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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Apparently there is some sort of cross party committee for Formula 1. Why? I don't know.. Is there one for every sport? I don't know.

Lord Haynes has said the criticism of Lewis Hamilton by Christian Horner for the incident that resulted in Max Vetstappen crashing at 180mph has opened the floodgates for racist vitriol against Sir Lewis. My take is this. And I apologise if I have got the wrong end of the stick. In no way was Christian Horner racist. He just gave his opinion on the incident.

People looking for racism where it does not exist ..

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Apparently there is some sort of cross party committee for Formula 1. Why? I don't know.. Is there one for every sport? I don't know.

Lord Haynes has said the criticism of Lewis Hamilton by Christian Horner for the incident that resulted in Max Vetstappen crashing at 180mph has opened the floodgates for racist vitriol against Sir Lewis. My take is this. And I apologise if I have got the wrong end of the stick. In no way was Christian Horner racist. He just gave his opinion on the incident.

People looking for racism where it does not exist .."

Although I think that Horner was wrong, I agree that there was no racist comments in what he said.

Unfortunately those who are racist need little motivation to post their obnoxious views.

Cal

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Apparently there is some sort of cross party committee for Formula 1. Why? I don't know.. Is there one for every sport? I don't know.

Lord Haynes has said the criticism of Lewis Hamilton by Christian Horner for the incident that resulted in Max Vetstappen crashing at 180mph has opened the floodgates for racist vitriol against Sir Lewis. My take is this. And I apologise if I have got the wrong end of the stick. In no way was Christian Horner racist. He just gave his opinion on the incident.

People looking for racism where it does not exist ..

Although I think that Horner was wrong, I agree that there was no racist comments in what he said.

Unfortunately those who are racist need little motivation to post their obnoxious views.

Cal"

Agreed

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Calling his comments racist simply detracts from a very important cause...

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By *edeWoman  over a year ago

the abyss

What was his opinion of the incident? I never actually saw it but reading between the lines it sounds like one of those moments where neither driver was 100% right or wrong in their actions.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Calling his comments racist simply detracts from a very important cause... "

His comments are not racist but Lord H says that it empowers others to make racist comments

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By *ack and MiriCouple  over a year ago

Portsmouth


"Apparently there is some sort of cross party committee for Formula 1. Why? I don't know.. Is there one for every sport? I don't know.

Lord Haynes has said the criticism of Lewis Hamilton by Christian Horner for the incident that resulted in Max Vetstappen crashing at 180mph has opened the floodgates for racist vitriol against Sir Lewis. My take is this. And I apologise if I have got the wrong end of the stick. In no way was Christian Horner racist. He just gave his opinion on the incident.

People looking for racism where it does not exist ..

Although I think that Horner was wrong, I agree that there was no racist comments in what he said.

Unfortunately those who are racist need little motivation to post their obnoxious views.

Cal

Agreed "

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ??

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ?? "

You are afraid to discuss..

Let me signpost you to Tits out Tuesday

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

The point raised in a phone in on the radio is this.

If Lord Haynes is right.. can a person of colour ever be criticised ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ?? "

My question to you is this..

Why are you uncomfortable talking about racism ?

It's an important issue affecting our society..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My background is nascar.

If that crash had happened there would be no talking.

Just punch in the face later and punting the offender into the wall at the next race..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Calling his comments racist simply detracts from a very important cause...

His comments are not racist but Lord H says that it empowers others to make racist comments "

This is what it's about, not the content of what was said. As some has already pointed out, these silly little pricks don't need much to gee em up. If you're black and you make a mistake you get racist abuse not just abuse. Neither being acceptable in any society.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Apparently there is some sort of cross party committee for Formula 1. Why? I don't know.. Is there one for every sport? I don't know.

Lord Haynes has said the criticism of Lewis Hamilton by Christian Horner for the incident that resulted in Max Vetstappen crashing at 180mph has opened the floodgates for racist vitriol against Sir Lewis. My take is this. And I apologise if I have got the wrong end of the stick. In no way was Christian Horner racist. He just gave his opinion on the incident.

People looking for racism where it does not exist .."

Christian Horner was bang on, it was a dick move by Hamilton.

Max Verstapen had a good point as well.

Colour of a guys skin has nothing to do with it, and I can't see how either of them brought this up.

Move on, and racists can do the same as nazi punks.

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan  over a year ago

Birmingham

Its ok for verstappen to race hard and force drivers of the track like in Spain and many other races but when other drivers do it its dangerous and what not seriously F1 over the last few years has got so boring with these stupid penalties when their racing incidents. Hope next year is better

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"My background is nascar.

If that crash had happened there would be no talking.

