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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor. |
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor. "
It can be odd who people choose to listen to and take advice from. My father in law listens to people in work on medical, dental and physio matters, takes advice from his daughter who works in hr on all legal matters ... and so on. But not once have I ever heard him mention taking advice from a person who actually works in the relevant field, for example a physio regarding a strained muscle ... nah, Dave from work is the obvious choice.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I lost a friend during lockdown as she was deliberately breaking lockdown rules last year when we was all meant to stay at home, the time when we was only allowed out in our local area for excise. She was driving miles to her favourite beaches with the kids, posting pictures on fb saying it wasn't easy staying at home with kids. I agree, I was at home with 4 kids, but broke no rules and made the best of a bad situation, every day when she was posting more and more photos I was getting so mad inside, so I fucking well called her out about it then blocked her ass. Nope I'm not even sorry. Was idiots like her that kept the rest of us in lockdown, then again over winter. Selfish bastards.
Don't worry about it OP, shit happens. Move on 
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My friend refuses to be vaccinated and she is always telling me how daft I was to accept it. This usually is mentioned in most conversations but the final straw was when she said I was a bad mum when I told her I would encourage my children to get vaccinated when offered. Not spoke to her since that comment was made. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think you are suffering from a case of putting principles before sex. It’s not a common tendency on fab given the level of commitment required to connect with someone on here (especially if you are a single male). Well done. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think you are suffering from a case of putting principles before sex. It’s not a common tendency on fab given the level of commitment required to connect with someone on here (especially if you are a single male). Well done."
You kidding me?? I would've never blocked her if I was fucking her 
She's just a friend, full of conspiracy theories. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Where did she get 2 years from? The vaccine has been around for less than 1 year"
I questioned this and she sent me an article from a fake news website called lifesitenews
I checked and they have been banned by YouTube for spreading misinformation |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hear from the younger folks I work with, " why should I take the vaccine"?
One guy inparticular who first said the virus wasn't real, then when his wife had it, it was real is terrible for his conspiracy nay saying (he is a flat earther and fake moon landing fan).
He seems to have had a big influance on the teams I work with.
I don't get it at all and the conclusion I came to was folks will listen to anyone.... |
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I have more sympathy for the young who don't want to have it. Their chances of survival are very high. Its the over 50s or with conditions that i really don't get. I know a over 50s woman with diabetes who is refusing much to her children's unhappiness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sorry OP but I find it strange you blocked a friend because she didn't share the same view on 1 thing....if we all agreed on everything with everyone then that would be a sad place...maybe you were looking for a reason to block her? X |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have an aquaintance who is full on tin hat wearer. Some of his theories are straight out of "The Witch-hunter General's Guide to detecting conspiracies in the modern age".
Apart from being antivax, antilockdown, antigovernment, antieverthing, his posts are about 97% drivel. I keep him on my friends list for my own amusements.
The only thing that he did foretell that might end up a reality is Covid Passports.
Everything else I fact check to be on the safe side.
