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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't like disembodied ones any more than women like isolated dick pics. Sure not everyone wants to give too much away but a closeup beaver isn't telling me much.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For me personally it is the person that makes the Fanny look good! Being sent a fanny pic without the context of the person sending it seems odd… But I would think the same about a dick pic that doesn’t show the owners face and body

You look amazing as you are and not seeing you fully naked in your profile pictures adds to the excitement and mystery

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By *ssexhamptonMan  over a year ago

Rayleigh

I am not into medical shots but each to their own.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In real life it either means you already have something going on, or she'd be open to it going on, or possibly just that she has an exhibitionist kink and it won't be going on but she likes the attention.

Strangely perhaps, the last kinda describes me and my dick. I like the thought that people, women especially, can see it, but only if they exercise the consent principle enough to want to see my friends pics. I'd never cold-open a message with it and don't generally have it on public view. If anybody's that interested they'll ask

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

At a guess I’d say each to their own, some people I imagine would like things left to the imagination and some I’m sure would like to see before hand, personally I don’t mind but I’d never ask for a picture but then I’m glad ladies don’t send pictures as freely as guys do if their genitalia lol

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

It depends of it looks like an angry axe wound or not.

Personally its only exciting to see someones genitals when there is a hint of something happening. Otherwise its just one more in a sea of thousands.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I got sent a great one yesterday, Crotchless pantyhose, she looked confident, not giving a fuck, it looked empowering.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A nice pair of legs and bum though

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By *hilloutMan  over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

I'm not particularly appreciative of fanny pictures, especially if it's several. I normally prefer the air of mystery before meeting the person.

If a woman sends me her fanny pic she defenitely is keen for some hip LEGO

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By *uenevereWoman  over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I have naked photos but consider them tasteful.

Swinging has made me realise that I have an exhibitionist side.

I suppose it is liberating to be able to express yourself freely, including close up of your genitals, if that's your thing.

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

Some are just gorgeous. It depends on the owner.

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

Guess they are a bit like dick pics? I like to see beaver and full nudes but I prefer to see full nude type pics rather than just a close up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If it was an actual picture of a beaver that would be a very different conversation

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By *ooBulMan  over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

Do women send Fanny pics on here? Yeah, right. I wish.....

I must be washing my hair when that one happens (I shave my head.)

It's like when someone on here has a shit fit with someone else. Miss that too!

I always missed people having melt downs at work when I took annual leave...

Just not fair!

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South

Men run and hide after letting out a girly scream when they see mine. All because I am hairy!

But I don’t get mine out that often, thankfully. Nobody wants to see my flappy lips nuzzled between an acre of pubic hair of a morning.

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By *ooBulMan  over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

Knowing my luck, I'd get a picture of a real beaver (building a damn wood barricade!)

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"I am not into medical shots but each to their own."

Why are they medical?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nobody wants to see my flappy lips nuzzled between an acre of pubic hair of a morning."

Never underestimate the men of fab. That probably sounds like nirvana to some

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"Men run and hide after letting out a girly scream when they see mine. All because I am hairy!

But I don’t get mine out that often, thankfully. Nobody wants to see my flappy lips nuzzled between an acre of pubic hair of a morning."

I get mine out as punishment.

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South


"Knowing my luck, I'd get a picture of a real beaver (building a damn wood barricade!) "

It’s like those men who say “wanna see my cock?” And they send you a pic of a cockerel!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like to see a nice fanny pic, as with cock pics they're better when you see a little more of the body, as for being sent pics I think I've only ever received a couple and was pleasantly happy and aroused to do so

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

I don’t show mine but everyone is different. I’m not generally a fan of seeing them but there are a couple of ladies on here who have some lovely pics and vids x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good question. Could spark off an interesting debate.

I find fanny's very interesting but its entirely up to the women who she shows or if she wants to take snap shots..what she is comfortable doing.

It wouldn't offend me in the same way as a women getting a dic pic for instance on here. I might be shocked as a first message but I'd probably make a joke

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My fanny, arsehole and nipples are reserved for people who I am going to fuck and that is usually only in person... I don't feel the need to show them to anyone else as they are not on offer to them

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By *ex HolesMan  over a year ago

Up North

Once you’ve seen one you’ve seen them all

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Once you’ve seen one you’ve seen them all "

. To be honest though it wasn’t until I joined fab I realised how different they all are!!

