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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ? |
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over a year ago
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"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?"
All old money has ties to colonial Britain. We people seem to forget is that it was companies who colonised the world not the British royal family |
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"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?
All old money has ties to colonial Britain. We people seem to forget is that it was companies who colonised the world not the British royal family"
The East India Company started out in 1599 as "Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading into the East Indies", with a Royal Charter from QE1. Although the "front" was a private venture, it could not have been achieved without Royal support, funding etc. The same would be the case for other private companies that took control of various areas of the world. |
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over a year ago
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If true....so what?
In other news....Report just in ....that there are lots of rooms in the Uk without a portrait of the Queen and owners have no plans to get one. |
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"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?"
You realise we dont live in North Korea thomas? |
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"If true....so what?
In other news....Report just in ....that there are lots of rooms in the Uk without a portrait of the Queen and owners have no plans to get one."
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"If true....so what?
In other news....Report just in ....that there are lots of rooms in the Uk without a portrait of the Queen and owners have no plans to get one."
OP likes to report the news, but I've not read this in today's Daily Rag! 
PS: we don't have a pic of the Queen in this room... |
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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago
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"Doesn't matter.
It's their room, they can do what they want with it.
Correct. If they decide to replace it with a 10 foot dick pick, that's up to them"
I think the portrait of Andrew is already in the study |
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The right wing attempts to stir up outrage and fight culture wars are getting even more pathetic.
People can have what pictures they want up. End of story. Absolutely embarrassing that government ministers are commenting on this. |
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"The right wing attempts to stir up outrage and fight culture wars are getting even more pathetic.
People can have what pictures they want up. End of story. Absolutely embarrassing that government ministers are commenting on this. "
You have got to wonder why they are consistently promoting this 'culture war? |
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"If true....so what?
In other news....Report just in ....that there are lots of rooms in the Uk without a portrait of the Queen and owners have no plans to get one.
OP likes to report the news, but I've not read this in today's Daily Rag!
PS: we don't have a pic of the Queen in this room..."
I have just bought a lovely one off eBay for a steal. I just need to drive to Oxford to collect it. |
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"If true....so what?
In other news....Report just in ....that there are lots of rooms in the Uk without a portrait of the Queen and owners have no plans to get one.
OP likes to report the news, but I've not read this in today's Daily Rag!
PS: we don't have a pic of the Queen in this room...
I have just bought a lovely one off eBay for a steal. I just need to drive to Oxford to collect it. "
Sounds splendid |
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By *entenTeaCouple
over a year ago
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people"
Fully agree with you. We don't want a violent end to the monarchy. Just let Liz be the last one. Let the rest keep a couple of estates and hand whats left to the National Trust. |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?"
History is an odd memetic.
Remove it and we have nothing to learn from, especially the mistakes. |
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"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?
History is an odd memetic.
Remove it and we have nothing to learn from, especially the mistakes."
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Don`t these students dig world trade. It has it`s good points and bad points, learning from them is what going to college is all about or is it to get pissed, doped up and vomit and fall asleep in someone front garden. |
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"Don`t these students dig world trade. It has it`s good points and bad points, learning from them is what going to college is all about or is it to get pissed, doped up and vomit and fall asleep in someone front garden."
University even. |
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As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen! |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
Well said |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said "
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
What they said |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people
Fully agree with you. We don't want a violent end to the monarchy. Just let Liz be the last one. Let the rest keep a couple of estates and hand whats left to the National Trust. "
I think all the Royal estates and assets should be returned with the exception of Kensington Palaace (a residential building).
I think we are too far away from the French Revolution for a violent overthrow (but we should have followed the lead of the French in the 18th century).
We also need to rid the country of the aristocracy too. They are a blight on the country |
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By *ragsterMan
over a year ago
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different. |
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people
Fully agree with you. We don't want a violent end to the monarchy. Just let Liz be the last one. Let the rest keep a couple of estates and hand whats left to the National Trust.
I think all the Royal estates and assets should be returned with the exception of Kensington Palaace (a residential building).
I think we are too far away from the French Revolution for a violent overthrow (but we should have followed the lead of the French in the 18th century).
We also need to rid the country of the aristocracy too. They are a blight on the country"
Revolutions don't really work. The top lot get toppled to be replaced by a new top lot and those at the bottom usually stay there.
The French didn't just have one revolution and once those forces are unleashed you don't know how it will play out.
The only real succesful revolution was the American one. |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
Yep god bless em
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/02/buckingham-palace-banned-ethnic-minorities-from-office-roles-papers-reveal |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different."
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people
Fully agree with you. We don't want a violent end to the monarchy. Just let Liz be the last one. Let the rest keep a couple of estates and hand whats left to the National Trust.
I think all the Royal estates and assets should be returned with the exception of Kensington Palaace (a residential building).
I think we are too far away from the French Revolution for a violent overthrow (but we should have followed the lead of the French in the 18th century).
We also need to rid the country of the aristocracy too. They are a blight on the country
Revolutions don't really work. The top lot get toppled to be replaced by a new top lot and those at the bottom usually stay there.
