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By *ea monkey OP   Man  over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I realise that this topic has been discussed before, however in light of further racist abuse and with ongoing issues on here, I felt that it was relevant.

To keep it fairly succinct; why does it happen in your opinion and what can be done to prevent or combat it?

Is it ever justified and what constitutes abuse are also related here

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

wokingham

I’m sure a thread on a swinging website will have all the answers to the 1000s of years old human trait of being nasty to eachother for reasons like race, religion etc

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By *ily WhiteWoman  over a year ago

?

What "ongoing issues on here" are you alluding to?

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed


"I realise that this topic has been discussed before, however in light of further racist abuse and with ongoing issues on here, I felt that it was relevant.

To keep it fairly succinct; why does it happen in your opinion and what can be done to prevent or combat it?

Is it ever justified and what constitutes abuse are also related here"

People have wrote books on this subject so not sure a few hundred words can do it justice.

But some people will always feel the need to blame others for their own short comings.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's simple, live your life without participating in it and teach your children it's not acceptable under any circumstance and it WILL one day be stamped out.

In the shorter term those going into social media to post racist or abuse should be dealt with as per the law of the country they are in, and if those laws don't cover it they should be updated

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"What "ongoing issues on here" are you alluding to? "

Profiles with "no blacks, no Asians" ? Queen of Spades threads ?

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By *iamondCougarWoman  over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Social media has wholly contributed to abuse since it’s conception - whatever kind of abuse that may be

Social medial is a window of anonymity where people feel they can write/say what they want because they are invisible ….. and whoever they abuse cannot see them

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By *parkle1974Woman  over a year ago

Leeds

Not my circus, not my monkeys!

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Not my circus, not my monkeys! "

Are you saying it is OK to ignore racism as it doesn't directly affect you ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Racism isn't always just about abuse either, it can be a person's general attitude.

One of my neighbours was talking about my new neighbours and said in a hushed voice "and a black man goes in there too" I was quite taken aback by this

Now ..my new neighbours I dislike for being selfish, noisy, demanding and self centered..

Their black friend though I do like, as he is considerate, polite and seems like a nice bloke.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Face ache twatter and instawank and the like are the most dangerous inventions after nuclear bombs imo they do more harm than good always have thats why iv never in my life used them

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By *tue555Man  over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

We are all products of our environment ment. Isms are passed on from generation to generation. Isms are a two way street, isms bread isms.

Italian newspapers were publishing stories saying the whole world wanted Italy to win perpetuating Englishism.

It is easier to try and bring others down rather than step up your own game.

Conflict is human nature, people use differences to try and make themselves look better - that's from both sides

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore "

If you are going to disassociated yourself with every country and group that contains racists and dick heads then that does not leave you with many options.

Every country has its lower end of the gene pool.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore

If you are going to disassociated yourself with every country and group that contains racists and dick heads then that does not leave you with many options.

Every country has its lower end of the gene pool. "

But I'm English?????

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By *parkle1974Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Not my circus, not my monkeys!

Are you saying it is OK to ignore racism as it doesn't directly affect you ?"

Ofcourse it's not OK. It's abhorrent and only done by cowards and keyboard warriors. But until all social media clamps down, it's never going to stop.

It's the lowest of the low x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was subjected to a hate campaign on Facebook and WhatsApp by people here I had never ever spoken too.

Hate comes in many forms. The internet just gives a place for them.

It will never stop, it's part of human nature. Mostly down to jealous

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"

But I'm English?????"

Or are you British ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As soon as Rashford, Sancho & Saka missed the penalties I knew the racial abuses was going to happen.

If they were successful they’d be considered “One of our own”

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Not my circus, not my monkeys!

Are you saying it is OK to ignore racism as it doesn't directly affect you ?

Ofcourse it's not OK. It's abhorrent and only done by cowards and keyboard warriors. But until all social media clamps down, it's never going to stop.

It's the lowest of the low x"

I'm not sure I trust privileged Californian bros to adjudicate what and what does not constitute racism. I don't know what the solution is, but leaving it to the tech companies seems to be a recipe for disaster in a pluralist heterogeneous world.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS  over a year ago

Cheshire

There’s a guy called Andrew, who works for Savills who decided to abuse the players who missed their penalties online.

