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Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life? |
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life? "
Nothing new.. its not just males either  |
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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life?
Nothing new.. its not just males either "
Suzi, how can you say that  |
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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life?
Nothing new.. its not just males either "
This 
I've seen women's profikes that say fab men should worship fab women.  |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
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If anything, the profiles i've seen that have most screamed "entitlement" have been from women. Men's profiles have a greater tendency to be blank or have little useful text while women's have a greater tendency of being negative and ranty. |
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life?
Nothing new.. its not just males either Suzi, how can you say that "
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"If anything, the profiles i've seen that have most screamed "entitlement" have been from women. Men's profiles have a greater tendency to be blank or have little useful text while women's have a greater tendency of being negative and ranty."
That's not entitlement, that's spelling things out in black and white for the hard of reading |
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"If anything, the profiles i've seen that have most screamed "entitlement" have been from women. Men's profiles have a greater tendency to be blank or have little useful text while women's have a greater tendency of being negative and ranty."
Some females profiles read more like War and Peace |
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life?
Nothing new.. its not just males either "
No it isn't just males. It seems to me that people will overlook entitled attitudes from women of couples. |
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"If anything, the profiles i've seen that have most screamed "entitlement" have been from women. Men's profiles have a greater tendency to be blank or have little useful text while women's have a greater tendency of being negative and ranty.
Some females profiles read more like War and Peace "
My profile tells you how it is and works well for me! I definitely don’t think I am entitled |
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"Most men's profiles I've been messaged by have very little written on them.
I don't think I've come across an entitled sounding one."
Exactly my point. Very little written on a profile, in a crowded environment, is a sense of entitlement. Why would a woman respond to an near empty profile? |
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"Most men's profiles I've been messaged by have very little written on them.
I don't think I've come across an entitled sounding one.
Exactly my point. Very little written on a profile, in a crowded environment, is a sense of entitlement. Why would a woman respond to an near empty profile? "
We don’t |
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"If anything, the profiles i've seen that have most screamed "entitlement" have been from women. Men's profiles have a greater tendency to be blank or have little useful text while women's have a greater tendency of being negative and ranty.
Some females profiles read more like War and Peace
My profile tells you how it is and works well for me! I definitely don’t think I am entitled "
Your profile is nicely written, there are some with no breaks in there and some give up reading after the first few lines. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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I have a few demands on my profile, as they are very important to my enjoyment on here.
It's not an entitlement as I don't have the right to any of them, but without them I have no desire to meet.
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life?
Nothing new.. its not just males either
I agree it's not just makes, women are just as guilty of it. My point is with just 20% of the profiles being women, why blow you chances coming across entitled to a meet?"
I think entitled is the wrong word for these profiles. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
The worst people for acting entitled are couples.
I’ve met and know some really lovely couples, I’ve also known some demanding, entitled, arrogant couples.
I could write stories about their behaviour and attitudes, in person and on fab.
Let’s go easy on guys for a while shall we? |
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"Following up another topic on the forums, regarding finding people on here you known, I did a local search with filters open. Didn't find anyone I knew but was astounded by the sense of entitlement from some men on their profile. The ratio on here must be 80% men to 20% women so it's never going to be easy, why blow your chances coming over all cocky (bit of Carry on humour there). The profiles in question must make women feel used just reading them, let alone wanting to meet the man. Maybe it's me but I imagine if you come across entitled on your profile how must women feel you would be like in real life?
Nothing new.. its not just males either
No it isn't just males. It seems to me that people will overlook entitled attitudes from women of couples."
I agree, it's not only men. Women can come across entitled knowing full well they can. With the male to female ratio on here women can do as they wish, men would still meet them. |
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"The worst people for acting entitled are couples.
I’ve met and know some really lovely couples, I’ve also known some demanding, entitled, arrogant couples.
I could write stories about their behaviour and attitudes, in person and on fab.
