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I’m the fortunate position of being able to change my car.
Have a rather elderly mini bit have the option of having either a Tesla or an A class merc hybrid.
Obviously there are other options out there but these two satisfy my select criteria (which I won’t bore everyone with)
Merc is cheaper and there isn’t the whole range anxiety issue. Tesla is faster better to drive and there are less of them about so possibly cooler?!?
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over a year ago
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If you can afford the potential addition to longer journey's (by having to stop and charge it) then I'd go Tesla.
For me, the A-Class isn't very special and the Tesla wins in "cool" points. Plus the yob in me really wants one with a "ludicrous pack"  |
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"If you can afford the potential addition to longer journey's (by having to stop and charge it) then I'd go Tesla.
For me, the A-Class isn't very special and the Tesla wins in "cool" points. Plus the yob in me really wants one with a "ludicrous pack" "
Don’t have that sort of money but 0-60 In 5 seconds used to be the stuff of dreams |
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I'd go fully electric if practical, as they are more favourable to the planet and all life. They may sustain resale value better, when fossil fuels get phased out.
Charging points are being increased. I'd base it on my driving patterns and needs. |
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"I have a hybrid now & would definitely go full electric in the future.
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Why is that, I thought the merc was a very nice car well made and equipped if somewhat bland on the outside.
It definitely wasn’t a drivers car a product of two different drive trains often it didn’t know what it wanted to do. I have driven a Tesla and no such issues with that. |
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over a year ago
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I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at. |
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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago
Maldon and Peterborough |
"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at. "
I agree that the new Tesla model 3 is very bland, but i like The model S.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wouldn’t recommend a Tesla to anyone. The electrical running gear is BRILLIANT but the rest of the cars are appalling. We are talking 70s British leyland build quality.
There’s a reason the running gear is the go to for conversions but I wouldn’t be a Tesla customer. |
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over a year ago
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"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at.
I agree that the new Tesla model 3 is very bland, but i like The model S.
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Outside looks better on that model depending on what colour you choose, but the inside is still just too bland and empty. I like them to look like cars inside too and they just have nothing in them bar the screen.  |
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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago
Maldon and Peterborough |
"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at.
I agree that the new Tesla model 3 is very bland, but i like The model S.
Outside looks better on that model depending on what colour you choose, but the inside is still just too bland and empty. I like them to look like cars inside too and they just have nothing in them bar the screen. "
Not enough buttons to fiddle with.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at.
I agree that the new Tesla model 3 is very bland, but i like The model S.
Outside looks better on that model depending on what colour you choose, but the inside is still just too bland and empty. I like them to look like cars inside too and they just have nothing in them bar the screen.
Not enough buttons to fiddle with. "
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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago
Maldon and Peterborough |
"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at.
I agree that the new Tesla model 3 is very bland, but i like The model S.
Outside looks better on that model depending on what colour you choose, but the inside is still just too bland and empty. I like them to look like cars inside too and they just have nothing in them bar the screen.
Not enough buttons to fiddle with.
How did you guess "
I'd rather be twiddling with your's. |
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I have a Toyota CHR Hybrid and love it. It does change the way you drive as you do try and keep it in eco mode as much as possible. I also like the fact as I live in a flat I can still drive an electric car and not have to plug it in overnight.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How can i put this
I was in the industry and people tended not to be fans of the Tesla
we moved a lot of cars around the country and i cannot think of anyone who would not go for the Merc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool?????
It’s ok if you don’t think they are"
I know they aren't cool though.
Just got to look at how many of them have a reg that they want to look like tesla even if it's tenuous to say the least.
And the line of bored looking blokes at services when they are on charge is in no way cool.
Nothing says you have no interest in cars than going electric. |
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By *ocothumpaMan
over a year ago
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Go for the Tesla
Hybrids are either going to be extinct or you’ll have to wait 5 years for the batteries to do more than 30miles
Merc/bmw hybrids are gash you’ll hate the battery degradation. Over 3 years I’ve gone from 25miles battery only driving to 12miles on a full battery after a 4 hour charge |
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By *i-tvTV/TS
over a year ago
Sheffield |
Full EV, I’ll be ordering the Tesla model Y as soon as available.
The petrol heads can keep moaning but EV is better in every way including performance.
Prices will continue to fall, take up is rising rapidly. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"I’m the fortunate position of being able to change my car.
Have a rather elderly mini bit have the option of having either a Tesla or an A class merc hybrid.
Obviously there are other options out there but these two satisfy my select criteria (which I won’t bore everyone with)
Merc is cheaper and there isn’t the whole range anxiety issue. Tesla is faster better to drive and there are less of them about so possibly cooler?!?