The French didn't just have one revolution and once those forces are unleashed you don't know how it will play out.
The only real succesful revolution was the American one."
And look how that's turned out..... |
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By *ragsterMan
over a year ago
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
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Yes 'woke'...
The silent hard working majority of this great country who just crack on with life, taking the rough with the smooth and like to enjoy life and not take themselves too seriously are sick to death of this new generation of 'let's be offended at everything'
Worse thing is the british boring small minded media are giving it so much air time thinking the majority are in support of it...
As per usual it's the noisy minority of minorities who just demonstrate and demonstrate and demonstrate and moan with no real substance to their argument and unable to listen to another persons view.
My teenage son has a life ahead of him constantly walking on eggshells afraid he'll upset someone by purely breathing..
Jeez...welcome to the sterile, humour free zone UK.
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
Yes 'woke'...
The silent hard working majority of this great country who just crack on with life, taking the rough with the smooth and like to enjoy life and not take themselves too seriously are sick to death of this new generation of 'let's be offended at everything'
Worse thing is the british boring small minded media are giving it so much air time thinking the majority are in support of it...
As per usual it's the noisy minority of minorities who just demonstrate and demonstrate and demonstrate and moan with no real substance to their argument and unable to listen to another persons view.
My teenage son has a life ahead of him constantly walking on eggshells afraid he'll upset someone by purely breathing..
Jeez...welcome to the sterile, humour free zone UK.
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Maybe the students would just like a say on who they have up on their wall? |
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Reading it in the news this morning it sounds rather like they’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
Current students inherit communal area (within their private university residence) with photo of queen.
Current students take a mature approach to discuss as a group whether they want it up.
Consensus reached and photo removed!
This is basically the same as renting a flat where the previous occupant had a queen photo up and deciding it’s not for you and taking it down. Right? |
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"Reading it in the news this morning it sounds rather like they’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
Current students inherit communal area (within their private university residence) with photo of queen.
Current students take a mature approach to discuss as a group whether they want it up.
Consensus reached and photo removed!
This is basically the same as renting a flat where the previous occupant had a queen photo up and deciding it’s not for you and taking it down. Right?"
And that constitutes news now apparently?
Can I take a wild stab in the dark at what paper it is in? |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
 . Well said.
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"I read it in the guardian, but no doubt there would be more inflammatory reporting of this ‘story’ in the tabloids "
Yep
Apparently the education secretary has slammed the decision calling it absurd. |
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By *entenTeaCouple
over a year ago
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
Yes 'woke'...
The silent hard working majority of this great country who just crack on with life, taking the rough with the smooth and like to enjoy life and not take themselves too seriously are sick to death of this new generation of 'let's be offended at everything'
Worse thing is the british boring small minded media are giving it so much air time thinking the majority are in support of it...
As per usual it's the noisy minority of minorities who just demonstrate and demonstrate and demonstrate and moan with no real substance to their argument and unable to listen to another persons view.
My teenage son has a life ahead of him constantly walking on eggshells afraid he'll upset someone by purely breathing..
Jeez...welcome to the sterile, humour free zone UK.
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You say humour free but I found your diatribe hilarious |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
Yes 'woke'...
The silent hard working majority of this great country who just crack on with life, taking the rough with the smooth and like to enjoy life and not take themselves too seriously are sick to death of this new generation of 'let's be offended at everything'
Worse thing is the british boring small minded media are giving it so much air time thinking the majority are in support of it...
As per usual it's the noisy minority of minorities who just demonstrate and demonstrate and demonstrate and moan with no real substance to their argument and unable to listen to another persons view.
My teenage son has a life ahead of him constantly walking on eggshells afraid he'll upset someone by purely breathing..
Jeez...welcome to the sterile, humour free zone UK.
You say humour free but I found your diatribe hilarious"
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
Yes 'woke'...
The silent hard working majority of this great country who just crack on with life, taking the rough with the smooth and like to enjoy life and not take themselves too seriously are sick to death of this new generation of 'let's be offended at everything'
Worse thing is the british boring small minded media are giving it so much air time thinking the majority are in support of it...
As per usual it's the noisy minority of minorities who just demonstrate and demonstrate and demonstrate and moan with no real substance to their argument and unable to listen to another persons view.
My teenage son has a life ahead of him constantly walking on eggshells afraid he'll upset someone by purely breathing..
Jeez...welcome to the sterile, humour free zone UK.
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From the views in your post - Im not surprised your son is walking on eggshells and afraid he will upset someone  |
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By *ragsterMan
over a year ago
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
Yes 'woke'...
The silent hard working majority of this great country who just crack on with life, taking the rough with the smooth and like to enjoy life and not take themselves too seriously are sick to death of this new generation of 'let's be offended at everything'
Worse thing is the british boring small minded media are giving it so much air time thinking the majority are in support of it...
As per usual it's the noisy minority of minorities who just demonstrate and demonstrate and demonstrate and moan with no real substance to their argument and unable to listen to another persons view.
My teenage son has a life ahead of him constantly walking on eggshells afraid he'll upset someone by purely breathing..