Let’s go easy on guys for a while shall we? "
Does seem to be a lot of man bashing going on lately. I often think wow if someone had said that about a woman!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In all honesty a bit of cockiness or a slight whiff of arrogance plus some age filters set instead of the 18-99 year old prefix would make me message that guy even more, providing he was handsome of course. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Definitely seeing some single males statutes, makes us think do you really think that's going to turn a woman on!! They seem to think your on fab which means you will fuk anyone and anyway they want |
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By *tue555Man
over a year ago
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"Oooooooooo another "entitlement' thread. - Pulls up a chair and reaches for the popcorn
You’re not entitled to sit there"
Oh I am - Its a public space therefore I am entitled and also have the right -
But I do not have the "right" to make others sit with me, although I am "entitled" to ask.
And they are "entitled" and have the "right" to refuse
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"May I ask what kinds of entitlements you're talking about?"
Some men seem to think just joining Fab will guarantee a meet. Just state the bare minimum on your profile and mark up the notches on the bedpost. Not realistic.....a sense of entitlement. |
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It could be argued that everyone is entitled to put what they want in their bios but sometimes perceived forum popularity means some think they are entitled to say what they want without repercussion. However as has already been said there is a tendency to overlook certain views or opinions based on who is expressing them.
For example a man starts a thread and gets torn to shreds while a virtually identical thread by a woman or couple is full of more tolerant replies.
The same applies to profile content. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"The worst people for acting entitled are couples.
I’ve met and know some really lovely couples, I’ve also known some demanding, entitled, arrogant couples.
I could write stories about their behaviour and attitudes, in person and on fab.
Let’s go easy on guys for a while shall we?
Does seem to be a lot of man bashing going on lately. I often think wow if someone had said that about a woman!!"
No one would ever say nasty things about a woman, they have those vaginas and stuff that guys like so much.
I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads |
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"Is entitlement the new “in” fab word? Has it replaced preference? "
Not for me.
Preference on fab in my personal opinion, means you choose the type of person you want to meet.
Entitlement to me means that you believe other people's preferences don't apply to you and that you're entitled to be treated with a certain respect that you don't apply to others. |
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But are some getting or had meets?
If someone new comes onto Fab they may look at profiles of the same gender to see what might 'work'. If they see an 'entitled' style profile that seems to 'work' - i.e. Has a reasonable amount of veris - then they may copy the 'style'. And that can end up proliferating. It will work for some and not others.
Even when someone asks for profile advice on the forum they are only getting what people on the forum would like to see on a profile.
There are thousands of people on Fab and, I would guess, most are just getting on with it. No matter what a profile is like if they are getting meets then something is working for them.
There are also other factors like accomodating, travelling, age range, first messages and sexuality.
A profile is just a single piece in the jigsaw puzzle of Fab. |
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"The worst people for acting entitled are couples.
I’ve met and know some really lovely couples, I’ve also known some demanding, entitled, arrogant couples.
I could write stories about their behaviour and attitudes, in person and on fab.
Let’s go easy on guys for a while shall we?
Does seem to be a lot of man bashing going on lately. I often think wow if someone had said that about a woman!!
No one would ever say nasty things about a woman, they have those vaginas and stuff that guys like so much.
I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads"
Yup, trying to tear others down to build themselves up. It's pretty sad |
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"It could be argued that everyone is entitled to put what they want in their bios but sometimes perceived forum popularity means some think they are entitled to say what they want without repercussion. However as has already been said there is a tendency to overlook certain views or opinions based on who is expressing them.
For example a man starts a thread and gets torn to shreds while a virtually identical thread by a woman or couple is full of more tolerant replies.
The same applies to profile content. "
Well said. The problem is since the beginning of time men have had the urge to fuck, the younger a man is the greater the urge. Men will forgive or accept anything from a woman, as long as he can fuck her, its a natural instinct. The problems start after the deed is done  . |
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"May I ask what kinds of entitlements you're talking about?
Some men seem to think just joining Fab will guarantee a meet. Just state the bare minimum on your profile and mark up the notches on the bedpost. Not realistic.....a sense of entitlement."
I'd say that's more naivety or stupidity, akin to walking into a bar and just standing there expecting women to throw themselves at their feet...I'm pretty sure that the reality of the situation will soon dawn on them. |
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"But are some getting or had meets?
