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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? " No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " What does that mean? | |||
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"I think it's those who are struggling to get people to meet them who mostly complain that women and couples are picky and demanding. " Now that’s called taking something completely out of context just to be inflammatory! I didnt say picky or demanding but maybe that’s your own findings though! It’s not a complaint, just a question? Not meant as a personal attack on anyone or in the way they search for a partner. Ffs | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " Would you care to clarify what you mean by that? | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? What does that mean? " I mean so many a seem to be looking for a life partner as opposed to the name of the site…swingers being that part in question. It’s not an attack on anyone, or what they seek but purely an observation. People already seem to be taking it personally! Lol | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " So because were swingers were expected to fuck everyone who asks? 
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though." Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?  | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? What does that mean? I mean so many a seem to be looking for a life partner as opposed to the name of the site…swingers being that part in question. It’s not an attack on anyone, or what they seek but purely an observation. People already seem to be taking it personally! Lol" “But it’s a swinging site after all” comes across to me that you think our standards should be lower. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? What does that mean? I mean so many a seem to be looking for a life partner as opposed to the name of the site…swingers being that part in question. It’s not an attack on anyone, or what they seek but purely an observation. People already seem to be taking it personally! Lol" But this question gets asked all the time, usually by men who are frustrated as not getting replies to their scattergun messages and seemingly confused that women are dropping their knickers on command. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? So because were swingers were expected to fuck everyone who asks?
Thats not swinging mate "No, that’s not the point I am making at all. Of course we all have standards , well nearly all! | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? What does that mean? I mean so many a seem to be looking for a life partner as opposed to the name of the site…swingers being that part in question. It’s not an attack on anyone, or what they seek but purely an observation. People already seem to be taking it personally! Lol But this question gets asked all the time, usually by men who are frustrated as not getting replies to their scattergun messages and seemingly confused that women are dropping their knickers on command." | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? What does that mean? I mean so many a seem to be looking for a life partner as opposed to the name of the site…swingers being that part in question. It’s not an attack on anyone, or what they seek but purely an observation. People already seem to be taking it personally! Lol But this question gets asked all the time, usually by men who are frustrated as not getting replies to their scattergun messages and seemingly confused that women are dropping their knickers on command." Haha, well I apologise as I haven’t seen this raised in the forum before. I am just making conversation, not casting aspersions on anyone’s choices. | |||
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"I've often times considered this myself OP. The conclusion I've reached is that if I'm honest to myself, I believe we're all fussier than we might wish to admit. Would you really want to turn up to a last minute dot com affair from a message like (cum over now missus needs another cock) with a profile status of (Whatever u like etc) I'd rather meet with people I've built rapport with and some trust to engage in a safe and memorable meet for all. "Oh absolutely, I am totally in agreement with you. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " Swinging ? shagging anything that moves. Like any ‘hobby’ people have likes and dislikes. And some people are fussier than others. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " Honestly I just out the wants profile and keep the ones that don’t have much and honestly you get a lot of twats on this website so they probably don’t want to deal with that | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing? "As this might become a bit heated, would you clarify which bits you think are 'dating' and which bits are 'swinging'? That might help to make your observation clearer for people to comment on | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? " Well, he is a man. I thought that was general consensus. | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing? "I think couples tend to use it as a swinging site whereas singles are a bigger set of variables, that are impossible to quantify. | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?
As this might become a bit heated, would you clarify which bits you think are 'dating' and which bits are 'swinging'? That might help to make your observation clearer for people to comment on "Jeez, I dont know if I should!! They seem to be making plenty judgements all by themselves!! That’s another topic for discussion maybe, why can debate not just be debate with turning it into personal attacks and twisting it to suit own agendas? Lol | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? Well, he is a man. I thought that was general consensus. " Trust me, some really are! Whatever works for you I spose but I wouldn't want to be the "anybody"  | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?
As this might become a bit heated, would you clarify which bits you think are 'dating' and which bits are 'swinging'? That might help to make your observation clearer for people to comment on
Jeez, I dont know if I should!! They seem to be making plenty judgements all by themselves!! That’s another topic for discussion maybe, why can debate not just be debate with turning it into personal attacks and twisting it to suit own agendas? Lol"Debate requires some evidence or reasoning not just statements of opinion! And I haven't seen any personal attacks. Remember that this is a frequently raised topic, and sadly is often guys equating swinging with not being fussy. That's why I asked for the detail, it would go some way to explaining your opinion, and distancing you from the herd. | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?