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By *indergirlWoman  over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public "

Yours is extremely pretty though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone is different

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love them and I'm never going to complain about receiving any - if it ever happens.

No shame here

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By *indergirlWoman  over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public

Yours is extremely pretty though "

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By *r naughty1Man  over a year ago

Bexley

I don't mind fanny pics, but find it much hotter when a woman is in sexy undies tbh

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

In my may 22nd picture you could see my fanny. Was gonna post it as it was but got scared and stuck a heart emoji on it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my may 22nd picture you could see my fanny. Was gonna post it as it was but got scared and stuck a heart emoji on it "

That was your best pic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hi, if a woman sends a photo of her fanny to me, I feel like a sexual giant, lol, it's a total turn on the thought that you or whoever

Wants me to see her pussy makes me feel horned up instantly, can't explain why, it just does, and I love seeing pussies they are so beautiful to look at, in fact I can get a hardon without any touching my cock, visually only xxxx what about dick pictures do you get turned on looking at them, xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In my may 22nd picture you could see my fanny. Was gonna post it as it was but got scared and stuck a heart emoji on it

That was your best pic "

Really? I like my current profile pic, love that top, it’s from pretty little thing if anyone’s interested!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my may 22nd picture you could see my fanny. Was gonna post it as it was but got scared and stuck a heart emoji on it

That was your best pic

Really? I like my current profile pic, love that top, it’s from pretty little thing if anyone’s interested! "

It's very cute and the smile is the thing that tops it off

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By *ooBulMan  over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

Phwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

I love it when a woman has a hairy growler... it's so 70's/80's porn. I'm overcome with the vapours - I go all giddy. I drop to my knees like James Brown & "Please Don't Go".I have to be helped. The cloak is on I've got to go,I go, I come back, I go, I come back. See link for reference:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vruy2GRUsV8

Oh, and before I forget the labia that looks like beef Szechuan. If you don't dig me I give you a link for reference point:-

https://carlsbadcravings.com/szechuan-beef/

Now seriously, I gotta go food shopping. You ladies are corrupting me!

Gotta fondle some Kumquats in the supermarket!

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By *orace pinkerMan  over a year ago

North west


"In my may 22nd picture you could see my fanny. Was gonna post it as it was but got scared and stuck a heart emoji on it "

I bloody missed that

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By *agicM53XMan  over a year ago

Orpington


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

I would definitely appreciate a picture like that if it was sent to me specifically (or even better, taken specially for me). Seeing them on the website does nothing for me really. Similar to dick pics...I will never upload one on the website, but I am happy to send them if a woman asks for it

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By *ememberTheNameMan  over a year ago

barnsley


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

I like something to look forward to unwrap when / if we meet

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

I would definitely appreciate a picture like that if it was sent to me specifically (or even better, taken specially for me). Seeing them on the website does nothing for me really. Similar to dick pics...I will never upload one on the website, but I am happy to send them if a woman asks for it"

It’s different if it’s just for you I think. But then you never really know if it was actually just for you!

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By *ynecplCouple  over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I need context shall we say. A close up fanny shot does nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Happy to show mine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Happy to show mine. "

Very nice too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

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By *agicM53XMan  over a year ago

Orpington


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

I would definitely appreciate a picture like that if it was sent to me specifically (or even better, taken specially for me). Seeing them on the website does nothing for me really. Similar to dick pics...I will never upload one on the website, but I am happy to send them if a woman asks for it

It’s different if it’s just for you I think. But then you never really know if it was actually just for you!"

I guess I would just have to take her word for it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public "

I'll use my imagination

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By *annaBeStrongMan  over a year ago

w

Nothing more off putting than a wide open and leaking vagina pic

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing. "

I like your pics (including the fanny), they're really classy

Maybe it's like a (consensual) exhibitionism thing??

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By *igtatsMan  over a year ago

gravesend

I’ll take what I can get

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By *irtydevil666Man  over a year ago

bristol

Beavers being introduced back in to the wild....including UK....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing. "

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It obviously arouses people to see and there’s much less judgment, guys are judged more on here by the size of their cock (by some, not all) and obviously are much less shy about sending it out in bulk to people, where as I think for women it’s different (again some, not all) some find it empowering and some are confident in their skin (and rightly so) some to tease and know they have the man exactly where they want them, excited and wanting more!

