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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Folk aren’t being told what to say do and think. See how you feel if it was your race being oppressed. The black lives movement didn’t say only black lives matter. If you can’t understand why they’re saying Black Lives Matter, you’re part of the problem | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Totally agree | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over Folk aren’t being told what to say do and think. See how you feel if it was your race being oppressed. The black lives movement didn’t say only black lives matter. If you can’t understand why they’re saying Black Lives Matter, you’re part of the problem " Indeed. The very fact that you can't see what BLM (the intent and movement, not the side people took advantage of and hid behind) means and stands for just proves that you don't believe all lives matter. Just only that all lives when it suits you matter. | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over Folk aren’t being told what to say do and think. See how you feel if it was your race being oppressed. The black lives movement didn’t say only black lives matter. If you can’t understand why they’re saying Black Lives Matter, you’re part of the problem Indeed. The very fact that you can't see what BLM (the intent and movement, not the side people took advantage of and hid behind) means and stands for just proves that you don't believe all lives matter. Just only that all lives when it suits you matter. " God damn it I took the bait! | |||
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"Popcorn ice cream and cake and drinks who wants what" Loooooool  init, can I have strawberry cheese cake pls Natalie  xx | |||
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"Popcorn ice cream and cake and drinks who wants what Loooooool init, can I have strawberry cheese cake pls Natalie xx"Yes you can one strawberry cheese cake comeing up x | |||
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"Could have saved on words and just said ‘I’m racist and boring so I’m going to start a rant at 1am’ " Nothing quite says “I can’t get a shag” like starting a racist rant at 1am on a swinging site  | |||
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"Popcorn ice cream and cake and drinks who wants what Loooooool init, can I have strawberry cheese cake pls Natalie xx
Yes you can one strawberry cheese cake comeing up x "Aww thank you xx | |||
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"Popcorn ice cream and cake and drinks who wants what Loooooool init, can I have strawberry cheese cake pls Natalie xx
Yes you can one strawberry cheese cake comeing up x
Aww thank you xx"Your welcome anytime x | |||
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"Dear OP. Whilst I understand what you are saying, it is indisputable that “all lives matter” there has been a degree of injustice in this world that was brought about by historic opinions of the value of a persons life, depending on the colour of their skin. In the 21st century it is abhorrent to all right thinking people that a persons gender or skin colour has any bearing on the way that they are treated. However, systems take longer to change than people, and so there has been a feeling that people who are defined as “black” still have a lower value. Hence “black lives matter (too)”, the movement highlights that value is not equal, and strives for that. They we are all valued equally. " https://youtu.be/t86ClLM3ZGY Speaks volumes. | |||
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"Dear OP. Whilst I understand what you are saying, it is indisputable that “all lives matter” there has been a degree of injustice in this world that was brought about by historic opinions of the value of a persons life, depending on the colour of their skin. In the 21st century it is abhorrent to all right thinking people that a persons gender or skin colour has any bearing on the way that they are treated. However, systems take longer to change than people, and so there has been a feeling that people who are defined as “black” still have a lower value. Hence “black lives matter (too)”, the movement highlights that value is not equal, and strives for that. That we are all valued equally. " Sorry I had to correct my last sentence | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over Totally agree " You agree, so are you an undercover racist too?? Don't answer that it's a rhetorical question At least you don't have to feel like you need to protest that your life matters. What you could answer if you care to, is where does it say only black lives matter ?? Xx | |||
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"Popcorn ice cream and cake and drinks who wants what" Room for 1? 0.0 | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x" I love how they answered her too xx | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx"I hate that you even had to see this shit | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx"  | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x" Even before the BLM movement so many of us understand the message. Its shocking that George Floyd's murder could mean so little to some in this day and age. And that institutional, current and historical racsim is still being questioned. | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx
I hate that you even had to see this shit "Awwww thank you lovely but that's just how the world is. As I said on a previous thread racism will never die xxxxx mwah  | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx
I hate that you even had to see this shit "It's what I love about the forums, people reveal who they are | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx
I hate that you even had to see this shit
Awwww thank you lovely but that's just how the world is. As I said on a previous thread racism will never die xxxxx mwah "It will, one day. We eradicated small pox, many other diseases have been eradicated. Rome didn’t last (strangely egalitarian), civilisations rise and fall. Don’t lose hope. It’s all Pandora managed to save. | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x" Perfectly put. Its such a shame people still feel need to post rants like the OP. | |||
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"The anology i really like is one of ap fire engine racing to put out a burning building. You wouldn't expect it to stop at a house that's not on fire to spray water on it. All of the houses matter but only one house is on fire. Of course all lives matter but is black lives that are being snuffed out by the police due crimes like walking whilst black or driving whilst black. It is why Michelle Obama worries about her daughters when they get in a car. I as a white mother would only worry about them getting in an accident. Black mothers in the states also have to worry that their child could be shot dead by a racist policeman. That is why there is a movement to stress that black lives ALSO matter. " Valid & critical points made. The sad thing is, as much as we like to say it’s majority in the states & I think we’re slowly but surely seeing it more open everywhere else. Perhaps the rise in BLM, people finally realising they have voices and they should be heard. Regardless if OP was intentionally or unintentionally being racists, a reality check, educating themselves would be the move forward | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx
I hate that you even had to see this shit
Awwww thank you lovely but that's just how the world is. As I said on a previous thread racism will never die xxxxx mwah "It may never die, (I wish it would) but neither will people supporting you | |||
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"The anology i really like is one of ap fire engine racing to put out a burning building. You wouldn't expect it to stop at a house that's not on fire to spray water on it. All of the houses matter but only one house is on fire. Of course all lives matter but is black lives that are being snuffed out by the police due crimes like walking whilst black or driving whilst black. It is why Michelle Obama worries about her daughters when they get in a car. I as a white mother would only worry about them getting in an accident. Black mothers in the states also have to worry that their child could be shot dead by a racist policeman. That is why there is a movement to stress that black lives ALSO matter. " I like that analogy, I read this a while back: If your work colleague came in and said,im upset my grandad died, would you say all grandads die ! If he said , it's my Birthday today , would you say , everyone has Birthdays ! etc etc I'm sure you get the point x | |||
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"The anology i really like is one of ap fire engine racing to put out a burning building. You wouldn't expect it to stop at a house that's not on fire to spray water on it. All of the houses matter but only one house is on fire. Of course all lives matter but is black lives that are being snuffed out by the police due crimes like walking whilst black or driving whilst black. It is why Michelle Obama worries about her daughters when they get in a car. I as a white mother would only worry about them getting in an accident. Black mothers in the states also have to worry that their child could be shot dead by a racist policeman. That is why there is a movement to stress that black lives ALSO matter. I like that analogy, I read this a while back: If your work colleague came in and said,im upset my grandad died, would you say all grandads die ! If he said , it's my Birthday today , would you say , everyone has Birthdays ! etc etc I'm sure you get the point x" All Grandads die, that made me chuckle  | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour" And yet, there we go again. The very fact that you are sick of it shows that you don't truely understand what those words mean. | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour And yet, there we go again. The very fact that you are sick of it shows that you don't truely understand what those words mean. " Some people aren't getting it unfortunately | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour" Just if GIFS was available, definitely would be the one where he’s frustrated and head banging the door/wall | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour" Maybe READ more facts, just a polite suggestion | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour Maybe READ more facts, just a polite suggestion " | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour Just if GIFS was available, definitely would be the one where he’s frustrated and head banging the door/wall "Or running into a glass door | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour Just if GIFS was available, definitely would be the one where he’s frustrated and head banging the door/wall
Or running into a glass door "Bro  | |||
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"I really must say, I'm glad I haven't had to write the rant I was going to in answer to this post. Because of the BLM movement people of all races are now having theses difficult conversations and learning from each other ! So Thank you to my white brothers and sisters for answering this post x I love how they answered her too xx
I hate that you even had to see this shit
Awwww thank you lovely but that's just how the world is. As I said on a previous thread racism will never die xxxxx mwah
It may never die, (I wish it would) but neither will people supporting you "Awww mwah thank you darling xxxx | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour" Facepalm  | |||
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"sick of the hole thing, all lives matter whatever your colour Just if GIFS was available, definitely would be the one where he’s frustrated and head banging the door/wall
Or running into a glass door
Bro " | |||
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"You know what im not even going to speak "  liar! | |||
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"Hey I read something pretty interesting the other day...... There is a direct correlation between racism and intelligence, it was just the same with homophobia too and in fact very familiar with most kinds of bigoted thinking too "This I have noticed and academics have written about | |||
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"Hey I read something pretty interesting the other day...... There is a direct correlation between racism and intelligence, it was just the same with homophobia too and in fact very familiar with most kinds of bigoted thinking too "I am not at all surprised as racism is so illogical. To judge someone on the amount of melanin in their skin is ridiculous. | |||
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"In all honesty, this thread just makes me feel really sad (and dramatically adds to our block list). " Yes sad post by OP but nice to see one friend on here and add some to my hotlist! | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist "Oh dear!! Not it really can't! | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist "Well that’s a dumb comment. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Oh dear!!
Not it really can't! "To be fair out of context it can. Unfortunately generally people who say it tend to ignore the context, or are so incredibly ignorant that they can't see the context. Once again proving why it needs to be said. 99% of the time a valid point is used as an attempt to disguise racism, or stupidity, or both. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist "Perhaps you need to look outside your self and discover...empathy, historical facts,the way the world works etc, Just a polite suggestion | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Oh dear!!