Twitter erupted, he’s all over it and Savills themselves have just tweeted they’re looking into it, as they employ him.

He chose abuse, now hopefully he’ll pay for that with his job and even possibly a Police enquiry. So what he thought was going to get him some praise amongst his fellow Neanderthals, could possibly now get him a criminal record and a trip to the dole office.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?"

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

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By *parkle1974Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Not my circus, not my monkeys!

Are you saying it is OK to ignore racism as it doesn't directly affect you ?

Ofcourse it's not OK. It's abhorrent and only done by cowards and keyboard warriors. But until all social media clamps down, it's never going to stop.

It's the lowest of the low x

I'm not sure I trust privileged Californian bros to adjudicate what and what does not constitute racism. I don't know what the solution is, but leaving it to the tech companies seems to be a recipe for disaster in a pluralist heterogeneous world."

I know but these platforms are a gateway for this to happen. I'm with you, I've no idea how to stop it as every generation after the next just seem to be worse x

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British "

Are you British in your passport ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

Are you British in your passport ?"

Um that's what passport I have...not the place I was born!!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Not my circus, not my monkeys!

Are you saying it is OK to ignore racism as it doesn't directly affect you ?

Ofcourse it's not OK. It's abhorrent and only done by cowards and keyboard warriors. But until all social media clamps down, it's never going to stop.

It's the lowest of the low x

I'm not sure I trust privileged Californian bros to adjudicate what and what does not constitute racism. I don't know what the solution is, but leaving it to the tech companies seems to be a recipe for disaster in a pluralist heterogeneous world.

I know but these platforms are a gateway for this to happen. I'm with you, I've no idea how to stop it as every generation after the next just seem to be worse x"

Agreed. But I don't think we can rely on them. They're there to make money, not solve problems.

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By *ea monkey OP   Man  over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"What "ongoing issues on here" are you alluding to? "

Nothing specific or dark, just the usual abuse aimed at people

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore "

Why? It's not a requirement to act like that. You can support a team and not be a dick.

The people behaving the way they did are not fans. They are simply hooligans and morons.

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By *ea monkey OP   Man  over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"I realise that this topic has been discussed before, however in light of further racist abuse and with ongoing issues on here, I felt that it was relevant.

To keep it fairly succinct; why does it happen in your opinion and what can be done to prevent or combat it?

Is it ever justified and what constitutes abuse are also related here

People have wrote books on this subject so not sure a few hundred words can do it justice.

But some people will always feel the need to blame others for their own short comings. "

That’s true but something a bit deeper than ‘be kind’ would be insightful and maybe get towards the root more

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By *3nsesMan  over a year ago

Dublin

There's reasons and causes. Not saying the below covers it all, far from it, but these 3 stand out for me.

- people fear what they don't known/understand.

- people can't express their emotions in a healthy fashion.

- people can't/don't want to want to recognise their own failings

Lot term education and integration is key. Short term is adequate punishment for people who use racist abuse.

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South

"Be kind. Always. And to everyone"

Not just when it's convenient or a means to an end, or worse still, "fashionable".

Best 2 pieces of advice I've heard.

If you can't say something nice, say nothing.

Don't be a cnut.

I think the answer is education, at school and at home. Unfortunately home is often where racism and bigotry lives.

E

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think people define themselves both by what they are and what they are not. Bigotry (not just race related) is one way in which people try to assert their legitimacy and membership of the "right" group of people. "I'm a 'real' xyz", sort of thing.

It emerges more in times of stress, as well as with the courage of drink, groups, and anonymity.

The internet allows people to find each other - which is a blessing sometimes, but it also means that the bigots find and amplify each other. I'm often stunned by the uniformity of language stemming from certain groups, language that is almost unique to certain viewpoints (or at least arose there).

What to do? I wish I knew.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"As soon as Rashford, Sancho & Saka missed the penalties I knew the racial abuses was going to happen.