If someone new comes onto Fab they may look at profiles of the same gender to see what might 'work'. If they see an 'entitled' style profile that seems to 'work' - i.e. Has a reasonable amount of veris - then they may copy the 'style'. And that can end up proliferating. It will work for some and not others.
Even when someone asks for profile advice on the forum they are only getting what people on the forum would like to see on a profile.
There are thousands of people on Fab and, I would guess, most are just getting on with it. No matter what a profile is like if they are getting meets then something is working for them.
There are also other factors like accomodating, travelling, age range, first messages and sexuality.
A profile is just a single piece in the jigsaw puzzle of Fab."
Just be yourself as that will be who the other person will meet. |
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"But are some getting or had meets?
If someone new comes onto Fab they may look at profiles of the same gender to see what might 'work'. If they see an 'entitled' style profile that seems to 'work' - i.e. Has a reasonable amount of veris - then they may copy the 'style'. And that can end up proliferating. It will work for some and not others.
Even when someone asks for profile advice on the forum they are only getting what people on the forum would like to see on a profile.
There are thousands of people on Fab and, I would guess, most are just getting on with it. No matter what a profile is like if they are getting meets then something is working for them.
There are also other factors like accomodating, travelling, age range, first messages and sexuality.
A profile is just a single piece in the jigsaw puzzle of Fab.
Just be yourself as that will be who the other person will meet. "
Exactly but maybe being yourself is someone with a 'sense of entitlement'. |
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I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads"
While this does happen, I've seen a definite increase in posts that could be construed as misandry. |
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"The worst people for acting entitled are couples.
I’ve met and know some really lovely couples, I’ve also known some demanding, entitled, arrogant couples.
I could write stories about their behaviour and attitudes, in person and on fab.
Let’s go easy on guys for a while shall we?
Does seem to be a lot of man bashing going on lately. I often think wow if someone had said that about a woman!!
No one would ever say nasty things about a woman, they have those vaginas and stuff that guys like so much.
I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
Yup, trying to tear others down to build themselves up. It's pretty sad"
This x1000 the amount of simping is unreal. |
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"It could be argued that everyone is entitled to put what they want in their bios but sometimes perceived forum popularity means some think they are entitled to say what they want without repercussion. However as has already been said there is a tendency to overlook certain views or opinions based on who is expressing them.
For example a man starts a thread and gets torn to shreds while a virtually identical thread by a woman or couple is full of more tolerant replies.
The same applies to profile content.
Well said. The problem is since the beginning of time men have had the urge to fuck, the younger a man is the greater the urge. Men will forgive or accept anything from a woman, as long as he can fuck her, its a natural instinct. The problems start after the deed is done ."
Your reply is missing the word "some". Sex has never been a deciding factor for me regardless of age which is probably why I have as many women friends as I do men. |
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By *tue555Man
over a year ago
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"It could be argued that everyone is entitled to put what they want in their bios but sometimes perceived forum popularity means some think they are entitled to say what they want without repercussion. However as has already been said there is a tendency to overlook certain views or opinions based on who is expressing them.
For example a man starts a thread and gets torn to shreds while a virtually identical thread by a woman or couple is full of more tolerant replies.
The same applies to profile content. "
That is the ethos of FAB forums, people mostly come in to the forums for attention - they change their viewpoint depending on who they think target audience is and if it will get them closer to getting a shag. Others will use exploit this for their own advantage.
"entitlement" is just a word which has a meaning within constrains and context.
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"The worst people for acting entitled are couples.
I’ve met and know some really lovely couples, I’ve also known some demanding, entitled, arrogant couples.
I could write stories about their behaviour and attitudes, in person and on fab.
Let’s go easy on guys for a while shall we?
Does seem to be a lot of man bashing going on lately. I often think wow if someone had said that about a woman!!
No one would ever say nasty things about a woman, they have those vaginas and stuff that guys like so much.