Jeez...welcome to the sterile, humour free zone UK.
From the views in your post - Im not surprised your son is walking on eggshells and afraid he will upset someone "
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"I don’t see a problem as they’ve done it the proper way not mindlessly defaced it.
I do hope they replace it with the bohemian rhapsody 4 face image though 
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Diane Abbot would be a better choice. Give a few Daily Mail readers heart attacks. |
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"I don’t see a problem as they’ve done it the proper way not mindlessly defaced it.
I do hope they replace it with the bohemian rhapsody 4 face image though
Diane Abbot would be a better choice. Give a few Daily Mail readers heart attacks. "
Or the girl tennis player scratching her arse |
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem? "
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though… |
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"Gmnt..we believe in freedom of speech and thought.
Students..we want to take down a picture of the queen
Gmnt.
Not like that."
Freedom of speech! Unless you mildly disrespect the Queen or the flag or Churchill, or suggest that Britain isn't absolutely brilliant and the Empire wasn't great |
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Good on them !! and quite pathetic that the person who is meant to be our "Education minister" doesn't get more angry or upset about the measly £50 or less allocated to the average child to "Catch up" due to his own government's cock ups ?? but the politics of distraction strike again meanwhile in other news Iraq is hotting up again !!!  |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future. "
Maybe for you! My pay have gone up multiple times, and the process to be legal was super easy and free. In case of need I can still spend years outside of England and I don't lose my rights.
By the way my employer has voted for brexit and is a Conservative. He gave me a job during brexit and I only got support, respect and friendship from them. Most people didn't vote for brexit because they are xenophobic. It's a mix of multiple reasons.
Plus I can almost guarantee you if they do a "brexit" referendum in Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few others, they will vote to leave.
But I guess that for people that never migrated, or visit multiple countries in a way that you get to see the reality and not only the beautiful tourist sides you will think that Europe is a paradise at the moment. Far from the truth...
I don't have have a political affiliation but I can tell you that most of the xenophobia that I have encountered is coming from younger people that mostly lean to the left. That love to treat us like we can't defend ourselves, we will never succeed because of the "sistem", and sometimes only want to be out friends because we are a token. It's sad but is at least our reality...
Most people that have treated us with respect like we are normal citizens and help us to succeed were older people, plus we live in a area that the majority voted for brexit and we never been attacked. I play my country's music very loud, I have a flag and I speak my native language in the streets, never had a issue.... But if I told everything that happened to me while living in the super "progressive" London you will not believe the abuse that I received.
Yes I do agree that is still some work to do to be even better. That will always be the case. But you have no idea how England is a great country for most of us foreig, is a reason why millions of us made it our new home. With brexit the only difference it that you need to follow a set of rules but you are still welcome in the country by the same people that welcome the previous migrants. Plus believe me is not a easy decision to migrate, due to Covid we haven't seen or family or touch our soil for two years. That makes us cry because we do love our nation. That's why is so hard to see you hating your own country in such a horrible way. Because what I mostly see here, the news and pubs is not structured criticism is pure self hate.
Like I said be happy and less negative.
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
"If true....so what?
In other news....Report just in ....that there are lots of rooms in the Uk without a portrait of the Queen and owners have no plans to get one.
OP likes to report the news, but I've not read this in today's Daily Rag!
PS: we don't have a pic of the Queen in this room..."
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
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" Good on them !! and quite pathetic that the person who is meant to be our "Education minister" doesn't get more angry or upset about the measly £50 or less allocated to the average child to "Catch up" due to his own government's cock ups ?? but the politics of distraction strike again meanwhile in other news Iraq is hotting up again !!! "
Yep, more notable news:
Court finding against the government regarding FOI requests.
Court finding against Gove giving contracts to his mates.
Not a lot of shouting about these real issues. |
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Just love people's grasp on reality/history ?? and all this Flag waving/shagging doesn't change a thing really ?? or even reality ?? and the phrase ...Storm in a teacup what's next ?? as they try to start some kind of culture war ?? the students are the new " The Enemy Within" or is it the " Teachers/Doctors/Nurses/GP'S " hard to keep track on WHO or even WHOM we are supposed to "Hate/Blame" as only a short while ago it was some bloke called "Harry and his misses" and irony being the only who has disrespected/insulted the Queen by lying to her face was ( convicted in our highest court as well ) was.........King Alex/Boris our dear leader !!! |
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise. "
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
"
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future.
Maybe for you! My pay have gone up multiple times, and the process to be legal was super easy and free. In case of need I can still spend years outside of England and I don't lose my rights.
By the way my employer has voted for brexit and is a Conservative. He gave me a job during brexit and I only got support, respect and friendship from them. Most people didn't vote for brexit because they are xenophobic. It's a mix of multiple reasons.
Plus I can almost guarantee you if they do a "brexit" referendum in Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few others, they will vote to leave.
But I guess that for people that never migrated, or visit multiple countries in a way that you get to see the reality and not only the beautiful tourist sides you will think that Europe is a paradise at the moment. Far from the truth...