As this might become a bit heated, would you clarify which bits you think are 'dating' and which bits are 'swinging'? That might help to make your observation clearer for people to comment on
Jeez, I dont know if I should!! They seem to be making plenty judgements all by themselves!! That’s another topic for discussion maybe, why can debate not just be debate with turning it into personal attacks and twisting it to suit own agendas? Lol"Maybe clarity would prevent that? | |||
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"I've often times considered this myself OP. The conclusion I've reached is that if I'm honest to myself, I believe we're all fussier than we might wish to admit. Would you really want to turn up to a last minute dot com affair from a message like (cum over now missus needs another cock) with a profile status of (Whatever u like etc) I'd rather meet with people I've built rapport with and some trust to engage in a safe and memorable meet for all.
Oh absolutely, I am totally in agreement with you." View and respect peoples' specifics as gate keepers to find what's right for them. You/I do likewise. You might only meet once a year, but it's one more meet than not being on here. | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?
I think couples tend to use it as a swinging site whereas singles are a bigger set of variables, that are impossible to quantify."For us, the swinging bit is about sexual experience you have with others outside of the standard couple dynamic. It's important for us that were both involved, even if we're not both there. A single hooking up with another single, seems more like t**der | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?
I think couples tend to use it as a swinging site whereas singles are a bigger set of variables, that are impossible to quantify."Wise words from a lovely lady. Even if she's not playing a proper chord in her guitar pose photo.  | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " I think you need to re-think your chat up mate!!! | |||
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"I just want a 13 inch glittery willy. I don't know why that's seen as such an exceptional requirement! " I didn't realise it was exceptional. I thought it was common, I've got one and most of my friends dwarf me. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " How cone you can have requiremebts but no one else can  | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " Just want to remind thd op of his opening list as his responses throughout this thread seem to be in cintrafoction yo thd point he was trying to make lol | |||
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"My standards for sex looks wise is the same as for dating. I’m not lowering my standards! " I totally agree with your comment, I feel the same way!! | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " We all have to start somewhere, with some basic requirements that we find attractive. Some will be more specific than others but ultimately it will rule out lots of people on here. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " Yes, cause the first thing a woman asks for on a dating site is a 10 inch dick, it’s usually right before ‘must like windy walks on the beach’ and ‘cosy nights in by an open fire.’ | |||
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"Most have said it but whatever I'm bored so here we go. What is a swinging site to you? What is a dating site to you? What are the differences? What is meant to happen on one and not the other? Explain why you feel such a way. Do that and then maybe you might get a discussion, instead of giving the most basic of opening statements with very little meat to them. Then you might get responses worthy of the question asked. You want a discussion, make it worthy of a discussion. " Yes, you bore me too. 
It’s meant ad a topic of debate, why can it not be left to others to reason why? Why does a topic of debate seem to be taken so personally. Ffs, some people could cause a fight in an empty house!!!
Chill out people, join in if you can without being pissy, or else move on if you don’t have anything positive to say. ? | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " Which kind of implies you think people should OP. | |||
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"As someone whose profile this is possibly aimed at - I need my mind engaged to be properly aroused. Simple as that really. There is also a lot of 'play' aspects that I very much enjoy but would only do with someone I trust - not a one off meet. Eventually I would love to meet someone I can enjoy this life with - in the mean time I will continue to choose play partners in a way I feel safe "I read a woman’s biggest organ is her brain, but seeing some of the boobs on here I dunno if that’s correct. | |||
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"As someone whose profile this is possibly aimed at - I need my mind engaged to be properly aroused. Simple as that really. There is also a lot of 'play' aspects that I very much enjoy but would only do with someone I trust - not a one off meet. Eventually I would love to meet someone I can enjoy this life with - in the mean time I will continue to choose play partners in a way I feel safe
I read a woman’s biggest organ is her brain, but seeing some of the boobs on here I dunno if that’s correct. "My boobs are definitely bigger  | |||
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"Its whatever you make of it. "So you could say its a bit like Lego? | |||
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"Its whatever you make of it.