I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
Yup, trying to tear others down to build themselves up. It's pretty sad"
Not sure if that is aimed at me but I can assure you that is not my aim. I not concerned about getting a meet, I am already catered for in that respect. I am a bit disappointed with my fellow man, I think the sense of entitlement hides arrogance and stupidity, traits women never find appealing. |
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"But are some getting or had meets?
If someone new comes onto Fab they may look at profiles of the same gender to see what might 'work'. If they see an 'entitled' style profile that seems to 'work' - i.e. Has a reasonable amount of veris - then they may copy the 'style'. And that can end up proliferating. It will work for some and not others.
Even when someone asks for profile advice on the forum they are only getting what people on the forum would like to see on a profile.
There are thousands of people on Fab and, I would guess, most are just getting on with it. No matter what a profile is like if they are getting meets then something is working for them.
There are also other factors like accomodating, travelling, age range, first messages and sexuality.
A profile is just a single piece in the jigsaw puzzle of Fab.
Just be yourself as that will be who the other person will meet.
Exactly but maybe being yourself is someone with a 'sense of entitlement'."
Not getting a meet is not the end of the world. Fab should only be part of a broader life. |
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There is a line somewhere between confidence and arrogance. Where you draw the line and how others interpret where the line is, is a tricky one.
Those with overtly arrogant profiles will still get meets as they will appeal to some. Don't concern yourselves with the "competition" as you are responsible for your own success on fab. |
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"It could be argued that everyone is entitled to put what they want in their bios but sometimes perceived forum popularity means some think they are entitled to say what they want without repercussion. However as has already been said there is a tendency to overlook certain views or opinions based on who is expressing them.
For example a man starts a thread and gets torn to shreds while a virtually identical thread by a woman or couple is full of more tolerant replies.
The same applies to profile content.
That is the ethos of FAB forums, people mostly come in to the forums for attention - they change their viewpoint depending on who they think target audience is and if it will get them closer to getting a shag. Others will use exploit this for their own advantage.
"entitlement" is just a word which has a meaning within constrains and context.
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We all like attention to some degree otherwise we wouldn't be on fab. I like being noticed and I like sex but I don't need either.
The problem is that some need both constantly and are happy to do whatever is required to achieve that.
I know of people who can't get through their day without public acknowledgement on fab and I don't just mean women. A very well known profile has asked why I don't acknowledge him on the forums and when I didn't reply he got someone else to ask me the same question. |
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By *tue555Man
over a year ago
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Yup, trying to tear others down to build themselves up. It's pretty sad"
Isn't this indicative of the society we live in accross the board.
Politics, media, tabloids.
It is easier to try and make others look worse than trying to improve yourself.
Arn't the Forums for a large part simply pissing contest - to use a term
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What's entitlement?
People are here for different reasons, some because sites like this provide the only or most important sex they get. For others it's a much smaller part of their lives - an occasional treat if the right person comes along. Expressing detailed or even rigid choices isn't necessarily entitlement, merely a reflection of that person's needs and circumstances. Women or men here who don't need or want to fuck someone different every day, week or month aren't 'entitled', they just don't want or need that. Are they 'better' than people who do need that level of frequency and variety? No. Just different.
If you don't/can't go out for meals often you'd probably like it to be exactly what you want when you finally do go. Fillet steak isn't better than turbot, it's just what you prefer and why would you accept one when the other is what you wanted and ordered? That's not an expression of entitlement it's an expression of choice and we're all entitled to it - male, female, couple or whoever.
We're talking about choosing swinging partners here, not making value judgements about people based on whether they fit certain physical criteria. We couldn't care less if our GP doesn't fit our swinging search criteria. All that matters is that he/she is pleasant and knows what they're doing. We choose not to meet smokers simply because we both hate the smell of cigarettes/smoke. That doesn't mean we believe they're second class citizens who should be locked away from society. Their choice is to smoke, our choice is not to swing with them just as they might well prefer not to meet non-smokers like us.
