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"You shouldn't let it bother you. It's just stupid opinions from close minded people. It's a good way to know who to avoid. I see it happening often everywhere! It's like on Fab you'll get plus size threads praising a larger woman but in the same sentence they'll tear down a slim woman like it's an OK thing to do. And then you'll get the same from other people who talk about fat people like they are worthless because they're overweight. It goes both ways. Your body doesn't define who you are. And people who judge someone so harshly on their appearance are honestly not worth your energy. " | |||
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"I have had women saying I am too muscular for them and they prefer more of a dad body" Preference is ok, shaming is not. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything " As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person | |||
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"I've noticed a lot of "gym body vs dad body" threads recently, and there are always comments (in those threads) that seem to be an attack towards people that go to the gym. Now here is the definition of body shaming: "the action or practice of humiliating someone by making mocking or critical comments about their body shape or size". Here are some comments that I find perfectly resonate this statement: "Men with big muscles are only trying to compensate for a small penis " "Men who lift weights aren't very smart" "People that constantly go to the gym are egotistical, selfish, arrogant and self centred" "Oi big man, don'tyou have money for a bigger T shirt?...haha" I'm not gonna lie, some of these comments (especially the ones talking about intelligence and personality) kinda bother me and make me feel like I should be ashamed of the way I look (even thoughthe way that I look is just the byproductof the way I train...it's not the objective). And yes I understand that people that go to the gym also get their compliments and body shaming is mostly linked to fat shaming, but if you truly believe in body positivity don't lift one group of people up by putting another group of people down, which is what I see sometimes in the comment section. I understand that some have bad experiences with certain people that look in a specific way, but what I'm trying to say is judge individuals (not people) based on their behaviour. It's really just common sense...now off I go to the gym " Could it be jealousy? | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything " Likewise, however I wish I could eat what I wanted lol | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person " I agree with u mate people assume ur on steroids and steroids get a bad wrap because a small number of people misuse them | |||
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"Chaps just do you! I admire the work, commitment and discipline that goes in to those physiques. As long as you are happy then that’s the main thing. Some will prefer some tubbyness, some want a washboard! " .exactamondo dude | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything Likewise, however I wish I could eat what I wanted lol" I eat what I want, I don't jack up ...but, alas, I don't go to the gym either, so don't reap the rewards you guys do for your time and effort. Nothing but respect dudes! | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person " Exactly, would take them forever to get the body for the role they're playing without it and to maintain it. Yet I guess it's ok for them because they're famous | |||
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"Chaps just do you! I admire the work, commitment and discipline that goes in to those physiques. As long as you are happy then that’s the main thing. Some will prefer some tubbyness, some want a washboard! " Exactly. For the most part I see those discussions as insecure people trying to validate or put themselves forward at the expense of others. Be happy in your own skin, if you want to judge others based solely on what they look like fine, just keep it to yourself. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything Likewise, however I wish I could eat what I wanted lol" It's expensive to maintain weight though with a high metabolism, I'd prefer to put weight on easily | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person " Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK..." Yeah I was talking about steroids | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK..." Possession for personal use is not an offence | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence" Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment?" It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c" I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight " Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything Likewise, however I wish I could eat what I wanted lol It's expensive to maintain weight though with a high metabolism, I'd prefer to put weight on easily " Ain't that the truth! I already feel like I'm eating loads still have no clue where I could possibly fit more food in to get bigger. But getting back to the topic, sometimes people post the dad bid threads because they are insecure, but the same can be said for skinny People who go to the gym. I've certainly felt I'm not manly enough because of my physique and although I now go for my mental well-being, those lingering feelings are still there. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them?" Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon " Link, I'd like to see what it is | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon " Interesting, especially since its illegal in the UK. Could you link the product? | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Link, I'd like to see what it is" I think we both know whats about to happen.... T-BOOSTER PROTEIN DRINK! WITH ADDED ZINC! | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Link, I'd like to see what it is" Made by USN and just type anabolic protein powder in search | |||
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"I’d prefer to be mocked for being jacked then in hospital suffering the ill effects of morbid obesity " This ^^ I’ve been morbidly obese, it was not a great time. I was extremely unhappy. Now I am literally working my ass off to change and make my body healthier so that it lasts longer. I’m 41 now, I’m probably halfway through my life and want to make the most of the second half because i didn’t much before now. I still have a long way to go! | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Link, I'd like to see what it is Made by USN and just type anabolic protein powder in search " Just because it says anabolic in the name doesnt mean it contains actual anabolic steroids lol. Thats just a protein powder | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Link, I'd like to see what it is I think we both know whats about to happen.... T-BOOSTER PROTEIN DRINK! WITH ADDED ZINC!" I don't know what's in it exactly, they just call it anabolic | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Link, I'd like to see what it is I think we both know whats about to happen.... T-BOOSTER PROTEIN DRINK! WITH ADDED ZINC! I don't know what's in it exactly, they just call it anabolic " Haha well yeah, its literally not anabolic. Not in the sense of anabolic steroids. Its just powdered protein in the form of whey. lol | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? It's a misconception that use is a class offence, only supply falls under class c I have shakes with them already in, they're legal to buy and not really the same as steroids you would inject. More to help with weight gain or maintaining weight Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Link, I'd like to see what it is Made by USN and just type anabolic protein powder in search Just because it says anabolic in the name doesnt mean it contains actual anabolic steroids lol. Thats just a protein powder" I know it doesn't actually have steroids in, that wouldn't be allowed but it's good stuff | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon " Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion" It's my bad They're good though, I got the variety one but not used for ages but keep meaning to start again because it's the only time I gain weight | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion It's my bad They're good though, I got the variety one but not used for ages but keep meaning to start again because it's the only time I gain weight " Its just protein powder so nothing special about that one, if you wanna look for cheaper alternatives bulk powders do some good flavours and on the gaining weight, its the calories that do that, not the protein powder specifically. If your looking for a weight gain shake you really cant be some full fat milk and a good couple scoop of peanut butter. Its just an easy way to get in extra calories | |||
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"You shouldn't let it bother you. It's just stupid opinions from close minded people. It's a good way to know who to avoid. I see it happening often everywhere! It's like on Fab you'll get plus size threads praising a larger woman but in the same sentence they'll tear down a slim woman like it's an OK thing to do. And then you'll get the same from other people who talk about fat people like they are worthless because they're overweight. It goes both ways. Your body doesn't define who you are. And people who judge someone so harshly on their appearance are honestly not worth your energy. " I agree | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person " I would never have believed that Steven Fry, or Jack Black are taking steroids if I hadn't heard it here. Cal | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion It's my bad They're good though, I got the variety one but not used for ages but keep meaning to start again because it's the only time I gain weight Its just protein powder so nothing special about that one, if you wanna look for cheaper alternatives bulk powders do some good flavours and on the gaining weight, its the calories that do that, not the protein powder specifically. If your looking for a weight gain shake you really cant be some full fat milk and a good couple scoop of peanut butter. Its just an easy way to get in extra calories" What he said Ditch the stuff off amazon Bulk whey, oats, milk, banana, peanut butter, throw in some EVOO for extra cals and healthy fats. Much cheaper and better for you | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion It's my bad They're good though, I got the variety one but not used for ages but keep meaning to start again because it's the only time I gain weight Its just protein powder so nothing special about that one, if you wanna look for cheaper alternatives bulk powders do some good flavours and on the gaining weight, its the calories that do that, not the protein powder specifically. If your looking for a weight gain shake you really cant be some full fat milk and a good couple scoop of peanut butter. Its just an easy way to get in extra calories" Yeah my resting rate it 2400 and I do a very physical job so need lots of cals just to maintain and could do with a cow walking behind me all day to keep topped up The tub was only 40 for 5kg which I thought was pretty good but will check out the bulk powers, cheers | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion It's my bad They're good though, I got the variety one but not used for ages but keep meaning to start again because it's the only time I gain weight Its just protein powder so nothing special about that one, if you wanna look for cheaper alternatives bulk powders do some good flavours and on the gaining weight, its the calories that do that, not the protein powder specifically. If your looking for a weight gain shake you really cant be some full fat milk and a good couple scoop of peanut butter. Its just an easy way to get in extra calories Yeah my resting rate it 2400 and I do a very physical job so need lots of cals just to maintain and could do with a cow walking behind me all day to keep topped up The tub was only 40 for 5kg which I thought was pretty good but will check out the bulk powers, cheers " 4.5k calories a day here to maintain my weight mate, I feel your struggle. Cant beat peanut butter and ice cream milk shakes for gaining weight | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person I agree with u mate people assume ur on steroids and steroids get a bad wrap because a small number of people misuse them " To be fair, the "misuse" of steroids is "taking them without a prescription". Anyone who is using steroids for creating their desired body IS by definition misusing them. Cal | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything " I also saw that, it is usually a sign of jelousy. I also have a 6pack and I can eat what I want within my calorie range, by the way do you also watch greg doucette? I like his advice on maingaining. | |||
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"Sorry but youve completely lost me? You have shakes you can legally buy over the counter without a prescription that have anabolic steroids in them? Yes and made by a well known company and sold on amazon Ah, as per the quote, I hope you can understand my confusion It's my bad They're good though, I got the variety one but not used for ages but keep meaning to start again because it's the only time I gain weight Its just protein powder so nothing special about that one, if you wanna look for cheaper alternatives bulk powders do some good flavours and on the gaining weight, its the calories that do that, not the protein powder specifically. If your looking for a weight gain shake you really cant be some full fat milk and a good couple scoop of peanut butter. Its just an easy way to get in extra calories Yeah my resting rate it 2400 and I do a very physical job so need lots of cals just to maintain and could do with a cow walking behind me all day to keep topped up The tub was only 40 for 5kg which I thought was pretty good but will check out the bulk powers, cheers 4.5k calories a day here to maintain my weight mate, I feel your struggle. Cant beat peanut butter and ice cream milk shakes for gaining weight " One day my metabolism will drop no doubt, I only want to gain about a stone as I'm 10st 9lb at the moment | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person I agree with u mate people assume ur on steroids and steroids get a bad wrap because a small number of people misuse them To be fair, the "misuse" of steroids is "taking them without a prescription". Anyone who is using steroids for creating their desired body IS by definition misusing them. Cal" Getting a bit overly deep into semantics arent you? I think we all know what he means by misusing. Taking too much that it becomes dangerous or letting the drug control/dictate your emotions, turning you into a knob head | |||