If they were successful they’d be considered “One of our own” "

The two Irish lads nailed theirs though!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If racist behaviour was going on in pubs the licensing departments for local authorities would close them down.

Do the same with social media companies.

Simple

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If racist behaviour was going on in pubs the licensing departments for local authorities would close them down.

Do the same with social media companies.

Simple"

How would you do that?

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By *adMerWoman  over a year ago

Sandwich

If only there were a worldwide pandemic to teach us that we’re all the same and that we all need to be kinder and more understanding of each other.... oh wait?!

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Abusive behaviour should never be tolerated whatever form it takes - and there are plenty of instances on here from sly side swipes at others to people starting threads about others purely to have a dig - and when it happens and is plain for all to see what it is, the only thing that can be done is to report it and hope that admin take the appropriate action, which they often do with forum bans of varying lengths - of course you can also call people out publically but that can often make a bad situation worse.

I guess the same applies to other social media platforms too - they all have their "reporting" portals and perhaps of more of us used them rather than turning a blind eye the more likelihood of not only the behaviour being tackled, but the more those companies will be forced to take responsibility and clamp down.

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By *affron40Woman  over a year ago

manchester

It’s ignorance and it should be challenged.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames

Online abuse.

Over the past few decades, people had learned that there were certain things that they couldn’t say in public, so open abuse died down a fair bit, but a lot of that ugly stuff was still there, just not openly expressed.

Online communication gives people a feeling of a anonymity and lack of consequence, so some of that material started being expressed more openly again. And movements like Trump opened things up further.

Lack of accountability is a huge problem. We should all be completely accountable for things we post online.

Also, people feel “braver” at a keyboard, posting things they would never dare say out loud or say to someone’s face. Let’s refer to this particular population as cowards.

Unfortunately, online abuse is a better barometer of what people actually think.

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By *ea monkey OP   Man  over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore

Why? It's not a requirement to act like that. You can support a team and not be a dick.

The people behaving the way they did are not fans. They are simply hooligans and morons. "

I agree. I’m a fervent football fan but I’ve never done anything beyond cheer or occasionally shed a tear.

I do think that it’s easy to dismiss people as morons and hooligans though

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By *entleman JackMan  over a year ago

Loughborough

There has been no racist abuse whatsoever on this site.

No ongoing issues at all!

Stop trying to cause trouble where there is none!

If you are having a bad day, go for a brisk walk and clear your head!

And leave the rest of us to enjoy fab swingers!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Frustrated with their own lives, jealously = lack of mental control over their emotions..

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Online abuse.

Over the past few decades, people had learned that there were certain things that they couldn’t say in public, so open abuse died down a fair bit, but a lot of that ugly stuff was still there, just not openly expressed.

Online communication gives people a feeling of a anonymity and lack of consequence, so some of that material started being expressed more openly again. And movements like Trump opened things up further.

Lack of accountability is a huge problem. We should all be completely accountable for things we post online.

Also, people feel “braver” at a keyboard, posting things they would never dare say out loud or say to someone’s face. Let’s refer to this particular population as cowards.

Unfortunately, online abuse is a better barometer of what people actually think. "

Well said!

It's also not always overt which is far more difficult to deal with. Add to that the current trend of shutting people down with the word "woke" or "snowflake" and you have a perfect breeding ground.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There has been no racist abuse whatsoever on this site.

No ongoing issues at all!

Stop trying to cause trouble where there is none!

If you are having a bad day, go for a brisk walk and clear your head!

And leave the rest of us to enjoy fab swingers!"


"There has been no racist abuse whatsoever on this site.

No ongoing issues at all!

Stop trying to cause trouble where there is none!

If you are having a bad day, go for a brisk walk and clear your head!

And leave the rest of us to enjoy fab swingers!"

I hope you're being sarcastic.

Get your head out of the sand and go for a brisk walk and clear your own head. This website is full of uneducated and ignorant racists.

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By *aitonelMan  over a year ago

Travelling


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore

Why? It's not a requirement to act like that. You can support a team and not be a dick.