So you could say its a bit like Lego? "I love lego!! Wanna share? | |||
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"Hopefully everyone has their own quirky ways and preferences, these individualism’s will attract a like minded soul which in turn will lead to a more complimentary sexual bonding. So I feel being stringent in the picking process is definitely beneficial. I am new on here and a single fella so the odds are stacked against me but I still would not fall into the abyss of meaningless sexual exploits. I want to swing with the type of lady I would also date. X" Welcome to the forum | |||
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"My standards for sex looks wise is the same as for dating. I’m not lowering my standards! " That's completely understandable. I myself have found my standards lean more towards higher on here than if I'm looking for a partner. Almost as if this world is a fantasy. Dating I look more in depth at personality over looks, where as on here, I seem to like looks more so than personality. In saying that either way, there has to be a physical and mental attraction for situation to work. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " It is a site based around swinging. What's your definition of that, Swinging? | |||
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"People can ask for whatever they want. They should just understand that asking isn't the same as getting. Nobody has to agree to give them what they want. They might ask for something and have to go without. That's on them. " I agree, asking doesn't mean you'll get it for sure xx | |||
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"My standards for sex looks wise is the same as for dating. I’m not lowering my standards! I totally agree with your comment, I feel the same way!!" Me too... I have to be attracted to them, physically & mentally | |||
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"I think it's those who are struggling to get people to meet them who mostly complain that women and couples are picky and demanding. " This | |||
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"I just want a 13 inch glittery willy. I don't know why that's seen as such an exceptional requirement! " Ooh glitter in your foof- that would be painful | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " Our initial thoughts are; Where's the popcorn? , Here we go again!
You should probably Google the definition of swinging, it's a swinging site, it's not a dating site, or a sex site.
If you want to meet people for sex without the 'exceptional requirements' you should probably join one of the 'fuck now' sites. If you're lucky you'll find someone to empty your balls into on there! | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " I'll tell you what I think when the rings on my finger n not before. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " Still doesn't mean that I'll personally fuck anyone offering | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " Typical single guy. Or are you single?? Swinging is not all about fucking. | |||
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"This confusion annoys me woman just want to date lol other to prude to even meet lol " Very honest and truthful status. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " I think my profile is just this side of perfect Missy x | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " Swingers don’t fuck everybody | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? Swingers don’t fuck everybody "Problem is most guys thing swingers fuck anybody!! | |||
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"It was set up as a swinging site, hence the name. People use the site in many different ways though. Yes, but do you think it’s still essentially a swinging site or going more toward a dating site? That’s basically the question I am asking, I am bot questioning people’s reasons, just if people think it’s changing?
As this might become a bit heated, would you clarify which bits you think are 'dating' and which bits are 'swinging'? That might help to make your observation clearer for people to comment on
Jeez, I dont know if I should!! They seem to be making plenty judgements all by themselves!! That’s another topic for discussion maybe, why can debate not just be debate with turning it into personal attacks and twisting it to suit own agendas? Lol"I think it could be the bit about a good swinging fuck .. that has got to people .. not the actual question | |||
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"I just want a 13 inch glittery willy. I don't know why that's seen as such an exceptional requirement! " I might buy one of these let me know if you find one hahaha | |||
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"This confusion annoys me woman just want to date lol other to prude to even meet lol " Why prude? | |||
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"This confusion annoys me woman just want to date lol other to prude to even meet lol " What confusion. Is it confusing that people get different things from being here? Seems perfectly easy to understand to me. V x | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx" And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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"My standards for sex looks wise is the same as for dating. I’m not lowering my standards! " Exactly this. | |||
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"This confusion annoys me woman just want to date lol other to prude to even meet lol " No we don't. We want sex too, but a lot of us want a connection too, and that means you need to put some effort in. | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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Thank you xx"I think it’s a pants opinion. It’s completely irrelevant to my original post as I have never once mentioned a lack of success or struggling to get a meet, whining or moaning. It was posted as there seems to be a social change within Fab that I have noticed, it seems to be changing a lot toward a more dating game. I have no problem with this, I just asked for other people’s thoughts, without it turning into a pissing match. FFS people, why do so many trolls drag it to a personal level, can’t we discuss without slurs and accusations? | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY. This is my Fantasy world. I come here to get what I would like and if thats being fussy putting requirements that is exactly what I do. This may be a swinging site but that doesn't mean to are obligated to fuck anybody because it is. If that is your perception of the site good for you. But im sure there are a lot who do not agree with you. But good luck anyway | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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I think it’s a pants opinion.