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"I work out about 4/5 times a week, and being vegan it's really hard to get the calories/protein up to the same level as those of you who eat dairy/meat. As a result I'm lean, but struggle to gain bulk. I eat tons of 'extras' like chia, seeds, nuts, hemp etc in an attempt to get my macros up but it's a major struggle. " Oat milk + peanut butter is your friend. Throw in a scoop of protein powder or Huel or something and your onto a winner | |||
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"I work out about 4/5 times a week, and being vegan it's really hard to get the calories/protein up to the same level as those of you who eat dairy/meat. As a result I'm lean, but struggle to gain bulk. I eat tons of 'extras' like chia, seeds, nuts, hemp etc in an attempt to get my macros up but it's a major struggle. Oat milk + peanut butter is your friend. Throw in a scoop of protein powder or Huel or something and your onto a winner" Thanks, good advice. I really (really) dislike peanuts/peanut butter so this is also tricky for me. I sound like a right finicky eater now don't I! | |||
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"Make your own seitan ...... Yeah, I do eat seitan, tofu etc as well. I'm probably just not good at eating 6 meals a day like some guys do! Ve-gains are just hard! (see what I did there)" I did Luke I did ! Impressive! | |||
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"I work out about 4/5 times a week, and being vegan it's really hard to get the calories/protein up to the same level as those of you who eat dairy/meat. As a result I'm lean, but struggle to gain bulk. I eat tons of 'extras' like chia, seeds, nuts, hemp etc in an attempt to get my macros up but it's a major struggle. Oat milk + peanut butter is your friend. Throw in a scoop of protein powder or Huel or something and your onto a winner Thanks, good advice. I really (really) dislike peanuts/peanut butter so this is also tricky for me. I sound like a right finicky eater now don't I! " No not at all we all have our preferences and its important to be able to work around that. My advice is to just look for opportunities to find liquid calories you enjoy, because liquid always goes down easier than solids. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything I also saw that, it is usually a sign of jelousy. I also have a 6pack and I can eat what I want within my calorie range, by the way do you also watch greg doucette? I like his advice on maingaining." I don't watch him no but will have a look, cheers buddy | |||
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"I work out about 4/5 times a week, and being vegan it's really hard to get the calories/protein up to the same level as those of you who eat dairy/meat. As a result I'm lean, but struggle to gain bulk. I eat tons of 'extras' like chia, seeds, nuts, hemp etc in an attempt to get my macros up but it's a major struggle. Oat milk + peanut butter is your friend. Throw in a scoop of protein powder or Huel or something and your onto a winner Thanks, good advice. I really (really) dislike peanuts/peanut butter so this is also tricky for me. I sound like a right finicky eater now don't I! " I'm not keen on it but if you just have a couple of spoonfuls and wash it down with something else then it's not so bad | |||
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"I work out about 4/5 times a week, and being vegan it's really hard to get the calories/protein up to the same level as those of you who eat dairy/meat. As a result I'm lean, but struggle to gain bulk. I eat tons of 'extras' like chia, seeds, nuts, hemp etc in an attempt to get my macros up but it's a major struggle. Oat milk + peanut butter is your friend. Throw in a scoop of protein powder or Huel or something and your onto a winner Thanks, good advice. I really (really) dislike peanuts/peanut butter so this is also tricky for me. I sound like a right finicky eater now don't I! No not at all we all have our preferences and its important to be able to work around that. My advice is to just look for opportunities to find liquid calories you enjoy, because liquid always goes down easier than solids." Very true, you have to enjoy (or at least not hate) what you're eating/drinking otherwise it's just a chore eh. I've read that Sunflower butter contains the same protein/vitamins as peanut so I might give that a whirl | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything I also saw that, it is usually a sign of jelousy. I also have a 6pack and I can eat what I want within my calorie range, by the way do you also watch greg doucette? I like his advice on maingaining. I don't watch him no but will have a look, cheers buddy " Yw pal, he is also very fun | |||
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"Op, I would love for you to point out where you’ve seen such comments on the forums, cause I’ve never ever seen anything remotely close to the ones you said. All I’ve seen is women stating a preference between the two, maybe I’m wrong, maybe someone can correct me, has anyone else seen these type of comments relating to gym bodies ? " No. I can honestly say I have not seen them. In fact I did say before that I had not seen them. No ....... no I haven't. | |||
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"Op, I would love for you to point out where you’ve seen such comments on the forums, cause I’ve never ever seen anything remotely close to the ones you said. All I’ve seen is women stating a preference between the two, maybe I’m wrong, maybe someone can correct me, has anyone else seen these type of comments relating to gym bodies ? No. I can honestly say I have not seen them. In fact I did say before that I had not seen them. No ....... no I haven't." I’m on a short break at work, haven’t got time to scroll Granny, so my comment was totally blind and just putting it out into the ether. | |||
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"Op, I would love for you to point out where you’ve seen such comments on the forums, cause I’ve never ever seen anything remotely close to the ones you said. All I’ve seen is women stating a preference between the two, maybe I’m wrong, maybe someone can correct me, has anyone else seen these type of comments relating to gym bodies ? No. I can honestly say I have not seen them. In fact I did say before that I had not seen them. No ....... no I haven't." I have seen such comments, very few and far between though | |||
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"I haven’t seen it so much on here but I have on social media advertising campaigns for beauty and fitness products. A well known fitness brand recently featured what can only be described as an overweight woman. I have no problem with that. What did irk me was the THOUSANDS of comments along the lines of “a real woman at last!” So gym fit women aren’t “real” women? The same type of back handed insults were also found on a cosmetics campaign. “At last, a real woman not full of fillers and Botox”. You don’t need to bring other people down to compliment someone else. It boils my piss." I love seeing this? A picture of a morbidly obese woman with comments like "takes a real man to handle a woman like this". Oh so your not a real man for having preferences? | |||