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple  over a year ago

Pembrokeshire


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

I used to be shy back in the day, never felt happy in my own skin, let alone show it to others... but my gorgeous Husband has given me the confidence to post away.

I have been absolutely shocked by all the positive comments I get. I will always be grateful to those who take the time to fab the photos and send me sweet messages.

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By *indergirlWoman  over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public

I'll use my imagination "

You know the saying... Don't ask and you don't get

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Swinging site.

Expect these things

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public

I'll use my imagination

You know the saying... Don't ask and you don't get "

Well I hate to letchy but ....

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By *indergirlWoman  over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"I have a couple on here but they're in the friends pics and won't go public

I'll use my imagination

You know the saying... Don't ask and you don't get

Well I hate to letchy but .... "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy. "

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Free the beaver

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By *AYENCouple  over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I adore pussy pics but seeing we are so anti dick pics we don't show any, other than in our friend's gallery.

K

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Newbie here, to the forum and to any kind of swinging!

I find the whole swapping dick pics and fanny pics a strange thing, although I get why people do and want it on a swinging site lol

I gotta say though until I started looking at profiles on here, I never realised just how sexual I found seeing a woman in some nice underwear, mostly bum, but with full legs on show aswell!

D

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip

I (Luke) don't like close-up photos of fannies. They just look to me like something out of a medical text book.

I like to see them in context. There isn't much sexier than a woman comfortable enough in her own skin to let people see her whole body (even if she keeps her face hidden).

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By *andyfloss2000Woman  over a year ago

ashford

I quite like my fanny pics x

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By *iamondCougarWoman  over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

I’m sure most Gynaecologists would appreciate them

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham

I love to see a fanny pic. Could look at them all day and never get bored.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away??

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away?? "

That’s never happened. I’ve often not seen a fanny pic in advance and I’ve never run away.

Unless it had teeth! Then I might.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Someone told her once that women's pussy were like Wimbledon tennis courts.

At the start it's lush and green, two week later every fucker has played on it.

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham


"What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away?? "

All fannys matter.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like displaying fanny pics just because so many like to look down their noses at people who do. The comments on the forum amuse me no end. So I guess I do it for my amusement. And because I can.

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away??

That’s never happened. I’ve often not seen a fanny pic in advance and I’ve never run away.

Unless it had teeth! Then I might. "

I’ve heard it’s happened to men though when a woman didn’t like what she saw. That must be horrible

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away??

That’s never happened. I’ve often not seen a fanny pic in advance and I’ve never run away.

Unless it had teeth! Then I might.

I’ve heard it’s happened to men though when a woman didn’t like what she saw. That must be horrible "

Hasn’t happened to me, but mine is beautiful

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham


"What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away??

That’s never happened. I’ve often not seen a fanny pic in advance and I’ve never run away.

Unless it had teeth! Then I might.

I’ve heard it’s happened to men though when a woman didn’t like what she saw. That must be horrible "

Some even write that on their profile! No penis mystery with me so I avoid that.

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By *ex HolesMan  over a year ago

Up North

If I had a fanny I’d let you all have a quick peek

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What if you didn't see her fanny until you met and you didn't like it. Would you run away??

That’s never happened. I’ve often not seen a fanny pic in advance and I’ve never run away.

Unless it had teeth! Then I might.

I’ve heard it’s happened to men though when a woman didn’t like what she saw. That must be horrible "

Yep I've heard this too... Far too many times I've wondered if it happens the other way around.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Suppose it’s what you’re comfortable showing. I know at least one person I work with that’s seen me on here - cos he told me.

I’m alright with my boobs being seen because I’d show them on the beach.

Wouldn’t feel comfortable with people seeing my fanny but I’ve got public face pics too so I’m recognisable.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If I know a picture has been taken and sent for my benefit, then I find that really hot. To see a picture that is there for all to see, doesnt quite have the same effect...

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"If I know a picture has been taken and sent for my benefit, then I find that really hot. To see a picture that is there for all to see, doesnt quite have the same effect..."

