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By *uenevere OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
There will be some who say it was some sort of deliberate act under team orders i bet"
Based on the attitude after the last race, it wouldn't surprise me all at
In reality, a crash early on in a wet race is quite common. Almost anticipated. |
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What did we all make of Alonso getting driver of the day?
Having dropped the ball at the beginning, inwas quite impressed with Hamiltons 18th to 3rd. A handful more laps and i reckon he would have been challenging for P1 |
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over a year ago
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Just read that Seb has been disqualified, they where not able to extract enough fuel from his car for a 1litre sample. Was cheering him, Ocon and Russel on the whole race. |
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice."
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seb disqualified!! Joke! "
It’s not really. That rule has been enforced for years. Although it’s a while since I’ve seen anyone fall foul of it. It’s about making sure the teams are sticking with the fuel consumption rules and not trying to force extra power out of the engines. I’m gutted he got DQ but it’s pointless having the technical rules if they don’t enforce them. |
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Having 1ltr of fuel at the end has always been a thing in the current engine formula, and was even a thing in the last years of V8's, won't be a fun day tomorrow for me on some calls though as Seb deserved the 2nd spot! |
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made "
Absolutely spot on - yes I’m a self confessed Lewis fan however have respect for all the drivers for what they do - shows that Lewis is a true legendary driver to come through the pack whereas Max barely made a dent in it - he can lead from the front but that’s not hard. Alonso was spectacular though - yes he pissed me off because I think Lewis could have won if he hadn’t held him back for so many laps but it was still bloody good to watch!!
I see Max for his dig in about being taken out by Mercedes which was bull crap - total racing incident on a wet track and it could have been any of them. He’s had his say and appeal about the last rac and lost so give up. Other drivers have said it was both of them at fault. The crowd are shameful for booing Lewis - very unsportsmanlike  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made "
Actually hearing George Russel telling Williams to focus their efforts on Latifi to help the team get max points is one of the most refreshing things I’ve ever heard in F1. Talk about selfless. |
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over a year ago
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated? "
Are you serious? You think Mercedes would sacrifice points in the constructors championship just to wipe out a rival. |
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made
Actually hearing George Russel telling Williams to focus their efforts on Latifi to help the team get max points is one of the most refreshing things I’ve ever heard in F1. Talk about selfless. "
Hearing him say that made my day a little brighter, he seems like a lovely genuine guy. I’m truly hoping for a Mercedes seat for George next season  |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated? "
Oh come on. Bottas clobbers a car that isn't a Red Bull and might or might not hit something that might or might not be a Red Bull.
Max needs to grow up; stupid comments from him post-race, but then as we know...
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated? "
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
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"Seb disqualified!! Joke!
It’s not really. That rule has been enforced for years. Although it’s a while since I’ve seen anyone fall foul of it. It’s about making sure the teams are sticking with the fuel consumption rules and not trying to force extra power out of the engines. I’m gutted he got DQ but it’s pointless having the technical rules if they don’t enforce them. "
I've been watching F1 since the day of dawn, and there were many drivers that actually ran out of fuel before the end of the race, even in the days of refueling! |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
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Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!! |
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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
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Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!! "
I agree this was an accident, but to say things like this are never on purpose would be wrong , Renault crashgate in 2008, someone taking hill out to win the championship in Australia, the same person getting a ban for trying to take out Villeneuve, and let's not mention the Japanese race in 1990..(,I think it was 1990). |
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made
Absolutely spot on - yes I’m a self confessed Lewis fan however have respect for all the drivers for what they do - shows that Lewis is a true legendary driver to come through the pack whereas Max barely made a dent in it - he can lead from the front but that’s not hard. Alonso was spectacular though - yes he pissed me off because I think Lewis could have won if he hadn’t held him back for so many laps but it was still bloody good to watch!!
