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Does vaping count as being a smoker??
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” "
I don’t think it matters. But, taking in to account people that don’t like smokers (I’m a dirty smoker so can only say what is potential) due to the smell and taste, but, vaping doesn’t smell like tobacco or taste the same.
So I’d say gaping in this instance os totally separate |
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over a year ago
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
Guess I’ll have to change my profile then "
I’d leave it but maybe put a comment on your about yourself section |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking. "
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now |
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now "
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking"
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area "
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation. |
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation."
Wrong. It’s vaping. You even refer to it as such in your comment. Smoking involves..well…smoke |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation.
Wrong. It’s vaping. You even refer to it as such in your comment. Smoking involves..well…smoke"
You didn't read what I wrote at all and arguing for the sake of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation.
Wrong. It’s vaping. You even refer to it as such in your comment. Smoking involves..well…smoke
You didn't read what I wrote at all and arguing for the sake of it."
I read every word |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation.
Wrong. It’s vaping. You even refer to it as such in your comment. Smoking involves..well…smoke
You didn't read what I wrote at all and arguing for the sake of it.
I read every word "
That's nice then enjoy your day. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation.
Wrong. It’s vaping. You even refer to it as such in your comment. Smoking involves..well…smoke
You didn't read what I wrote at all and arguing for the sake of it.
I read every word
That's nice then enjoy your day."
Vaping is vape
Smoking is smoke
Surely you can understand |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” "
I’m a vaper but do show in profile text but yes different smell to smoker doesn’t linger on us either |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"is it just me that finds vape smoke worse than ciggy smoke, you often see people walking along puffing out huge clouds of smoke incomparison to a ciggy"
Indeed, it's not very nice to be suddenly enveloped by a cloud of stuff that's just been inside someone lungs. |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
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Does the law allow you to vape indoors? Or is it legally classed as smoking?
They may be technically different but I would say most see them as a similar act.
Not pleasant to have to inhale someone else's second hand steam, and mildly annoying when someone continually keeps having to pause conversations, dinner or drinks to go and fulfill their addiction.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"is it just me that finds vape smoke worse than ciggy smoke, you often see people walking along puffing out huge clouds of smoke incomparison to a ciggy
Indeed, it's not very nice to be suddenly enveloped by a cloud of stuff that's just been inside someone lungs."
Why did you ignore Lady Luck? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does the law allow you to vape indoors? Or is it legally classed as smoking?
They may be technically different but I would say most see them as a similar act.
Not pleasant to have to inhale someone else's second hand steam, and mildly annoying when someone continually keeps having to pause conversations, dinner or drinks to go and fulfill their addiction.
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The law states no nicotine based products |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” "
I don't mean to rude, but the girl was right. You should have said that you do smoke. Vaping is still smoking. I wouldn't be happy either. I think you should put on your profile I don't smoke normal cigarettes but I do vaping. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way |
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way"
Just to end it. if someone ask "do you smoke" and you use a vaping device then say yes. That way you won't be offended when they ask you to get the fuck out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way
Just to end it. if someone ask "do you smoke" and you use a vaping device then say yes. That way you won't be offended when they ask you to get the fuck out."