I don't have have a political affiliation but I can tell you that most of the xenophobia that I have encountered is coming from younger people that mostly lean to the left. That love to treat us like we can't defend ourselves, we will never succeed because of the "sistem", and sometimes only want to be out friends because we are a token. It's sad but is at least our reality...
Most people that have treated us with respect like we are normal citizens and help us to succeed were older people, plus we live in a area that the majority voted for brexit and we never been attacked. I play my country's music very loud, I have a flag and I speak my native language in the streets, never had a issue.... But if I told everything that happened to me while living in the super "progressive" London you will not believe the abuse that I received.
Yes I do agree that is still some work to do to be even better. That will always be the case. But you have no idea how England is a great country for most of us foreig, is a reason why millions of us made it our new home. With brexit the only difference it that you need to follow a set of rules but you are still welcome in the country by the same people that welcome the previous migrants. Plus believe me is not a easy decision to migrate, due to Covid we haven't seen or family or touch our soil for two years. That makes us cry because we do love our nation. That's why is so hard to see you hating your own country in such a horrible way. Because what I mostly see here, the news and pubs is not structured criticism is pure self hate.
Like I said be happy and less negative.
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise. "
^^^This, unfortunately. |
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
"
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
"
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford. |
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
"
How dare they headline in the Express and the doffers are suitable enraged |
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"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said "
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford."
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
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And my taxes are subsidising these "enlightened ones"
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
Fareham |
"Universities are turning out kids worthy of Pol Pot.
A post dripping in irony
Explain please professor..
You are saying the students are telling people what to.do?"
Er no. But I’m sure these students would happily crash us to year zero. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
(She/ her) in Sensualityland |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
Well said..
The world looks on the UK as a great place with a great history...a lot of it good..some of it questionable..but that's what history is.
Only our own muppet students who have no idea how great the UK actually is love spending their time being slowly radicalised by the lefty woke/ban everything brigade but don't have the intelligence to question it.
Jeez...lets all have a here today/gone tomorrow politician as our head of state ....don't think so ...
Why be like every other country...its good to be different.
I also find it's a good indicator when someone uses the word 'woke'in a post
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
And my taxes are subsidising these "enlightened ones"
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"Universities are turning out kids worthy of Pol Pot.
A post dripping in irony
Explain please professor..
You are saying the students are telling people what to.do?
Er no. But I’m sure these students would happily crash us to year zero."
Having a vote to take down a portrait of an hereditary monarch amounts to a cultural revolution?
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
And my taxes are subsidising these "enlightened ones"
"
Are they?
Do you believe that paying taxes entitles you to control the actions of a private citizen or that I gives you the right to decry actions?
I pay taxes, can I tell you how to drive on the roads that I subsidise or what you can post on the internet, seeing as how the government built the infrastructure?
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
And my taxes are subsidising these "enlightened ones"
Are they?
Do you believe that paying taxes entitles you to control the actions of a private citizen or that I gives you the right to decry actions?
I pay taxes, can I tell you how to drive on the roads that I subsidise or what you can post on the internet, seeing as how the government built the infrastructure?
"
Im quite happy for my taxes to towards an unelected monarch live a life of luxury but I'm totally furious they are going towards young people receiving a decent education. |
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
"
Slightly false equivalence.
This was an internal meeting, where a group of people discussed what they were going to do in their personal space.
The meeting was not held on social media, nor was the meeting intended for public consumption.
That someone leaked it to a right wing news outlet, to create precisely this sort of furore is hardly the fault of the people present at the meeting.
I would assume the original minutes were not anonymous. |
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
And my taxes are subsidising these "enlightened ones"
I thought we had tuition fees in this country?"
We do, but they don't cover the cost of all courses. Some types of course receive Government or NHS subsidy, mainly in Science, Engineering and healthcare/medical. |
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Given how pc things have got I am not going to comment incase something comes back in ten years time to bite me in the arse.
But what I will say she is our Queen and years ago that would have been treason. |
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Don't they know that the university system in this country largely came about during Oliver Cromwell's time and a finer supporter of the royal family you couldn't hope to find. I don't know what they teach these kids in history these days |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
Perfectly stated.
Though were I British, i'd be a republican and not a monarchist. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?
All old money has ties to colonial Britain. We people seem to forget is that it was companies who colonised the world not the British royal family"
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"When they visit the cashmachine then get legless for a fiver at the Student Uni bar, whose face is on that plastic note?
By the way, I am a not a fan of the royals."
Does it matter? Anyway, it's all gone cashless, so they're more likely to get out their phone for ApplePay or Google Wallet |
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over a year ago
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people"
I agree, I think that the Royals have been invisible during Brexit and Covid. If Charles or William want to be King, they should think right now what kind of dictatorship that they’ll be rubber stamping as mere figureheads, unless they really want to do something for the benefit of the U.K right now |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future.
Maybe for you! My pay have gone up multiple times, and the process to be legal was super easy and free. In case of need I can still spend years outside of England and I don't lose my rights.
By the way my employer has voted for brexit and is a Conservative. He gave me a job during brexit and I only got support, respect and friendship from them. Most people didn't vote for brexit because they are xenophobic. It's a mix of multiple reasons.