Not it really can't!
To be fair out of context it can. Unfortunately generally people who say it tend to ignore the context, or are so incredibly ignorant that they can't see the context. Once again proving why it needs to be said.
99% of the time a valid point is used as an attempt to disguise racism, or stupidity, or both. "I agree but I knew that point would probably be lost so didn't bother explaining further. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Perhaps you need to look outside your self and discover...empathy, historical facts,the way the world works etc,
Just a polite suggestion "
Again very well said. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment. " What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature "How can it? Where does it say only black lives matter. Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!! | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature ""It can be" herein lies the problem.....that was a decision you made, maybe ask yourself why you chose to see it that way ? | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature "You want to interpetate that way, if that's what was meant then that's what would be said. Just be glad you don't have to feel like a threat to the police because of the colour of your skin | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature "What is dumb, is that despite trying to act intelligent, you ignore the context behind the words and focus solely on the words themselves. You ignore the entirety of the situation in favour of focusing on things that suit your own argument. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
Give your head a wobble love.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature " | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!"I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant"Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant"Yet your brain perceives black lives matter as meaning more than whites | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant"I'm curious, do you say all lives matter on VE Day ? Or commemoration of the D Day landings and all the lives that were lost ? | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Yet your brain perceives black lives matter as meaning more than whites "Yes it did, not intially though | |||
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"Will it take a black female prime minister to settle the matter. I don't think so. There'll always be racism. I witnessed racism amongst ethnic races in farm foods last year, a black guy called an Asian woman the P word when argument broke out at the checkouts. Movements and politics and the media seem to add fuel to the fire. There are more Black and Asian broadcasters than ever before, before last year. There are more politicians of ethnic origin, there are more actors and actresses than ever before. All the kids talk like they're from the Bronx ghettos. Hip hop/rap music is the more dominant music genre. I don't see oppression, at least not the real oppression that black people had to edure 200 years ago in America. What I do see a backlash against the movement. It appears to be making a rod for it's own back. So let's have a black female prime minister and see how things turn out. " What? | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Yet your brain perceives black lives matter as meaning more than whites
Yes it did, not intially though"It did or it still does I'm confused?? | |||
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"Will it take a black female prime minister to settle the matter. I don't think so. There'll always be racism. I witnessed racism amongst ethnic races in farm foods last year, a black guy called an Asian woman the P word when argument broke out at the checkouts. Movements and politics and the media seem to add fuel to the fire. There are more Black and Asian broadcasters than ever before, before last year. There are more politicians of ethnic origin, there are more actors and actresses than ever before. All the kids talk like they're from the Bronx ghettos. Hip hop/rap music is the more dominant music genre. I don't see oppression, at least not the real oppression that black people had to edure 200 years ago in America. What I do see a backlash against the movement. It appears to be making a rod for it's own back. So let's have a black female prime minister and see how things turn out. " I see what your saying but like in USA it won't make a difference in peoples behavior, that happens over generations and as this thread has proved...requires education | |||
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"Will it take a black female prime minister to settle the matter. I don't think so. There'll always be racism. I witnessed racism amongst ethnic races in farm foods last year, a black guy called an Asian woman the P word when argument broke out at the checkouts. Movements and politics and the media seem to add fuel to the fire. There are more Black and Asian broadcasters than ever before, before last year. There are more politicians of ethnic origin, there are more actors and actresses than ever before. All the kids talk like they're from the Bronx ghettos. Hip hop/rap music is the more dominant music genre. I don't see oppression, at least not the real oppression that black people had to edure 200 years ago in America. What I do see a backlash against the movement. It appears to be making a rod for it's own back. So let's have a black female prime minister and see how things turn out. " As you have rightly said racism will always be around and the media does add fuel to the fire xx | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Your argument is flawed and your anger is misplaced. Of course all life should matter, no ones is saying they don't. You should really try to comprehend what is being said before flying into a rage. But let's go with your statement, If all lives matter as you say, why is a black life so under valued time after time? | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Yet your brain perceives black lives matter as meaning more than whites
Yes it did, not intially though"As you've not responded to me at all, I can only guess your of the opinion my voice doesn't matter in this conversation.....strange that | |||
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"I find it very interesting that people would be threatened either whole blacklivesmatter movement. Why do people feel the need to say all lives matter? I suspect its normally the same people who call others snowflakes when they are standing up for something. Its done to dismiss and shut down the discussion. " Exactly this !!!! | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message. "I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me"I'm not the only one saying it. Maybe as I said read and respond to the others who also see a problem with you said. The fact you don't see what you said as problematic speaks volumes. | |||
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"I find it very interesting that people would be threatened either whole blacklivesmatter movement. Why do people feel the need to say all lives matter? I suspect its normally the same people who call others snowflakes when they are standing up for something. Its done to dismiss and shut down the discussion. " I find it strange that they feel threatened by the movement its really bizarre xx | |||
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"I find it very interesting that people would be threatened either whole blacklivesmatter movement. Why do people feel the need to say all lives matter? I suspect its normally the same people who call others snowflakes when they are standing up for something. Its done to dismiss and shut down the discussion. I find it strange that they feel threatened by the movement its really bizarre xx" Totally agree. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me"Then you are just ignorant and lost. You are too far in to your own ideals that you are unable to see past them and the harm that is being done outside of your little bubble. You either refuse to, are just incapable of, or just straight-up trying to take the piss. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me"Why do you feel the need to say all lives matter?? You said what black lives matter could interpret which it's not so let's cut the assumptions out. Can you answer the question which is why you feel the need to say it | |||
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"I'm thinking maybe we should stop feeding the troll !! Off to bed, nite all good people x" Looool I want the thread to close looking forward to that but sleep well choco | |||
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"I'm thinking maybe we should stop feeding the troll !! Off to bed, nite all good people x" Sleep well but actually I disagree and think its a conversation worth having. The Op had a rant and buggered off at least this poster is responding in a civil way even though I very much disagree with whats being said. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me
Why do you feel the need to say all lives matter??