What do people think"
Don’t get an A class , they are like fiat 500 for little girl leaners |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"I wouldn’t recommend a Tesla to anyone. The electrical running gear is BRILLIANT but the rest of the cars are appalling. We are talking 70s British leyland build quality.
There’s a reason the running gear is the go to for conversions but I wouldn’t be a Tesla customer. "
My son in law was about to buy a Tesla, a conversation with a couple of his friends who drive Tesla's about poor build quality has made him change his mind, He has now ordered BMW M5 hybrid. |
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"None V8 or be Late ! Lol
This
Hate mercs and Tesla built quality is shocking, not much of choice in my opinion"
Theres all ways a choice just run your car off moon shine we cant let the sounds of glorious combustion be silenced just because some ass hole who dont know fuck about cars said so . With the way the government has been lately after the health secretary's behaviour and the bull shit thay speek , all the people in the uk will be driving round in milk floats and then we would probably see boris in a v10 f1 car . If anything gets my sense of humor. Rant over  |
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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago
Market Harborough / Kettering |
The electric car makers have a habit of designing an electric car with this range and that 0 to 60 time blah blah blah and then go and stick a bloody ugly bodyshell on it. Tesla have perfected this art with bland / wierd looks and i think the only reason people think they are cool is because of the willy waving acceleration bragging rights. Fine, a tesla will beat just about anything from the lights but would you want to be seen in one?  |
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over a year ago
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Full electric, i had a bmw i3 and wound up 233k miles in 4 years it was faultless and so cheap to run. Im going for another when ford bring their electric pickup truck out.  |
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"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at.
I agree that the new Tesla model 3 is very bland, but i like The model S.
Outside looks better on that model depending on what colour you choose, but the inside is still just too bland and empty. I like them to look like cars inside too and they just have nothing in them bar the screen.
Not enough buttons to fiddle with.
How did you guess
I'd rather be twiddling with your's. "
Such filth ha ha |
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"I have a Orange BMW 330e M Sport Hybrid and it looks way "cooler" than a Tesla thats for sure ha ha
Not sure what it is about a Tesla but they just don't look right outside or inside, very plain and basic to look at. "
I like the 330e but it’s twice the price of the Tesla and I’d have to put petrol in it. It’s 3 times the price of the merc. I like driving but I also like to keep my money in my pocket |
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"I’m the fortunate position of being able to change my car.
Have a rather elderly mini bit have the option of having either a Tesla or an A class merc hybrid.
Obviously there are other options out there but these two satisfy my select criteria (which I won’t bore everyone with)
Merc is cheaper and there isn’t the whole range anxiety issue. Tesla is faster better to drive and there are less of them about so possibly cooler?!?
What do people think
Don’t get an A class , they are like fiat 500 for little girl leaners "
They are quite a bland looking car, but you don’t see it when your in it. |
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool?????
It’s ok if you don’t think they are
I know they aren't cool though.
Just got to look at how many of them have a reg that they want to look like tesla even if it's tenuous to say the least.
And the line of bored looking blokes at services when they are on charge is in no way cool.
Nothing says you have no interest in cars than going electric."
I won’t be putting a private reg on one, and I won’t be spending any time charging it cos it’ll already be charged at home.
As for no interest, I’ve ridden driven flown and sailed just about anything that has an engine. It’s more about doing the actual driving than it is about what powers the bloody thing for me. |
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool?????"
I was thinking this.. they also aren't very rare.. I saw 9 today minimum... and I didn't even go far.
To be fair the fact that electric are completely impractical I'd take a hybrid If that was my only choice of car. |
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool????? I was thinking this.. they also aren't very rare.. I saw 9 today minimum... and I didn't even go far.
To be fair the fact that electric are completely impractical I'd take a hybrid If that was my only choice of car."
You definitely didnt go far if you only saw 9 of them. |
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"I’m the fortunate position of being able to change my car.
Have a rather elderly mini bit have the option of having either a Tesla or an A class merc hybrid.
Obviously there are other options out there but these two satisfy my select criteria (which I won’t bore everyone with)
Merc is cheaper and there isn’t the whole range anxiety issue. Tesla is faster better to drive and there are less of them about so possibly cooler?!?
What do people think
Don’t get an A class , they are like fiat 500 for little girl leaners
They are quite a bland looking car, but you don’t see it when your in it. "
Rear end is a bit bulbous compared to the sharp front end. Wheels need to be bigger and whilst the low stance gives a sporty look it is pretty impractical for UKs speed bump ridden roads. The interior however is far superior to anything else in its class.
