then either the equestrian element should be "modernised" by switching it to cycling or some other sport, OR the jumps should be lowered; a minimum standard of riding should be evidenced and spurs/whips should be banned.
You can evidence your riding ability through the completion of an internationally recognised riding test or through finishing in the top X% in a national show jumping competition of the right fence height. They should have to qualify for the equestrian element, because a) the welfare of the horses should be paramount and b) this element could easily result in serious injury to the competitors.
Horses ridden by amateurs should be ridden only in simple tack, not in complex gag bits and not in running martingales that restrict the horse's head. The improper position and shite balance of the majority of the riders resulted in horrible yanking on severe bits and all other manner of horrors. A snaffle bit should be the only bit in the hands of an unbalanced, novice rider.
As a lifelong equestrian rider, I was completely disgusted by the entire display of riding in both the men's and women's pentathlon, but especially with the German rider's behaviour, which would only have served to further distress the horse and not calm it down.
Finally, anyone who thought the equestrian events were easy and it's just sitting on a horse - there's your evidence that it really ISN'T. |
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"The standard of horsemanship from the majority of modern pentathlon competitors was shocking. They had zero ability to ride, especially not over 1.2m jumps. They should NOT be riding with whips or spurs and evidently had no idea (in the majority of cases) how or when or if these should be used. If the average pentathlete is a complete novice rider, then either the equestrian element should be "modernised" by switching it to cycling or some other sport, OR the jumps should be lowered; a minimum standard of riding should be evidenced and spurs/whips should be banned.
You can evidence your riding ability through the completion of an internationally recognised riding test or through finishing in the top X% in a national show jumping competition of the right fence height. They should have to qualify for the equestrian element, because a) the welfare of the horses should be paramount and b) this element could easily result in serious injury to the competitors.
Horses ridden by amateurs should be ridden only in simple tack, not in complex gag bits and not in running martingales that restrict the horse's head. The improper position and shite balance of the majority of the riders resulted in horrible yanking on severe bits and all other manner of horrors. A snaffle bit should be the only bit in the hands of an unbalanced, novice rider.
As a lifelong equestrian rider, I was completely disgusted by the entire display of riding in both the men's and women's pentathlon, but especially with the German rider's behaviour, which would only have served to further distress the horse and not calm it down.
Finally, anyone who thought the equestrian events were easy and it's just sitting on a horse - there's your evidence that it really ISN'T. "
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"The standard of horsemanship from the majority of modern pentathlon competitors was shocking. They had zero ability to ride, especially not over 1.2m jumps. They should NOT be riding with whips or spurs and evidently had no idea (in the majority of cases) how or when or if these should be used. If the average pentathlete is a complete novice rider, then either the equestrian element should be "modernised" by switching it to cycling or some other sport, OR the jumps should be lowered; a minimum standard of riding should be evidenced and spurs/whips should be banned.
You can evidence your riding ability through the completion of an internationally recognised riding test or through finishing in the top X% in a national show jumping competition of the right fence height. They should have to qualify for the equestrian element, because a) the welfare of the horses should be paramount and b) this element could easily result in serious injury to the competitors.
Horses ridden by amateurs should be ridden only in simple tack, not in complex gag bits and not in running martingales that restrict the horse's head. The improper position and shite balance of the majority of the riders resulted in horrible yanking on severe bits and all other manner of horrors. A snaffle bit should be the only bit in the hands of an unbalanced, novice rider.
As a lifelong equestrian rider, I was completely disgusted by the entire display of riding in both the men's and women's pentathlon, but especially with the German rider's behaviour, which would only have served to further distress the horse and not calm it down.
Finally, anyone who thought the equestrian events were easy and it's just sitting on a horse - there's your evidence that it really ISN'T. "
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"Why would an athlete who trains to shoot mid run not also train to ride a horse?! OK they're not solely equestrian competitors but I'd imagine the ride as part of their training. "
I've seen better displays of show jumping from nine year old children at local riding club shows. I am a more balanced rider than the majority on display in the pentathlon (male and female) and I have one weak leg and hip that I struggle to use fully. |
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"Why would an athlete who trains to shoot mid run not also train to ride a horse?! OK they're not solely equestrian competitors but I'd imagine the ride as part of their training.