You said what black lives matter could interpret which it's not so let's cut the assumptions out. Can you answer the question which is why you feel the need to say it"I've answered it... I respect all life... all... every single one. Hence all lives matter to me regardles of race, creed or religion . I couldn't help the way my brain had briefly interpreted also...or maybe I tuned into the news & media too much & it possibly unfluenced my brain a little. | |||
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"I'm thinking maybe we should stop feeding the troll !! Off to bed, nite all good people x Sleep well but actually I disagree and think its a conversation worth having. The Op had a rant and buggered off at least this poster is responding in a civil way even though I very much disagree with whats being said. " Seems like she's trying to be wrong and strong though xx | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me
Why do you feel the need to say all lives matter??
You said what black lives matter could interpret which it's not so let's cut the assumptions out. Can you answer the question which is why you feel the need to say it
I've answered it... I respect all life... all... every single one. Hence all lives matter to me regardles of race, creed or religion . I couldn't help the way my brain had briefly interpreted also...or maybe I tuned into the news & media too much & it possibly unfluenced my brain a little."So if I understand what your saying is that your mind has changed from what you first said. Watching too much news is not a good thing they won't be 100% truthful xx | |||
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"(is an emotive singer, so apologies if I get something wrong here) The way I see it is this : It's a statement of fact that black lines matter. Nothing against other lines. Think of BLM as a powerfully worded 'reminder' that black lines matter, which for many years it has seemed that many didn't feel that way. It raises awareness to those who somehow didn't know that black people were often treated as if their lives didn't matter. By following it up with 'all lives matter', people are diluting that message and hiding that reminder. This doesn't help the situation. Yes, all lives do matter, but we don't need a reminder of that in the same way." exactly | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me
Why do you feel the need to say all lives matter??
You said what black lives matter could interpret which it's not so let's cut the assumptions out. Can you answer the question which is why you feel the need to say it
I've answered it... I respect all life... all... every single one. Hence all lives matter to me regardles of race, creed or religion . I couldn't help the way my brain had briefly interpreted also...or maybe I tuned into the news & media too much & it possibly unfluenced my brain a little.
So if I understand what your saying is that your mind has changed from what you first said.
Watching too much news is not a good thing they won't be 100% truthful xx"I did at one point perceive it that way many months ago...& Yes some news & media can be very harmful, fake and influential in the way we can perceive things. & Yes I am inclined to tune into too much `news` at times which as you say is not a good thing...thanks btw I totally 100% agree with you xxx | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me
Why do you feel the need to say all lives matter??
You said what black lives matter could interpret which it's not so let's cut the assumptions out. Can you answer the question which is why you feel the need to say it
I've answered it... I respect all life... all... every single one. Hence all lives matter to me regardles of race, creed or religion . I couldn't help the way my brain had briefly interpreted also...or maybe I tuned into the news & media too much & it possibly unfluenced my brain a little.
So if I understand what your saying is that your mind has changed from what you first said.
Watching too much news is not a good thing they won't be 100% truthful xx
I did at one point perceive it that way many months ago...& Yes some news & media can be very harmful, fake and influential in the way we can perceive things. & Yes I am inclined to tune into too much `news` at times which as you say is not a good thing...thanks btw I totally 100% agree with you xxx"You are welcome hun I'm pleased this thread has given you a better understanding of the movement. Hope it can for the OP tomorrow. Thank you for opening your mind and heart xxx | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
Maybe read the other comments to your post on this thread and realise actually most don't see it as harmless and the you do is why BLM is a very important message.