Just punch in the face later and punting the offender into the wall at the next race.."

I love NASCAR.. is it true that the cars were souped up to outrun the cops and deliver the whisky ?

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By *ack and MiriCouple  over a year ago

Portsmouth

It is a shame I went to Silverstone the year before lockdown and it was the best natured sporting event, I have ever been to we were all there for the sport first then our teams or driver. It is a shame that there are racist knuckle dragging mouth breathers out there just waiting for an excuse to hate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My background is nascar.

If that crash had happened there would be no talking.

Just punch in the face later and punting the offender into the wall at the next race..

I love NASCAR.. is it true that the cars were souped up to outrun the cops and deliver the whisky ?"

Lol they say that because of the roots in the south.

But yeah it was illegal crossing county lines with moonshine so cars looked like what dad drive but run on methanol mix

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By *aul_j80Man  over a year ago

Bloxwich


"Calling his comments racist simply detracts from a very important cause...

His comments are not racist but Lord H says that it empowers others to make racist comments "

The Lord is a bloody idiot, so in his world no person of colour can ever be criticised, unless someone calls you a wacist! I thought the idea of racial equality was to treat everyone the same, I think the incident was 50/50, tough to call it either way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ??

My question to you is this..

Why are you uncomfortable talking about racism ?

It's an important issue affecting our society.. "

Because this is not the place ? Racism issue is not a chit chat over a sex site just because you are bored or can’t find a thread topic…

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By *ea monkeyMan  over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Ah yes, the very definition of a person who knows and understands racism; a lord.

No, the criticism didn’t open the door for racists to throw abuse at him. The fact that they’re racists is the reason.

Looking for excuses as to why racists throw abuse is like looking for excuses as to why women get attacked.

It’s the racists fault, not Christian Horner’s

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By *ea monkeyMan  over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ??

My question to you is this..

Why are you uncomfortable talking about racism ?

It's an important issue affecting our society..

Because this is not the place ? Racism issue is not a chit chat over a sex site just because you are bored or can’t find a thread topic… "

I absolutely disagree. Just because this is a swingers site, it doesn’t mean that people can’t discuss racism, sexism, rice pudding or biscuits.

The manner in which it’s being discussed is haphazard and massively biased with a clear and obvious agenda, but that’s a different matter

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ah yes, the very definition of a person who knows and understands racism; a lord.

No, the criticism didn’t open the door for racists to throw abuse at him. The fact that they’re racists is the reason.

Looking for excuses as to why racists throw abuse is like looking for excuses as to why women get attacked.

It’s the racists fault, not Christian Horner’s "

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By *ofdiamondsMan  over a year ago

Between wisbech & Kings lynn


"Apparently there is some sort of cross party committee for Formula 1. Why? I don't know.. Is there one for every sport? I don't know.

Lord Haynes has said the criticism of Lewis Hamilton by Christian Horner for the incident that resulted in Max Vetstappen crashing at 180mph has opened the floodgates for racist vitriol against Sir Lewis. My take is this. And I apologise if I have got the wrong end of the stick. In no way was Christian Horner racist. He just gave his opinion on the incident.

People looking for racism where it does not exist .."

There's no racism at all in what Horner said but just like how there was a ton of vitriol after England lost on penalties, the racists always show their ugly heads

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By *ofdiamondsMan  over a year ago

Between wisbech & Kings lynn

Hamilton has endured monkey noises etc in Spain before as well as various things in other countries. Not right but sadly not new

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By *ack and MiriCouple  over a year ago

Portsmouth

Horners comments as much as I disagree with them were born out of intense emotions not racism.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Calling his comments racist simply detracts from a very important cause...

His comments are not racist but Lord H says that it empowers others to make racist comments

This is what it's about, not the content of what was said. As some has already pointed out, these silly little pricks don't need much to gee em up. If you're black and you make a mistake you get racist abuse not just abuse. Neither being acceptable in any society."

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Winging spice aka horner did throw his toys out, well over the top accusing hamilton of trying to kill max, i see it the other way, but never mind that, he didnt say anything racist, and the people who made racist coments about hamilton are scum, the problem is hamilton in my opinion has to expect these things from time to time, as he is so vocal about black lives matter, its to be expected that the nutters will target him, but hes had it all his life, so im sure its water off a ducks back

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ??

My question to you is this..

Why are you uncomfortable talking about racism ?

It's an important issue affecting our society..

Because this is not the place ? Racism issue is not a chit chat over a sex site just because you are bored or can’t find a thread topic…

I absolutely disagree. Just because this is a swingers site, it doesn’t mean that people can’t discuss racism, sexism, rice pudding or biscuits.