I've seen better displays of show jumping from nine year old children at local riding club shows. I am a more balanced rider than the majority on display in the pentathlon (male and female) and I have one weak leg and hip that I struggle to use fully. "
I'm sure you have. We're they competing for an Olympic medal lol
I do get your point, I didn't see much of the riding other than the German lady who was shocking. Like I said, I don't understand why they would train for all the other sports but ride so poorly. Perhaps a riding license is needed? |
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"The standard of horsemanship from the majority of modern pentathlon competitors was shocking. They had zero ability to ride, especially not over 1.2m jumps. They should NOT be riding with whips or spurs and evidently had no idea (in the majority of cases) how or when or if these should be used. If the average pentathlete is a complete novice rider, then either the equestrian element should be "modernised" by switching it to cycling or some other sport, OR the jumps should be lowered; a minimum standard of riding should be evidenced and spurs/whips should be banned.
You can evidence your riding ability through the completion of an internationally recognised riding test or through finishing in the top X% in a national show jumping competition of the right fence height. They should have to qualify for the equestrian element, because a) the welfare of the horses should be paramount and b) this element could easily result in serious injury to the competitors.
Horses ridden by amateurs should be ridden only in simple tack, not in complex gag bits and not in running martingales that restrict the horse's head. The improper position and shite balance of the majority of the riders resulted in horrible yanking on severe bits and all other manner of horrors. A snaffle bit should be the only bit in the hands of an unbalanced, novice rider.
As a lifelong equestrian rider, I was completely disgusted by the entire display of riding in both the men's and women's pentathlon, but especially with the German rider's behaviour, which would only have served to further distress the horse and not calm it down.
Finally, anyone who thought the equestrian events were easy and it's just sitting on a horse - there's your evidence that it really ISN'T. "
As a fellow Equestrian I totally agree with every thing here..totally shocking riding and behavior towards the Horse..very harsh on the Horses mouth. I have to say too that some of the professional riders have bad habits of handling the reins and been too harsh on the Horses mouth..take the metal spurs off the riders boots and remove the harsh bits too.. |
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"Those buggers should be let near a horse if they have to hit it..."
The horse is trained to a higher standard than the rider, maybe the horse could bitchkick them into next week for their incompetency |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
Yes
An hos would refuse to jump if the cart was still bolted to it.
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"Why would an athlete who trains to shoot mid run not also train to ride a horse?! OK they're not solely equestrian competitors but I'd imagine the ride as part of their training.
I've seen better displays of show jumping from nine year old children at local riding club shows. I am a more balanced rider than the majority on display in the pentathlon (male and female) and I have one weak leg and hip that I struggle to use fully.
I'm sure you have. We're they competing for an Olympic medal lol
I do get your point, I didn't see much of the riding other than the German lady who was shocking. Like I said, I don't understand why they would train for all the other sports but ride so poorly. Perhaps a riding license is needed? "
Athletes competing for an Olympic medal should be more proficient than a nine year old child, riding in a field in Wigan.
My initial post made the suggestion of a riding license or some sort of qualifying standard. They should be able to complete a national level show jumping course at the required fence height or complete an international standard riding test.
Riding over obstacles requires great balance from the rider and a good seat and position at each phase of the jump.
Pentathletes were landing over the horse's necks, gripping the reins for balance, leaning wildly to one side etc, all of which will put the horse at a huge disadvantage upon landing and trying to turn to the next fence.
They should be able to jump a horse without reins - that'll sort your balance out and remove the inappropriate reliance on hanging onto the mouth of the horse. |
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"Why would an athlete who trains to shoot mid run not also train to ride a horse?! OK they're not solely equestrian competitors but I'd imagine the ride as part of their training.