Nice bloke. Utterly bonkers. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I have more sympathy for the young who don't want to have it. Their chances of survival are very high. Its the over 50s or with conditions that i really don't get. I know a over 50s woman with diabetes who is refusing much to her children's unhappiness. "
It's actually the young people who socialise more and then give it to their elders when they go home imo. I agree that young people can fight it better than older people but they can still spread it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry OP but I find it strange you blocked a friend because she didn't share the same view on 1 thing....if we all agreed on everything with everyone then that would be a sad place...maybe you were looking for a reason to block her? X"
I am normally very patient listening to other people's views when they are based on logical reasoning but this was so excruciating. I just couldn't argue with her anymore and she will keep on messaging me via different apps. Had to block her on WhatsApp and her number. |
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"Where did she get 2 years from? The vaccine has been around for less than 1 year"
Don't worry, next year it'll be three years. Just like the world will end in 2012 and they weren't wrong... somehow |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry OP but I find it strange you blocked a friend because she didn't share the same view on 1 thing....if we all agreed on everything with everyone then that would be a sad place...maybe you were looking for a reason to block her? X
I am normally very patient listening to other people's views when they are based on logical reasoning but this was so excruciating. I just couldn't argue with her anymore and she will keep on messaging me via different apps. Had to block her on WhatsApp and her number. "
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"I have more sympathy for the young who don't want to have it. Their chances of survival are very high. Its the over 50s or with conditions that i really don't get. I know a over 50s woman with diabetes who is refusing much to her children's unhappiness. "
This is only reason I had the jabs I have diabetes/asthma and I'm 64 next week! I only had them because it was worrying my kids that I decided not to! X |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor. "
I generally wouldn’t listen to the advice of an NHS GP but doctors I know tell me things they officially aren’t allowed to say about RDAs, factors that lead to health etc and alternative medicine practitioners I know tell me all kinds of things that conflicts with what what the doctors say. We all make our own decisions based on who we trust |
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"Sorry OP but I find it strange you blocked a friend because she didn't share the same view on 1 thing....if we all agreed on everything with everyone then that would be a sad place...maybe you were looking for a reason to block her? X"
Yes agree! I disagree with alot of friends on alot of subjects! If I defriended them all I would have none left! X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sorry OP but I find it strange you blocked a friend because she didn't share the same view on 1 thing....if we all agreed on everything with everyone then that would be a sad place...maybe you were looking for a reason to block her? X
Yes agree! I disagree with alot of friends on alot of subjects! If I defriended them all I would have none left! X"
It wasn't simple as that. I told her that if she doesn't want to get the vaccine it's her choice but she shouldn't advocate to others as she is not qualified to do so but she just won't come around. |
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People are more prone to picking up simple messages when they are at times of high stress, complexity and emotional load. It's perfect breeding ground for dangerous cons to sway the gullible. It's why foreign enemies invest in doing it, to weaken targets or others for their financial gain.
There's nothing inherently stupid in being vulnerable and struggling with a difficult life, especially if someone like this medical emergency is outside of your field of expertise - people can influence you in many ways.
If we feel others are at odds with our core principles and values, we'll often struggle to continue a relationship - it takes effort and usually great commitment.
There are discussions in the virus section that cover allied areas.
Sometimes it's an expensive facet of life that we'll lose people that we'd had with us, when we've discovered more about them. Getting on with others can be very hard.
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"Doctors aren't always right, so that's not the best argument.
Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree."
True. One of my best friends won’t have it. I respect their decision. We just don’t really discuss it now. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"People are more prone to picking up simple messages when they are at times of high stress, complexity and emotional load. It's perfect breeding ground for dangerous cons to sway the gullible. It's why foreign enemies invest in doing it, to weaken targets or others for their financial gain.
There's nothing inherently stupid in being vulnerable and struggling with a difficult life, especially if someone like this medical emergency is outside of your field of expertise - people can influence you in many ways.
If we feel others are at odds with our core principles and values, we'll often struggle to continue a relationship - it takes effort and usually great commitment.
There are discussions in the virus section that cover allied areas.
Sometimes it's an expensive facet of life that we'll lose people that we'd had with us, when we've discovered more about them. Getting on with others can be very hard.
Sorry about typos "
Very well put |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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"The only thing that he did foretell that might end up a reality is Covid Passports."
I've been carrying a vaccine certificate booklet for years on my foreign travels. Yellow Fever, Rabies, Various Meningitis jabs, tetanus, Japanese Encephalitis, more I can't remember of the top of my head. The Yellow Fever is mandatory in some parts of the world and you can't enter the country without it.
It wasn't very prescient to just add Covid to the list.
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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"Doctors aren't always right, so that's not the best argument."
Individual doctors aren't always right. There is a huge consensus of opinion on Covid, much of it proven fact with millions of pounds worth of research to back it up.
"Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree."
Please see my post in the other thread about phrases that really grate!
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"Doctors aren't always right, so that's not the best argument.
Individual doctors aren't always right. There is a huge consensus of opinion on Covid, much of it proven fact with millions of pounds worth of research to back it up.
Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree.
Please see my post in the other thread about phrases that really grate!
Gbat."
Yup |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Doctors aren't always right, so that's not the best argument.
Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree."
Majority of the world's health professionals support the vaccine argument.
Sometimes you just have to be logical and stand for what is right. Saying 'let's agree to disagree' doesn't really mean anything if you put it in perspective. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Doctors aren't always right, so that's not the best argument.
Individual doctors aren't always right. There is a huge consensus of opinion on Covid, much of it proven fact with millions of pounds worth of research to back it up.
Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree.
Please see my post in the other thread about phrases that really grate!
Gbat."
What he said |
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I have a friend who has never met a conspiracy theory she doesn't love.
From faked moon landings to chemtrails to microchips in vaccines, she believes them all.
Sometimes we have conversations about this stuff and I try to keep my patience, but it is difficult.
Her decision on whether or not to be vaccinated is her decision and I wouldn't make it for her. She also doesn't tell me my decision is wrong or try to force her views onto my actions, and I think that's where I'd struggle in the situation as given in the OP.
Its one thing to make a decision, ill-informed as it may be, but it's another level entirely when you're telling someone they're going to die because they've made a different decision.
Ultimately I love my friend and I'd hate to not have her in my life, so we do our best to avoid topics where we're never going to agree, and we try to respect each other's rights to hold different views. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If it's a conversation with a member here I would not bring it to the forum
Even though you may have blocked them they can still see your post and admin take a very dim view of it as often it leads to arguments involving many others.
As for this topic. I would not have bothered to reply to them.
Silence is the best treatment |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If it's a conversation with a member here I would not bring it to the forum
Even though you may have blocked them they can still see your post and admin take a very dim view of it as often it leads to arguments involving many others.
As for this topic. I would not have bothered to reply to them.
Silence is the best treatment"
She's not a fab friend. |
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"Where did she get 2 years from? The vaccine has been around for less than 1 year"
Conspiracy theorists and other manipulators always threaten an event beyond the current timeline. You only have to look at how Qanon in the US has missed one after the other "Trump is returning on ..." event in the last few months to see. |
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"Where did she get 2 years from? The vaccine has been around for less than 1 year
Conspiracy theorists and other manipulators always threaten an event beyond the current timeline. You only have to look at how Qanon in the US has missed one after the other "Trump is returning on ..." event in the last few months to see. "
The real Trump inauguration has been shifted forward several times
Just like the threat of thimerasol in vaccines has been pushed back. Thimerasol was removed so now it's maternal damage.
Ok. Sure sure. You keep telling yourself that  |
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"Sorry OP but I find it strange you blocked a friend because she didn't share the same view on 1 thing....if we all agreed on everything with everyone then that would be a sad place...maybe you were looking for a reason to block her? X"
A friend or acquaintance only needs to cross one red line though, and for OP this was clearly a red line. And we all get to choose what our own red lines are ... unless we are bent over and someone else is holding a cane and they get to choose where to put the next red line. |
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"Doctors aren't always right, so that's not the best argument.
Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree."
Doctors aren’t always right. But they are usually closer to being right than some unqualified windbag down the pub. I know which source I am more likely to listen to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My friend refuses to be vaccinated and she is always telling me how daft I was to accept it. This usually is mentioned in most conversations but the final straw was when she said I was a bad mum when I told her I would encourage my children to get vaccinated when offered. Not spoke to her since that comment was made."
Its an " each to their own " choice as regards getting vaccinated BUT what ya DONT do is call someone something or pass Judgement on them because they did or did'nt get vaccinated. |
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"The only thing that he did foretell that might end up a reality is Covid Passports.
I've been carrying a vaccine certificate booklet for years on my foreign travels. Yellow Fever, Rabies, Various Meningitis jabs, tetanus, Japanese Encephalitis, more I can't remember of the top of my head. The Yellow Fever is mandatory in some parts of the world and you can't enter the country without it.
It wasn't very prescient to just add Covid to the list.
Gbat "
Covid pass bit different needed to get into places in uk x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If it's a conversation with a member here I would not bring it to the forum
Even though you may have blocked them they can still see your post and admin take a very dim view of it as often it leads to arguments involving many others.