I see Max for his dig in about being taken out by Mercedes which was bull crap - total racing incident on a wet track and it could have been any of them. He’s had his say and appeal about the last rac and lost so give up. Other drivers have said it was both of them at fault. The crowd are shameful for booing Lewis - very unsportsmanlike "
I’m no Verstappen fan but he can hardly be criticised for not making up places - with the impact he took from Norris’ car (which had to be retired) it’s a wonder he managed to finish at all. Limping around and gaining a point was a good result for him given the circumstances. |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
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Yes I an not Hamilton fan. Start yes was racing accident . Bottas has five grid place penalty . Having read several F1 forums, plus my opinion. Red Bull due to damage to their cars are now at a disadvantage . This due to cost caps. I am not sure yet . Perez said engine u/s . From accident . Plus Max engine showing fault from last accident. This could mean lack of spare engines at end / second half season. Cost of repairs to both cars. My view is any accident to cars . Unless fault of driver . Their mistake. Is out of cost cap. |
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By *rilogyMan
over a year ago
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made
Absolutely spot on - yes I’m a self confessed Lewis fan however have respect for all the drivers for what they do - shows that Lewis is a true legendary driver to come through the pack whereas Max barely made a dent in it - he can lead from the front but that’s not hard. Alonso was spectacular though - yes he pissed me off because I think Lewis could have won if he hadn’t held him back for so many laps but it was still bloody good to watch!!
I see Max for his dig in about being taken out by Mercedes which was bull crap - total racing incident on a wet track and it could have been any of them. He’s had his say and appeal about the last rac and lost so give up. Other drivers have said it was both of them at fault. The crowd are shameful for booing Lewis - very unsportsmanlike "
You do know Max car was damaged, he of done what Hamilton of done to if not, Only a matter of time now before Red Bull use Perez to take out Hamilton in a future race after the last 2 races. |
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"Seb disqualified!! Joke!
It’s not really. That rule has been enforced for years. Although it’s a while since I’ve seen anyone fall foul of it. It’s about making sure the teams are sticking with the fuel consumption rules and not trying to force extra power out of the engines. I’m gutted he got DQ but it’s pointless having the technical rules if they don’t enforce them.
I've been watching F1 since the day of dawn, and there were many drivers that actually ran out of fuel before the end of the race, even in the days of refueling! "
Yes. And the tulle about having fuel samples has been brought in since the cars ran out of fuel in your day. It’s been a DQ if there wasn’t a minimum fuel sample available for a long time now. I can’t remember who the last driver it happened to was but it’s definitely been in the last 15 years.
Oh and I respect that you have watched F1 for a long time but I’m a volunteer race marshal (admittedly I haven’t done it for a while) but I’m familiar with the paddock and the different rules from working there. He hasn’t been singled out. What’s likely happened is that in the excitement of being high up the field again for Aston Martin, his engineers have probably forgotten to get him to change the fuel map back to the lower consumption one after a fast stint. |
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It was an awesome race!
Clumsy from Bottas but I imagine easily done on a wet track with cold tyres and brakes and a loss of downforce from the car in front. It wasn't reckless or deliberate though. God knows what Stroll was thinking, its like he forgot it was raining.
Max did well to get a point in half a car, he was missing most of his floor!
Great comeback from Hamilton, he'd have won if it wasn't for Alonso's strong defence. He overtook a lot of people on difficult track.
Pleased but gutted for Russell, he got points but he should have finished higher, it looked like he had an engine issue after the restart.
Well done to Ocon, a fortuitous win obviously, but he kept it together and kept Vettel away. Xx |
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"Yes I an not Hamilton fan. Start yes was racing accident . Bottas has five grid place penalty . Having read several F1 forums, plus my opinion. Red Bull due to damage to their cars are now at a disadvantage . This due to cost caps. I am not sure yet . Perez said engine u/s . From accident . Plus Max engine showing fault from last accident. This could mean lack of spare engines at end / second half season. Cost of repairs to both cars. My view is any accident to cars . Unless fault of driver . Their mistake. Is out of cost cap. "
Yeah I think crash damage should be excluded. Technical failures are fair enough. But the idea is to reduce R&D costs, not cripple a team because someone crashed into them xx |
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"It was an awesome race!
Clumsy from Bottas but I imagine easily done on a wet track with cold tyres and brakes and a loss of downforce from the car in front. It wasn't reckless or deliberate though. God knows what Stroll was thinking, its like he forgot it was raining.
Max did well to get a point in half a car, he was missing most of his floor!