Yeah I get this .

PS I’ve not had a pic for a while Mr B

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly? "

Based on the fragments visible I rather doubt that

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By *otSoPoshWoman  over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly? "

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don’t show mine although it’s neat and tidy, I just don’t feel the need for everyone to see it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can’t imagine you not having a nice fanny.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If I know a picture has been taken and sent for my benefit, then I find that really hot. To see a picture that is there for all to see, doesnt quite have the same effect...

Yeah I get this .

PS I’ve not had a pic for a while Mr B "

Oh I'll need to remedy that!

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"If I know a picture has been taken and sent for my benefit, then I find that really hot. To see a picture that is there for all to see, doesnt quite have the same effect...

Yeah I get this .

PS I’ve not had a pic for a while Mr B

Oh I'll need to remedy that! "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it? "

Well exactly. It's a car wreck, a big gaping hole in the middle where he sucked my flesh out. I have to hide it, you'd all be repulsed

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land

I don't have a fear as such. But the amount of times I've seen things written to describe the frou frou it's not surprising it puts people off.

The one thing fab has massively taught me is the differences between different women which I never appreciated until now. Think in general we should stop seeing school biology text book version being the gold standard.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it?

Well exactly. It's a car wreck, a big gaping hole in the middle where he sucked my flesh out. I have to hide it, you'd all be repulsed "

I beg to differ!

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By *hilloutMan  over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it?

Well exactly. It's a car wreck, a big gaping hole in the middle where he sucked my flesh out. I have to hide it, you'd all be repulsed "

Liar, liar knickers on fire

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

In the famous words of a Chinese military tactician and philosopher sun tzu

"For as long as you care what others think, you will always be there prisoner" #freethebeaver

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

.

I prefer a nice face photo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’ve recently shown the front of mine, but not the rest of it. I’m kind of tempted to do it, because we should be able to show it without feeling judged, especially on here, but it’s a tricky subject isn’t it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it?

Well exactly. It's a car wreck, a big gaping hole in the middle where he sucked my flesh out. I have to hide it, you'd all be repulsed

I beg to differ! "

Shhhhhh, you and Chillout!

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By *otSoPoshWoman  over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it?

Well exactly. It's a car wreck, a big gaping hole in the middle where he sucked my flesh out. I have to hide it, you'd all be repulsed "

You got the nose put back in the end though, right?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’ve recently shown the front of mine, but not the rest of it. I’m kind of tempted to do it, because we should be able to show it without feeling judged, especially on here, but it’s a tricky subject isn’t it."

Half the way there

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By *ondon-guy68Man  over a year ago

London

If you’re comfortable showing it then why not really. I’m not adverse to receiving fanny shots but do prefer it to have been done with me in mind rather than just a fanny shot from the archives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy.

Lol I apologise. You've not seen my face though, maybe I'm really ugly?

I thought your face got eaten by the first guy you kissed and that's why you didn't show it?

Well exactly. It's a car wreck, a big gaping hole in the middle where he sucked my flesh out. I have to hide it, you'd all be repulsed

You got the nose put back in the end though, right? "

The doctor did an ok job, yes

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here). "

How come? X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here). "

I don’t think it particularly matters unless it’s 20 years old lol

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By *anae21Woman  over a year ago

Nearer than you think

I'd never have them as part of my public or friends only gallery.

The only time I've taken that sort of photo is for someone I'm fucking. That level of privacy suits me. I appreciate some women have truly stunning photos that are very explicit; it's just not my style.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock"

Yeah, I've no issue with guys having a few dick pics on their profile. It's sad if that's all there is because we're all rounded people with more than just our genitals to offer, but there's no harm in a guy being proud of his dick

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

fascinating

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’m afraid I’d scare everyone Annie

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By *ondon-guy68Man  over a year ago

London


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here). "

I think I meant more if you’re chatting and teasing each other so it’s more like a…jeez look what you’ve done to me kind of fanny pic. We all have the library pics and there’s nothing wrong whatsoever sharing them either in my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here). "

Theres nothing wrong either way with pictures like that. It's just nicer (IMO) to know they have been taken for my benefit.