I don't understand what you mean... So are you saying by me saying All Lives Matter is harmful... I honestly see no harm in my sentence at all... That's my belief...every single life on this Planet matters to me
Why do you feel the need to say all lives matter??
You said what black lives matter could interpret which it's not so let's cut the assumptions out. Can you answer the question which is why you feel the need to say it
I've answered it... I respect all life... all... every single one. Hence all lives matter to me regardles of race, creed or religion . I couldn't help the way my brain had briefly interpreted also...or maybe I tuned into the news & media too much & it possibly unfluenced my brain a little.
So if I understand what your saying is that your mind has changed from what you first said.
Watching too much news is not a good thing they won't be 100% truthful xx
I did at one point perceive it that way many months ago...& Yes some news & media can be very harmful, fake and influential in the way we can perceive things. & Yes I am inclined to tune into too much `news` at times which as you say is not a good thing...thanks btw I totally 100% agree with you xxx"
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"(is an emotive singer, so apologies if I get something wrong here) The way I see it is this : It's a statement of fact that black lines matter. Nothing against other lines. Think of BLM as a powerfully worded 'reminder' that black lines matter, which for many years it has seemed that many didn't feel that way. It raises awareness to those who somehow didn't know that black people were often treated as if their lives didn't matter. By following it up with 'all lives matter', people are diluting that message and hiding that reminder. This doesn't help the situation. Yes, all lives do matter, but we don't need a reminder of that in the same way." *an emotive subject I also don't think we should jump on everyone who says 'all lives matter' and label them as racists. Some obviously are, but I feel many just don't understand the statement and need a little help. I have to admit when I first heard the term, I also thought 'but all lives matter don't they?'. This came from a place of love not hate as I honestly believe all lives matter and totally missed the point of the moment. It was only after I looked into the meaning and talked to my black mates that I realised what it was saying and why following it with 'all lives matter' was damaging. | |||
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"(is an emotive singer, so apologies if I get something wrong here) The way I see it is this : It's a statement of fact that black lines matter. Nothing against other lines. Think of BLM as a powerfully worded 'reminder' that black lines matter, which for many years it has seemed that many didn't feel that way. It raises awareness to those who somehow didn't know that black people were often treated as if their lives didn't matter. By following it up with 'all lives matter', people are diluting that message and hiding that reminder. This doesn't help the situation. Yes, all lives do matter, but we don't need a reminder of that in the same way. *an emotive subject I also don't think we should jump on everyone who says 'all lives matter' and label them as racists. Some obviously are, but I feel many just don't understand the statement and need a little help. I have to admit when I first heard the term, I also thought 'but all lives matter don't they?'. This came from a place of love not hate as I honestly believe all lives matter and totally missed the point of the moment. It was only after I looked into the meaning and talked to my black mates that I realised what it was saying and why following it with 'all lives matter' was damaging." OMG you have actually just described the way I feel & my misconstrued brief perceptions... that were partly influenced by media current affair debates | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Yes, all lives matter. The BLM movement does not dispute this in any way. White lives matter and that's not in dispute with the people their message is aimed at. The point that BLM are making is that a lot of those people think that black lives DON'T matter. It is a specific message aimed at a specific problem. Saying "All lives matter" is not in any way going to address the problem, and I cannot see any way in which it will keep racism alive. Are you going to criticise the RSPB for only wanting to protect birds? Surely all animals should be protected. Are you going to criticise the NSPCC for focusing on the protection of children? Surely everybody should be protected from cruelty. How dare these charities focus their efforts on specific issues? There really should only be one big world charity just called "Do good things". That would solve everything, wouldn't it? Focusing on a problem does not make that problem worse. Not focusing on a problem get a problem addressed adequately. The "All lives matter" response to BLM is illogical and ignorant. | |||
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"(is an emotive singer, so apologies if I get something wrong here) The way I see it is this : It's a statement of fact that black lines matter. Nothing against other lines. Think of BLM as a powerfully worded 'reminder' that black lines matter, which for many years it has seemed that many didn't feel that way. It raises awareness to those who somehow didn't know that black people were often treated as if their lives didn't matter. By following it up with 'all lives matter', people are diluting that message and hiding that reminder. This doesn't help the situation. Yes, all lives do matter, but we don't need a reminder of that in the same way. *an emotive subject I also don't think we should jump on everyone who says 'all lives matter' and label them as racists. Some obviously are, but I feel many just don't understand the statement and need a little help. I have to admit when I first heard the term, I also thought 'but all lives matter don't they?'. This came from a place of love not hate as I honestly believe all lives matter and totally missed the point of the moment. It was only after I looked into the meaning and talked to my black mates that I realised what it was saying and why following it with 'all lives matter' was damaging." | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Do you think BLM means they want a green card to do what ever they like? | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities " This Anybody that supports BLM cannot possibly have looked into what their aims really are. This is why so many of their chapter leaders are now resigning There's a lady on YT who has been trying to find out where their millions of dollars are being used. Spoiler alert - it certainly hasn't gone to any black communities or victims of police brutality | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities " A subject for a different thread perhaps? We're discussing racism here, and while classism is an important issue, discussing it here may take away from the original debate. | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist
Well that’s a dumb comment.