On the contrary. You follow science and experts and say you don’t smoke, but comment you however vape |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way"
How exactly is it not harmful their is nothing to say that it's not safe just as much that it is whilst the nicotine is still harmful in vaping and most likely the chemicals but vaping can also cause clots in the lungs you breathe in bubbles from vaping that goes pop pop |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way
How exactly is it not harmful their is nothing to say that it's not safe just as much that it is whilst the nicotine is still harmful in vaping and most likely the chemicals but vaping can also cause clots in the lungs you breathe in bubbles from vaping that goes pop pop "
Well correct. But, wrong. Wrong because, who said it wasn’t harmful? I’d read before jumping in |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way
How exactly is it not harmful their is nothing to say that it's not safe just as much that it is whilst the nicotine is still harmful in vaping and most likely the chemicals but vaping can also cause clots in the lungs you breathe in bubbles from vaping that goes pop pop
Well correct. But, wrong. Wrong because, who said it wasn’t harmful? I’d read before jumping in"
Harmful or less harmful what difference would it count to still harmful bottom line I'm guessing you saw less harmful |
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"You inhale liquid that has been heated up that provides smoke which is breathed in and out with chemicals and their is nothing that states are not harmful or is unlike tobacco "
no, it's an aerosol ... you know, like what virus's hitch a ride on to become airbourne |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Of course its harmful. Any inhalation of foreign matters into respiritory system on concentrated level is seriously harmful longterm one pair of lungs, one life, one choice |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way
How exactly is it not harmful their is nothing to say that it's not safe just as much that it is whilst the nicotine is still harmful in vaping and most likely the chemicals but vaping can also cause clots in the lungs you breathe in bubbles from vaping that goes pop pop
Well correct. But, wrong. Wrong because, who said it wasn’t harmful? I’d read before jumping in
Harmful or less harmful what difference would it count to still harmful bottom line I'm guessing you saw less harmful "
So are you saying you don’t know the difference between harmful and non harmful? |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"So just to end it. I googled. Smoking and vaping are fundamentally different. Smoking delivers nicotine by burning tobacco, vaping by heating a liquid up and in a less harmful way
How exactly is it not harmful their is nothing to say that it's not safe just as much that it is whilst the nicotine is still harmful in vaping and most likely the chemicals but vaping can also cause clots in the lungs you breathe in bubbles from vaping that goes pop pop
Well correct. But, wrong. Wrong because, who said it wasn’t harmful? I’d read before jumping in
Harmful or less harmful what difference would it count to still harmful bottom line I'm guessing you saw less harmful
So are you saying you don’t know the difference between harmful and non harmful? "
I understand the difference but either way the impact could make you live a little bit longer or not affect in one way but could in another the point I'm making its not been labelled unlike tobacco so this would make it deadly |
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i googled it and i can't find anything that mentions vaping being non-harmful anywhere .... every resource mentions it being less-harmful but nothing about it being non-harmful (aka harmless), which would indicate that vaping harms in some way or other. hope this helps |
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"i googled it and i can't find anything that mentions vaping being non-harmful anywhere .... every resource mentions it being less-harmful but nothing about it being non-harmful (aka harmless), which would indicate that vaping harms in some way or other. hope this helps "
No one said it wasn’t harmful at least ready before commenting |
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In my book vaping is smoking. It's a slight improvement but it's smoking.
If I claim to be a non crisp eater and then say ......ahhhh yes but these have less fat in them... i'm still a crisp eater. |
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"i googled it and i can't find anything that mentions vaping being non-harmful anywhere .... every resource mentions it being less-harmful but nothing about it being non-harmful (aka harmless), which would indicate that vaping harms in some way or other. hope this helps
No one said it wasn’t harmful at least ready before commenting "
What made you say that ? |
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"In my book vaping is smoking. It's a slight improvement but it's smoking.
If I claim to be a non crisp eater and then say ......ahhhh yes but these have less fat in them... i'm still a crisp eater. "
Also depends on the crisp. If potato, maze or corn based. |
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"Does the law allow you to vape indoors? Or is it legally classed as smoking?
They may be technically different but I would say most see them as a similar act.
Not pleasant to have to inhale someone else's second hand steam, and mildly annoying when someone continually keeps having to pause conversations, dinner or drinks to go and fulfill their addiction.