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"I haven’t seen it so much on here but I have on social media advertising campaigns for beauty and fitness products. A well known fitness brand recently featured what can only be described as an overweight woman. I have no problem with that. What did irk me was the THOUSANDS of comments along the lines of “a real woman at last!” So gym fit women aren’t “real” women? The same type of back handed insults were also found on a cosmetics campaign. “At last, a real woman not full of fillers and Botox”. You don’t need to bring other people down to compliment someone else. It boils my piss. I love seeing this? A picture of a morbidly obese woman with comments like "takes a real man to handle a woman like this". Oh so your not a real man for having preferences?" Surely it just takes a strong (literally) man to handle a woman like that? I'm a real man, I have opposable thumbs and a penis so I qualify (I think). | |||
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"I haven’t seen it so much on here but I have on social media advertising campaigns for beauty and fitness products. A well known fitness brand recently featured what can only be described as an overweight woman. I have no problem with that. What did irk me was the THOUSANDS of comments along the lines of “a real woman at last!” So gym fit women aren’t “real” women? The same type of back handed insults were also found on a cosmetics campaign. “At last, a real woman not full of fillers and Botox”. You don’t need to bring other people down to compliment someone else. It boils my piss. I love seeing this? A picture of a morbidly obese woman with comments like "takes a real man to handle a woman like this". Oh so your not a real man for having preferences?" Personally I think if you have a penis, you're a real man no matter your size or preference. Your size shouldn't define how much of a man you're to others | |||
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"It would just be so nice to not live in a world that isn't driven to tear into eachother based on looks. I know it would never happen but would be nice." It would be, and to some of us it does matter - I had someone on here who people would call fit/attractive be quite rude to me over the weekend and when I told her she'd suddenly become really unattractive as a result of her personality, she couldn't believe it. I ended up having to block her. | |||
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"It would just be so nice to not live in a world that isn't driven to tear into eachother based on looks. I know it would never happen but would be nice. It would be, and to some of us it does matter - I had someone on here who people would call fit/attractive be quite rude to me over the weekend and when I told her she'd suddenly become really unattractive as a result of her personality, she couldn't believe it. I ended up having to block her." Sorry wont did it again | |||
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"I haven’t seen it so much on here but I have on social media advertising campaigns for beauty and fitness products. A well known fitness brand recently featured what can only be described as an overweight woman. I have no problem with that. What did irk me was the THOUSANDS of comments along the lines of “a real woman at last!” So gym fit women aren’t “real” women? The same type of back handed insults were also found on a cosmetics campaign. “At last, a real woman not full of fillers and Botox”. You don’t need to bring other people down to compliment someone else. It boils my piss. I love seeing this? A picture of a morbidly obese woman with comments like "takes a real man to handle a woman like this". Oh so your not a real man for having preferences? Personally I think if you have a penis, you're a real man no matter your size or preference. Your size shouldn't define how much of a man you're to others " I don’t think having a penis should define that. If a guy serves for his country in the army and loses his dick is he no longer a man? Or just less of a man? | |||
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"It would just be so nice to not live in a world that isn't driven to tear into eachother based on looks. I know it would never happen but would be nice. It would be, and to some of us it does matter - I had someone on here who people would call fit/attractive be quite rude to me over the weekend and when I told her she'd suddenly become really unattractive as a result of her personality, she couldn't believe it. I ended up having to block her." I always say it doesn't matter how good looking you're if you have a bad attitude it tarnishes your looks | |||
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"I haven’t seen it so much on here but I have on social media advertising campaigns for beauty and fitness products. A well known fitness brand recently featured what can only be described as an overweight woman. I have no problem with that. What did irk me was the THOUSANDS of comments along the lines of “a real woman at last!” So gym fit women aren’t “real” women? The same type of back handed insults were also found on a cosmetics campaign. “At last, a real woman not full of fillers and Botox”. You don’t need to bring other people down to compliment someone else. It boils my piss. I love seeing this? A picture of a morbidly obese woman with comments like "takes a real man to handle a woman like this". Oh so your not a real man for having preferences? Personally I think if you have a penis, you're a real man no matter your size or preference. Your size shouldn't define how much of a man you're to others I don’t think having a penis should define that. If a guy serves for his country in the army and loses his dick is he no longer a man? Or just less of a man? " No it doesn't make him less of a man, makes him very unlucky is all | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. " I concur. In part the site itself is to blame, since there's a section on your profile for body type which I believe you can't leave blank. That said, and as you allude to, everyone has a preference and that's OK as well. Personally I'm attracted to slimmer body types, but when I had it written on my profile I was accused of being an arrogant arsehole, so you can't really win. That said, attraction takes many forms, and there have been plenty of people who you wouldn't necessarily put in the slimmer category who are extremely attractive - attraction is always way more than the physical. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. " I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. " Exactly this! We all feel a bit shit about ourselves, sometimes, but it's not the fault of the people that are often deemed more attractive so why blame them... People saying shitty things deserve a backlash not the people that aren't! | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. " I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. " Yep, 100%. Those events that promote themselves as 'exclusive' are really not getting it. I used to run an event that we promoted as 'inclusive' and the vibe was so much better. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person I agree with u mate people assume ur on steroids and steroids get a bad wrap because a small number of people misuse them To be fair, the "misuse" of steroids is "taking them without a prescription". Anyone who is using steroids for creating their desired body IS by definition misusing them. Cal Getting a bit overly deep into semantics arent you? I think we all know what he means by misusing. Taking too much that it becomes dangerous or letting the drug control/dictate your emotions, turning you into a knob head " No, I'd stand totally by what I said. If they're not being prescribed by a doctor, then that is misuse. Cal | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. " I agree. My husband is slim/athletic build and in the ten years we've been together, I've never had a comment (to my face) about my size. But the amount of comments he has had for being slim is astounding. To the part about acceptance and praise of other body types. I honestly think that it's because some people assume if you are slim or athletic you must just be happy with yourself and surely can't have any insecurities. If you make changes to yourself via gym or go the surgical route you must be vain. | |||