The manner in which it’s being discussed is haphazard and massively biased with a clear and obvious agenda, but that’s a different matter"

A clear and obvious agenda ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

@ teamonkey. Looking for a cake recipe is not the same as discussing racism. When arguing about the second you want to change opinion, mind set and reshape the way some people think about another human being. The food for thought is a different level and bringing down to some pass time site is not appropriate in my opinion. It will only heat up the discussion for no other outcome than closing the thread. There are many other platform and way to discuss about it.

It’s kind of tabloid effect to me… between tits pics and ask Aunty a question.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"@ teamonkey. Looking for a cake recipe is not the same as discussing racism. When arguing about the second you want to change opinion, mind set and reshape the way some people think about another human being. The food for thought is a different level and bringing down to some pass time site is not appropriate in my opinion. It will only heat up the discussion for no other outcome than closing the thread. There are many other platform and way to discuss about it.

It’s kind of tabloid effect to me… between tits pics and ask Aunty a question. "

I am sure there are threads for you then.. maybe not this one.. is it censorship your after ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not at all…. Carry on

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

With respect you miss the point entirely..

It's about a Lord telling the Red Bull boss that criticism of Lewis opens the floodgates of vitriol from racists..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"@ teamonkey. Looking for a cake recipe is not the same as discussing racism. When arguing about the second you want to change opinion, mind set and reshape the way some people think about another human being. The food for thought is a different level and bringing down to some pass time site is not appropriate in my opinion. It will only heat up the discussion for no other outcome than closing the thread. There are many other platform and way to discuss about it.

It’s kind of tabloid effect to me… between tits pics and ask Aunty a question. "

i take it you are new to the forums, way more emotive stuff gets discused on here than this subject, afterall thats the point of a forum, if you dont like it, then you are free to not join in, again what a forum is all about

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Mr Horner did not say anything racist. The lord Hayes said that criticism of Sir Lewis by Mr Horner gives racists a platform for vitreol racist abuse ...

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ??

My question to you is this..

Why are you uncomfortable talking about racism ?

It's an important issue affecting our society..

Because this is not the place ? Racism issue is not a chit chat over a sex site just because you are bored or can’t find a thread topic…

I absolutely disagree. Just because this is a swingers site, it doesn’t mean that people can’t discuss racism, sexism, rice pudding or biscuits.

The manner in which it’s being discussed is haphazard and massively biased with a clear and obvious agenda, but that’s a different matter"

You should avoid the persons posts please as asked before

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

But then that leads on to another question

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mr Horner did not say anything racist. The lord Hayes said that criticism of Sir Lewis by Mr Horner gives racists a platform for vitreol racist abuse ..."

thats rediculus, so we cant critisize someone now if hes black just incase some racist nutter latches on to it,i dont agree with what horner said, but we cant cencer people like that, madness, horners critisizm was about lewis driving, wrongly in my view, not about his colour, it never was, and given the chance horner would employ hamilton in a shot

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Mr Horner did not say anything racist. The lord Hayes said that criticism of Sir Lewis by Mr Horner gives racists a platform for vitreol racist abuse ...

thats rediculus, so we cant critisize someone now if hes black just incase some racist nutter latches on to it,i dont agree with what horner said, but we cant cencer people like that, madness, horners critisizm was about lewis driving, wrongly in my view, not about his colour, it never was, and given the chance horner would employ hamilton in a shot"

I agree...I think thd Lord Hayes or Haines or whatever his name is .. is a bufoon

..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Mr Horner did not say anything racist. The lord Hayes said that criticism of Sir Lewis by Mr Horner gives racists a platform for vitreol racist abuse ...

thats rediculus, so we cant critisize someone now if hes black just incase some racist nutter latches on to it,i dont agree with what horner said, but we cant cencer people like that, madness, horners critisizm was about lewis driving, wrongly in my view, not about his colour, it never was, and given the chance horner would employ hamilton in a shot

I agree...I think thd Lord Hayes or Haines or whatever his name is .. is a bufoon

.."

And before Lionel asks.He is Labour

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Soooo the little i know of the incident it this... racing about the track, Hamilton pulls a dangerous move big crash. People not happy.

Then 'fans' took to social media posting comments including monkey and gorilla emojis in their upset.Sounds like the football...

Is this racist yes.

He may be knobber for the crash but the colour of the knobber is irrelevant. Or so you would think...clearly not!

Should these issues be discussed... hell to the mother fucking yes!

Are there people who are uncomfortable talking about yes, but it's even more uncomfortable experiencing it.

If I've got this incorrect please let me know.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Soooo the little i know of the incident it this... racing about the track, Hamilton pulls a dangerous move big crash. People not happy.

