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Now whilst the Olympics have picked up the taking the knee gesture, dina asher Smith agitating to make political statements at ceremonies et Al... We have the Norwegian handball team being fined for not wearing tiny bikini bottoms and the German gymnasts team causing outrage for wearing leggings for modesty rather than revealing leotards. In the 21st century shouldn't the Olympic movement be doing a bit more to address the sexism and sexualisation that so clearly exists in the events they promote... Beach volleyball being another great example. |
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Diht be silly. Those beach volley ball outdoors are clearly for the safety of the players. The European governing body made that clear at the time.
I think the male player should be up in arms as clearly their safety isn't important given the length of their shorts and baggyness of their vests.
Kudos to P!nk for offering to pay their fine.
This was for the European championships though. Not sure if the IOC have waded in or not? |
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"Diht be silly. Those beach volley ball outdoors are clearly for the safety of the players. The European governing body made that clear at the time.
I think the male player should be up in arms as clearly their safety isn't important given the length of their shorts and baggyness of their vests.
Kudos to P!nk for offering to pay their fine.
This was for the European championships though. Not sure if the IOC have waded in or not? "
I'd just hope that if they can be a voice for racial equality that they could use their voice and platform to address the growing sexualisation of sports. Don't get me wrong I love looking at the beach volleyball but you can't tell me it's right.... and then you read about "stealthing" which apparently is a thing... |
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"Diht be silly. Those beach volley ball outdoors are clearly for the safety of the players. The European governing body made that clear at the time.
I think the male player should be up in arms as clearly their safety isn't important given the length of their shorts and baggyness of their vests.
Kudos to P!nk for offering to pay their fine.
This was for the European championships though. Not sure if the IOC have waded in or not?
I'd just hope that if they can be a voice for racial equality that they could use their voice and platform to address the growing sexualisation of sports. Don't get me wrong I love looking at the beach volleyball but you can't tell me it's right.... and then you read about "stealthing" which apparently is a thing... "
Not at the Olympics I would hope!
There have been advances in terms of dress for a lot of athletes and there are some safety elements in sports but you're right. In this day and age we should just focus on the sport and let the athletes wear whatever they are comfortable in, providing its safe for the sport. |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
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A lot has to do with tv audiences . Sports like beach volley ball females. I gave also an instance on another thread from years ago when I think the east german swim teams requested that they swim nude. Research had shown that if no costumes and totally shaved this would decrease water resistance and so faster times. Also certain clothing may give advantage. So sizes etc regulated . |
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"Now whilst the Olympics have picked up the taking the knee gesture, dina asher Smith agitating to make political statements at ceremonies et Al... We have the Norwegian handball team being fined for not wearing tiny bikini bottoms and the German gymnasts team causing outrage for wearing leggings for modesty rather than revealing leotards. In the 21st century shouldn't the Olympic movement be doing a bit more to address the sexism and sexualisation that so clearly exists in the events they promote... Beach volleyball being another great example. "
The thing about the Norwegian women’s beach handball team ... that wasn’t at the Olympics |
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"Now whilst the Olympics have picked up the taking the knee gesture, dina asher Smith agitating to make political statements at ceremonies et Al... We have the Norwegian handball team being fined for not wearing tiny bikini bottoms and the German gymnasts team causing outrage for wearing leggings for modesty rather than revealing leotards. In the 21st century shouldn't the Olympic movement be doing a bit more to address the sexism and sexualisation that so clearly exists in the events they promote... Beach volleyball being another great example.
The thing about the Norwegian women’s beach handball team ... that wasn’t at the Olympics "
... and the Germans “causing outrage” by wearing unitards? I’ve seen nothing but positive coverage about that development. And it’s not new in gymnastics. |
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Also there was a para-athlete who was told by an official her shorts where too short!
Even though loads of other female athletes wear them and she has worn them previously without any issues. |
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"Also there was a para-athlete who was told by an official her shorts where too short!
Even though loads of other female athletes wear them and she has worn them previously without any issues."
That wasn’t at the Olympics either. They was some dipstick of an official at a low-level athletics meet. |
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"Also there was a para-athlete who was told by an official her shorts where too short!
Even though loads of other female athletes wear them and she has worn them previously without any issues.
That wasn’t at the Olympics either. They was some dipstick of an official at a low-level athletics meet. "
But all relevant points in terms of women in sport and how they are sexualised. |
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By *abs..Woman
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I was traumatised by having to wear bottle green gym knickers for PE when I was at school.
There is no need at all for them to have to wear the revealing outfits. They are athletes competing, knickers on sand is not a good combination and I bet it was a decision of a male in the first instance.
Times have changed and the Olympic committee needs to change as well.