Great comeback from Hamilton, he'd have won if it wasn't for Alonso's strong defence. He overtook a lot of people on difficult track.
“Pleased but gutted for Russell, he got points but he should have finished higher, it looked like he had an engine issue after the restart.”
Well done to Ocon, a fortuitous win obviously, but he kept it together and kept Vettel away. Xx"
Wasn’t an engine issue. He overtook a load of people in the pit Lane illegally (I’m not sure if the exact details) but he got told to give back the places over the radio which is why he dropped back to about 7th in the first lap. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Actually hearing George Russel telling Williams to focus their efforts on Latifi to help the team get max points is one of the most refreshing things I’ve ever heard in F1. Talk about selfless. "
Awesome to hear him focusing on the team not himself |
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made
Absolutely spot on - yes I’m a self confessed Lewis fan however have respect for all the drivers for what they do - shows that Lewis is a true legendary driver to come through the pack whereas Max barely made a dent in it - he can lead from the front but that’s not hard. Alonso was spectacular though - yes he pissed me off because I think Lewis could have won if he hadn’t held him back for so many laps but it was still bloody good to watch!!
I see Max for his dig in about being taken out by Mercedes which was bull crap - total racing incident on a wet track and it could have been any of them. He’s had his say and appeal about the last rac and lost so give up. Other drivers have said it was both of them at fault. The crowd are shameful for booing Lewis - very unsportsmanlike You do know Max car was damaged, he of done what Hamilton of done to if not, Only a matter of time now before Red Bull use Perez to take out Hamilton in a future race after the last 2 races."
So you actually think Red Bull can do that with no guarantee of what the outcome of the incident will be? |
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"It was an awesome race!
Clumsy from Bottas but I imagine easily done on a wet track with cold tyres and brakes and a loss of downforce from the car in front. It wasn't reckless or deliberate though. God knows what Stroll was thinking, its like he forgot it was raining.
Max did well to get a point in half a car, he was missing most of his floor!
Great comeback from Hamilton, he'd have won if it wasn't for Alonso's strong defence. He overtook a lot of people on difficult track.
“Pleased but gutted for Russell, he got points but he should have finished higher, it looked like he had an engine issue after the restart.”
Well done to Ocon, a fortuitous win obviously, but he kept it together and kept Vettel away. Xx
Wasn’t an engine issue. He overtook a load of people in the pit Lane illegally (I’m not sure if the exact details) but he got told to give back the places over the radio which is why he dropped back to about 7th in the first lap. "
Oh ok, thanks.
I didn't know Vettel was disqualified! Xx |
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Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long. |
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"Oops... Red Bull will be spitting feathers. Bottas hit them both  "
I felt sorry for Hamilton yesterday but that guy kept his place till the end
The one he won
Forgot his name ... something with A
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"Really enjoyed the race!! They can boo all they like but I’d like to see anyone else come back like Hamilton twice.
Exactly, the camaraderie between the drivers is amazing, even if mistakes are made
Absolutely spot on - yes I’m a self confessed Lewis fan however have respect for all the drivers for what they do - shows that Lewis is a true legendary driver to come through the pack whereas Max barely made a dent in it - he can lead from the front but that’s not hard. Alonso was spectacular though - yes he pissed me off because I think Lewis could have won if he hadn’t held him back for so many laps but it was still bloody good to watch!!
I see Max for his dig in about being taken out by Mercedes which was bull crap - total racing incident on a wet track and it could have been any of them. He’s had his say and appeal about the last rac and lost so give up. Other drivers have said it was both of them at fault. The crowd are shameful for booing Lewis - very unsportsmanlike "
"very unsportsman like" Really ??? |
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"It was an awesome race!
Clumsy from Bottas but I imagine easily done on a wet track with cold tyres and brakes and a loss of downforce from the car in front. It wasn't reckless or deliberate though. God knows what Stroll was thinking, its like he forgot it was raining.
Max did well to get a point in half a car, he was missing most of his floor!
Great comeback from Hamilton, he'd have won if it wasn't for Alonso's strong defence. He overtook a lot of people on difficult track.
Pleased but gutted for Russell, he got points but he should have finished higher, it looked like he had an engine issue after the restart.