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"i googled it and i can't find anything that mentions vaping being non-harmful anywhere .... every resource mentions it being less-harmful but nothing about it being non-harmful (aka harmless), which would indicate that vaping harms in some way or other. hope this helps
No one said it wasn’t harmful at least ready before commenting "
you implied it when you threw 'non-harmfu'l into a previous scentence that you posted, but you got rumbled trying to sneak it into the conversation and were rightly called out. the upshot is that the science recognises the harm that vaping does, the science recognises that tobacco smoking is more harmful than vaping propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine aerosol. hope this helps |
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"i googled it and i can't find anything that mentions vaping being non-harmful anywhere .... every resource mentions it being less-harmful but nothing about it being non-harmful (aka harmless), which would indicate that vaping harms in some way or other. hope this helps
No one said it wasn’t harmful at least ready before commenting
you implied it when you threw 'non-harmfu'l into a previous scentence that you posted, but you got rumbled trying to sneak it into the conversation and were rightly called out. the upshot is that the science recognises the harm that vaping does, the science recognises that tobacco smoking is more harmful than vaping propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine aerosol. hope this helps " |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Generally people don’t like smokers because of the smell, it sticks to clothes and causes bad breath as well as health implications for people around (and yourself)
Vaping is (initially, before it became a ‘fad’) what smokers use to quit smoking, to the best of my knowledge passive vaping doesn’t have health implications, you can get odourless vape and it doesn’t cause you to smell or cause bad breath.
The long term health implications are still yet to be determined.
Smoking and vaping are two very different things, you may dislike both but it doesn’t make them the same.
If I vaped I wouldn’t put on my profile that I was a smoker. |
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"In my book vaping is smoking. It's a slight improvement but it's smoking.
If I claim to be a non crisp eater and then say ......ahhhh yes but these have less fat in them... i'm still a crisp eater.
Also depends on the crisp. If potato, maze or corn based."
Okay Spanky.... I confessssss I love them all! |
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
Guess I’ll have to change my profile then "
I vape and would not dream of saying I was a smoker on my fab profile. To me there is a huge difference and if people do not like me vaping then I will not vape when with them. |
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"Generally people don’t like smokers because of the smell, it sticks to clothes and causes bad breath as well as health implications for people around (and yourself)
Vaping is (initially, before it became a ‘fad’) what smokers use to quit smoking, to the best of my knowledge passive vaping doesn’t have health implications, you can get odourless vape and it doesn’t cause you to smell or cause bad breath.
The long term health implications are still yet to be determined.
Smoking and vaping are two very different things, you may dislike both but it doesn’t make them the same.
If I vaped I wouldn’t put on my profile that I was a smoker."
I can agree with that to an extent. There's not one element of misinformation in what you are saying. If we accept that smoking and vaping are different due to the substance content then they are different. If we also accept that watching an adult sucking on a dummy during outings, meals, drinks conversations and sucking and blowing throughout a day or evening and we view things from the 'others' point of view then it's annoying to a degree.
In my experience any vaper who thinks it's not detectable by others is nose and taste blind. They have a perfumed smell and taste.
I have no objection to smokers or vapers or non smokers or non vapers so I have no biases one way or the other.
How difficult is it to put in your profile that you vape ?
How difficult is it to just NOT vape in company? During sex ?
Why let it take over ? |
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over a year ago
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"In other news their is a market for making money regardless of the outcome you get lead to believe and sucked in.
Now over to you for today's weather nick "
Funny you stop trolling when others actually know facts that fundamentally prove you wrong |
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” "
Is vaping the same as smoking when it comes to life insurance? Most insurers consider vaping (as well as chewing nicotine gum or using a nicotine patch) to be the same as smoking.
BUT
No, vaping is not classed as smoking. E-cigarettes aren't the same as conventional cigarettes because they don't contain tobacco, and they aren't burned to produce smoke.
Hope that helps lol
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why don’t you just put on your profile no smoking but put in the blurb that you vape? Then it covers all without a debate
To me if you have to disappear every so often outside on a night out with me to vape then that’s as bad as a smoker |
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I'd say no, and I'd like to see Fab add an option for it. I have no problem hanging around vapers doing their thing as the smell is often quite pleasant and doesn't really hang around on people or their clothes, unlike smoke which I just can't stomach at all
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Vaping is every bit as much a violation of other people's consent as smoking is.