I've seen better displays of show jumping from nine year old children at local riding club shows. I am a more balanced rider than the majority on display in the pentathlon (male and female) and I have one weak leg and hip that I struggle to use fully.
I'm sure you have. We're they competing for an Olympic medal lol
I do get your point, I didn't see much of the riding other than the German lady who was shocking. Like I said, I don't understand why they would train for all the other sports but ride so poorly. Perhaps a riding license is needed?
Athletes competing for an Olympic medal should be more proficient than a nine year old child, riding in a field in Wigan.
My initial post made the suggestion of a riding license or some sort of qualifying standard. They should be able to complete a national level show jumping course at the required fence height or complete an international standard riding test.
Riding over obstacles requires great balance from the rider and a good seat and position at each phase of the jump.
Pentathletes were landing over the horse's necks, gripping the reins for balance, leaning wildly to one side etc, all of which will put the horse at a huge disadvantage upon landing and trying to turn to the next fence.
They should be able to jump a horse without reins - that'll sort your balance out and remove the inappropriate reliance on hanging onto the mouth of the horse. "
I think we're on the same page here lol |
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"Why would an athlete who trains to shoot mid run not also train to ride a horse?! OK they're not solely equestrian competitors but I'd imagine the ride as part of their training.
I've seen better displays of show jumping from nine year old children at local riding club shows. I am a more balanced rider than the majority on display in the pentathlon (male and female) and I have one weak leg and hip that I struggle to use fully.
I'm sure you have. We're they competing for an Olympic medal lol
I do get your point, I didn't see much of the riding other than the German lady who was shocking. Like I said, I don't understand why they would train for all the other sports but ride so poorly. Perhaps a riding license is needed?
Athletes competing for an Olympic medal should be more proficient than a nine year old child, riding in a field in Wigan.
My initial post made the suggestion of a riding license or some sort of qualifying standard. They should be able to complete a national level show jumping course at the required fence height or complete an international standard riding test.
Riding over obstacles requires great balance from the rider and a good seat and position at each phase of the jump.
Pentathletes were landing over the horse's necks, gripping the reins for balance, leaning wildly to one side etc, all of which will put the horse at a huge disadvantage upon landing and trying to turn to the next fence.
They should be able to jump a horse without reins - that'll sort your balance out and remove the inappropriate reliance on hanging onto the mouth of the horse.
I think we're on the same page here lol"
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
Totally unacceptable! Should be prosecuted. |
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By *olly4Woman
over a year ago
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"Why would an athlete who trains to shoot mid run not also train to ride a horse?! OK they're not solely equestrian competitors but I'd imagine the ride as part of their training.
I've seen better displays of show jumping from nine year old children at local riding club shows. I am a more balanced rider than the majority on display in the pentathlon (male and female) and I have one weak leg and hip that I struggle to use fully.
I'm sure you have. We're they competing for an Olympic medal lol
I do get your point, I didn't see much of the riding other than the German lady who was shocking. Like I said, I don't understand why they would train for all the other sports but ride so poorly. Perhaps a riding license is needed?
Athletes competing for an Olympic medal should be more proficient than a nine year old child, riding in a field in Wigan.
My initial post made the suggestion of a riding license or some sort of qualifying standard. They should be able to complete a national level show jumping course at the required fence height or complete an international standard riding test.
Riding over obstacles requires great balance from the rider and a good seat and position at each phase of the jump.
Pentathletes were landing over the horse's necks, gripping the reins for balance, leaning wildly to one side etc, all of which will put the horse at a huge disadvantage upon landing and trying to turn to the next fence.
