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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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one for all the football people or other sports too if you had the choice and power to determine if your club team or your country won a major trophy which would you choose??
I used to say millwall first all the time but I would give my bollock if england won the euros I think haha what about you??? |
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Country every-time.
Despite the daily sycophantic show of unwavering love of their team, so few players, managers and even owners care about their current club or fans it’s hard to even ague why we follow a “team” rather than individual players and managers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Likewise OP, whenever the big tournaments come around I revert to being totally England for the duration.
Come August though it’s all about your club team though innit? 
My team are shit though so I never have much to celebrate! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I haven’t seen my team win anything major since 1991, 30 years of hurt.
Tough call but I’d probably say country at this point "
haha i would say good luck but then I saw your spurs haha just kidding yea would be good to see england win I might even hug a tottenham then haha |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Country every-time.
Despite the daily sycophantic show of unwavering love of their team, so few players, managers and even owners care about their current club or fans it’s hard to even ague why we follow a “team” rather than individual players and managers."
yea thats true proper people down millwall mind good community club but I hear what your saying |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm like you OP. Before the tournament, I would rather United have won the Europa League than England winning the Euros, but now seeing how close we are... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Likewise OP, whenever the big tournaments come around I revert to being totally England for the duration.
Come August though it’s all about your club team though innit?
My team are shit though so I never have much to celebrate! "
not west ham are you haha |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I’m going club but seeing as both my Wankie clubs have dropped out of the professional league I’m a bit stuffed!!!!!!
Tony"
oh no who do you support??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I haven’t seen my team win anything major since 1991, 30 years of hurt.
Tough call but I’d probably say country at this point "
Total disrespect to the Carling Cup  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm like you OP. Before the tournament, I would rather United have won the Europa League than England winning the Euros, but now seeing how close we are... "
 so you think we will do it I think we will beat denmark then lose to italy |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m going club but seeing as both my Wankie clubs have dropped out of the professional league I’m a bit stuffed!!!!!!
Tony
oh no who do you support???"
The not so mighty Southend Utd and the even shittier La Berrichonne de Chateauroux but at least the Berri have been brought out by a lovely rich Arab.
I spent thirty years following England home and away in Europe which is why I choose club but Southgate is bringing my affection back again bless him.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"one for all the football people or other sports too if you had the choice and power to determine if your club team or your country won a major trophy which would you choose??
I used to say millwall first all the time but I would give my bollock if england won the euros I think haha what about you???"
Ah I’d have to say country only cause Ireland are abysmal over the last 10 years ! And it would probably take a doping scheme 10 times more elaborate then Armstrong !
I think even then we would just be able to stumble over the ball quicker and start more fights cause of roid rage ! ! Ha
Point is cause it would never happen the problem is you have to score goals on your opponents and these last few years !.......
Yeah it’s been tough to watch !
course I’m gonna say country tho ! !
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm like you OP. Before the tournament, I would rather United have won the Europa League than England winning the Euros, but now seeing how close we are...
so you think we will do it I think we will beat denmark then lose to italy "
Oh absolutely, but the hope will be incredible |
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"I haven’t seen my team win anything major since 1991, 30 years of hurt.
Tough call but I’d probably say country at this point
haha i would say good luck but then I saw your spurs haha just kidding yea would be good to see england win I might even hug a tottenham then haha"
One of them has to deliver on the hope & belief and it won’t be us anytime soon at least we are used to the disappointment |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Country definitely, it’s so nice seeing the energy and smiles people currently have about our nation team and I know the whole world has and still is going through a very difficult time but selfishly thinking just of us it’s giving everyone such a lift  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would only play for my club.. could not stand the thought of playing for a country "
100% agree !
Maybe once so my ma can try pelt me with a bottle she doesn’t rate me at all |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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A tough call and would be interesting to have seen the same question posted back in November or December and see how different the answers would be, away from the fervour of England being two games away from winning a trophy.
I think I'd probably have to go with club as I have more of an emotional tie to them - regardless of the competition my heart sinks whenever we lose - whereas England I only tend to get excited about during major competitions |
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If I chose country, I’d wait until the World Cup to influence an England victory.
Until then, It’ll have to be back-to-back Champions League victories for Forest Green Rovers - who wouldn’t want to see that!? |
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Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead "
We had a England supporter meeting and a small few had some not nice things to say about you
Don’t worry I let the air out there tires after !
Ok It was only one if I’m honest !
But maybe he will think twice next time there passionate you got to give them that ! |
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
We had a England supporter meeting and a small few had some not nice things to say about you
Don’t worry I let the air out there tires after !