As for this topic. I would not have bothered to reply to them.
Silence is the best treatment
She's not a fab friend. "
That's good mate.
Soon a few lately argue it out on here. Not good |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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It’s a choice to get vaccinated or not, that’s every persons right; to have control over what they do or do not put into their body.
It should be a basic level of respect to accept another person’s choice.
However that level of choice doesn’t (nor should it) make you immune from the consequences of that choice. If it reduces your ability to move freely, to work or what you can do, then that’s a result of that choice.
All choices have consequences, such is life. Others shouldn’t be impacted by your choices, if that means you stay at home to limit others getting sick, that’s the consequence.
No one is being forced to do anything, they shouldn’t be judged for their choices and it’s not punishing people, it’s simply the resulting consequences of choices.
My issue with anti vaxers isn’t so much the attitude towards vaccines or ignorance towards contrary evidence of their views, it’s the belief that their choices are free from consequence and that they should be able to live freely with that decision amongst others as they spread infections |
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"It’s a choice to get vaccinated or not, that’s every persons right; to have control over what they do or do not put into their body.
It should be a basic level of respect to accept another person’s choice.
However that level of choice doesn’t (nor should it) make you immune from the consequences of that choice. If it reduces your ability to move freely, to work or what you can do, then that’s a result of that choice.
All choices have consequences, such is life. Others shouldn’t be impacted by your choices, if that means you stay at home to limit others getting sick, that’s the consequence.
No one is being forced to do anything, they shouldn’t be judged for their choices and it’s not punishing people, it’s simply the resulting consequences of choices.
My issue with anti vaxers isn’t so much the attitude towards vaccines or ignorance towards contrary evidence of their views, it’s the belief that their choices are free from consequence and that they should be able to live freely with that decision amongst others as they spread infections "
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I am sad for the OP to have lost a friend over a matter such as vaccination. Still, on the bright side, Darwin theory will soon be in full flow and the only ones catching and potentially dying from covid-19 will be those unvaccinated. |
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor. "
It’s a shame you both didn’t respect one another’s views, people are different and have different options but it doesn’t mean you can’t be friends. |
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor.
It’s a shame you both didn’t respect one another’s views, people are different and have different options but it doesn’t mean you can’t be friends."
I'm not sure there's much respect to be had for "you did something so stupid that you're going to be dead soon" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor.
It’s a shame you both didn’t respect one another’s views, people are different and have different options but it doesn’t mean you can’t be friends.
I'm not sure there's much respect to be had for "you did something so stupid that you're going to be dead soon" "
No I agree, it was a stupid thing to say but worth loosing a friendship over, why make an argument out of it? Just say cheers for that! |
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor.
It’s a shame you both didn’t respect one another’s views, people are different and have different options but it doesn’t mean you can’t be friends.
I'm not sure there's much respect to be had for "you did something so stupid that you're going to be dead soon"
No I agree, it was a stupid thing to say but worth loosing a friendship over, why make an argument out of it? Just say cheers for that! "
There's a point at which you draw a line... |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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There are so many other posts on various social media platforms about our forefathers who boldly fought the hun for us, "the greatest generation" etc etc. Yet some of the same people who quite reasonably celebrate such behaviour are the same people that won't even risk a sore arm to prevent other people from catching covid and dying.
Thank fuck it's not some of today's generation being asked to go to war. They can't even go to Tesco with a mask on, FFS.
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"There are so many other posts on various social media platforms about our forefathers who boldly fought the hun for us, "the greatest generation" etc etc. Yet some of the same people who quite reasonably celebrate such behaviour are the same people that won't even risk a sore arm to prevent other people from catching covid and dying.
Thank fuck it's not some of today's generation being asked to go to war. They can't even go to Tesco with a mask on, FFS.