They should be able to jump a horse without reins - that'll sort your balance out and remove the inappropriate reliance on hanging onto the mouth of the horse. "
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Maybe one day they will set a minimum standard for the riders and their ability! Shocking to be honest and for punching a horse there is no excuse ever for doing that. I cringed watching some of the riders in the show jumping they were embarrassing I wouldn't let some of them lead one of mine from the field let alone ride one!! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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More than one issue here. Pot luck on picking a horse that you have never met is ridiculous. You could be given either Shergar or a Blackpool Donkey. It's like having a triathlon and giving one rider a racing bike and the other a kids trike. Imagine being at a swingers club. Picking a couple in a draw and having to have sex after 20 minutes. If they refuse do you punch them?
The showjumpers get the medal and the horse seems to get nothing but a sugar lump.
Taking your horse all the way to Tokyo sounds cruel in itself. Not sure if they go by plane or boat but they must be traumatized. Remember the protests at the export of live animals for slaughter.
And if the poor buggers are ridden to the event then they are probably too tired to jump anyway. It's a toffs sport and we all know how they treat the rest of society ... Enough said |
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"More than one issue here. Pot luck on picking a horse that you have never met is ridiculous. You could be given either Shergar or a Blackpool Donkey. It's like having a triathlon and giving one rider a racing bike and the other a kids trike. Imagine being at a swingers club. Picking a couple in a draw and having to have sex after 20 minutes. If they refuse do you punch them?
The showjumpers get the medal and the horse seems to get nothing but a sugar lump.
Taking your horse all the way to Tokyo sounds cruel in itself. Not sure if they go by plane or boat but they must be traumatized. Remember the protests at the export of live animals for slaughter.
And if the poor buggers are ridden to the event then they are probably too tired to jump anyway. It's a toffs sport and we all know how they treat the rest of society ... Enough said "
I think those protests were more about the slaughter bit than the export bit, Tom |
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"A German couch has been sent out of the Olympics because one if the competitors horses refused to jump. She ended up punching the horse. Is that standard practice in the horsey world?"
A German couch ? Is that from IKEA Germany then ? ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By *olly4Woman
over a year ago
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"More than one issue here. Pot luck on picking a horse that you have never met is ridiculous. You could be given either Shergar or a Blackpool Donkey. It's like having a triathlon and giving one rider a racing bike and the other a kids trike. Imagine being at a swingers club. Picking a couple in a draw and having to have sex after 20 minutes. If they refuse do you punch them?
The showjumpers get the medal and the horse seems to get nothing but a sugar lump.
Taking your horse all the way to Tokyo sounds cruel in itself. Not sure if they go by plane or boat but they must be traumatized. Remember the protests at the export of live animals for slaughter.
And if the poor buggers are ridden to the event then they are probably too tired to jump anyway. It's a toffs sport and we all know how they treat the rest of society ... Enough said "
GB event riders - Son of a milkman, son of a vet and daughter of a single mother who worked multiple jobs. They are people who have worked extremely hard to get where they are. |
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"More than one issue here. Pot luck on picking a horse that you have never met is ridiculous. You could be given either Shergar or a Blackpool Donkey. It's like having a triathlon and giving one rider a racing bike and the other a kids trike. Imagine being at a swingers club. Picking a couple in a draw and having to have sex after 20 minutes. If they refuse do you punch them?
The showjumpers get the medal and the horse seems to get nothing but a sugar lump.
Taking your horse all the way to Tokyo sounds cruel in itself. Not sure if they go by plane or boat but they must be traumatized. Remember the protests at the export of live animals for slaughter.
And if the poor buggers are ridden to the event then they are probably too tired to jump anyway. It's a toffs sport and we all know how they treat the rest of society ... Enough said
GB event riders - Son of a milkman, son of a vet and daughter of a single mother who worked multiple jobs. They are people who have worked extremely hard to get where they are. "
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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I've travelled miles to a show only to have my horse jump perfectly in the warm-up arena and then refuse to jump in the show ring...that's horses for you you can't get mad about it and certainly don't hit them! They have bad days like we do |
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"More than one issue here. Pot luck on picking a horse that you have never met is ridiculous. You could be given either Shergar or a Blackpool Donkey. It's like having a triathlon and giving one rider a racing bike and the other a kids trike. Imagine being at a swingers club. Picking a couple in a draw and having to have sex after 20 minutes. If they refuse do you punch them?