It’s completely irrelevant to my original post as I have never once mentioned a lack of success or struggling to get a meet, whining or moaning.
It was posted as there seems to be a social change within Fab that I have noticed, it seems to be changing a lot toward a more dating game.
I have no problem with this, I just asked for other people’s thoughts, without it turning into a pissing match.
FFS people, why do so many trolls drag it to a personal level, can’t we discuss without slurs and accusations?
"There are a couple of posts further up where people have asked for you to outline what you see as dating and what you see as swinging. What is the change, what has happened that has prompted the question? You've mentioned debate and discussion, but you haven't put any work in. A skim of your initial post reads like a whinge. If it isn't flesh it out a bit so people can discuss it with you. | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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I think it’s a pants opinion.
It’s completely irrelevant to my original post as I have never once mentioned a lack of success or struggling to get a meet, whining or moaning.
It was posted as there seems to be a social change within Fab that I have noticed, it seems to be changing a lot toward a more dating game.
I have no problem with this, I just asked for other people’s thoughts, without it turning into a pissing match.
FFS people, why do so many trolls drag it to a personal level, can’t we discuss without slurs and accusations?
"I'm sorry if you took exception to my comments. My intention was not to start a paissing contest. I object to your comments about trolling, slurs and accusations. Again that was not my intention and I was unaware I was trolling, etc. I unreservedly offer my apologises x | |||
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"This confusion annoys me woman just want to date lol other to prude to even meet lol " Yep... That's why nobody is meeting you! | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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I think it’s a pants opinion.
It’s completely irrelevant to my original post as I have never once mentioned a lack of success or struggling to get a meet, whining or moaning.
It was posted as there seems to be a social change within Fab that I have noticed, it seems to be changing a lot toward a more dating game.
I have no problem with this, I just asked for other people’s thoughts, without it turning into a pissing match.
FFS people, why do so many trolls drag it to a personal level, can’t we discuss without slurs and accusations?
"Exactly where did she level her opinion at you personally? Why have you chosen to take offence at a generalised opinion? When you point a finger at someone else you point three back at yourself. Perhaps take your own advice and don't take everything so personally. Your opening post was a whinge at women who you accuse of having demands that you feel don't fit with the ethos of swinging and that you feel should be more on dating sites than here. You have certain traits and physical requirements for meets. Why is it wrong for others to want a 10" dick as you quoted in your op? This isn't me 'getting personal', as you have accused so many of. This is simply Tring to clarify the discussion point you are so keen for people to debate. If the start of the debate is unclear people will ask questions of the one posing it. That's how debates and conversatoons work but you seem to think it's some sort of witch hunt and get excessively defensive (IMHO of course). Saucy.... There was absolutely no need for you to apologise. Your point was valid.....imho, again | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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I think it’s a pants opinion.
It’s completely irrelevant to my original post as I have never once mentioned a lack of success or struggling to get a meet, whining or moaning.
It was posted as there seems to be a social change within Fab that I have noticed, it seems to be changing a lot toward a more dating game.
I have no problem with this, I just asked for other people’s thoughts, without it turning into a pissing match.
FFS people, why do so many trolls drag it to a personal level, can’t we discuss without slurs and accusations?
Exactly where did she level her opinion at you personally? Why have you chosen to take offence at a generalised opinion? When you point a finger at someone else you point three back at yourself. Perhaps take your own advice and don't take everything so personally.
Your opening post was a whinge at women who you accuse of having demands that you feel don't fit with the ethos of swinging and that you feel should be more on dating sites than here.
You have certain traits and physical requirements for meets. Why is it wrong for others to want a 10" dick as you quoted in your op? This isn't me 'getting personal', as you have accused so many of. This is simply Tring to clarify the discussion point you are so keen for people to debate.
If the start of the debate is unclear people will ask questions of the one posing it. That's how debates and conversatoons work but you seem to think it's some sort of witch hunt and get excessively defensive (IMHO of course).