Gbat"
I'm sure it's nothing to do with a sore arm why people dont want the jab!! x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor. "
Actually I argue with my doctor a lot. They have called a lot of things wrong and jumped straight to medicines and procedures that they should not have. I have repeatedly discovered the hard way that meds they gave me or my kids failed us all miserably. When I then made radical changes to diet, turned to other forms of holistic healers then problems that plagued us for years “magically” disappeared. And don’t get me started on medical intervention at childbirth. Also Doctors in this country have next to no training in nutrition and certainly none in all rounded spiritual well being. So just because they have the name doctor in front of them it does not make them automatically right. Yes of course for emergencies and life threatening situations I will take their expertise. But for most other things they are now the last people I turn to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think most people call stupidity on people who don't want the vaccine but ultimately it's their choice. I have had conversations with people who are very anti-vax and while their thoughts are wild to me, if you truely believe something is a danger to you of course you aren't going to take it.
Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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"Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise."
I think we DO have a right to try and persuade them otherwise. What they are doing has a direct bearing on me and my loved ones. If your neighbour has a rubbish filled garden, wouldn't you mention it?
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"Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise.
I think we DO have a right to try and persuade them otherwise. What they are doing has a direct bearing on me and my loved ones. If your neighbour has a rubbish filled garden, wouldn't you mention it?
Gbat"
Well not really as you’ve had the vaccine so you should be protected from getting it badly. People can still carry it if they’ve had the vaccine. It just means they are more likely to get it worse. If that makes sense! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise.
I think we DO have a right to try and persuade them otherwise. What they are doing has a direct bearing on me and my loved ones. If your neighbour has a rubbish filled garden, wouldn't you mention it?
Gbat"
No actually I wouldn't, a neighbour's garden is none of my business. What people don't understand is you can try and educate people sure but if you are ultimately set in one way of thinking, it's not going to make a difference. People's fear about the vaccine is very real, if they choose not to you have to respect that. Same as they have to respect your decision to have it. |
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"Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise.
I think we DO have a right to try and persuade them otherwise. What they are doing has a direct bearing on me and my loved ones. If your neighbour has a rubbish filled garden, wouldn't you mention it?
Gbat
No actually I wouldn't, a neighbour's garden is none of my business. What people don't understand is you can try and educate people sure but if you are ultimately set in one way of thinking, it's not going to make a difference. People's fear about the vaccine is very real, if they choose not to you have to respect that. Same as they have to respect your decision to have it."
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"Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise.
I think we DO have a right to try and persuade them otherwise. What they are doing has a direct bearing on me and my loved ones. If your neighbour has a rubbish filled garden, wouldn't you mention it?
Gbat"
I think this is like any contentious issue. You probably have one go at saying what you think, then you should draw your line in the sand and leave it.
(Obviously different if in a realm - like a forum - where that's the topic, or if such discussion is solicited) |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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Well not really as you’ve had the vaccine so you should be protected from getting it badly. People can still carry it if they’ve had the vaccine. It just means they are more likely to get it worse. If that makes sense!"
But will they be clogging up all the hospital beds so that when my sick relative needs urgent care, the NHS is burned out?
Will their reluctance to have the vaccine force the Govt to introduce more lockdowns?
Will me getting it "not so badly" affect my other plans like work, holiday, social life?
Does the rubbish from their garden blow into mine or attract vermin?
No man is an island.
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"I recently got my first shot of vaccine and my friend said I'm going to die in two years and I shouldn't have gotten the vaccine.
To which I replied, you are not qualified to make that assumption and you shouldn't tell this to others as they might listen to you and not get vaccinated. Which could end in tears for some. But she won't listen so I blocked her. It was so excruciating.
Why do people do that? When you are sick, you go to a doctor, he gives you medicine and you take it. You don't argue with the doctor. "
to be fair I think you had no choice , I've got friends who are very anti vax but they know I'm pro vaccine and we just avoid the topic. Although I will send them any latest up dates when there reason for not having it maybe due to a specific fear..
However if someone told I was going to die in 2 years due to having the vaccine I would block them as there is no need for scaremongering like that |
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"Whether we agree or not, we have to accept that people have the right to choose. No one has the right for or against to try to convince them otherwise.
I think we DO have a right to try and persuade them otherwise. What they are doing has a direct bearing on me and my loved ones. If your neighbour has a rubbish filled garden, wouldn't you mention it?
Gbat"
No u really dont have a right 2! |
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