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"It would just be so nice to not live in a world that isn't driven to tear into eachother based on looks. I know it would never happen but would be nice. It would be, and to some of us it does matter - I had someone on here who people would call fit/attractive be quite rude to me over the weekend and when I told her she'd suddenly become really unattractive as a result of her personality, she couldn't believe it. I ended up having to block her." Good for you Luke ....... seriously. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. " Then you get others who lose their shit when big women choose to use the term bbw because part of that is beautiful. How dare big women think they're beautiful?! If slim women can't be beautiful and big women can't be beautiful, who the fuck is beautiful lol (we're all beautiful by the way ) | |||
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"It would just be so nice to not live in a world that isn't driven to tear into eachother based on looks. I know it would never happen but would be nice. It would be, and to some of us it does matter - I had someone on here who people would call fit/attractive be quite rude to me over the weekend and when I told her she'd suddenly become really unattractive as a result of her personality, she couldn't believe it. I ended up having to block her. Good for you Luke ....... seriously." So good you said something, no need for rudeness from anyone to anyone. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. Yep, 100%. Those events that promote themselves as 'exclusive' are really not getting it. I used to run an event that we promoted as 'inclusive' and the vibe was so much better." I have had people of all sizes attend my bbw nights. They are promoted as nights for bbws and their admirers so by putting an arbitrary size on entrance would be to deny admirers (and women who feel they are bbw even though they are smaller that what people would equate the term bbw with) entry. My only entry criteria is acceptance. | |||
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"its each to their own no need for snide comments to anyone im not a twiggy lady im a big girl im me what you see is what you get same as gym bods if you dont like walk on bye " Eerrmmm... Twiggy?! | |||
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"Op, I would love for you to point out where you’ve seen such comments on the forums, cause I’ve never ever seen anything remotely close to the ones you said. All I’ve seen is women stating a preference between the two, maybe I’m wrong, maybe someone can correct me, has anyone else seen these type of comments relating to gym bodies ? No. I can honestly say I have not seen them. In fact I did say before that I had not seen them. No ....... no I haven't." People only see what they want to see... | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I agree. My husband is slim/athletic build and in the ten years we've been together, I've never had a comment (to my face) about my size. But the amount of comments he has had for being slim is astounding. To the part about acceptance and praise of other body types. I honestly think that it's because some people assume if you are slim or athletic you must just be happy with yourself and surely can't have any insecurities. If you make changes to yourself via gym or go the surgical route you must be vain. " I'd love to be able to say I'm happy with my body but I had being as skinny as I am | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. Then you get others who lose their shit when big women choose to use the term bbw because part of that is beautiful. How dare big women think they're beautiful?! If slim women can't be beautiful and big women can't be beautiful, who the fuck is beautiful lol (we're all beautiful by the way ) " . | |||
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"I've noticed a lot of "gym body vs dad body" threads recently, and there are always comments (in those threads) that seem to be an attack towards people that go to the gym. Now here is the definition of body shaming: "the action or practice of humiliating someone by making mocking or critical comments about their body shape or size". Here are some comments that I find perfectly resonate this statement: "Men with big muscles are only trying to compensate for a small penis " "Men who lift weights aren't very smart" "People that constantly go to the gym are egotistical, selfish, arrogant and self centred" "Oi big man, don'tyou have money for a bigger T shirt?...haha" I'm not gonna lie, some of these comments (especially the ones talking about intelligence and personality) kinda bother me and make me feel like I should be ashamed of the way I look (even thoughthe way that I look is just the byproductof the way I train...it's not the objective). And yes I understand that people that go to the gym also get their compliments and body shaming is mostly linked to fat shaming, but if you truly believe in body positivity don't lift one group of people up by putting another group of people down, which is what I see sometimes in the comment section. I understand that some have bad experiences with certain people that look in a specific way, but what I'm trying to say is judge individuals (not people) based on their behaviour. It's really just common sense...now off I go to the gym " I think it's import to understand and talk about dysmorphic disorder when talking about exercise. (BDF) has three classes for body dysmorphia – muscle dysmorphic disorder, male pattern baldness and height. Let’s look at the muscular category –(women have similar) Muscle Dysmorphic Disorder (MDD) is popularly known as “Reverse anorexia” or “Bigorexia” by the media. It’s characterized by – Excessive time and over-exertion in exercise and or weight lifting to increase muscle mass. Preoccupation and panicking over missed workouts Overtraining or training when injured Disordered eating Steroid abuse Break up of relationships and family strains. Like everything else in life it's all about moderation, yet every day the media shows us airbrushed images of perceived perfection. It used to affect women more than men, but now it's having a big impact on guys. It's worth noting that it's not just the obese who die from heart attacks, but also those who over exercise and put their bodies through unnecessary extremes. When I was young I suffered from bulimia and body dysmorphic disorder. Over the years I've learned to understand and live with the latter. It never goes away. I was gym obsessed. Missed meals and panicked over missed work outs. Ultimately we have to keep checks on ourselves and watch out for the above symptoms. Mental illness over body image is prevalent and we must all take care and seek help if it begins to take over your life and your time. Take it easy out there and keep asking yourself why you're doing this. I've been there so understand. | |||