The people behaving the way they did are not fans. They are simply hooligans and morons. "

They are still fans, in addition to those things, and as I have said elsewhere that specific subsection of fans while not exclusive to football and England, are some of the worst and most vile and scummiest of any fans in the world.

Other sports, while they do still have their issues, don't come close to the level of hatred of the subsection of football has.

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By *ucka39Man  over a year ago

Newcastle


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

Are you British in your passport ?

Um that's what passport I have...not the place I was born!!!! "

You do know that you have already stated that you were born in England then saying that you weren't born in England if you were born anywhere in England doesn't have to be in a hospital could've been a home delivery it's still England and British

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There has been no racist abuse whatsoever on this site.

No ongoing issues at all!

Stop trying to cause trouble where there is none!

If you are having a bad day, go for a brisk walk and clear your head!

And leave the rest of us to enjoy fab swingers!"

It's everywhere on the internet - no website can escape it.....

If you have proof I'd be interested in learning...

Thanks

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore

Why? It's not a requirement to act like that. You can support a team and not be a dick.

The people behaving the way they did are not fans. They are simply hooligans and morons.

They are still fans, in addition to those things, and as I have said elsewhere that specific subsection of fans while not exclusive to football and England, are some of the worst and most vile and scummiest of any fans in the world.

Other sports, while they do still have their issues, don't come close to the level of hatred of the subsection of football has. "

No. I refuse to call them fans. Fans support the club and its players and don't turn to vile racial abuse when players lose out on a game of chance, which is essentially what penalties are. They don't abuse security staff and police doing their job just because they think they have a right to get in to a stadium without tickets. They are disgusting.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

Are you British in your passport ?

Um that's what passport I have...not the place I was born!!!!

You do know that you have already stated that you were born in England then saying that you weren't born in England if you were born anywhere in England doesn't have to be in a hospital could've been a home delivery it's still England and British "

He's saying he was born in England but his passport is British.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"After last night's events with online racist abuse and in the street attacks I am glad I dont support England anymore

Why? It's not a requirement to act like that. You can support a team and not be a dick.

The people behaving the way they did are not fans. They are simply hooligans and morons.

They are still fans, in addition to those things, and as I have said elsewhere that specific subsection of fans while not exclusive to football and England, are some of the worst and most vile and scummiest of any fans in the world.

Other sports, while they do still have their issues, don't come close to the level of hatred of the subsection of football has. "

Football does seem to attract some of the worst offenders and bring out some of the worst behaviour.

But if football disappeared tomorrow this behaviour would not disappear, would just reappear somewhere else.

Accountability for what people post online would be a massive change, the very occasional prosecution and slap on the wrists at the moment (always seeks to be a scared kid) is just a joke, no deterrent at all.

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

Are you British in your passport ?

Um that's what passport I have...not the place I was born!!!!

You do know that you have already stated that you were born in England then saying that you weren't born in England if you were born anywhere in England doesn't have to be in a hospital could've been a home delivery it's still England and British

He's saying he was born in England but his passport is British.

"

And he can describe himself in any way that he wants to. There’s plenty of people who mention the part of England they come from rather than their nationality ... Yorkshire and Cornwall for starters.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

How about if everyone who didn't enjoy abusing other people stopped using social media for an extended period of time? That would concentrate the minds of those in charge via the pressure put on them by advertisers pretty sharpish I imagine.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"

But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

Are you British in your passport ?

Um that's what passport I have...not the place I was born!!!!

You do know that you have already stated that you were born in England then saying that you weren't born in England if you were born anywhere in England doesn't have to be in a hospital could've been a home delivery it's still England and British

He's saying he was born in England but his passport is British.

And he can describe himself in any way that he wants to. There’s plenty of people who mention the part of England they come from rather than their nationality ... Yorkshire and Cornwall for starters. "

Exactly!

Or which of the British countries they come from e.g. Wales

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"There has been no racist abuse whatsoever on this site.

No ongoing issues at all!

Stop trying to cause trouble where there is none!

If you are having a bad day, go for a brisk walk and clear your head!

And leave the rest of us to enjoy fab swingers!"

It's not causing trouble, it's an accurate statement. This and other sites are a microcosm of broader society and there's an inherent issue regarding racism..