Plus I can almost guarantee you if they do a "brexit" referendum in Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few others, they will vote to leave.
But I guess that for people that never migrated, or visit multiple countries in a way that you get to see the reality and not only the beautiful tourist sides you will think that Europe is a paradise at the moment. Far from the truth...
I don't have have a political affiliation but I can tell you that most of the xenophobia that I have encountered is coming from younger people that mostly lean to the left. That love to treat us like we can't defend ourselves, we will never succeed because of the "sistem", and sometimes only want to be out friends because we are a token. It's sad but is at least our reality...
Most people that have treated us with respect like we are normal citizens and help us to succeed were older people, plus we live in a area that the majority voted for brexit and we never been attacked. I play my country's music very loud, I have a flag and I speak my native language in the streets, never had a issue.... But if I told everything that happened to me while living in the super "progressive" London you will not believe the abuse that I received.
Yes I do agree that is still some work to do to be even better. That will always be the case. But you have no idea how England is a great country for most of us foreig, is a reason why millions of us made it our new home. With brexit the only difference it that you need to follow a set of rules but you are still welcome in the country by the same people that welcome the previous migrants. Plus believe me is not a easy decision to migrate, due to Covid we haven't seen or family or touch our soil for two years. That makes us cry because we do love our nation. That's why is so hard to see you hating your own country in such a horrible way. Because what I mostly see here, the news and pubs is not structured criticism is pure self hate.
Like I said be happy and less negative.
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I completely agree with this. Being a foreigner and having lived and worked in the UK; England, Wales and Scotland I have nothing but good things to say about the Union in general. I've always been treated well and never received comments or sidelong glances for not having an Anglo-Saxon name. I worked in a number of areas that voted for Brexit and can also say xenophobia had very little to nothing to do with it.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future.
Maybe for you! My pay have gone up multiple times, and the process to be legal was super easy and free. In case of need I can still spend years outside of England and I don't lose my rights.
By the way my employer has voted for brexit and is a Conservative. He gave me a job during brexit and I only got support, respect and friendship from them. Most people didn't vote for brexit because they are xenophobic. It's a mix of multiple reasons.
Plus I can almost guarantee you if they do a "brexit" referendum in Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few others, they will vote to leave.
But I guess that for people that never migrated, or visit multiple countries in a way that you get to see the reality and not only the beautiful tourist sides you will think that Europe is a paradise at the moment. Far from the truth...
I don't have have a political affiliation but I can tell you that most of the xenophobia that I have encountered is coming from younger people that mostly lean to the left. That love to treat us like we can't defend ourselves, we will never succeed because of the "sistem", and sometimes only want to be out friends because we are a token. It's sad but is at least our reality...
Most people that have treated us with respect like we are normal citizens and help us to succeed were older people, plus we live in a area that the majority voted for brexit and we never been attacked. I play my country's music very loud, I have a flag and I speak my native language in the streets, never had a issue.... But if I told everything that happened to me while living in the super "progressive" London you will not believe the abuse that I received.
Yes I do agree that is still some work to do to be even better. That will always be the case. But you have no idea how England is a great country for most of us foreig, is a reason why millions of us made it our new home. With brexit the only difference it that you need to follow a set of rules but you are still welcome in the country by the same people that welcome the previous migrants. Plus believe me is not a easy decision to migrate, due to Covid we haven't seen or family or touch our soil for two years. That makes us cry because we do love our nation. That's why is so hard to see you hating your own country in such a horrible way. Because what I mostly see here, the news and pubs is not structured criticism is pure self hate.
Like I said be happy and less negative.
I completely agree with this. Being a foreigner and having lived and worked in the UK; England, Wales and Scotland I have nothing but good things to say about the Union in general. I've always been treated well and never received comments or sidelong glances for not having an Anglo-Saxon name. I worked in a number of areas that voted for Brexit and can also say xenophobia had very little to nothing to do with it.
A country where a growing percentage of its population only sees negative in its history has no future. "
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future.
Maybe for you! My pay have gone up multiple times, and the process to be legal was super easy and free. In case of need I can still spend years outside of England and I don't lose my rights.
By the way my employer has voted for brexit and is a Conservative. He gave me a job during brexit and I only got support, respect and friendship from them. Most people didn't vote for brexit because they are xenophobic. It's a mix of multiple reasons.
Plus I can almost guarantee you if they do a "brexit" referendum in Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few others, they will vote to leave.
But I guess that for people that never migrated, or visit multiple countries in a way that you get to see the reality and not only the beautiful tourist sides you will think that Europe is a paradise at the moment. Far from the truth...
I don't have have a political affiliation but I can tell you that most of the xenophobia that I have encountered is coming from younger people that mostly lean to the left. That love to treat us like we can't defend ourselves, we will never succeed because of the "sistem", and sometimes only want to be out friends because we are a token. It's sad but is at least our reality...
Most people that have treated us with respect like we are normal citizens and help us to succeed were older people, plus we live in a area that the majority voted for brexit and we never been attacked. I play my country's music very loud, I have a flag and I speak my native language in the streets, never had a issue.... But if I told everything that happened to me while living in the super "progressive" London you will not believe the abuse that I received.