Saucy.... There was absolutely no need for you to apologise. Your point was valid.....imho, again "See, you cannot make your point without adding just that little thing to incite a retort! If you read my OP how can it be taken as a whinge? If you read further down the thread you will see some clarification, but no, you would rather just throw in something to cause trouble as opposed to normal and intelligent discussion!! Why can people not chat without it becoming personal? You included. | |||
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"As others have said people use this site however they wish. Yes, some are hoping to find more than a casual one off, some are looking for something a little bit more and some are looking for love. As men far out number women its inevitable that many men will have little or no success. My advice, for whats it worth, is for men who are struggling to get a meet, instead of whinging and moaning check out the profiles of more successful men and then compare it to their own and see if they can learn something. Just my opinion xx And a very good opinion … in my opinion
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I think it’s a pants opinion.
It’s completely irrelevant to my original post as I have never once mentioned a lack of success or struggling to get a meet, whining or moaning.
It was posted as there seems to be a social change within Fab that I have noticed, it seems to be changing a lot toward a more dating game.
I have no problem with this, I just asked for other people’s thoughts, without it turning into a pissing match.
FFS people, why do so many trolls drag it to a personal level, can’t we discuss without slurs and accusations?
Exactly where did she level her opinion at you personally? Why have you chosen to take offence at a generalised opinion? When you point a finger at someone else you point three back at yourself. Perhaps take your own advice and don't take everything so personally.
Your opening post was a whinge at women who you accuse of having demands that you feel don't fit with the ethos of swinging and that you feel should be more on dating sites than here.
You have certain traits and physical requirements for meets. Why is it wrong for others to want a 10" dick as you quoted in your op? This isn't me 'getting personal', as you have accused so many of. This is simply Tring to clarify the discussion point you are so keen for people to debate.
If the start of the debate is unclear people will ask questions of the one posing it. That's how debates and conversatoons work but you seem to think it's some sort of witch hunt and get excessively defensive (IMHO of course).
Saucy.... There was absolutely no need for you to apologise. Your point was valid.....imho, again
See, you cannot make your point without adding just that little thing to incite a retort! If you read my OP how can it be taken as a whinge? If you read further down the thread you will see some clarification, but no, you would rather just throw in something to cause trouble as opposed to normal and intelligent discussion!!
Why can people not chat without it becoming personal? You included.
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " I think the intention of the original owners is that the clue is in the name… But if you are looking for something else and you manage to find it then god bless you… but if you don’t then it’s not like you weren’t warned… | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
"If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours. What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult. It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended. The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez. "Can anyone on a sex site be called 'classy'?  | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
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"We are looking for friendship/play and repeat meets, cant have repeat meets without some kind of friendship and somethings in common. " | |||
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"Are you supposed to just want to shag anyone? Is this where I'm going wrong?? " Got it. That is exactly where we are going wrong going wrong. Single women and couples should fuck any guy that asks. Otherwise they moan on here!! | |||
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"It's a swinging site op. Some do find love on here, me included People can used fab however they want though, as long as its not harming anyone else " 100% as long as the two partys understand what the other is on here for then this site is what you make it. Will point out it should be discrete unless you're both openly happy to discuss it publicly. | |||
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"Are you supposed to just want to shag anyone? Is this where I'm going wrong?? " No as most of us have standards and particular attractions. Unfortunately some people think it's just a shag competition. | |||
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"I was on here for swinging and still am. I met a guy on here last year and we fell in love. I'm my wildest dreams I would never have thought that would have happened. " That’s fantastic, all the best to you both, truly. | |||
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"It is a swing site, not a sex site as far as I am concerned. So for me that means no instant fucks, a bit of getting to know the person/ couple before engaging in more. That said, that is just me, my preferences and my philosophy. If other people consider fabs something different, who am I to judge that? The main thing is that people accept that not everybody has the same ambitions and needs when using the site and to be respectful of this when contacting them. For me that includes they read my profile as I read theirs if I am interested. " | |||
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"Are you supposed to just want to shag anyone? Is this where I'm going wrong?? No as most of us have standards and particular attractions. Unfortunately some people think it's just a shag competition." Some people just think "free sex". Some people this it is a platform for married people to cheat. Nothing surprises us anymore. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez. "I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack.... | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez. "Don't you just love people looking for classy people on a free site | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack.... "Where have I mentioned a personal attack in any correspondence with you? You pull what you want from a sentence and make up the rest! Troll like if ever there was!! It seems like you would start bother in an empty house! Read the posts, all of them, then try and engage your thinking before your typo finger. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