I love my a200 |
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"I’m the fortunate position of being able to change my car.
Have a rather elderly mini bit have the option of having either a Tesla or an A class merc hybrid.
Obviously there are other options out there but these two satisfy my select criteria (which I won’t bore everyone with)
Merc is cheaper and there isn’t the whole range anxiety issue. Tesla is faster better to drive and there are less of them about so possibly cooler?!?
What do people think
Don’t get an A class , they are like fiat 500 for little girl leaners
They are quite a bland looking car, but you don’t see it when your in it.
Rear end is a bit bulbous compared to the sharp front end. Wheels need to be bigger and whilst the low stance gives a sporty look it is pretty impractical for UKs speed bump ridden roads. The interior however is far superior to anything else in its class.
I love my a200"
they are nice inside no doubt about that |
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool????? I was thinking this.. they also aren't very rare.. I saw 9 today minimum... and I didn't even go far.
To be fair the fact that electric are completely impractical I'd take a hybrid If that was my only choice of car."
Friday I drove from Cornwall to Manchester I don’t think I saw 9. I saw a lot more Mercs tho that’s for sure. Coolness is subjective, I’m not sure why you think electric is impractical. It’s got 5 seats storage front and back is easy to drive and there is nothing better to drive round town as no gears and no clutch. Sounds pretty practical to me. Ok have to charge up every 200 miles for the one I’m looking at but I can’t manage much more than that with out needing to stop myself. |
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool????? I was thinking this.. they also aren't very rare.. I saw 9 today minimum... and I didn't even go far.
To be fair the fact that electric are completely impractical I'd take a hybrid If that was my only choice of car.
Friday I drove from Cornwall to Manchester I don’t think I saw 9. I saw a lot more Mercs tho that’s for sure. Coolness is subjective, I’m not sure why you think electric is impractical. It’s got 5 seats storage front and back is easy to drive and there is nothing better to drive round town as no gears and no clutch. Sounds pretty practical to me. Ok have to charge up every 200 miles for the one I’m looking at but I can’t manage much more than that with out needing to stop myself. "
If you do long journeys like the one you mention above often you will need to factor in the extra hours you will be sat in a service station charging your car back up to full on every journey you do, this can make a full electric car impractical to people who like to travel a lot.
Also depending on where you live Tesla's are very popular, they are a very easy option for company cars now and where I live there is at least 15 on the estate I live in alone. So in time they will be everywhere in mass quantities as people start to change over.
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"In what reality is a Tesla cool????? I was thinking this.. they also aren't very rare.. I saw 9 today minimum... and I didn't even go far.
To be fair the fact that electric are completely impractical I'd take a hybrid If that was my only choice of car.
Friday I drove from Cornwall to Manchester I don’t think I saw 9. I saw a lot more Mercs tho that’s for sure. Coolness is subjective, I’m not sure why you think electric is impractical. It’s got 5 seats storage front and back is easy to drive and there is nothing better to drive round town as no gears and no clutch. Sounds pretty practical to me. Ok have to charge up every 200 miles for the one I’m looking at but I can’t manage much more than that with out needing to stop myself.
If you do long journeys like the one you mention above often you will need to factor in the extra hours you will be sat in a service station charging your car back up to full on every journey you do, this can make a full electric car impractical to people who like to travel a lot.
Also depending on where you live Tesla's are very popular, they are a very easy option for company cars now and where I live there is at least 15 on the estate I live in alone. So in time they will be everywhere in mass quantities as people start to change over.
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I probably only do a big journey 4 or 5 times a year, the rest of the time the furthest I drive is around 100 miles well within range.
Well you are very lucky to live in such an affluent area, I do see them about around here but they arnt common, when I test drove one recently a neighbour commented on the unusual nature of the thing. |
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Loving my new Tesla Model 3. No build or quality issues with it. There were with some that were made in the US but the ones now coming from China are much better in comparison.
If going electric I would recommend changing your electricity supplier to one of the cheap overnight tariffs like Octopus go.
So many new ev’s coming out now but range can vary so much between different ones. The Tesla supercharger network just makes it so much easier if you tend to do quite a few miles.
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"I have a 30 year old Merc 190d with 240.000 on the clock that runs off of old chip fat. Never misses a heart beat lol"
I’ve got a 14 year old Mini Cooper S it’s been a good car and stands me nothing but if you had the option of having a shiny new car for not much money you would wouldn’t you. |
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"Loving my new Tesla Model 3. No build or quality issues with it. There were with some that were made in the US but the ones now coming from China are much better in comparison.
If going electric I would recommend changing your electricity supplier to one of the cheap overnight tariffs like Octopus go.