What's so "dumb" about it... It can be interpreted as black lives matter more than white
And as for my comment about insects... Some insects have a very important role in having a positive effect on our planet & nature
How can it?
Where does it say only black lives matter.
Also I really can't believe you felt the need to mention insects and that some can be useful in the same context as BLM!!
I'm saying All Lives Matter... I'm not using the word insects in the same context as "BLM" matter... You interpret my comment in the way your brain perceives it to be... But alot of people will see my comment is harmless... For me EVERY Single Life Matters in this our universe...be it Human, Animal or Plant
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities " A poor white kid might not have a better life than a billionaire black kid but one thing's for sure ,they would be treated differently just because of their skin colour. I'll give you a fine example about something that happened when out Shopping. I walked into a designer shop and the first thing that happened was the security guy started following me around the shop while I picked out what I wanted and at the same time a white guy who from his appearance and dress code didn't look like he had any business being in that shop was greeted at the door with a smile. Like Chris Rock once said he asked a poor white guy if he'd trade places with him for a day and be black with all the money that he has ,the White guy replied no chance in hell,I'll ride this white thing out. | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities A poor white kid might not have a better life than a billionaire black kid but one thing's for sure ,they would be treated differently just because of their skin colour. I'll give you a fine example about something that happened when out Shopping. I walked into a designer shop and the first thing that happened was the security guy started following me around the shop while I picked out what I wanted and at the same time a white guy who from his appearance and dress code didn't look like he had any business being in that shop was greeted at the door with a smile. Like Chris Rock once said he asked a poor white guy if he'd trade places with him for a day and be black with all the money that he has ,the White guy replied no chance in hell,I'll ride this white thing out." Why the example when I agreed about the race issues | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities A poor white kid might not have a better life than a billionaire black kid but one thing's for sure ,they would be treated differently just because of their skin colour. I'll give you a fine example about something that happened when out Shopping. I walked into a designer shop and the first thing that happened was the security guy started following me around the shop while I picked out what I wanted and at the same time a white guy who from his appearance and dress code didn't look like he had any business being in that shop was greeted at the door with a smile. Like Chris Rock once said he asked a poor white guy if he'd trade places with him for a day and be black with all the money that he has ,the White guy replied no chance in hell,I'll ride this white thing out." A white guy who looked like he didn't have any business being in that shop? So you made a judgement based solely on his appearance? Oh the irony | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities A subject for a different thread perhaps? We're discussing racism here, and while classism is an important issue, discussing it here may take away from the original debate. " Maybe, but I think these things are all related. Follow the money in the BLM movement and you’ll find massive donations from billionaires. I think the rich love this stuff. Keep the poor divided and arguing so they’re too busy to point a finger at the billionaires that run this planet. They love the idea of defund they police because they’ll just hire private military to protein their gated communities. And when the streets turn to shit they’ll have a reason to move towards a dictatorship where your freedoms are taken away in the name of safety. The BLM is huge. The world knows of it. Yet no one seems to care that a select few elites are running this show. They’re manipulating politics to benefit them. They’re setting things up in the background to move towards total global domination. And they’re doing a great job of keeping us divided because they know if we banded together we could do something | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities A subject for a different thread perhaps? We're discussing racism here, and while classism is an important issue, discussing it here may take away from the original debate. Maybe, but I think these things are all related. Follow the money in the BLM movement and you’ll find massive donations from billionaires. I think the rich love this stuff. Keep the poor divided and arguing so they’re too busy to point a finger at the billionaires that run this planet. They love the idea of defund they police because they’ll just hire private military to protein their gated communities. And when the streets turn to shit they’ll have a reason to move towards a dictatorship where your freedoms are taken away in the name of safety. The BLM is huge. The world knows of it. Yet no one seems to care that a select few elites are running this show. They’re manipulating politics to benefit them. They’re setting things up in the background to move towards total global domination. And they’re doing a great job of keeping us divided because they know if we banded together we could do something " That may be so, however this thread is about racism as a societal issue. If you want to discuss global elites what is the problem with starting your own thread on them? You could even open it with "off the back of the racism thread". I take your point about divide and conquer, which is why it is important to have the conversation on racism that we're having, without it being derailed, or dismissed as not as important as something else, surely? It will take us all coming together to ensure any kind of equity, for any of us. | |||