Great of Pink to pay the fine but such a shame there was a need. |
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The issue is culture not clothing. Athletes should be able to wear whatever the want within reasonable practicality and as long as it doesn't enhance performance. These are serious Athletes and we shouldn't be telling them to wear less or cover up more. As far as I'm concerned they should be able to compete completely nude or in baggy joggers and a sweatshirt if they wish. We should treat our athletes with the respect they deserve. They cover a whole range of bodies movement in sports like gymnastics and they shouldn't have to worry if someone will get off on seeing some camel toe or exposed arse cheeks. The problem here is it seems we have governing body's that seem to be enforcing a limit dress code that seems to be more about a desire to show skin than about safety or fairness. Let athletes wear what they feel comfortable competing in whether that be completely nothing or everything. It's their bodies to decide what they're comfortable competing in. |
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"I was traumatised by having to wear bottle green gym knickers for PE when I was at school.
There is no need at all for them to have to wear the revealing outfits. They are athletes competing, knickers on sand is not a good combination and I bet it was a decision of a male in the first instance.
Times have changed and the Olympic committee needs to change as well.
Great of Pink to pay the fine but such a shame there was a need. "
I agree in the 21st century its shocking the team were not objecting to their sports bra tops just the pants and the shorts were very safe, safer than the men's so they should be allowed to wear what makes them comfortable, as they are in the public eye on world events. I also hated gym knickers and pe teachers were perverts. |
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katelyn ohashi Sed it best when she snubbed the us team in 2012 and snubbed them again in 2019 with going in to full retirement
If you don’t know who she is she is UCLA gymnast that went viral in 2015 for scoring a perfect 10 on the floor |
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"I was traumatised by having to wear bottle green gym knickers for PE when I was at school.
There is no need at all for them to have to wear the revealing outfits. They are athletes competing, knickers on sand is not a good combination and I bet it was a decision of a male in the first instance.
Times have changed and the Olympic committee needs to change as well.
Great of Pink to pay the fine but such a shame there was a need. "
See comments like that make me uncomfortable. Women are just as capable as men of sexualising men and indeed themselves and/or choosing to wear skimpy clothing. It wasn't men who fought social outrage when bikinis first appeared or mini skirts. It wasn't a man that told Olivia Breen she had to do long jump (into a sand pit) in a pair of basically knickers, and it wasn't a man who told her they were inappropriate.
We need to get away from this narrative that its all about men dictating what women do with their bodies. It really isn't. Yes there are men who want to perv on attractive women, yes there are men who believe women should cover up but equally there are a lot of women who will tell other women that their dress is inappropriate, too revealing, not revealing enough and indeed women who enjoy the attention they get from displaying their bodies and deliberately dress in a way to get that attention.
It's funny how everyone who comments on these threads about how others shouldn't tell women what to wear will be garunteed to have their own views on what is or isn't acceptable. Her ladyship was quite annoyed at a topless male in a supermarket the other day (apparently the skin of his chest is more unhygienic than a dirty workshirt or even that of his hands). How many would be happy turning up to collect their kids from school to see another mum dressed in nipple tassles and a thong? How many women get upset about other women wearing a Burkha?
What we are talking about are social norms, dress codes that are deemed socially acceptable. In the middle ground, most people would agree wearing a mankini to the garden centre or nipple tassels on the school run isn't the done thing. At the limits though there are differences of opinion. Some athletes will say they prefer tight/skimpy clothes others will say they don't want them. Some will enjoy the fact that the opposite sex perv over their bodies (and this isn't a man thing, there was a thread a while back full of women extolling the physiques of swimmers and other athletes etc). Others will hate the idea that people are watching them to enjoy the spectacle of a superbly honed body perform rather than for their sporting achievements.
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"katelyn ohashi Sed it best when she snubbed the us team in 2012 and snubbed them again in 2019 with going in to full retirement
If you don’t know who she is she is UCLA gymnast that went viral in 2015 for scoring a perfect 10 on the floor "
Probably as well known for the Toyota advert now.... |
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"Also there was a para-athlete who was told by an official her shorts where too short!
Even though loads of other female athletes wear them and she has worn them previously without any issues.
That wasn’t at the Olympics either. They was some dipstick of an official at a low-level athletics meet. "
I didn't say it was at the Olympics, the para events haven't even started yet.
It wasn't just some low level athletics meet it was the English Championships. |
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"I was traumatised by having to wear bottle green gym knickers for PE when I was at school.
There is no need at all for them to have to wear the revealing outfits. They are athletes competing, knickers on sand is not a good combination and I bet it was a decision of a male in the first instance.
Times have changed and the Olympic committee needs to change as well.
Great of Pink to pay the fine but such a shame there was a need.
See comments like that make me uncomfortable. Women are just as capable as men of sexualising men and indeed themselves and/or choosing to wear skimpy clothing. It wasn't men who fought social outrage when bikinis first appeared or mini skirts. It wasn't a man that told Olivia Breen she had to do long jump (into a sand pit) in a pair of basically knickers, and it wasn't a man who told her they were inappropriate.