Ok It was only one if I’m honest !
But maybe he will think twice next time there passionate you got to give them that ! "
I was hoping one or two Engerlaannd fans would bite but …never mind
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
We had a England supporter meeting and a small few had some not nice things to say about you
Don’t worry I let the air out there tires after !
Ok It was only one if I’m honest !
But maybe he will think twice next time there passionate you got to give them that !
I was hoping one or two Engerlaannd fans would bite but …never mind
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You looking for trouble ! Haha
I probably would have but Na I’m turning over a new leaf haha
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
We had a England supporter meeting and a small few had some not nice things to say about you
Don’t worry I let the air out there tires after !
Ok It was only one if I’m honest !
But maybe he will think twice next time there passionate you got to give them that !
I was hoping one or two Engerlaannd fans would bite but …never mind
You looking for trouble ! Haha
I probably would have but Na I’m turning over a new leaf haha
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Little old me …never |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
We had a England supporter meeting and a small few had some not nice things to say about you
Don’t worry I let the air out there tires after !
Ok It was only one if I’m honest !
But maybe he will think twice next time there passionate you got to give them that !
I was hoping one or two Engerlaannd fans would bite but …never mind
You looking for trouble ! Haha
I probably would have but Na I’m turning over a new leaf haha
Little old me …never "
That’s what people use to say about me !
It’s a slippery slope trust me  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My club every single time, Maybe after a 100 major wins on the run I'd change it for a England win"
This...I'd sooner my team win a league game
Yeah I want England to win but yep club team every single time |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead "
Very well said! |
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By *1c4yMan
over a year ago
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
Very well said!"
As it's OK to stereotype here without prejudice, all blonds are unintelligent.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Club for me every day of the week! As a Leicester fan I don’t see any better run clubs around and what they do for us fans is unbelievable…I’ve seen everything with them over the last 30 years and although I obviously do want England to win the euros, I just can’t get as excited as I am when watching Leicester! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
Very well said!
As it's OK to stereotype here without prejudice, all blonds are unintelligent.
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Gammons, every last single one of ‘em!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Likewise OP, whenever the big tournaments come around I revert to being totally England for the duration.
Come August though it’s all about your club team though innit?
My team are shit though so I never have much to celebrate!
not west ham are you haha"
Sadly no, much much worse than that!
(If that’s possible)
Success for my team is losing by only a single goal at Rochdale ...  |
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By *1c4yMan
over a year ago
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
Very well said!
As it's OK to stereotype here without prejudice, all blonds are unintelligent.
Gammons, every last single one of ‘em!
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She's not gonna shag you mate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t stand England fans (and that bloody band) and I’m English. So club for me, I’d even take the FA cup at the moment.
You can keep chanting two World Wars etc…playing the Dambusters theme and singing three lions, whilst carrying your patriotic copy of the Sun newspaper. I’ll support my club instead
Very well said!
As it's OK to stereotype here without prejudice, all blonds are unintelligent.
Gammons, every last single one of ‘em!
She's not gonna shag you mate. "
Whoosh, right over your head mate!!
I was agreeing with you ...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd rather my club win a friendly over anything England do.
I have no emotional attachment to the national side or any interest in international football altogether.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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some good answers thank you to all that have replied looking at the answers theres a few that seem to have no interest at all or even a dislike of the national team why is that?
I can understand putting the club first as thats what you watch week in week out all over the country in some cases but theres a lot of people saying they have no interest in the national side at all
is that because you think of it as lots of nationalism like a brexit thing all england fans are racist or sexist or what not or something else ?? Haha
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"some good answers thank you to all that have replied looking at the answers theres a few that seem to have no interest at all or even a dislike of the national team why is that?
I can understand putting the club first as thats what you watch week in week out all over the country in some cases but theres a lot of people saying they have no interest in the national side at all
is that because you think of it as lots of nationalism like a brexit thing all england fans are racist or sexist or what not or something else ?? Haha
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Honestly Kev, imagine going to an FA Cup Final with your club. Your football club, a place every other Saturday you see the same faces and carry on your match day routine, pint a pie or whatever you do.
But this Saturday you’re off to Wembley with those same faces but this is like one of those School trips, excitement in the air, butties, flask of tea or something stronger and the long coach journey on the Motorway singing songs, laughing and joking the whole way down but with people you sort of know …as you nod your head at them before the game.
Get to Wembley and it seems that it’s your club scarves and flags lining the route, through the turnstiles and find your seat. Pay too much at the bar for a warm pint in a plastic cup and wonder why they don’t serve pies  to watch your team with half of your town in London for the day.