Don't you just love people looking for classy people on a free site "The thing about a joke is you have to leave the funny bit in…… or maybe you were not intending to be funny? Did I say I was looking for classy people? No, another person that chooses to pull what they want from a sentence and twist it to suit their own agenda for whatever reason! Its mainly the fakes that use it as a free site, or the profiles that are on for about 2 days then mysteriously vanish. | |||
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"I was on here for swinging and still am. I met a guy on here last year and we fell in love. I'm my wildest dreams I would never have thought that would have happened. That’s fantastic, all the best to you both, truly. "Thank you | |||
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"It's a site that people use how they wish" Yeah you can’t pigeon hole this site in to just one category ! You can find anything on here It’s no tinder or POF that’s for sure ! | |||
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"Mainly a, sex site that's what swingers do not date but fuck" It’s a swingers site not a sex site and it’s more than just fucking! | |||
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"Neither. Although for many its considered a lack of sex site
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? " Well for me personally, I am sexually aroused by the mind and to want to feel safe with who ever I am with. Not going to meet someone who either bore me to tears or make me feel really nervous: total turn off and not gona get my juices flowing | |||
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"Mainly a, sex site that's what swingers do not date but fuck It’s a swingers site not a sex site and it’s more than just fucking!" Definitely more new members on this site sending messages like its a quick hook up site. Like meet me now and ride me bare back... jeez | |||
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"Mainly a, sex site that's what swingers do not date but fuck It’s a swingers site not a sex site and it’s more than just fucking! Definitely more new members on this site sending messages like its a quick hook up site. Like meet me now and ride me bare back... jeez "Ffs ! And you turned him down ? Ha Na I’m kidding but No wonder half these plonkers can’t get attention If that’s really the type of chat there saying to women straight off the bat actually I’m not even one bit surprised !
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"Mainly a, sex site that's what swingers do not date but fuck It’s a swingers site not a sex site and it’s more than just fucking! Definitely more new members on this site sending messages like its a quick hook up site. Like meet me now and ride me bare back... jeez
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Na I’m kidding but No wonder half these plonkers can’t get attention If that’s really the type of chat there saying to women straight off the bat actually I’m not even one bit surprised !
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"Mainly a, sex site that's what swingers do not date but fuck It’s a swingers site not a sex site and it’s more than just fucking! Definitely more new members on this site sending messages like its a quick hook up site. Like meet me now and ride me bare back... jeez
Ffs !
And you turned him down ? Ha
Na I’m kidding but No wonder half these plonkers can’t get attention If that’s really the type of chat there saying to women straight off the bat actually I’m not even one bit surprised !
This is totally what we get. Some Guys make no effort on their profile and expect sex on tap. I think they soon realise it’s not happening then get all upset with status updates!"Only the foolish bitter ones with bigger ego’s then personality that can’t take been knocked back loose there shit ! But with one liners like that how can you expect it to turn out any other way ! | |||
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"Long time since this site has been a swinging site, although there is an element of swinging still. A lot of people came to this site because, free and CAMs You only need to look how many directing rooms there are - how many chat rooms. Many people claim that people do not understand swinging and what its is - many of them don't actually understand swinging and have their own version of what they think it is. Swinging was a lifestyle, lifestyles change demographics change. Argue this is lifestyle still a lifestyle site, swinging only a very small part" At last, someone who has also noticed a change within Fab and can chat about it in a calm and intelligent manner without adding stupid untrue comments re the post. I agree with you about it this site being more a lifestyle, what was swinging is changing, maybe due to the lives we lead, or to the way the web has portrayed the swing lifestyle? I think it’s all very interesting how things have changed. Cheers. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack....
Where have I mentioned a personal attack in any correspondence with you? You pull what you want from a sentence and make up the rest! Troll like if ever there was!! It seems like you would start bother in an empty house!
Read the posts, all of them, then try and engage your thinking before your typo finger. "Where do d I say the personal attack was against me? You're the one who keeps bringing up things being taken to a personal level. Maybe you need to go and read through your responses. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack....
Where have I mentioned a personal attack in any correspondence with you? You pull what you want from a sentence and make up the rest! Troll like if ever there was!! It seems like you would start bother in an empty house!
Read the posts, all of them, then try and engage your thinking before your typo finger.
Where do d I say the personal attack was against me? You're the one who keeps bringing up things being taken to a personal level. Maybe you need to go and read through your responses. "Looks like you love stirring | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack....