Yes I do agree that is still some work to do to be even better. That will always be the case. But you have no idea how England is a great country for most of us foreig, is a reason why millions of us made it our new home. With brexit the only difference it that you need to follow a set of rules but you are still welcome in the country by the same people that welcome the previous migrants. Plus believe me is not a easy decision to migrate, due to Covid we haven't seen or family or touch our soil for two years. That makes us cry because we do love our nation. That's why is so hard to see you hating your own country in such a horrible way. Because what I mostly see here, the news and pubs is not structured criticism is pure self hate.
Like I said be happy and less negative.
I completely agree with this. Being a foreigner and having lived and worked in the UK; England, Wales and Scotland I have nothing but good things to say about the Union in general. I've always been treated well and never received comments or sidelong glances for not having an Anglo-Saxon name. I worked in a number of areas that voted for Brexit and can also say xenophobia had very little to nothing to do with it.
A country where a growing percentage of its population only sees negative in its history has no future.
Only a very small percentage see the negatives but they are very vocal. They will use any platform...even a swingers one..."
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!
It was a great country until Brexit, now we have seen an increase in right wing nationalism, odious flag shagging and prejudice. The UK we loved is fading. Sadly for us relocation is not an option. As for the monarchy they represent the mind set of living in the past. Thankfully our young folk have a better vision for the future.
Maybe for you! My pay have gone up multiple times, and the process to be legal was super easy and free. In case of need I can still spend years outside of England and I don't lose my rights.
By the way my employer has voted for brexit and is a Conservative. He gave me a job during brexit and I only got support, respect and friendship from them. Most people didn't vote for brexit because they are xenophobic. It's a mix of multiple reasons.
Plus I can almost guarantee you if they do a "brexit" referendum in Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few others, they will vote to leave.
But I guess that for people that never migrated, or visit multiple countries in a way that you get to see the reality and not only the beautiful tourist sides you will think that Europe is a paradise at the moment. Far from the truth...
I don't have have a political affiliation but I can tell you that most of the xenophobia that I have encountered is coming from younger people that mostly lean to the left. That love to treat us like we can't defend ourselves, we will never succeed because of the "sistem", and sometimes only want to be out friends because we are a token. It's sad but is at least our reality...
Most people that have treated us with respect like we are normal citizens and help us to succeed were older people, plus we live in a area that the majority voted for brexit and we never been attacked. I play my country's music very loud, I have a flag and I speak my native language in the streets, never had a issue.... But if I told everything that happened to me while living in the super "progressive" London you will not believe the abuse that I received.
Yes I do agree that is still some work to do to be even better. That will always be the case. But you have no idea how England is a great country for most of us foreig, is a reason why millions of us made it our new home. With brexit the only difference it that you need to follow a set of rules but you are still welcome in the country by the same people that welcome the previous migrants. Plus believe me is not a easy decision to migrate, due to Covid we haven't seen or family or touch our soil for two years. That makes us cry because we do love our nation. That's why is so hard to see you hating your own country in such a horrible way. Because what I mostly see here, the news and pubs is not structured criticism is pure self hate.
Like I said be happy and less negative.
I completely agree with this. Being a foreigner and having lived and worked in the UK; England, Wales and Scotland I have nothing but good things to say about the Union in general. I've always been treated well and never received comments or sidelong glances for not having an Anglo-Saxon name. I worked in a number of areas that voted for Brexit and can also say xenophobia had very little to nothing to do with it.
A country where a growing percentage of its population only sees negative in its history has no future.
Only a very small percentage see the negatives but they are very vocal. They will use any platform...even a swingers one...
Hope it remains that way. A very vocal very determined minority can wield considerable influence over the majority."
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
Craggy Island |
"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?"
And these people think Oxford university isn't tied to colonial Britain. Bunch of twisted but jobs who really need to get a life instead of preaching. |
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The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht. |
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people
I agree, I think that the Royals have been invisible during Brexit and Covid. If Charles or William want to be King, they should think right now what kind of dictatorship that they’ll be rubber stamping as mere figureheads, unless they really want to do something for the benefit of the U.K right now"
Invisible? Only if you choose not to look I guess.... |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"As a foreign in this country, is quite sad to see so many English people filled with hate for their flag, history and culture in general. I just hope that you all realise how negative that is for our society in general.
We do understand that a country as old as England have a lot of negative chapters in his history. But at the same time has done so many good thing, and probably is one of the best countries in the world for minorities and foreigners to live in.
Be happy and be less negative!
Long live the Queen!"
It’s fairly unique to England, similar to how New Yorkers view America.
I know people with kids called things like Tarquin , they will celebrate every religious festival apart from Christian ones, they hate their own culture.
The queens alright , she should exercise a bit more control have Boris thrown in the dungeons |
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"The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht. "
Try £2.83p.... 30.3M taxpayers, £85.9M grant (which comes from Crown Estate income). But I'd happily cover your share  |
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"Given how pc things have got I am not going to comment incase something comes back in ten years time to bite me in the arse.