If you win the long journey home won’t take to long with the laughter and celebration. Lose and it will take forever
Either way the next Saturday at the match those guys your nodded your head at, are now new mates with joint memories of that day at Wembley.
That or …support England with a bunch of people you’ll never see again, with a useless band playing the same tunes endlessly. Plus we are bound to lose at penalties
Always Club mate for me |
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"some good answers thank you to all that have replied looking at the answers theres a few that seem to have no interest at all or even a dislike of the national team why is that?
I can understand putting the club first as thats what you watch week in week out all over the country in some cases but theres a lot of people saying they have no interest in the national side at all
is that because you think of it as lots of nationalism like a brexit thing all england fans are racist or sexist or what not or something else ?? Haha
Honestly Kev, imagine going to an FA Cup Final with your club. Your football club, a place every other Saturday you see the same faces and carry on your match day routine, pint a pie or whatever you do.
But this Saturday you’re off to Wembley with those same faces but this is like one of those School trips, excitement in the air, butties, flask of tea or something stronger and the long coach journey on the Motorway singing songs, laughing and joking the whole way down but with people you sort of know …as you nod your head at them before the game.
Get to Wembley and it seems that it’s your club scarves and flags lining the route, through the turnstiles and find your seat. Pay too much at the bar for a warm pint in a plastic cup and wonder why they don’t serve pies to watch your team with half of your town in London for the day.
If you win the long journey home won’t take to long with the laughter and celebration. Lose and it will take forever
Either way the next Saturday at the match those guys your nodded your head at, are now new mates with joint memories of that day at Wembley.
That or …support England with a bunch of people you’ll never see again, with a useless band playing the same tunes endlessly. Plus we are bound to lose at penalties
Always Club mate for me "
Sounds like you hold a lot of hostility towards English supporters!! Am I wrong ? Ha
Even after I made one walk all the way home last night
Support Ireland ? Look You’ll never win nothing
nor even qualify
but match days are the bollox ! Good laugh |
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"some good answers thank you to all that have replied looking at the answers theres a few that seem to have no interest at all or even a dislike of the national team why is that?
I can understand putting the club first as thats what you watch week in week out all over the country in some cases but theres a lot of people saying they have no interest in the national side at all
is that because you think of it as lots of nationalism like a brexit thing all england fans are racist or sexist or what not or something else ?? Haha
Honestly Kev, imagine going to an FA Cup Final with your club. Your football club, a place every other Saturday you see the same faces and carry on your match day routine, pint a pie or whatever you do.
But this Saturday you’re off to Wembley with those same faces but this is like one of those School trips, excitement in the air, butties, flask of tea or something stronger and the long coach journey on the Motorway singing songs, laughing and joking the whole way down but with people you sort of know …as you nod your head at them before the game.
Get to Wembley and it seems that it’s your club scarves and flags lining the route, through the turnstiles and find your seat. Pay too much at the bar for a warm pint in a plastic cup and wonder why they don’t serve pies to watch your team with half of your town in London for the day.
If you win the long journey home won’t take to long with the laughter and celebration. Lose and it will take forever
Either way the next Saturday at the match those guys your nodded your head at, are now new mates with joint memories of that day at Wembley.
That or …support England with a bunch of people you’ll never see again, with a useless band playing the same tunes endlessly. Plus we are bound to lose at penalties
Always Club mate for me
Sounds like you hold a lot of hostility towards English supporters!! Am I wrong ? Ha
Even after I made one walk all the way home last night
Support Ireland ? Look You’ll never win nothing
nor even qualify
but match days are the bollox ! Good laugh "
I know loads of supporters of the bigger teams and ask them, they’re more concerned that their best players getting injured and being out for the season.
Would a Liverpool fan want another Premiership title or England a Euro title. I lived in Liverpool believe me it’ll be the Premiership every time. Same with any of the supporters of the teams that could win a big trophy.
I’ll be watching it tomorrow I hope we win, then I’ll watch the final and hope we win. Then immediately forget about it, as it’s not that precious for me |
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amazing to see the passion of local allegiance so strong in this thread, but the obvious focus within it is England and football.
My take's a little different, as a Welshman, rugby's my favoured watch (screaming stereotype I know, sorry!) and it's Country over club every day of the week. Don't get me wrong, I love the grass roots game (my son plays) but if my club loses, well, hey-ho, we play again next week; but if Wales lose, it genuinely saddens me!