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By *iscean_dreamMan  over a year ago

Port talbot

It's just a fanny pic, no different to a dick pic.

I like seeing some and others not so much and I've only been sent them by a handful of people on here out the blue but they were nice ones

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By *ark_KnightsMan  over a year ago

london

Not on a public profile

Although if there’s a spark and it comes too then yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For me there is two sides.

One side like to see what go's with the face.

The other side thinks dont show me I use my imagination and wait for the surprise.

Just like dicks it shouldn't need to be out to public however it's nice too to have a look at some.

As a man who enjoys giving oral it's nice to see what dessert I'll be playing with. Presentation is key hair or hairless it doesn't matter.

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By *etwifeandhim69Couple  over a year ago

Darlington

Flash it or dont flash it. It's yours to show to whoever you wish.

At the end of the day it's all down to what you are happy with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've had mine as my display pic a few times but I've hidden my profile as I don't like it being easily available for the whole world to see as it's such an intimate part of myself.

I've sent a few men pictures in the past after chatting. And there's one man on here who has seen pictures and videos of my fanny very often. And to be honest, I think I prefer it that way, as it adds to the excitement knowing it's something not everyone is lucky enough to see.

It's like cock pics. I don't mind them, but if it is something that isn't shared often and they pick me to share it with, I just find it more arousing when it does finally come down to seeing it.

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By *ark_KnightsMan  over a year ago

london


"I've had mine as my display pic a few times but I've hidden my profile as I don't like it being easily available for the whole world to see as it's such an intimate part of myself.

I've sent a few men pictures in the past after chatting. And there's one man on here who has seen pictures and videos of my fanny very often. And to be honest, I think I prefer it that way, as it adds to the excitement knowing it's something not everyone is lucky enough to see.

It's like cock pics. I don't mind them, but if it is something that isn't shared often and they pick me to share it with, I just find it more arousing when it does finally come down to seeing it.

"

So true well put

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By *hesblokeMan  over a year ago

Derbyshire village

Quite like the look of em, really

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham


"I've had mine as my display pic a few times but I've hidden my profile as I don't like it being easily available for the whole world to see as it's such an intimate part of myself.

I've sent a few men pictures in the past after chatting. And there's one man on here who has seen pictures and videos of my fanny very often. And to be honest, I think I prefer it that way, as it adds to the excitement knowing it's something not everyone is lucky enough to see.

It's like cock pics. I don't mind them, but if it is something that isn't shared often and they pick me to share it with, I just find it more arousing when it does finally come down to seeing it.

"

Those profile pic days are great days !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've had mine as my display pic a few times but I've hidden my profile as I don't like it being easily available for the whole world to see as it's such an intimate part of myself.

I've sent a few men pictures in the past after chatting. And there's one man on here who has seen pictures and videos of my fanny very often. And to be honest, I think I prefer it that way, as it adds to the excitement knowing it's something not everyone is lucky enough to see.

It's like cock pics. I don't mind them, but if it is something that isn't shared often and they pick me to share it with, I just find it more arousing when it does finally come down to seeing it.

"

This 100%

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's prettier than my face.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's prettier than my face. "

no its not. come on now

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By *heNYCSausageMan  over a year ago

Everton


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

I don’t mind seeing a picture of a foof but I much prefer a full face pic if I’m honest. Best of both worlds would be a profile with face and foof pics

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By *aughtyduo1Couple  over a year ago

Gloucester

My mrs doesn't mind at all getting her fanny out and often goes out without knickers on when she wears short skirts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also i don't see it as empowering. That's a bit pompous to me. I just like to flash it sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's prettier than my face.

no its not. come on now"

That's tongue in cheek. Now which cheek I meant. Heh.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

Real life situation I can only respond with none fab related experiences, if someone was sending me those kinda pictures and it wasn’t someone I had been dating a while, chances are Id not be interested in anything serious from them. So possibly exactly what the intentions are from sending it

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

If anyone doesn’t want to show it publicly I’m very happy to receive private messages

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By *andyBlax_XLMan  over a year ago

Mansfield

I think all man would actually

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

Like any man, I love looking at the different pussys on show. Mainly because I know I’m unlikely to see them in real life. When I’ve been dating, the first few months were of the pair of us sending pics to each other especially if we’d been apart for a few days. It builds up the excitement to when we got together.