But what I will say she is our Queen and years ago that would have been treason."
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"The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht.
Try £2.83p.... 30.3M taxpayers, £85.9M grant (which comes from Crown Estate income). But I'd happily cover your share "
Presumably you wont needing those public services?
I'd rather put Mine towards young peoples education than a family of parasites. |
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God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of. |
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over a year ago
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"It's only been there a few years.
They voted to put it there in the first place.
Democracy in action, what's the problem?
Agree.
Curious as to why the Minutes of the meeting have been anonymised though…
Having seen the anger being thrown about, seems wise.
Anger? from whom - the student body who are being represented by the Committee, the University, the media, the country?
No anger, just disbelief in their reasoning for its removal.
It's ok to stand on a principle of democracy and the right to have your say - "but I would prefer if my comments are anonymised in order to protect me from people who don't agree with me"
This seems very much at odds with what many are advocating for social media - full transparency.
Apparently "obcene and threatening" messages have been sent to the college. So that sort of anger I guess?
Apparently ...
Who said that, or have they also been anonymised.
Dinah Rose
@DinahRoseQC
President of Magdalen College, Oxford.
Have now read her statements, and supporting free speech and political debate.
"Being a student is about more than studying. It’s about exploring and debating ideas. It’s sometimes about provoking the older generation." - and it really is so much easier to provoke when comments and opinions are delivered anonymously.
Social media is the cesspit that it is for exactly this reason.
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This has been a thing since long before the internet... The same as alot of us old farts whinging about those pesky kids attempting to make their futures better by trying to change some shit stuff we are ok putting up with.. It's the way it is |
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"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of."
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity. |
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"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity. "
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"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity.
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I don't wear Union Jack underpants or stand up and take off my cap when national anthem play's.
I have never been to Buckingham palace or been to see the trouping of the colour.
I just respect the queen and our heritage.
If that makes me a sycophant in your eyes crack on. |
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"With any luck, the monarchy will be abolished within the next 10 years.
There purpose is being questioned by many young people
Fully agree with you. We don't want a violent end to the monarchy. Just let Liz be the last one. Let the rest keep a couple of estates and hand whats left to the National Trust.
I think all the Royal estates and assets should be returned with the exception of Kensington Palaace (a residential building).
I think we are too far away from the French Revolution for a violent overthrow (but we should have followed the lead of the French in the 18th century).
We also need to rid the country of the aristocracy too. They are a blight on the country"
Why, have you any idea how much money the queen brings to the county, and i have traveled the world, everywhere ive been to them the uk means the queen, and also look at how many people the royals employ, so please srop reading the daily mail, and get some real facts, there are so many people who dont understand the royals value, and i think its a shame.  |
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"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity. "
Depressing that so many uneducated people feel this way |
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"The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht.
Try £2.83p.... 30.3M taxpayers, £85.9M grant (which comes from Crown Estate income). But I'd happily cover your share
Presumably you wont needing those public services?
I'd rather put Mine towards young peoples education than a family of parasites."
they do way more good for the country than you do im afraid |
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By *tew008Man
over a year ago
edinburgh |
"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity.
Depressing that so many uneducated people feel this way"
Personally I don’t think the queen brings that much value. I see a lot of land and buildings dogged by Royale legacy. Much rather see something progressive with our scientific minds being celebrated. Creating a mascot from centuries of an oppressive class system may generate abit money and publicity but doesn’t further the nation. |
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"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity.
Depressing that so many uneducated people feel this way
Personally I don’t think the queen brings that much value. I see a lot of land and buildings dogged by Royale legacy. Much rather see something progressive with our scientific minds being celebrated. Creating a mascot from centuries of an oppressive class system may generate abit money and publicity but doesn’t further the nation."
well then you are grossly uninformed, imagine you are trying to do a deal with the middle east thats going to bring jobs to the uk, but things are not going well, drag along the queen and they are writing a cheque before your feet touch the ground, thats her value |
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"According to reports, students at an Oxford university common room have voted to remove a portrait of the queen because of her links to Colonial Britain... She is head of the commonwealth and countries are not forced to stay and many have joined...
Sense or no sense ?
All old money has ties to colonial Britain. We people seem to forget is that it was companies who colonised the world not the British royal family
The East India Company started out in 1599 as "Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading into the East Indies", with a Royal Charter from QE1. Although the "front" was a private venture, it could not have been achieved without Royal support, funding etc. The same would be the case for other private companies that took control of various areas of the world."
Agreed! God save the Queen! |
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"However the minor royals like will and kate for instance should be shot, the damage that woman and her bitch are doing to the royals is unforgivable"
Will and Kate? I thought it was the other two that are being naughty. I think the UK is lucky to have the Queen, so much better than a drab president. |
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"However the minor royals like will and kate for instance should be shot, the damage that woman and her bitch are doing to the royals is unforgivable
Will and Kate? I thought it was the other two that are being naughty. I think the UK is lucky to have the Queen, so much better than a drab president."
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By *tew008Man
over a year ago
edinburgh |
"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity.