If someone told me they were a non-smoker and then started vaping, I'd consider them to have been deliberately deceitful.
Let's face it – vaping only exists so smokers can try to rules-lawyer their way around smoking bans.
"I'm not a smoker, but *does aggressively smoker things*." |
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over a year ago
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"I suppose pulling up on a meet/date with clouds pluming out the car doesn’t help "
You could always make an announcement as you get out of the car "tonight Matthew I am going to be....Cher"
NBVN x |
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It's a grey area to me, but I wouldn't meet someone who vaped. There something in the smoke that gives me an allergic reaction, eye water, sneezing etc. So the smell of it which is quite potent really is a no go for me, as I know what the consequences will be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would have said yes but both my sons vape and is non tobacco…. They get different tasting ones…. So I don’t count it as, as yes there’s a smoke machine gone off, but I don’t think it’s harmful xxx |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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"In other news their is a market for making money regardless of the outcome you get lead to believe and sucked in.
Now over to you for today's weather nick
Funny you stop trolling when others actually know facts that fundamentally prove you wrong "
Well thank you but it's not trolling when their has been symptoms that vaping is very harmful but reading most of your comments on various threads you seem a professional at this trolling malarkey |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I suppose pulling up on a meet/date with clouds pluming out the car doesn’t help
You could always make an announcement as you get out of the car "tonight Matthew I am going to be....Cher"
NBVN x"
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By *nlyfun3Woman
over a year ago
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I vape. I stopped smoking years ago, therefore I don't smoke. Those that don't like smokers r due to the smell and taste on others and if someone smokes in your presence. As a vaper my breath won't smell, my clothes won't smell, I won't vape in your presence if u don't like it. I do not smoke |
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No... Smoking is smoking and involves smoke and nicotine. It's banned in all pubs.
Vaping is vaping. There is no smoke or smell and very often no nicotine... It's just vapour and completely legal in pubs.
They are different |
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"Met a few girls that have looked at me and said “your profile said non smoker” unfortunately yes
It’s useful explaining your way of thinking.
I was a smoker but thought vaping come under a non smoking category…least I know now
It’s grey area right? It’s not smoking, it doesn’t involve smoke, but contains nicotine (unless you have zero nicotine fluid) so some may say it’s a form of smoking
At least it’s not crack but yeah it’s a grey area
Smoking or vaping it's the same thing.
Yes it's not smoke but the term "smoking" was around before vaping devices were available. It's an all encompassing term to define a particular ritual or act.
It's still breathing in a substance into the lungs and exhaling it into the air so others can breath in the same crap ;if they want to or not, regardless of the method of inhalation."
What a load of tosh.
It's not the same thing in the least. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No... Smoking is smoking and involves smoke and nicotine. It's banned in all pubs.
Vaping is vaping. There is no smoke or smell and very often no nicotine... It's just vapour and completely legal in pubs.
They are different"
There is a smell and it’s rank. I speak from prior experience of having to walk through clouds of that shit whilst taking my daughter to school, from parents taking their last desperate chuffs before reaching the school gates. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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Vaping is still smoking because you still feel the urge and use a vape as a substitube.
An alcoholic who stops drinking alcohol doesn't start washing himself or herself just so they can still smell or feel some kind of comfort which would be similar.
The apparatus used to let in and out smoke feels hungry and the person is unable to stop smoking hence uses a vape you are still addicted to the symptoms which smoking provided |
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Personally I'd be more concerned about the pollutants belched out from cars/lorries etc than from someone vaping, have never experienced being engulfed in this cloud of vape spoken of but hey, maybe I'm just lucky. Other pollutants? Bigger issue but not as popular to lambast drivers I guess. No, smoking isn't pleasant, at all and I'd not meet a smoker but I'd meet a vaper. Not saying it's harmless just less offensive to someone who doesn't. |
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