And there's been too much on here also..

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By *immyinreadingMan  over a year ago

henley on thames


"How about if everyone who didn't enjoy abusing other people stopped using social media for an extended period of time? That would concentrate the minds of those in charge via the pressure put on them by advertisers pretty sharpish I imagine."

I can’t see that happening. A lot of people are addicted to their social media and wouldn’t give it up. And when a load of media stars decided to have lockout periods recently, they skipped social media for a day. One day! What good does that do other than a “ooh look at me” piece of virtue signalling. If they abandoned the usual suspects and moved to a new platform that is properly policed, then you might see some real change.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"How about if everyone who didn't enjoy abusing other people stopped using social media for an extended period of time? That would concentrate the minds of those in charge via the pressure put on them by advertisers pretty sharpish I imagine.

I can’t see that happening. A lot of people are addicted to their social media and wouldn’t give it up. And when a load of media stars decided to have lockout periods recently, they skipped social media for a day. One day! What good does that do other than a “ooh look at me” piece of virtue signalling. If they abandoned the usual suspects and moved to a new platform that is properly policed, then you might see some real change. "

No, neither can I because everyone wants something done but only if it doesn't inconvenience them and somebody else is doing it.

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By *EXY_PILOTMan  over a year ago

Manchester, North West, UK


"I realise that this topic has been discussed before, however in light of further racist abuse and with ongoing issues on here, I felt that it was relevant.

To keep it fairly succinct; why does it happen in your opinion and what can be done to prevent or combat it?

Is it ever justified and what constitutes abuse are also related here"

They are cowards and only attack in mobs!

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"What "ongoing issues on here" are you alluding to?

Profiles with "no blacks, no Asians" ? Queen of Spades threads ? "

People are allowed likes and dislikes in people they want to meet, no different than saying no fat or thin people or no blondes or bald or hairy men, how about not wanting to meet bi sexual or curious.

Having a preference is vary different to having a prejudice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There has been no racist abuse whatsoever on this site.

No ongoing issues at all!

Stop trying to cause trouble where there is none!

If you are having a bad day, go for a brisk walk and clear your head!

And leave the rest of us to enjoy fab swingers!"

That is untrue and if you genuinely think there has been no racism on this site then you are at best nieve!

On the whole like most of society they majority on here are decent people but you still get racist idiots.

Iv seen some appalling racial abuse on the forums but the mods are normally very quick to deal with it.

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By *ig1gaz1Man  over a year ago

bradford


"I think the answer is education, at school and at home. Unfortunately home is often where racism and bigotry lives.

E "

Sorry to say its in all cultures no matter what culture it is.

So its not just a whites thing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the answer is education, at school and at home. Unfortunately home is often where racism and bigotry lives.

E Sorry to say its in all cultures no matter what culture it is.

So its not just a whites thing"

Nobody said it was and just because its in "all cultures" doesn't make it ok. Racism should always be called out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont believe its all down to how the individual has been brought up, i think idiots are just idiots.

People will always discriminate on what they see in when in a pressured or angry situation, words such as ugly, bitch, black, brown, white, bald, and so on. Its always going to happen and unfortunately theres not one person here that can say they havnt used a discriminatory remark against someone at some point be it in your own airspace for your ears, be it a taxi with a ethnic driver pulling out on you or a large person barging past. It happens unfortunately, it will never not happen all we can do is be as nice as we can and not give moronic acts airspace.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dont believe its all down to how the individual has been brought up, i think idiots are just idiots.

People will always discriminate on what they see in when in a pressured or angry situation, words such as ugly, bitch, black, brown, white, bald, and so on. Its always going to happen and unfortunately theres not one person here that can say they havnt used a discriminatory remark against someone at some point be it in your own airspace for your ears, be it a taxi with a ethnic driver pulling out on you or a large person barging past. It happens unfortunately, it will never not happen all we can do is be as nice as we can and not give moronic acts airspace. "

This unfortunately is exactly my thoughts, apart from using a discriminatory remark. I can honestly say I've never done that. If someone wants to be an idiot, that's what I regret to, not what they look like.

