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E10 FUEL... will it be the death of classic vehicles
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I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
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Designed to get people to buy new cars.. or even go electric..
Things are always evolving and changing .
I would probably say they will have to make alternative for classic cars ..
It was the same when we went from leaded to unleaded .. they made a additive to put in the unleaded. Then cars were also converted as well |
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"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?
I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas... "
How do you keep them on the road long enough to worry about fuel? |
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"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?
I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas... "
Alfa’s? Aren’t they usually in a no. Running state anyway?  |
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"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?
I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas...
Alfa’s? Aren’t they usually in a no. Running state anyway? "
Ahh but when they are... That's the magic. They're bonkers quirky and huge fun. |
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First by a cheap £200-300 pound banger that dose not support it throw it in see the results if not happy take to a fule map company see what they say
E85 can run in all engine and and any power just have to re map the fule to air
It’s amazing what a car will run on couple off YouTube channels do this sort off thing
Car will run on turpentine yes there’s more carbon buildup but handy if your stuck no gas place but a general hardware store |
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"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?
I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas...
How do you keep them on the road long enough to worry about fuel?"
lol all 3 of my cars are alfas... including my day to day one.. they really aren't that bad |
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Havnt really looked into this much I got a old Peugeot 205 but has a new engine in from the 306 so I'm hoping it will be fine just have to wait an see I guess  |
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"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
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The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish. |
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"First by a cheap £200-300 pound banger that dose not support it throw it in see the results if not happy take to a fule map company see what they say
E85 can run in all engine and and any power just have to re map the fule to air
It’s amazing what a car will run on couple off YouTube channels do this sort off thing
Car will run on turpentine yes there’s more carbon buildup but handy if your stuck no gas place but a general hardware store "
That is assuming it has electronic fuel injection and a ecu to control the mapping. A lot of older cars are carburettor only so no mapping and the aroused components may not be capable of handling E10. |
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"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish."
Good to know thanks.
Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?
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"First by a cheap £200-300 pound banger that dose not support it throw it in see the results if not happy take to a fule map company see what they say
E85 can run in all engine and and any power just have to re map the fule to air
It’s amazing what a car will run on couple off YouTube channels do this sort off thing
Car will run on turpentine yes there’s more carbon buildup but handy if your stuck no gas place but a general hardware store
That is assuming it has electronic fuel injection and a ecu to control the mapping. A lot of older cars are carburettor only so no mapping and the aroused components may not be capable of handling E10."
Carbs can be map with bigger and smaller jets to suit the air to fule ratio may need to get a aftermarket carb though that supports jet swapping |
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It's been around in Europe since 2007. Vehicle manufacturers are aware of such changes around 10 years in advance so they are able to design their vehicles to be capable of running whatever fuels are available for their design life - around 10 to 15 years.
They've had E10 and even E85 in the United States since 1990, so anything designed forvtgat market since about 1980 should be fine.
Certainly seems to be a lot of scaremongering going on in the media about this.
My oldest car was built in 1996, but, as it's a Yank, it will be fine.
Anything of an age that may be a concern - and we're talking about fuel lines and hoses - it could be argued, should be having such components renewed in any case as part of a schedule of ongoing maintenance |
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"Oh nice.. I regret selling my Sud so much
64 Beetle and 54 R type should be OK. Xjs, mk1 Golf and Audi Quattro I'm worried about! "
Actually, I would expect your XJS, Golf and Audi will probably be OK as they were all sold in America when they were bringing in E10 over there, and so it's highly likely that Jaguar and VW/Audi will have made the necesary changes across their entire product line up - though certainly worth looking into. |
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"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.
Good to know thanks.
Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?
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No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. |
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"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.
Good to know thanks.
Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?
No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. "
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"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.
Good to know thanks.
Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?
No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. "
1966 mk 1 cortina ....mmmmmm im getting hard here with all this dirty talk !!! |
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"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...
Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.
Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle
The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.
Good to know thanks.
Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?
No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. 1966 mk 1 cortina ....mmmmmm im getting hard here with all this dirty talk !!!"
Yes quite...we call it car porn |
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