Depressing that so many uneducated people feel this way
Personally I don’t think the queen brings that much value. I see a lot of land and buildings dogged by Royale legacy. Much rather see something progressive with our scientific minds being celebrated. Creating a mascot from centuries of an oppressive class system may generate abit money and publicity but doesn’t further the nation.
well then you are grossly uninformed, imagine you are trying to do a deal with the middle east thats going to bring jobs to the uk, but things are not going well, drag along the queen and they are writing a cheque before your feet touch the ground, thats her value"
I take it you’re referring to the unofficial dinners they have. Sure there are deals carried out but I don’t think they’re giving value to the nation as a whole. It’s another way of playing the class system by playing Royalty top trumps. |
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"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity.
Depressing that so many uneducated people feel this way
Personally I don’t think the queen brings that much value. I see a lot of land and buildings dogged by Royale legacy. Much rather see something progressive with our scientific minds being celebrated. Creating a mascot from centuries of an oppressive class system may generate abit money and publicity but doesn’t further the nation.
well then you are grossly uninformed, imagine you are trying to do a deal with the middle east thats going to bring jobs to the uk, but things are not going well, drag along the queen and they are writing a cheque before your feet touch the ground, thats her value
I take it you’re referring to the unofficial dinners they have. Sure there are deals carried out but I don’t think they’re giving value to the nation as a whole. It’s another way of playing the class system by playing Royalty top trumps."
well im terribly sorry but you are grossly missinformed, and it seems you arent the only one, i can see the end of the royal family soon, but the country would with out dought be a worse place for it, but we are all entitled to our opinions. |
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"The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht.
Try £2.83p.... 30.3M taxpayers, £85.9M grant (which comes from Crown Estate income). But I'd happily cover your share
Presumably you wont needing those public services?
I'd rather put Mine towards young peoples education than a family of parasites.
they do way more good for the country than you do im afraid"
Who?the sadly missed racist or the nonce? |
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By *tew008Man
over a year ago
edinburgh |
"God save the Queen.
I'm all for the monarchy and our heritage good or bad it's our history and it's our identity.
Take away the monarchy and we are just another faceless country with zero personality being taken over by a load of overly sensitive sycophants who pander to the shouty militants who are anti everything unless it's something they approve of.
What a depressing vision of Britain. The only thing we have going for us is a bunch of poshos in castles?
Our writers, musicians, sports teams, scientists, inventors, comedians, artists etc don't give Britain an identity and shared culture?
Yikes.
Ironic to see the word 'sycophant' mentioned, when apparently kissing the pampered collective arse of the Royal family is the only thing giving you an identity.
Depressing that so many uneducated people feel this way
Personally I don’t think the queen brings that much value. I see a lot of land and buildings dogged by Royale legacy. Much rather see something progressive with our scientific minds being celebrated. Creating a mascot from centuries of an oppressive class system may generate abit money and publicity but doesn’t further the nation.
well then you are grossly uninformed, imagine you are trying to do a deal with the middle east thats going to bring jobs to the uk, but things are not going well, drag along the queen and they are writing a cheque before your feet touch the ground, thats her value
I take it you’re referring to the unofficial dinners they have. Sure there are deals carried out but I don’t think they’re giving value to the nation as a whole. It’s another way of playing the class system by playing Royalty top trumps.
well im terribly sorry but you are grossly missinformed, and it seems you arent the only one, i can see the end of the royal family soon, but the country would with out dought be a worse place for it, but we are all entitled to our opinions."
We are
Don’t see how I am grossly misinformed? There’s nothing the royals do that isn’t achievable through other means. Aside from the sense of nostalgia. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht.
Try £2.83p.... 30.3M taxpayers, £85.9M grant (which comes from Crown Estate income). But I'd happily cover your share
Presumably you wont needing those public services?
I'd rather put Mine towards young peoples education than a family of parasites.
they do way more good for the country than you do im afraid
Who?the sadly missed racist or the nonce?"
Name names Lionel. |
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"The annual sovereign grant is £84 million this year, has gone up every year ( £31million in 2009). About £1200 of the tax each person pays goes to the royal grant.
Over this period public service workers have had pay freezes and getting another pay freeze now, austerity , bedroom tax, classes cut at schools, and £200 million has just been allocated for a new total yacht.
Try £2.83p.... 30.3M taxpayers, £85.9M grant (which comes from Crown Estate income). But I'd happily cover your share
Presumably you wont needing those public services?
I'd rather put Mine towards young peoples education than a family of parasites.
they do way more good for the country than you do im afraid
Who?the sadly missed racist or the nonce?
Name names Lionel."
I would have thought it was fairly obvious but I suppose you could take your pick from the racists. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
To put this in perspective it's a common room for students to relax so why can't they decorate and furnish it as they like. At least they voted on it and had a conversay about it instead of just ripping it down and throwing it in a skip.
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"Happy Birthday Queen Elizabeth ll.
Trooping the Colour on BBC1...
Great spectacle...nobody does it better than us.
God Save The Queen "
Fantastic display
Military music at its very finest
God Save The Queen |
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