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By *ssex_tomMan  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Abusive behaviour should never be tolerated whatever form it takes - and there are plenty of instances on here from sly side swipes at others to people starting threads about others purely to have a dig - and when it happens and is plain for all to see what it is, the only thing that can be done is to report it and hope that admin take the appropriate action, which they often do with forum bans of varying lengths - of course you can also call people out publically but that can often make a bad situation worse.

I guess the same applies to other social media platforms too - they all have their "reporting" portals and perhaps of more of us used them rather than turning a blind eye the more likelihood of not only the behaviour being tackled, but the more those companies will be forced to take responsibility and clamp down."

For once or possibly twice GM..

I totally agree. Those that start threads naming others in the title to undermine them are the worst .. they preach love and practice hate..

Simple really

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


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But I'm English?????

Or are you British ?

I was born in England so I'm English, never lived in Scotland, Wales or northern Ireland so cant claim to be born British

Are you British in your passport ?

Um that's what passport I have...not the place I was born!!!!

You do know that you have already stated that you were born in England then saying that you weren't born in England if you were born anywhere in England doesn't have to be in a hospital could've been a home delivery it's still England and British "

And European you’re just staying the obvious. It’s ok identify as English you know , it’s not a crime yet. This is partly why there is racism because some people feel alienated, it’s not rocket science look up history of genocide, it all starts with alienation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" they preach love and practice hate.."

I like this.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


" they preach love and practice hate..

I like this. "

Me too, and certainly seems to be a thing for some, not only here, but society generally sadly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Haters gonna hate...this time its the 3 guys that missed the penalties..and they're high profile ones...never mind the amount that gets abused in their lives without anything ever making headlines..its frightening tbh..

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By *ichael500Man  over a year ago

Virginia Water


"I realise that this topic has been discussed before, however in light of further racist abuse and with ongoing issues on here, I felt that it was relevant.

To keep it fairly succinct; why does it happen in your opinion and what can be done to prevent or combat it?

Is it ever justified and what constitutes abuse are also related here"

History old problem that hasn't changed, won't change and can't change. Only difference it's now available in font of your choosing.

Is what it is. Can't blame football

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By *tue555Man  over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

Abuse comes in many forms, as well as isms. Your get the open abuse/ism, then you get the underhanded hidden abuse One-Up-Man-Ship which is rife in the forums and encouraged by many, as well as many other platforms.

Reading through forums right now there are at least 3 threads that have those disguised abuse posts.

Many here are guilty of it but think it has gone un-noticed by everyone but the ones they consider peers.

Often it is like junior school class the guy picking on the fat kid and the girls giggling.

Sorry many are guilty of it.

There is the old saying of "Getting your own house in order before criticising others"

And "Obviously Pot/Kettle springs to mind"

How you choose to respond to this post is entirely choice.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Abuse comes in many forms, as well as isms. Your get the open abuse/ism, then you get the underhanded hidden abuse One-Up-Man-Ship which is rife in the forums and encouraged by many, as well as many other platforms.

Reading through forums right now there are at least 3 threads that have those disguised abuse posts.

Many here are guilty of it but think it has gone un-noticed by everyone but the ones they consider peers.

Often it is like junior school class the guy picking on the fat kid and the girls giggling.

Sorry many are guilty of it.

There is the old saying of "Getting your own house in order before criticising others"

And "Obviously Pot/Kettle springs to mind"

How you choose to respond to this post is entirely choice.

"

I respond by absolutely agreeing with pretty much every word and often it is the underhanded and snide abuse that is the worst form, at least the overt abuse can be tackled head on, and dealt with appropriately by mods/admin - the more nuanced forms it's not always easy to tell unless you are a part of it.

I've seen and heard things that truly make my toes curl at times and wonder about how "adult" members of an adult site really are.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

As this thread has had confirmation this was about another user I am closing this

Instead of starting threads about people you don't like, just ignore that persons posts instead. Bringing it onto the forum is not what the forum is for.

If you think a post is breaking rules by anyone, report please, the same if you think a mod has missed anything unsavoury going on that is dressed up as "banter"

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