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"I've never seen anybody bashing people who choose to be gym fit, I have seen people mention that it's not the most important thing and people who seem to base there entire persona on the fact they go to the gym and put down others as being less than them for not being gym fit as if that's the be all and end all seem like very shallow people but I wouldent say that's bullying them " And I have not seen people who seem to base their entire persona on the fact they go to the gym and put down others as being less than them for not being gym fit as if that's the be all and end all... I guess people only see what they want to see. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment?" I think not only is it class c drug here am more concerned the poster whom I assume is aware of risks may have some other issues. I say that because why on earth can they not just use own body drug free because is it about vanity possible otherwise think just plain stupid in my opinion. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. Then you get others who lose their shit when big women choose to use the term bbw because part of that is beautiful. How dare big women think they're beautiful?! If slim women can't be beautiful and big women can't be beautiful, who the fuck is beautiful lol (we're all beautiful by the way ) " But a BBW thread runs all the time. Where's one for slimmer or any other body type? Surelybthere should be one for all body types so that those with preferences can dip into to the one that gets them. And then if no one comments in a negative way or feeling left out surely the forums at least become more inclusive? And I totally agree we are all beautiful. | |||
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"I’ve never seen gym body shaming on any thread?? " That's fair man...but just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not happening. Also the post wasn't only fab focused...I wasn't talking only about the website, but people's behaviour in general | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I agree. My husband is slim/athletic build and in the ten years we've been together, I've never had a comment (to my face) about my size. But the amount of comments he has had for being slim is astounding. To the part about acceptance and praise of other body types. I honestly think that it's because some people assume if you are slim or athletic you must just be happy with yourself and surely can't have any insecurities. If you make changes to yourself via gym or go the surgical route you must be vain. " Exactly this. I've seen the word skinny used more than I care to count but not the word fat. Yet apparently it's acceptable to use the word skinny, but not fat. And I totally agree with the rest of your comment particularly the part about how people must be vain. | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. Then you get others who lose their shit when big women choose to use the term bbw because part of that is beautiful. How dare big women think they're beautiful?! If slim women can't be beautiful and big women can't be beautiful, who the fuck is beautiful lol (we're all beautiful by the way ) But a BBW thread runs all the time. Where's one for slimmer or any other body type? Surelybthere should be one for all body types so that those with preferences can dip into to the one that gets them. And then if no one comments in a negative way or feeling left out surely the forums at least become more inclusive? And I totally agree we are all beautiful. " I genuinely don't know why there isn't similar threads for slim women. I have seen a few start up but there is always some angry bigger women who come in and start drama about being excluded yet you know if anyone dared to do that in a bbw thread all hell would break loose. I guess it's just insecurity on many sides, big, slim, fit, unfit, gym bod, not gym bod etc. I have personally challenged people when I have seen it happen as it completely belittles the acceptance balance when it happens. | |||
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"Someone commented the other day that people with abs look like they either jack up or they don't eat, I thought that was a low blow. I eat what I want and don't take anything As someone that takes stuff there’s this massive assumption that anyone that uses steroids is a giant aggressive meatheat All your favourite Hollywood stars take it. Chris Hemsworth. Tom Hardy. Chris Pratt. Too many more to mention. Judge the person Not sure what "stuff" you're taking, but if it's anabolic steroids they're a class C drug in the UK... Possession for personal use is not an offence Yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at with that comment? I think not only is it class c drug here am more concerned the poster whom I assume is aware of risks may have some other issues. I say that because why on earth can they not just use own body drug free because is it about vanity possible otherwise think just plain stupid in my opinion." Performance based goals in a sport where drugs are allowed. Don’t speak on things you know nothing about | |||
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"You shouldn't let it bother you. It's just stupid opinions from close minded people. It's a good way to know who to avoid. I see it happening often everywhere! It's like on Fab you'll get plus size threads praising a larger woman but in the same sentence they'll tear down a slim woman like it's an OK thing to do. And then you'll get the same from other people who talk about fat people like they are worthless because they're overweight. It goes both ways. Your body doesn't define who you are. And people who judge someone so harshly on their appearance are honestly not worth your energy. " Feeling shamed for having a good body is not the same as feeling inferior for having an unfit or obese body. I’m sorry, but if comments on a forum honestly make you feel bad about having a physique you work hard at, you have bigger problems than your body shape. If you enjoy keeping your body looking the way it does, be proud of it. Don’t adopt the feelings of persecution felt by people who are deemed worthless and unattractive by the majority of society. | |||
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"You shouldn't let it bother you. It's just stupid opinions from close minded people. It's a good way to know who to avoid. I see it happening often everywhere! It's like on Fab you'll get plus size threads praising a larger woman but in the same sentence they'll tear down a slim woman like it's an OK thing to do. And then you'll get the same from other people who talk about fat people like they are worthless because they're overweight. It goes both ways. Your body doesn't define who you are. And people who judge someone so harshly on their appearance are honestly not worth your energy. Feeling shamed for having a good body is not the same as feeling inferior for having an unfit or obese body. I’m sorry, but if comments on a forum honestly make you feel bad about having a physique you work hard at, you have bigger problems than your body shape. If you enjoy keeping your body looking the way it does, be proud of it. Don’t adopt the feelings of persecution felt by people who are deemed worthless and unattractive by the majority of society." For anyone that wants a condensed version of this “If you are what society deems attractive your feelings don’t matter and you should just suck it up” | |||