Then 'fans' took to social media posting comments including monkey and gorilla emojis in their upset.Sounds like the football...

Is this racist yes.

He may be knobber for the crash but the colour of the knobber is irrelevant. Or so you would think...clearly not!

Should these issues be discussed... hell to the mother fucking yes!

Are there people who are uncomfortable talking about yes, but it's even more uncomfortable experiencing it.

If I've got this incorrect please let me know."

Spot on...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Soooo the little i know of the incident it this... racing about the track, Hamilton pulls a dangerous move big crash. People not happy.

Then 'fans' took to social media posting comments including monkey and gorilla emojis in their upset.Sounds like the football...

Is this racist yes.

He may be knobber for the crash but the colour of the knobber is irrelevant. Or so you would think...clearly not!

Should these issues be discussed... hell to the mother fucking yes!

Are there people who are uncomfortable talking about yes, but it's even more uncomfortable experiencing it.

If I've got this incorrect please let me know."

nail on head, apart from thefact the other guy actually caused the crash, and everyone i know who has actuly seen the telematry from both cars agree, but thats not relivant, doesnt matter if lewis was in the wrong or not

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Racing incident as described by many other drivers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Soooo the little i know of the incident it this... racing about the track, Hamilton pulls a dangerous move big crash. People not happy.

Then 'fans' took to social media posting comments including monkey and gorilla emojis in their upset.Sounds like the football...

Is this racist yes.

He may be knobber for the crash but the colour of the knobber is irrelevant. Or so you would think...clearly not!

Should these issues be discussed... hell to the mother fucking yes!

Are there people who are uncomfortable talking about yes, but it's even more uncomfortable experiencing it.

If I've got this incorrect please let me know.

nail on head, apart from thefact the other guy actually caused the crash, and everyone i know who has actuly seen the telematry from both cars agree, but thats not relivant, doesnt matter if lewis was in the wrong or not"

Should i edit it? lol

Racey racey crash crash o look what a great oppotunity to be racist

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mr Horner did not say anything racist. The lord Hayes said that criticism of Sir Lewis by Mr Horner gives racists a platform for vitreol racist abuse ...

thats rediculus, so we cant critisize someone now if hes black just incase some racist nutter latches on to it,i dont agree with what horner said, but we cant cencer people like that, madness, horners critisizm was about lewis driving, wrongly in my view, not about his colour, it never was, and given the chance horner would employ hamilton in a shot

I agree...I think thd Lord Hayes or Haines or whatever his name is .. is a bufoon

..

And before Lionel asks.He is Labour "

So now it's about which party you're affiliated with as well? I'm getting confused.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Soooo the little i know of the incident it this... racing about the track, Hamilton pulls a dangerous move big crash. People not happy.

Then 'fans' took to social media posting comments including monkey and gorilla emojis in their upset.Sounds like the football...

Is this racist yes.

He may be knobber for the crash but the colour of the knobber is irrelevant. Or so you would think...clearly not!

Should these issues be discussed... hell to the mother fucking yes!

Are there people who are uncomfortable talking about yes, but it's even more uncomfortable experiencing it.

If I've got this incorrect please let me know.

nail on head, apart from thefact the other guy actually caused the crash, and everyone i know who has actuly seen the telematry from both cars agree, but thats not relivant, doesnt matter if lewis was in the wrong or not

Should i edit it? lol

Racey racey crash crash o look what a great oppotunity to be racist "

lol no what you said is just fine, in my opinion tho the whole black lives matter thing has made things worse, its funny, while i dont in anyway condone racisim, i lived in south africa for a while, the most racist people where the coloureds against other coloureds, if you werent the right sort of black then you got abuse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Soooo the little i know of the incident it this... racing about the track, Hamilton pulls a dangerous move big crash. People not happy.

Then 'fans' took to social media posting comments including monkey and gorilla emojis in their upset.Sounds like the football...

Is this racist yes.

He may be knobber for the crash but the colour of the knobber is irrelevant. Or so you would think...clearly not!

Should these issues be discussed... hell to the mother fucking yes!

Are there people who are uncomfortable talking about yes, but it's even more uncomfortable experiencing it.

If I've got this incorrect please let me know.

nail on head, apart from thefact the other guy actually caused the crash, and everyone i know who has actuly seen the telematry from both cars agree, but thats not relivant, doesnt matter if lewis was in the wrong or not

Should i edit it? lol

Racey racey crash crash o look what a great oppotunity to be racist "

Yes, pretty much sums it up!

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"It’s not the first time you post racism topic question?? Have you got an issue ??

You are afraid to discuss..

Let me signpost you to Tits out Tuesday"

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