On here I wouldn’t be against having a lady sending me pics of her muff but then it wouldn’t bother me if she didn’t, it would add to the mystery of any meet. I have dick pics on my profile, it’s not the biggest or thickest but it does it’s job when called on and I don’t have to spam loads of women with pics of it.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock"

Depends on the circumstances, I was pinned down on a primary school yard by class mates whilst another removed my knickers to see if "cuffs and collars" match. So I was massively paranoid of showing my genitalia to anyone, having a smear test was enough to make me feel anxious.

So yeah I've shown mine on here, and yeah it was empowering because it was me finally accepting my own body.

I can only imagine how those who are told their genitals resemble road kill, kebabs etc feel the same.

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By *hesblokeMan  over a year ago

Derbyshire village


"So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock

Depends on the circumstances, I was pinned down on a primary school yard by class mates whilst another removed my knickers to see if "cuffs and collars" match. So I was massively paranoid of showing my genitalia to anyone, having a smear test was enough to make me feel anxious.

So yeah I've shown mine on here, and yeah it was empowering because it was me finally accepting my own body.

I can only imagine how those who are told their genitals resemble road kill, kebabs etc feel the same.

"

No room for those kinds of comments really, is there? Everyone is different after all, and it's nice to see that everyone looks different and that's okay! Same for the fellas (can only speak for myself ofc). Glad you're able to gain a little from showing yourself off

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here).

How come? X"

Cos in my experience when you send intimate pictures to someone they put you in the ‘just a fuck’ category. It’s pathetic cos I wouldn’t care if I was sent pictures but from now on no sexy chat, no pics.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan  over a year ago

Redditch


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

Annie - you would rock any fanny. Been on my hotlist a while now and I'm still hoping x

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By *ark_KnightsMan  over a year ago

london


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here).

How come? X

Cos in my experience when you send intimate pictures to someone they put you in the ‘just a fuck’ category. It’s pathetic cos I wouldn’t care if I was sent pictures but from now on no sexy chat, no pics. "

You do what’s best for you

But defo not just a fuck category

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are some horrendous fannys on here, absolutely awful (but I hasten to add I’d never be so disrespectful as to tell someone that).

Some are beautiful and I’d be lying if I said that they didn’t lead me to exploring their profile some more and reaching out.

Personally, I think your photos are enough to attract any sane bloke up your inbox - as they did with me a few weeks back.

You are a stunner and the fact yours isn’t in view is as much as a turn-on as if it was.

X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If a man has already had his face in it, I dont mind sending him reminders I dont think I could put one on public view, wide open legged style. Im sure I have done glimpses before now though, I always feel a bit too naked though and hide it again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here).

How come? X

Cos in my experience when you send intimate pictures to someone they put you in the ‘just a fuck’ category. It’s pathetic cos I wouldn’t care if I was sent pictures but from now on no sexy chat, no pics. "

I've never thought of it like that... Sex chat = just a fuck.

Thinking about past experiences that is exactly right. Not doing that anymore!

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London

Just imagine if a stunning woman had an horrendous fanny.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its very illuminating learning about how men think

Do I white knight it and agree or try and look independent? Dilemmas.....what is most likely to me laid - oh fuck I see what you mean

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Yeah guys have a thing about being sent pics from your library and not fresh taken right now pics.

Anyhow from now on I’m not sending any pictures of myself to anyone I’m chatting to (away from here).

How come? X

Cos in my experience when you send intimate pictures to someone they put you in the ‘just a fuck’ category. It’s pathetic cos I wouldn’t care if I was sent pictures but from now on no sexy chat, no pics. "

. Sex chat puts me off anyway unless I’ve planned to meet them or have met them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

“Don’t fear the beaver”, as Blue Öyster Cult said.

Probably.

Not on a record, though.

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By *nlyfun3Woman  over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

I don't like to show what I had for breakfast

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have one or two on friends only. Not usually my thing but If I like the picture I will share it.

Not something I would ever randomly send to someone though x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am not into medical shots but each to their own."

If doctors are taking photos, I dont think thats legit!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To answer the question, I think its a bit hypocritical to encourage men to show their cocks publicly but then get all prissy about your pussy (I don't like the word fanny).