Well done to Ocon, a fortuitous win obviously, but he kept it together and kept Vettel away. Xx"
Hamilton should of won if he didn't went one more lap
But fair play for him
From 16 th till the second ?
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"Seb disqualified!! Joke!
It’s not really. That rule has been enforced for years. Although it’s a while since I’ve seen anyone fall foul of it. It’s about making sure the teams are sticking with the fuel consumption rules and not trying to force extra power out of the engines. I’m gutted he got DQ but it’s pointless having the technical rules if they don’t enforce them.
I've been watching F1 since the day of dawn, and there were many drivers that actually ran out of fuel before the end of the race, even in the days of refueling!
Yes. And the tulle about having fuel samples has been brought in since the cars ran out of fuel in your day. It’s been a DQ if there wasn’t a minimum fuel sample available for a long time now. I can’t remember who the last driver it happened to was but it’s definitely been in the last 15 years.
Oh and I respect that you have watched F1 for a long time but I’m a volunteer race marshal (admittedly I haven’t done it for a while) but I’m familiar with the paddock and the different rules from working there. He hasn’t been singled out. What’s likely happened is that in the excitement of being high up the field again for Aston Martin, his engineers have probably forgotten to get him to change the fuel map back to the lower consumption one after a fast stint. "
not sure they are allowed to change maps from inside the car now |
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"Seb disqualified!! Joke!
It’s not really. That rule has been enforced for years. Although it’s a while since I’ve seen anyone fall foul of it. It’s about making sure the teams are sticking with the fuel consumption rules and not trying to force extra power out of the engines. I’m gutted he got DQ but it’s pointless having the technical rules if they don’t enforce them.
I've been watching F1 since the day of dawn, and there were many drivers that actually ran out of fuel before the end of the race, even in the days of refueling!
Yes. And the tulle about having fuel samples has been brought in since the cars ran out of fuel in your day. It’s been a DQ if there wasn’t a minimum fuel sample available for a long time now. I can’t remember who the last driver it happened to was but it’s definitely been in the last 15 years.
Oh and I respect that you have watched F1 for a long time but I’m a volunteer race marshal (admittedly I haven’t done it for a while) but I’m familiar with the paddock and the different rules from working there. He hasn’t been singled out. What’s likely happened is that in the excitement of being high up the field again for Aston Martin, his engineers have probably forgotten to get him to change the fuel map back to the lower consumption one after a fast stint.
not sure they are allowed to change maps from inside the car now"
I’m not 100% sure it’s done from the car or the pit wall but They do it all the time. You hear the drivers being told napping 1 etc. There are specific periods where it’s banned like the first few laps after safety cars or at the start of the race etc. Same way DRS is banned at the same periods |
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"Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long. "
I agree to some extent - I think if you break a regulation then there has to be SOME sort of penalty, but a DQ for having 380ml of fuel left instead of 1000ml seems insane. A time or place penalty should be the most he received. |
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"Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long.
I agree to some extent - I think if you break a regulation then there has to be SOME sort of penalty, but a DQ for having 380ml of fuel left instead of 1000ml seems insane. A time or place penalty should be the most he received. "
Dunno why they don't just take a sample before they start the race, seems logical to me |
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"Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long.
I agree to some extent - I think if you break a regulation then there has to be SOME sort of penalty, but a DQ for having 380ml of fuel left instead of 1000ml seems insane. A time or place penalty should be the most he received.
Dunno why they don't just take a sample before they start the race, seems logical to me "
To ensure that what they have used during a race is legal. Because that’s the rules. The penalty is well known which is why it’s so rarely an issue because it’s hardly broken. I’m not really sure what people’s problem is. There’s a black and white rule which has been broken and the stated punishment has been given. Aston Martin won’t appeal because they know the rule. I’ve just rewatched the race and Vettel and Russel both stop on the cool down lap because they both know they are at risk of not having enough fuel to give the correct sample and Russel must have just had enough. |
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"Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long. "
Bottas gets 5 place grid penalty for his part in the pile up. About average for that kind of incident. |
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"Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long.
I agree to some extent - I think if you break a regulation then there has to be SOME sort of penalty, but a DQ for having 380ml of fuel left instead of 1000ml seems insane. A time or place penalty should be the most he received.