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"You shouldn't let it bother you. It's just stupid opinions from close minded people. It's a good way to know who to avoid. I see it happening often everywhere! It's like on Fab you'll get plus size threads praising a larger woman but in the same sentence they'll tear down a slim woman like it's an OK thing to do. And then you'll get the same from other people who talk about fat people like they are worthless because they're overweight. It goes both ways. Your body doesn't define who you are. And people who judge someone so harshly on their appearance are honestly not worth your energy. Feeling shamed for having a good body is not the same as feeling inferior for having an unfit or obese body. I’m sorry, but if comments on a forum honestly make you feel bad about having a physique you work hard at, you have bigger problems than your body shape. If you enjoy keeping your body looking the way it does, be proud of it. Don’t adopt the feelings of persecution felt by people who are deemed worthless and unattractive by the majority of society." It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming | |||
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"For anyone that wants a condensed version of" ...my opinion, we all have physical traits that some will like and some won't. Stay where you are appreciated and ignore anyone else. Whatever you do don't let the bad opinions make it into your head enough to have to even think, let alone talk about them | |||
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"It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming" And these people are important to you because? | |||
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"It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming" That's your own insecurity. That's something you need to work on. My opinion of your intellectual fitness is irrelevant to your actual intelligence. You can call me lazy because I'm fat and its not going to make me feel bad. i know its not true. | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard" I have noticed | |||
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"I'm to old to give a shit what people think about me. " To old ? blimey fella you’re not even middle aged | |||
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"It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming And these people are important to you because?" It's simply wrong...and that reason alone should be enough for me to address and present the issue and the fact that it bothers me. Should a man not speak about the things that bother him? Are we still ment to internalise our feelings. The point of the forums is to talk about things, why am I ment to feel like I shouldn't have opened this thread? | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard" The body positivity movement is for all | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard" I'm fat, been shamed all my life and I don't care at all. So the only "double standard" is people who fret about such stuff and those that don't. | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard I'm fat, been shamed all my life and I don't care at all. So the only "double standard" is people who fret about such stuff and those that don't." Ah right so coz your ok with it others feelings don’t matter? | |||
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"It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming That's your own insecurity. That's something you need to work on. My opinion of your intellectual fitness is irrelevant to your actual intelligence. You can call me lazy because I'm fat and its not going to make me feel bad. i know its not true. " I'm secure enough to admit I am insecure...but that has nothing to do with the fact that I believe it's simply wrong to judge people like that. And it shouldn't be an issue for me to talk about it | |||
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"I'm to old to give a shit what people think about me. To old ? blimey fella you’re not even middle aged " Still to old to give a shit though | |||
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"It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming That's your own insecurity. That's something you need to work on. My opinion of your intellectual fitness is irrelevant to your actual intelligence. You can call me lazy because I'm fat and its not going to make me feel bad. i know its not true. I'm secure enough to admit I am insecure...but that has nothing to do with the fact that I believe it's simply wrong to judge people like that. And it shouldn't be an issue for me to talk about it" Your missing the point mate, he’s ok with it so you should just get over it /s | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard" as said above its an example of a lack of empathy. I think you are right tho. Form a movement of your own. "Fit for equality" seems like a good name. I'm sure you will have lots of people who will help support you and your brethren. No one should feel bad about how they look. But then again, some people just need to feel victimised. | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard" I don't think that's how it is at all. I'm commenting here now as earlier I did say don't let it bother you because that opinion comes from close minded people so I'm not clear if you are referring to me. But I stand by that, and I'd apply it to someone who was being targeted for being overweight too. As I said, your body doesn't define you. But you can't compare being shamed for being the beauty standard to being shamed for being fat. Your feelings are completely valid, but fat people face discrimination and other awful things just because they are overweight. Gym fit and slim etc do not have to live through what fat people do. You can't compare the two imo. I don't agree with shaming ANY type of body, but I don't think that's a double standard in the slightest. | |||
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"It's the perception that people who work out lack intelligence or that are vain that I have an issue with...and that too is a form of body shaming That's your own insecurity. That's something you need to work on. My opinion of your intellectual fitness is irrelevant to your actual intelligence. You can call me lazy because I'm fat and its not going to make me feel bad. i know its not true. I'm secure enough to admit I am insecure...but that has nothing to do with the fact that I believe it's simply wrong to judge people like that. And it shouldn't be an issue for me to talk about it Your missing the point mate, he’s ok with it so you should just get over it /s" I said he should work on it. But thanks for reading what I wrote | |||