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"Totally agree with you , all lives matter and anyone who puts a colour in front of life’s matter are in fact racists, my family came over from Ireland and got the no blacks no Irish no dogs ,yet the brought me up to treat everyone equally " Yes, all lives matter. But some people believe that black lives DON'T matter. The BLM message is aimed at that attitude. What is wrong with addressing a particular issue? Adding a colour in front of lives mattering is not racist. The BLM message does not say that white lives don't matter. If it did, then I would agree with you that it's racist, but it doesn't. It's a reminder that there are issues about black lives in particular that need to be addressed. | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people " What have you seen ? | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people " You said this on another thread about race and I asked this same question. What examples of open racism against white people have you seen? (I didn't get an answer then so I'm not hopeful now) | |||
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"The biggest threat to black men comes from other black men, that's just a cold hard fact. Another major issue that nobody wants to discuss is the high percentage of absent fathers in the black community BLM and the American Democrat party seem to think that removing fathers from black homes is a good idea. It just baffles me how anybody can support that " We could argue that these situations have been created due to poor treatment of minority communities in the past though | |||
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"ALL lives matter...even that of the tiniest minute insect The statement Black Lives Matter actually can come across as racist "No it came about because the black community in the USA felt that their lives didn't matter. When they see police violence all around them, when they get followed by the security guards in every shop they go into, etc etc. Open your heart and your eyes and become an ally and let's end the hate. We will be a better planet for it. | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Regardless of who matters, I think you’re right that the BLM protests/movement has actually created more racism in many cases. People who were not at all racist are suddenly given reason to have negative feeling when they see riots and vandalism during the protests... it’s not a positive image even though it’s supposed to be. | |||
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"The biggest threat to black men comes from other black men, that's just a cold hard fact. Another major issue that nobody wants to discuss is the high percentage of absent fathers in the black community BLM and the American Democrat party seem to think that removing fathers from black homes is a good idea. It just baffles me how anybody can support that We could argue that these situations have been created due to poor treatment of minority communities in the past though " We could of course argue that and that's what I think we should be arguing. Poor communities whether white or black become the victims of themselves | |||
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"Everyone life matters im fed up of hearing about it All it going to do is even more make folk racist Folk will not put up with being told what to say do and think Folk need to have respect for all dont mean you have to have all this Black Life matter shit I want to see an end to it I matter you matter dont bloody matter what colour you are we all matter So folk give over you not being given a green card to do what every you like not matter what your colour is so folk give over" Girl Get Over Yourself!!!!! | |||
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"The biggest threat to black men comes from other black men, that's just a cold hard fact. Another major issue that nobody wants to discuss is the high percentage of absent fathers in the black community BLM and the American Democrat party seem to think that removing fathers from black homes is a good idea. It just baffles me how anybody can support that We could argue that these situations have been created due to poor treatment of minority communities in the past though We could of course argue that and that's what I think we should be arguing. Poor communities whether white or black become the victims of themselves " But it was white people that make those communities poor. Shouldn’t we help fix that issue? | |||
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"People really think that race is the big problem. And there are problems with race. But class is the issue. Do you think the elites of the world care about us? White or black? Do you think a poor white kid will have an easier life than a black kid born into a millionaire family? There are race issues, that’s true. There’s police brutality issues in the US. But the biggest issue we have is the wealth gap. Politicians are paid for and bought off. These elites follow no rules. They pull the strings in the background to benefit themselves only. They hire private police to protect their gated communities A poor white kid might not have a better life than a billionaire black kid but one thing's for sure ,they would be treated differently just because of their skin colour. I'll give you a fine example about something that happened when out Shopping. I walked into a designer shop and the first thing that happened was the security guy started following me around the shop while I picked out what I wanted and at the same time a white guy who from his appearance and dress code didn't look like he had any business being in that shop was greeted at the door with a smile. Like Chris Rock once said he asked a poor white guy if he'd trade places with him for a day and be black with all the money that he has ,the White guy replied no chance in hell,I'll ride this white thing out. A white guy who looked like he didn't have any business being in that shop? So you made a judgement based solely on his appearance? Oh the irony " See how it feels | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it!" Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee | |||
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"The biggest threat to black men comes from other black men, that's just a cold hard fact. Another major issue that nobody wants to discuss is the high percentage of absent fathers in the black community BLM and the American Democrat party seem to think that removing fathers from black homes is a good idea. It just baffles me how anybody can support that We could argue that these situations have been created due to poor treatment of minority communities in the past though We could of course argue that and that's what I think we should be arguing. Poor communities whether white or black become the victims of themselves But it was white people that make those communities poor. Shouldn’t we help fix that issue? " In line with your previous comment we should be fixing issues within all poor communities | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people You said this on another thread about race and I asked this same question. What examples of open racism against white