I have got pictures of mine, I like them, and sometimes put one public, mostly when I see other women getting all holier-than-thou about it. (Pun entirely intended)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just imagine if a stunning woman had an horrendous fanny."

Theres no such thing!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clearly I'm happy to show mine. I don't know if I find it empowering, perhaps I do. It's more of a 'this is me, if you don't like it, I don't care, this is my body' kinda thing.

To be honest, it's also kind of a textbook foof, everything in its place, and it's a bit greedy to have one so regular AND nipples that pointy. "

Yep, Kitty’s got one of the best looking on fab so no shame in showing it off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Prefer a bum pic but I dont mind a fanny pic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If mine was pretty I might be less reluctant to show it off.

Ultimately fair play to anyone with any public photos on the Internet. We are all being judged and some people are sadly cruel

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just imagine if a stunning woman had an horrendous fanny.

Theres no such thing!!"

I agree I like all varieties of vagina

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If mine was pretty I might be less reluctant to show it off.

Ultimately fair play to anyone with any public photos on the Internet. We are all being judged and some people are sadly cruel"

fuck those guys

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If mine was pretty I might be less reluctant to show it off.

Ultimately fair play to anyone with any public photos on the Internet. We are all being judged and some people are sadly cruel"

#freethebeaver

That's why I like the concept of nudists, the idea that we are all born equal, we all have tits an arse, and something between our legs the idea of been empowerd to bear all in the name of nature and not feel embarrassed or the need to cover up so we can buy in to an economy,or pay 1000s pounds for a label when cloth is cloth and for some reason we have it embedded into our psyche that branded clothes are worth paying for when in reality just all a farce.

I belive nudesism was first derived from the 2nd century, a following adamites professed to have regained Adam's primeval innocence. Various accounts are given of their origin. Some have thought them to have been an offshoot of the Carpocratian Gnostics, who professed a sensual mysticism and a complete emancipation from the moral law.

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By *ikeC81Man  over a year ago

harrow

For me I like seeing a fanny, but not just on its own

So if it’s a fanny with a toy in or a photo where the subject is dressed or in stockings then that catches my eye more. Depends on my mood actually

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By *agneto.Man  over a year ago

Bham


"If mine was pretty I might be less reluctant to show it off.

Ultimately fair play to anyone with any public photos on the Internet. We are all being judged and some people are sadly cruel"

It probably is pretty.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't like to show what I had for breakfast "

Quite right dear. This isn't FB.

What about showing your pussy though?

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I don't like to show what I had for breakfast

Quite right dear. This isn't FB.

What about showing your pussy though? "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock

Depends on the circumstances, I was pinned down on a primary school yard by class mates whilst another removed my knickers to see if "cuffs and collars" match. So I was massively paranoid of showing my genitalia to anyone, having a smear test was enough to make me feel anxious.

So yeah I've shown mine on here, and yeah it was empowering because it was me finally accepting my own body.

I can only imagine how those who are told their genitals resemble road kill, kebabs etc feel the same.

"

I'm more thinking about the double standards of it tbh, nobody would ever look at a cock pic. Guys are more likely to be viewed negatively.

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By *issAphroditeWoman  over a year ago

Norwich

I don't take vag pics to post on here as I like to leave something to the imagination. I don't send to established lovers either- it's just not something I do.

Don't particularly enjoy seeing them either, objectively some can be OK but I removed looking for MF couples as so many of the fanny photos looked like roadkill - splayed open, red raw and totally unappealing.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock

Depends on the circumstances, I was pinned down on a primary school yard by class mates whilst another removed my knickers to see if "cuffs and collars" match. So I was massively paranoid of showing my genitalia to anyone, having a smear test was enough to make me feel anxious.

So yeah I've shown mine on here, and yeah it was empowering because it was me finally accepting my own body.

I can only imagine how those who are told their genitals resemble road kill, kebabs etc feel the same.

I'm more thinking about the double standards of it tbh, nobody would ever look at a cock pic. Guys are more likely to be viewed negatively.

"

Ah I see I took the empowering bit and ran with that. I'm non fussed on genitalia pictures regardless of gender. To me it's a part of the body that nobody should be ashamed of.