So many new ev’s coming out now but range can vary so much between different ones. The Tesla supercharger network just makes it so much easier if you tend to do quite a few miles.
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It’s the supercharger network that is the decider for me, there are some cars around that have greater range, Kia and Hyundai but they can’t take advantage of the super charger network.
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Have both prefer the EV. Get around 200 miles from £12 of fast charge at my local Lidl which works well for me. If I charge at home it would be £7. Waiting to get the drive done first before installing a home charger |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
The future of electric is pay per mile no contract , you wouldn’t want to own one , just like you wouldn’t buy a silly yellow scooter , but just use a shared one when convenient and keep a real car at home |
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Now the real issue in deciding for most people is if the limitations of the electric car work with their lifestyle.
If you don't do very long single journeys, then range anxiety is thing of the past. Also, if you have a driveway, then a home charger is a very real option.
Right now I drive a Toyota hybrid, with another hybrid on order. I love it! If you want a hybrid, Toyota lead the way! It's got more than enough power (185bhp) and the type of driving I do gives me range of about 450 miles. Held off on full electric as Toyota are bout to launch their ground up new electric BZ range. I expect it to be very good.
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"Now the real issue in deciding for most people is if the limitations of the electric car work with their lifestyle.
If you don't do very long single journeys, then range anxiety is thing of the past. Also, if you have a driveway, then a home charger is a very real option.
Right now I drive a Toyota hybrid, with another hybrid on order. I love it! If you want a hybrid, Toyota lead the way! It's got more than enough power (185bhp) and the type of driving I do gives me range of about 450 miles. Held off on full electric as Toyota are bout to launch their ground up new electric BZ range. I expect it to be very good.
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I am getting this though work, the Toyotas would be a natural choice but in fact work out dearer than the Mercedes I’m not a badge snob I just want the best car for the least amount of money |
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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago
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I love playing the top gear game whilst going through tunnels in my car, drop it in to full sport mode, down with windows and nail it she normally kicks down a couple of gears and growls in anger and sounds fookin awesome Im not looking for an EV just yet as I still need to grow up |
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As previously discussed depends on what you are going to use it for.
I have previously had 2 hybrid cars (bmw's) and currently have a Tesla (owned for about 20 months)
Hybrid - If you have daily small roundtrip journeys of 30 miles then a chargeable hybrid would be prefect.
Cheap to run and no range anxiety for longer 250+ mile journeys as you can fill with petrol
I found on my hybrids the petrol fuel consumption to be terrible.
Full Electric - I changed for company car tax reasons and always have anxiety when my phone goes to 20% charge so was apprehensive.
Honestly I shouldn't have worried, real range of 280 miles (and I have a lead foot), loads of charging stations and the charging time can be as little as 20 mins 20% to 80% at a high speed Tesla charger.
I test drove the Jag ipace & Audi e-tron, both nice cars but real range was 210 miles and as yet don't have the fast charge infrastructure that tesla have.
If you choose electric make sure that whatever you buy cab accept a charge rate of 350KW (20 min charge). Check google as there's lots of sites that will give you the time to charge on different wattages.
As a side point (although now very common) I love my tesla and have had fast cars previously but nothing can prepare you for the acceleration and thrill you get when accelerating faster then a Porsche/Ferrari
Good luck
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"As previously discussed depends on what you are going to use it for.
I have previously had 2 hybrid cars (bmw's) and currently have a Tesla (owned for about 20 months)
Hybrid - If you have daily small roundtrip journeys of 30 miles then a chargeable hybrid would be prefect.
Cheap to run and no range anxiety for longer 250+ mile journeys as you can fill with petrol
I found on my hybrids the petrol fuel consumption to be terrible.
Full Electric - I changed for company car tax reasons and always have anxiety when my phone goes to 20% charge so was apprehensive.
Honestly I shouldn't have worried, real range of 280 miles (and I have a lead foot), loads of charging stations and the charging time can be as little as 20 mins 20% to 80% at a high speed Tesla charger.
I test drove the Jag ipace & Audi e-tron, both nice cars but real range was 210 miles and as yet don't have the fast charge infrastructure that tesla have.
If you choose electric make sure that whatever you buy cab accept a charge rate of 350KW (20 min charge). Check google as there's lots of sites that will give you the time to charge on different wattages.
As a side point (although now very common) I love my tesla and have had fast cars previously but nothing can prepare you for the acceleration and thrill you get when accelerating faster then a Porsche/Ferrari
Good luck
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I only have the option of a standard range plus which has a 250 mile range, tho I’m expecting it to be more like 200
I probably only do 4 or 5 journeys a year which exceed this |
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