Where have I mentioned a personal attack in any correspondence with you? You pull what you want from a sentence and make up the rest! Troll like if ever there was!! It seems like you would start bother in an empty house!
Read the posts, all of them, then try and engage your thinking before your typo finger.
Where do d I say the personal attack was against me? You're the one who keeps bringing up things being taken to a personal level. Maybe you need to go and read through your responses.
Looks like you love stirring "You looking in a mirror?! | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack....
Where have I mentioned a personal attack in any correspondence with you? You pull what you want from a sentence and make up the rest! Troll like if ever there was!! It seems like you would start bother in an empty house!
Read the posts, all of them, then try and engage your thinking before your typo finger.
Where do d I say the personal attack was against me? You're the one who keeps bringing up things being taken to a personal level. Maybe you need to go and read through your responses.
Looks like you love stirring
You looking in a mirror?! "What does that even mean? Stop trolling | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " I went to the butcher the other day. Bought some sausages AND some eggs and a nice sauce. | |||
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"So, you up for fucking anybody then? No, not at all, but it’s a swinging site after all. ? " Everyone has different wants and desires. Not sure why you would expect everyone to have the same standards. | |||
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"So many people seem to be putting exceptional requirements up for meets… must be this, must be that, must have this, must be able to do that, have 10 inch dicks that last all night etc etc, it seems to be more like looking for a life partner as opposed to a good swinging fuck? What do others think? This is such a whinge! Why do people have preferences for people they'd like to fuck on a swinging site?! The mind boggles
If you are able to read the further comments, read the responses that some thought has gone into, unlike yours.
What do others think, re my question is not a whinge, but I could complain about the thick and oh so pious people that are unable to reply without taking it to a personal level and try to cause insult.
It was simply a question re how I think the site has changed, maybe for the best, maybe not but no slur or complaint was ever intended.
The site is also changing in other ways, less classy people, you only have to look at some of the profile pictures to see that. Jeez.
I think you need to reconsider what you think is a personal attack....
Where have I mentioned a personal attack in any correspondence with you? You pull what you want from a sentence and make up the rest! Troll like if ever there was!! It seems like you would start bother in an empty house!
Read the posts, all of them, then try and engage your thinking before your typo finger.
Where do d I say the personal attack was against me? You're the one who keeps bringing up things being taken to a personal level. Maybe you need to go and read through your responses.
Looks like you love stirring
You looking in a mirror?!
What does that even mean? Stop trolling " | |||
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ye’s got chat this lad !
Next he’ll be slagging my ma !
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"Long time since this site has been a swinging site, although there is an element of swinging still. A lot of people came to this site because, free and CAMs You only need to look how many directing rooms there are - how many chat rooms. Many people claim that people do not understand swinging and what its is - many of them don't actually understand swinging and have their own version of what they think it is. Swinging was a lifestyle, lifestyles change demographics change. Argue this is lifestyle still a lifestyle site, swinging only a very small part At last, someone who has also noticed a change within Fab and can chat about it in a calm and intelligent manner without adding stupid untrue comments re the post. I agree with you about it this site being more a lifestyle, what was swinging is changing, maybe due to the lives we lead, or to the way the web has portrayed the swing lifestyle? I think it’s all very interesting how things have changed. Cheers. " Late to this “fun” party and not read every post! Swinging means different things to different people. As a couple to US it means finding like-minded people who we fancy (physically and mentally) to have sex with. As this involves people from outside of our relationship, we regard that as not being vanilla/normal life. So by that definition it is a form of “kink”. The change we have noticed in 15+ yrs of swinging is the increased number of singles (overwhelmingly men) who have entered “swinging” for purely casual sex reasons, often in addition to being on other well known 1-2-1 casual sex apps. A large number (possibly the majority) of these would be hard pressed to explain the difference between a Hotwife Couple, a Stag/Vixen Couple and a Cuckold Couple. Many assume that most couples fall into the Cuckold territory = big fail! The guys who do get a lock of action from Fab or the club scene are those who “get” swinging and are looking for “kink” rather than just casual sex. However, Fab is whatever you make it. If you don’t like profiles making demands, pass them by! That is your right just as it is their right to make demands! Final point - on the forums there have been a LOT of threads started in this similar topic. They are always started by men. And always by men who seem to not be having much luck. Perhaps study those men who do appear to be getting lucky! | |||
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