The showjumpers get the medal and the horse seems to get nothing but a sugar lump.
Taking your horse all the way to Tokyo sounds cruel in itself. Not sure if they go by plane or boat but they must be traumatized. Remember the protests at the export of live animals for slaughter.
And if the poor buggers are ridden to the event then they are probably too tired to jump anyway. It's a toffs sport and we all know how they treat the rest of society ... Enough said "
Firstly the horse world travel in planes with individual stalls and they get a ridiculous amount of care and attention before, during and after travel. So that's just the start of putting your comments to bed as for being tired that's another stupid comment as they are athletes trained to high fitness. And "toffs" that's hilarious you have watched too many costume dramas as the majority of horse owners are not rich and certainly not toffs as you like to refer to them. Being rich and owning a horse generally do not go together. So I think your rant is more to do with an out dated class war than anything else. |
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"A tap with a closed fist is in no way a punch imho.
Tony
Doesn't matter how how much force is behind the punch, it is still a fist connecting to body. Still unacceptable "
It's not like she climbed up on the poor animals back and heel kicked it to make it move. |
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Easiest way is to remove /change the event from horses to something else. Its stupid to fly horses in to have some stranger with 20 mins acquaintance with no or little concern for the horse to do that event
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"A tap with a closed fist is in no way a punch imho.
Tony
Doesn't matter how how much force is behind the punch, it is still a fist connecting to body. Still unacceptable
It's not like she climbed up on the poor animals back and heel kicked it to make it move."
No but the rider was rough with the horse and was totally selfish. Dhe wentvoff blubbering "poor me" shit. No medal for that pile of crap "boo hoo ' ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"Easiest way is to remove /change the event from horses to something else. Its stupid to fly horses in to have some stranger with 20 mins acquaintance with no or little concern for the horse to do that event
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They didn't fly the pentathlon horses to Japan. They were chosen from local stables. |
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"Easiest way is to remove /change the event from horses to something else. Its stupid to fly horses in to have some stranger with 20 mins acquaintance with no or little concern for the horse to do that event
They didn't fly the pentathlon horses to Japan. They were chosen from local stables. "
Easiest way is to remove /change the event from horses to something else. Its stupid to get a horse in to have some stranger with 20 mins acquaintance with no or little concern for the horse to do that event |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"Easiest way is to remove /change the event from horses to something else. Its stupid to fly horses in to have some stranger with 20 mins acquaintance with no or little concern for the horse to do that event
They didn't fly the pentathlon horses to Japan. They were chosen from local stables. "
Local stables.. that probably explains it...
The poor horse was probably out to pasture and rounded up at the last minute to make up the numbers.. it probably has never seen a jump in its life... It probably used to pull tourists around Tokyo in a carriage |
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"Easiest way is to remove /change the event from horses to something else. Its stupid to fly horses in to have some stranger with 20 mins acquaintance with no or little concern for the horse to do that event
They didn't fly the pentathlon horses to Japan. They were chosen from local stables.
Local stables.. that probably explains it...
The poor horse was probably out to pasture and rounded up at the last minute to make up the numbers.. it probably has never seen a jump in its life... It probably used to pull tourists around Tokyo in a carriage"
Wouldn't be surprised. Doesn't say much for the owners agreeing to it |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
STOKE ON TRENT |
"So it's ok to jab a horse with a sharp object, kick it with your heel or use a whip on it but a punch and everyone loses their mind!"
Yeah exactly and they are not needed shoot them it's all disgusting |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
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STOKE ON TRENT |
"So it's ok to jab a horse with a sharp object, kick it with your heel or use a whip on it but a punch and everyone loses their mind!
Yeah exactly and they are not needed shoot them it's all disgusting "
*when |
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"I think we should wait until we hear both sides of the story before we cast judgement
You never know what it said behind closed doors "
FFS I just spat my drink out |
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