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
While this does happen, I've seen a definite increase in posts that could be construed as misandry. "
I can’t say that I’ve noticed an increase, not in the general scheme of things. It’s always been a pretty anti guy place. |
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I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
While this does happen, I've seen a definite increase in posts that could be construed as misandry.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed an increase, not in the general scheme of things. It’s always been a pretty anti guy place. "
I agree but sadly we are reaping the reward of 1000’s of arseholes who behave abhorrently with fancy a fuck messages then a torrent of abuse when surprisingly the lady in question isn’t won over! Whilst it’s wrong to tar all blokes with the same brush - given the ratio of decent guys on here to arseholes it’s understandable and maybe a lot of man bashing is an attempt to scare up one or two of the decent ones ? |
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I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
While this does happen, I've seen a definite increase in posts that could be construed as misandry.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed an increase, not in the general scheme of things. It’s always been a pretty anti guy place.
I agree but sadly we are reaping the reward of 1000’s of arseholes who behave abhorrently with fancy a fuck messages then a torrent of abuse when surprisingly the lady in question isn’t won over! Whilst it’s wrong to tar all blokes with the same brush - given the ratio of decent guys on here to arseholes it’s understandable and maybe a lot of man bashing is an attempt to scare up one or two of the decent ones ? "
Now I don't understand this "tar everyone with the same brush" mentality...to me, people are individual, and if they're a cockwomble, they're a cockwomble regardless of any other "box" that they happen to be in. And I wouldn't say anyone was an arsehole just because of a FAF message...they just don't approach this whole thing the way that I do, and therefore we're not compatible. |
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"If anything, the profiles i've seen that have most screamed "entitlement" have been from women. Men's profiles have a greater tendency to be blank or have little useful text while women's have a greater tendency of being negative and ranty.
Some females profiles read more like War and Peace "
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I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
While this does happen, I've seen a definite increase in posts that could be construed as misandry.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed an increase, not in the general scheme of things. It’s always been a pretty anti guy place.
I agree but sadly we are reaping the reward of 1000’s of arseholes who behave abhorrently with fancy a fuck messages then a torrent of abuse when surprisingly the lady in question isn’t won over! Whilst it’s wrong to tar all blokes with the same brush - given the ratio of decent guys on here to arseholes it’s understandable and maybe a lot of man bashing is an attempt to scare up one or two of the decent ones ?
Now I don't understand this "tar everyone with the same brush" mentality...to me, people are individual, and if they're a cockwomble, they're a cockwomble regardless of any other "box" that they happen to be in. And I wouldn't say anyone was an arsehole just because of a FAF message...they just don't approach this whole thing the way that I do, and therefore we're not compatible. "
the FAF message wasn’t the bit that makes them the arsehole I get different strokes etc but the follow up abuse definitely does. Hear so many horror stories of guys saying the most awful things because of a polite no thanks. It isn’t just guys either I once politely declined a lady and then received a ton of messages about how shallow I was - so the way they message wasn’t my issue as such but their reaction to the rejection. |
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"May I ask what kinds of entitlements you're talking about?"
I think he's talking about the guys with big diks that think that's all every women on here must want and as long as they have one why shouldn't they get a meet off anyone they message pml you know the same kind that say age is just a number or thats a shame when told no lol |
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By *aitonelMan
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I often think that the majority of ‘man bashing’ threads are other guys trying to show that they’re not like other guys. So they’re not man bashing, they’re ‘look at me’ threads
While this does happen, I've seen a definite increase in posts that could be construed as misandry.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed an increase, not in the general scheme of things. It’s always been a pretty anti guy place.
I agree but sadly we are reaping the reward of 1000’s of arseholes who behave abhorrently with fancy a fuck messages then a torrent of abuse when surprisingly the lady in question isn’t won over! Whilst it’s wrong to tar all blokes with the same brush - given the ratio of decent guys on here to arseholes it’s understandable and maybe a lot of man bashing is an attempt to scare up one or two of the decent ones ?
Now I don't understand this "tar everyone with the same brush" mentality...to me, people are individual, and if they're a cockwomble, they're a cockwomble regardless of any other "box" that they happen to be in. And I wouldn't say anyone was an arsehole just because of a FAF message...they just don't approach this whole thing the way that I do, and therefore we're not compatible. "
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