Dunno why they don't just take a sample before they start the race, seems logical to me
To ensure that what they have used during a race is legal. Because that’s the rules. The penalty is well known which is why it’s so rarely an issue because it’s hardly broken. I’m not really sure what people’s problem is. There’s a black and white rule which has been broken and the stated punishment has been given. Aston Martin won’t appeal because they know the rule. I’ve just rewatched the race and Vettel and Russel both stop on the cool down lap because they both know they are at risk of not having enough fuel to give the correct sample and Russel must have just had enough. "
Ah ok, I just enjoy watching the race, I don't know all the technical rules that they've brought in over the years |
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"Absolute joke by FIA Seb gets that for "not filling his tank up" while Blotto gets hee-haw for his shinanigans at start. Alonso was the best driver though...made my day watching Hamilton stuck behind him for so long.
I agree to some extent - I think if you break a regulation then there has to be SOME sort of penalty, but a DQ for having 380ml of fuel left instead of 1000ml seems insane. A time or place penalty should be the most he received.
Dunno why they don't just take a sample before they start the race, seems logical to me "
The rule is they have to be able to give 1kg of fuel at any point in the weekend while the car is in Parc ferme. So it's a pisser, the reason some were short of fuel is that the teams want to run as little fuel as possible and calculate an amount of lift and coast/low map into the race, and don't try run a full tank, Seb was racing start to end, and no real chance to lift and coast, hence the shortness of fuel. The team should have warned him last couple laps, but was trying to fend of Lewis then, so just one of those things, feel for him, but rules are rules. |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
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Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!!
I agree this was an accident, but to say things like this are never on purpose would be wrong , Renault crashgate in 2008, someone taking hill out to win the championship in Australia, the same person getting a ban for trying to take out Villeneuve, and let's not mention the Japanese race in 1990..(,I think it was 1990). "
when schumacher parked his car across the track at monaco qualifying, they said a driver of that calibre can place his car within an inch, im sure bottas is quite capable, if he so wished of shunting one car into another and who lost the most points? I cant say it was done on purpose BUT it is possible.... at least admit it might have been done on purpose, what would be the betting odds of the championship leader being taken off twice by the same team one week after the other? very high! |
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It's funny how most people seem to think these guys can calculate the outcome of causing and accident on purpose. There's no way Bottas would have purposely crushed into Lando and know that Max was going to be involved in that accident and get damage to his car. |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
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Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!! "
I think that's what most people don't seem to understand. There's no way you can cause an accident on purpose and be 100% you won't injure or kill someone,yourself included. |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
?
Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!!
I think that's what most people don't seem to understand. There's no way you can cause an accident on purpose and be 100% you won't injure or kill someone,yourself included."
george russel is a dumb ass then because he has accused bottas of having no respect for safety before, after he took him off... google it |
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"has bottas got a new contract with mercedes yet? for however many millions most on here would do it! Im not saying he did, but there was a crash and he was the cause.... "
Like you said ' most on here and no one here is an F1 driver. Bottas might not be driving for Mercedes next season and I don't think they would ask him to risk his life for any amount of money. |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
?
Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!!
I think that's what most people don't seem to understand. There's no way you can cause an accident on purpose and be 100% you won't injure or kill someone,yourself included.
george russel is a dumb ass then because he has accused bottas of having no respect for safety before, after he took him off... google it"
It was an accident and they happen a lot in F1 . Just because George said something it doesn't make it true and he later apologised for his comments and behaviour towards Bottas that day. Google it . |
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"George Russell accused Valtteri Bottas of lacking respect for the dangers of Formula 1 after they crashed in the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix."
And you need to remember that George crashed into Bottas when he was trying to overtake. |
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"has bottas got a new contract with mercedes yet? for however many millions most on here would do it! Im not saying he did, but there was a crash and he was the cause.... "
If Bottas can calculate crashing into Lando, at that speed and that angle at that time, knowing he would take out the red bull cars... Then I say hats off to him he earned his seat and multi million euro contract... |
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"has bottas got a new contract with mercedes yet? for however many millions most on here would do it! Im not saying he did, but there was a crash and he was the cause.... "
Looking like he’s going to Alfa Romeo |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
?
Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!!
I agree this was an accident, but to say things like this are never on purpose would be wrong , Renault crashgate in 2008, someone taking hill out to win the championship in Australia, the same person getting a ban for trying to take out Villeneuve, and let's not mention the Japanese race in 1990..(,I think it was 1990).
when schumacher parked his car across the track at monaco qualifying, they said a driver of that calibre can place his car within an inch, im sure bottas is quite capable, if he so wished of shunting one car into another and who lost the most points? I cant say it was done on purpose BUT it is possible.... at least admit it might have been done on purpose, what would be the betting odds of the championship leader being taken off twice by the same team one week after the other? very high!"
It was not deliberate. FACT.
The thing you have to look at…… Mercedes are more interested in the Manufacturer’s championship than they are in the drivers championship. There is absolutely zero chance they are going to instruct one of their drivers who has a high chance of scoring a good amount of points, to crash into a rival and remove himself from the race and therefore gain zero points for them in the manufacturer’s championship. It’s not going to happen. Ever. The incident you refer to with Schumacher was orchestrated by him alone. Because it benefited him alone. Additionally Bottas isn’t likely to be with Mercedes next season so crashing out deliberately or otherwise damages his negotiating leverage because potential teams can point to his DNF’s to offer him less money.
There is no conspiracy. Bottas made a mistake and it cause an unpredictable chain reaction. It could just as easily have taken out Hamilton. |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
?
Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!!
I think that's what most people don't seem to understand. There's no way you can cause an accident on purpose and be 100% you won't injure or kill someone,yourself included.
george russel is a dumb ass then because he has accused bottas of having no respect for safety before, after he took him off... google it
It was an accident and they happen a lot in F1 . Just because George said something it doesn't make it true and he later apologised for his comments and behaviour towards Bottas that day. Google it ."
There point is its not a slam dunk, bottas wouldn't, he might.... no one can say he wouldn't with 100% certainty |
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Not read the thread as too long and people arguing about the crashes.
But just want to say what a race! Unbelievable stuff. The Alonso Hamilton battle was epic.
Gutted for vettel that red tape has robbed him of 2nd. |
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"Yeah they wont be happy
At least it wasn't Hamilton that was to blame...
No but his team mate takes out main rival again following week! are we sure this isnt orchestrated?
Do you seriously think that
A) Bottas would risk himself in such a way to aid Hamilton
B) Bottas has enough skill to be able to crash into Lance Stroll in such a way that he then takes out one Red Bull while Stroll takes out the other
?
Bottas rear ended Norris not Stroll but I won’t hold that against you.
Anyone thinking an F1 driver would risk his own and other drivers lives for points is a total dumb ass - it was a racing incident on a semi wet track wirh tyres not ideal for the track!!
I agree this was an accident, but to say things like this are never on purpose would be wrong , Renault crashgate in 2008, someone taking hill out to win the championship in Australia, the same person getting a ban for trying to take out Villeneuve, and let's not mention the Japanese race in 1990..(,I think it was 1990).
when schumacher parked his car across the track at monaco qualifying, they said a driver of that calibre can place his car within an inch, im sure bottas is quite capable, if he so wished of shunting one car into another and who lost the most points? I cant say it was done on purpose BUT it is possible.... at least admit it might have been done on purpose, what would be the betting odds of the championship leader being taken off twice by the same team one week after the other? very high!
It was not deliberate. FACT.
The thing you have to look at…… Mercedes are more interested in the Manufacturer’s championship than they are in the drivers championship. There is absolutely zero chance they are going to instruct one of their drivers who has a high chance of scoring a good amount of points, to crash into a rival and remove himself from the race and therefore gain zero points for them in the manufacturer’s championship. It’s not going to happen. Ever. The incident you refer to with Schumacher was orchestrated by him alone. Because it benefited him alone. Additionally Bottas isn’t likely to be with Mercedes next season so crashing out deliberately or otherwise damages his negotiating leverage because potential teams can point to his DNF’s to offer him less money.
There is no conspiracy. Bottas made a mistake and it cause an unpredictable chain reaction. It could just as easily have taken out Hamilton. "
At least someone knows what they're talking about |
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