As fornfootball, the support for the national team is stronger than ever, I'd be interested to see which side of this Club/Country debate an avid (Welsh) football fan sits |
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"amazing to see the passion of local allegiance so strong in this thread, but the obvious focus within it is England and football.
My take's a little different, as a Welshman, rugby's my favoured watch (screaming stereotype I know, sorry!) and it's Country over club every day of the week. Don't get me wrong, I love the grass roots game (my son plays) but if my club loses, well, hey-ho, we play again next week; but if Wales lose, it genuinely saddens me!
As fornfootball, the support for the national team is stronger than ever, I'd be interested to see which side of this Club/Country debate an avid (Welsh) football fan sits "
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You have an emotional connection to your club,especially if it's your home town?
What connection do you have with a team you never watch?
Also I don't get how you can intensely dislike a player for 42 weeks in a season, and then support him because he pulls in a different shirt?
Thats without getting into all the nationalistic nonsense. |
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"You have an emotional connection to your club,especially if it's your home town?
What connection do you have with a team you never watch?
Also I don't get how you can intensely dislike a player for 42 weeks in a season, and then support him because he pulls in a different shirt?
Thats without getting into all the nationalistic nonsense."
It seems a strangely unique to football phenomenon that it doesn't seem possible to support one team without intensely disliking another team. Like dai above my sport is rugby... Its possible to support a team without being weighed down hating the other team and grudgingly admire the skill, talent and application of others. Good play is good play whoever it's by and is applauded. |
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"You have an emotional connection to your club,especially if it's your home town?
What connection do you have with a team you never watch?
Also I don't get how you can intensely dislike a player for 42 weeks in a season, and then support him because he pulls in a different shirt?
Thats without getting into all the nationalistic nonsense.
It seems a strangely unique to football phenomenon that it doesn't seem possible to support one team without intensely disliking another team. Like dai above my sport is rugby... Its possible to support a team without being weighed down hating the other team and grudgingly admire the skill, talent and application of others. Good play is good play whoever it's by and is applauded. "
Football is a lot more tribal I guess? |
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"You have an emotional connection to your club,especially if it's your home town?
What connection do you have with a team you never watch?
Also I don't get how you can intensely dislike a player for 42 weeks in a season, and then support him because he pulls in a different shirt?
Thats without getting into all the nationalistic nonsense.
It seems a strangely unique to football phenomenon that it doesn't seem possible to support one team without intensely disliking another team. Like dai above my sport is rugby... Its possible to support a team without being weighed down hating the other team and grudgingly admire the skill, talent and application of others. Good play is good play whoever it's by and is applauded.
Football is a lot more tribal I guess?"
Possibly.. Not sure... It would be interesting... The word passion is thrown out..as an reason or excuse for players or managers behaviour or fans at times.. But I'm not sure supporters or players are any less passionate in other sports than in football.. They just seem to be able to support "for" a team without being "against" everyone else. Thankfully we are not all the same. Be boring if we were. |
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I had that conflict with Alan Shearer, absolutely detested everything about him playing for Newcastle but when playing for England I'd be fully behind him playing his best as I want England to succeed. |
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"some good answers thank you to all that have replied looking at the answers theres a few that seem to have no interest at all or even a dislike of the national team why is that?
I can understand putting the club first as thats what you watch week in week out all over the country in some cases but theres a lot of people saying they have no interest in the national side at all
is that because you think of it as lots of nationalism like a brexit thing all england fans are racist or sexist or what not or something else ?? Haha
Honestly Kev, imagine going to an FA Cup Final with your club. Your football club, a place every other Saturday you see the same faces and carry on your match day routine, pint a pie or whatever you do.
But this Saturday you’re off to Wembley with those same faces but this is like one of those School trips, excitement in the air, butties, flask of tea or something stronger and the long coach journey on the Motorway singing songs, laughing and joking the whole way down but with people you sort of know …as you nod your head at them before the game.
Get to Wembley and it seems that it’s your club scarves and flags lining the route, through the turnstiles and find your seat. Pay too much at the bar for a warm pint in a plastic cup and wonder why they don’t serve pies to watch your team with half of your town in London for the day.
If you win the long journey home won’t take to long with the laughter and celebration. Lose and it will take forever
Either way the next Saturday at the match those guys your nodded your head at, are now new mates with joint memories of that day at Wembley.
That or …support England with a bunch of people you’ll never see again, with a useless band playing the same tunes endlessly. Plus we are bound to lose at penalties
Always Club mate for me "
Haha yea im with you on this totally millwall week in week out but I do like a summer tournament when most of the country gets together like I say id give my right bollock if england win the euros this year haha |
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