Nobody should put another woman down by saying her genitals resemble roadkill or make derogatory comments about penis size for example. They are things people can't change. Think body acceptance and positivity has a long way to go.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love wildlife documentaries and photography.....Im also a fan of the scheme to release Beavers into the wild. Please feel free to share images of Beavers in their natural environment

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By *sm265Woman  over a year ago

Shangri-la

Not something I feel the need to post pictures of on the Internet, but if others want to then that's up to them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So when a woman shows pics of her foof it's brave and empowering?

Can guys not be described as brave and empowering then for showing their cock

Depends on the circumstances, I was pinned down on a primary school yard by class mates whilst another removed my knickers to see if "cuffs and collars" match. So I was massively paranoid of showing my genitalia to anyone, having a smear test was enough to make me feel anxious.

So yeah I've shown mine on here, and yeah it was empowering because it was me finally accepting my own body.

I can only imagine how those who are told their genitals resemble road kill, kebabs etc feel the same.

I'm more thinking about the double standards of it tbh, nobody would ever look at a cock pic. Guys are more likely to be viewed negatively.

Ah I see I took the empowering bit and ran with that. I'm non fussed on genitalia pictures regardless of gender. To me it's a part of the body that nobody should be ashamed of.

Nobody should put another woman down by saying her genitals resemble roadkill or make derogatory comments about penis size for example. They are things people can't change. Think body acceptance and positivity has a long way to go. "

No me either, each to their own but don't have the double standards

And yep, agreed that nobody should be referring to others peoples genitalia in a derogatory way, it's so unnecessary

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Completely agree with the above posts about not being nasty or cruel about peoples' bodies. We tell our children to be nice so why can't adults be kind to each other. Some of the comments are awful

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man  over a year ago

newport

Some look very nice to look at others look like the Preditor

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are some really horrible comments on here, ones that make women question themselves.

Everyone is different and beautiful in their own way, and everyone has the right to show or not show whatever they choose too, and shouldn’t be shamed or belittled for it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Some look very nice to look at others look like the Preditor"

I actually think predator is quite sexy hence why I have a portrait of him tattooed on my thigh (with his mask on though).

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man  over a year ago

newport


"Some look very nice to look at others look like the Preditor

I actually think predator is quite sexy hence why I have a portrait of him tattooed on my thigh (with his mask on though).

"

Yeah he is cool until he takes his mask off

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By *ancer36Woman  over a year ago

Stirling

Hate the word fanny but I have a few of my lady bits on my profile, I think it’s all down to how tasteful the picture is, I would never take gaping photos as that’s not to my taste. Way I see it, it’s my profile to post whichever part of my body I wish on, if someone doesn’t like it just scroll past, there’s something for everyone on here xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am not into medical shots but each to their own."

Just picturing the waiting room with vagina pics all over the place

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

Did have to check you out

Sexy body lovely boobs

But no fanny

Would like to chat in ptivate

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By *parkle1974Woman  over a year ago

Leeds

No wonder some women don't put them on their profile due to some of the disdainful comments on here. Personally I don't show mine as I don't think there is a need too but the joys of Fab allow individuals to post whatever on their profile. If they are happy to do so, then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am not into medical shots but each to their own.

Just picturing the waiting room with vagina pics all over the place "

In frames

Made me chuckle

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By *hesblokeMan  over a year ago

Derbyshire village


"I am not into medical shots but each to their own.

Just picturing the waiting room with vagina pics all over the place "

Little plaques under each one with the names on? Like in an exhibition?

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple  over a year ago

Coventry


"See lots and lots of fanny pictures on here and I just think it’s brave.

I personally couldn’t do it cos it’s my holiest of holy places.

But to the ladies, how does it feel to have those kind of pictures, is it like an empowering thing?

To the guys do you like to see fanny pictures? Also in a real life situation what do you think of a woman sends you a picture of her fanny?

"

I kind of think the opposite. I think a close up vagina shot is actually a very safe shot rationalised as a daring shot. Especially in the context of a profile that only has a vagina shot or no pictures that aren't close ups. A close up vagina shot doesn't give a lot away about its owner. For me the most daring shots are face pictures and full body shots. They expose far more about us than an image that could have been taken directly from gynecology weekly ever could.

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