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"I find on fabs there's a silent or underlying reluctance to embrace the more slim, athletic, toned, defined, body types, and more of an acceptance and/or praise and/or emphasis on other body types. It feels like there's a view that the smaller defined types are regarded as able to get who they want when they want easily, and there's a jealously or even animosity towards it. It's just my view, but I feel from my experiences on fabs, as a slimmer woman, that's the case. In my view, I don't see why it's such a big deal and discussed so much anyway as I see fabs as a place where there's someone (or more) for everyone: the site caters for all prefences and tastes. I should ignore the "body-type" threads, but I guess it irritates me that it's even a thing within a swinging community of adults - especially when there's a general consensus that it's about the person themselves and physical attraction is secondary so often. Even women with breast enlargements seem to get shamed as not being naturally boob beautiful and threads fill with how natural boobs are so much better. Yet there are some men that have a real fetish or penchant for enhanced boobs, but others are basically shaming them too in the process. I actually agree with you to some extent in this. I cring when I see bigger women comment on threads seeking slim/petite women with things such as 'huh, guess that rules me out then?! '..... Yeah it does but that's their prerogative! There's hundreds of threads promoting preferences fof bigger women. I once got an awful lot of abuse from someone on here because I defended parties like killing kittens. I was told that as a bigger person and an organiser of bbw event I should hate events that seek the 'body beautiful' and that I should set a starting body size for my parties. Kindly told them where to go lol Preference is fine, it's how people express it that usually gets peoples backs up. I agree. It's amusing that the people you talk about describe events for slimmer people as seeking the body beautiful thereby implying that larger bodies aren't. Then you get others who lose their shit when big women choose to use the term bbw because part of that is beautiful. How dare big women think they're beautiful?! If slim women can't be beautiful and big women can't be beautiful, who the fuck is beautiful lol (we're all beautiful by the way ) But a BBW thread runs all the time. Where's one for slimmer or any other body type? Surelybthere should be one for all body types so that those with preferences can dip into to the one that gets them. And then if no one comments in a negative way or feeling left out surely the forums at least become more inclusive? And I totally agree we are all beautiful. I genuinely don't know why there isn't similar threads for slim women. I have seen a few start up but there is always some angry bigger women who come in and start drama about being excluded yet you know if anyone dared to do that in a bbw thread all hell would break loose. I guess it's just insecurity on many sides, big, slim, fit, unfit, gym bod, not gym bod etc. I have personally challenged people when I have seen it happen as it completely belittles the acceptance balance when it happens. " Would be nice wouldn't it if the balance was there and it was more inclusive on the whole. It would build confidence rather than tear it down quite often. | |||
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"Ah right so coz your ok with it others feelings don’t matter? " That's not my point and I'm sure you know it. My point is that being upset by what random people say is a weakness of the mind. I thought that perhaps the OP and others 'troubled' by this could make use of this positive advice. | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard I don't think that's how it is at all. I'm commenting here now as earlier I did say don't let it bother you because that opinion comes from close minded people so I'm not clear if you are referring to me. But I stand by that, and I'd apply it to someone who was being targeted for being overweight too. As I said, your body doesn't define you. But you can't compare being shamed for being the beauty standard to being shamed for being fat. Your feelings are completely valid, but fat people face discrimination and other awful things just because they are overweight. Gym fit and slim etc do not have to live through what fat people do. You can't compare the two imo. I don't agree with shaming ANY type of body, but I don't think that's a double standard in the slightest. " I'm not entirely disagreeing with you and sorry to jump in but some body types do suffer because of their body type too. I say this as someone who weighed 7st 3 for years on end despite having children and suffered a tonne of crap for being 'skinny'. Regulary asked if I was anorexic, if I made myself sick, if I had an eating disorder, if I actually ate, if I had periods and endless and countless snide cruel remarks from larger people in the workplace and out of it. I actually became so paranoid about it that after eating in front of people I totally avoided the bathroom because I thought people would assume I was myself sick. Yet I stuffed my face all the time and with the unhealthy foods too and didn't gain a pound till I got much older. So while gym fit etc may never suffer what larger people do they still suffer things that others don't. | |||
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"Ah right so coz your ok with it others feelings don’t matter? That's not my point and I'm sure you know it. My point is that being upset by what random people say is a weakness of the mind. I thought that perhaps the OP and others 'troubled' by this could make use of this positive advice." You saying we are weak minded doesn't sound like a positive advice to me. | |||
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"Who decides these people have gym bods or is it a self proclaimed status cause they lifted a dumbbell once back in 1994? " It's quite obvious who has a gym bod. | |||
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"Isn’t it interesting that when it’s fit people shamed comment like the 2 above turn up basically saying “why do you let it bother you get over it” But when it’s fat people getting shamed there’s an entire movement dedicated to getting it to stop I feel a double standard" Why do you think that is? It’s similar to the All Lives Matter movement, or people wanting Straight Pride. People rally around the obese because they’re so often seen and treated as inferior. How is your life actually negatively impacted by being fit? Have you been passed over for a job opportunity? Been unable to find the clothing you’d like? Been judged as lazy, greedy, poor, and weak-willed, before people have even spoken with you? Had the prefix ‘fit' said every time someone insults you? If life was so unbearable because of your physique, I’m sure you’d quit lifting or whatever it is that makes you look the way you do. You don’t have a weakness, flaw, or disorder that makes you overeat or lack motivation to exercise. That’s why people are overly supportive of the fat and unfit. It’s about being kind. Inclusive. Showing solidarity with people who aren’t as fortunate. And, believe it or not, this is a sex site, and some people actually do enjoy lots of flesh! But not as many as you imagine. Look at the top Fabbed photos if you think slim people are penalised and disadvantaged. Looking for oppression is on the increase, these days. Don’t be that person. | |||
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"Who decides these people have gym bods or is it a self proclaimed status cause they lifted a dumbbell once back in 1994? It's quite obvious who has a gym bod. " That’s just it, it isn’t | |||
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