We need to get away from this narrative that its all about men dictating what women do with their bodies. It really isn't. Yes there are men who want to perv on attractive women, yes there are men who believe women should cover up but equally there are a lot of women who will tell other women that their dress is inappropriate, too revealing, not revealing enough and indeed women who enjoy the attention they get from displaying their bodies and deliberately dress in a way to get that attention.
It's funny how everyone who comments on these threads about how others shouldn't tell women what to wear will be garunteed to have their own views on what is or isn't acceptable. Her ladyship was quite annoyed at a topless male in a supermarket the other day (apparently the skin of his chest is more unhygienic than a dirty workshirt or even that of his hands). How many would be happy turning up to collect their kids from school to see another mum dressed in nipple tassles and a thong? How many women get upset about other women wearing a Burkha?
What we are talking about are social norms, dress codes that are deemed socially acceptable. In the middle ground, most people would agree wearing a mankini to the garden centre or nipple tassels on the school run isn't the done thing. At the limits though there are differences of opinion. Some athletes will say they prefer tight/skimpy clothes others will say they don't want them. Some will enjoy the fact that the opposite sex perv over their bodies (and this isn't a man thing, there was a thread a while back full of women extolling the physiques of swimmers and other athletes etc). Others will hate the idea that people are watching them to enjoy the spectacle of a superbly honed body perform rather than for their sporting achievements.
Mr
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For me it's not whether it was male or female rule makers. It's the fact that rules exist about what can or can't be worn. That marks are lower. That the camerawork and advertising shots for beach volleyball, gymnatiscs are invariably arse or up skirt... If the Olympics can be used as a vehicle to address racial discrimination I'm sure they can be used to address some of the overt sexualisation.... In gymnastics we don't see camerawork focussing on the man's crotch or arse. We absolutely do in the girls (and in many cases they are still girls). If anyone thinks there isn't a problem with the behaviours towards young girls... Go talk to your daughters and see what really happens. |
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"katelyn ohashi Sed it best when she snubbed the us team in 2012 and snubbed them again in 2019 with going in to full retirement
If you don’t know who she is she is UCLA gymnast that went viral in 2015 for scoring a perfect 10 on the floor
Probably as well known for the Toyota advert now.... "
Probably I only know as I know couple off people who went to UCLA with her played Xbox with them and it was all they talked about for like a week soild before the video went viral |
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"I was traumatised by having to wear bottle green gym knickers for PE when I was at school.
There is no need at all for them to have to wear the revealing outfits. They are athletes competing, knickers on sand is not a good combination and I bet it was a decision of a male in the first instance.
Times have changed and the Olympic committee needs to change as well.
Great of Pink to pay the fine but such a shame there was a need.
See comments like that make me uncomfortable. Women are just as capable as men of sexualising men and indeed themselves and/or choosing to wear skimpy clothing. It wasn't men who fought social outrage when bikinis first appeared or mini skirts. It wasn't a man that told Olivia Breen she had to do long jump (into a sand pit) in a pair of basically knickers, and it wasn't a man who told her they were inappropriate.
We need to get away from this narrative that its all about men dictating what women do with their bodies. It really isn't. Yes there are men who want to perv on attractive women, yes there are men who believe women should cover up but equally there are a lot of women who will tell other women that their dress is inappropriate, too revealing, not revealing enough and indeed women who enjoy the attention they get from displaying their bodies and deliberately dress in a way to get that attention.
It's funny how everyone who comments on these threads about how others shouldn't tell women what to wear will be garunteed to have their own views on what is or isn't acceptable. Her ladyship was quite annoyed at a topless male in a supermarket the other day (apparently the skin of his chest is more unhygienic than a dirty workshirt or even that of his hands). How many would be happy turning up to collect their kids from school to see another mum dressed in nipple tassles and a thong? How many women get upset about other women wearing a Burkha?
What we are talking about are social norms, dress codes that are deemed socially acceptable. In the middle ground, most people would agree wearing a mankini to the garden centre or nipple tassels on the school run isn't the done thing. At the limits though there are differences of opinion. Some athletes will say they prefer tight/skimpy clothes others will say they don't want them. Some will enjoy the fact that the opposite sex perv over their bodies (and this isn't a man thing, there was a thread a while back full of women extolling the physiques of swimmers and other athletes etc). Others will hate the idea that people are watching them to enjoy the spectacle of a superbly honed body perform rather than for their sporting achievements.
Mr
For me it's not whether it was male or female rule makers. It's the fact that rules exist about what can or can't be worn. That marks are lower. That the camerawork and advertising shots for beach volleyball, gymnatiscs are invariably arse or up skirt... If the Olympics can be used as a vehicle to address racial discrimination I'm sure they can be used to address some of the overt sexualisation.... In gymnastics we don't see camerawork focussing on the man's crotch or arse. We absolutely do in the girls (and in many cases they are still girls). If anyone thinks there isn't a problem with the behaviours towards young girls... Go talk to your daughters and see what really happens. "
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