people have you seen? (I didn't get an answer then so I'm not hopeful now) " - Coca cola asking their employees to be less white. - The white disabled kid that was torture for a full night during the BLM protests for being white. - All the images of BLM protesters forcing white people to say their slogans or force them to kneel. - A white comediant that wasn't allowed to perform on a comedy show because he had dreads. - The YouTube video from the channel Jubille that's is called "What are white people superior at?" That contains a ton of racism against white people. - All the pages on twitter about enslaving whites or the extermination of white people. For the ones that don't believe it. Just do a quick research. Do I believe that white people at the moment suffer from discrimination in a daily basis?! No. But if we allow it to continue it will get worse. By the way I don't agree one bit with the op message. Plus I do respect and support the message of the BLM movement but not the organisation. Peace and love | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people What have you seen ? Lori Lightfoot, mayor of Chicargo refusing to interact with white journalists For one day? For one to one interviews only? To highlight the fact that the press corps are in fact racially biased towards white journalists? And what was the response of the white media? To mock her natural black hair and call her names. Why should she be made to talk to people who can be so nasty about her because of her race? " Reverse the races and you’d be removed from office. But it’s ok when it’s against whites. That’s what I was taught. If you reverse the races/sex/whatever is it still acceptable? That’s what equality is. Equal for all | |||
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"The biggest threat to black men comes from other black men, that's just a cold hard fact. Another major issue that nobody wants to discuss is the high percentage of absent fathers in the black community BLM and the American Democrat party seem to think that removing fathers from black homes is a good idea. It just baffles me how anybody can support that You're special" I know I am
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"The biggest threat to black men comes from other black men, that's just a cold hard fact. Another major issue that nobody wants to discuss is the high percentage of absent fathers in the black community BLM and the American Democrat party seem to think that removing fathers from black homes is a good idea. It just baffles me how anybody can support that We could argue that these situations have been created due to poor treatment of minority communities in the past though We could of course argue that and that's what I think we should be arguing. Poor communities whether white or black become the victims of themselves But it was white people that make those communities poor. Shouldn’t we help fix that issue? In line with your previous comment we should be fixing issues within all poor communities " Probably. But we should acknowledge that the reason many minorities face hardships today was because of hardcore racism in the past that denied them rights we as white people take for granted and have us a financial foothold | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it! Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee" So that makes it ok then? Because a select minority of men chose to be shitty to black women, any black man who becomes a target of racism or violence deserves it? Balance restored? | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it!" And the biggest killer of white people are other white people. People who choose to kill usually commit this crime in their surroundings and do it to their own race. Look at most serial killers. | |||
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"until all lives matter the BLM movement will keep pointing out that black lives ALSO matter! If you honestly believe that black and ethnic minority people are treated exactly the same by society, the police and the legal system, then you are either nieve or wilfully ignorant and need a serious wake up call. Racism is inherent to us as a species. Unless we acknowledge that each of us is capable of holding implicit bias (if not explicit) and actively seeking it out and confronting it in ourselves and others, then we will continue to fail as a society and the need for BLM and similar movements will persist!" This.. | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it! Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee So that makes it ok then? Because a select minority of men chose to be shitty to black women, any black man who becomes a target of racism or violence deserves it? Balance restored? " My point is this: get off our knees and fix what's wrong within our communities ourselves and not expect/blame white people for everything. White people aren't to blame for absent fathers. White people aren't to blame for knife crimes and gangs. White people aren't to blame for misogyny and homophobia in black communities. White people aren't to blame for our own self hatred. We need to recognise and fix our own problems not deflect and ignore. Until we stop fighting each other why expect other races to do what we're unable to? | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people What have you seen ? Lori Lightfoot, mayor of Chicargo refusing to interact with white journalists For one day? For one to one interviews only? To highlight the fact that the press corps are in fact racially biased towards white journalists? And what was the response of the white media? To mock her natural black hair and call her names. Why should she be made to talk to people who can be so nasty about her because of her race? Reverse the races and you’d be removed from office. But it’s ok when it’s against whites. That’s what I was taught. If you reverse the races/sex/whatever is it still acceptable? That’s what equality is. Equal for all" So you’re saying that because of individual incidents that are directly related to ongoing racism, that undermines the BLM movement? I’ve seen a lot written on SM this past year about racism and the emphasis (from white people) seems to be that if there’s a slight question about the actions of protesters, that invalidates the argument as a whole, yet the racist attitudes of others goes unchecked. It’s the issue of racial bias that is really at fault here and it’s symptomatic of why there’s an issue; white privilege dictates that people conform to their ideal of what ‘good behaviour’ looks like, how to protest, who should be sympathised with, who is deserving of equality…essentially it’s this attitude of having to qualify to be treated with respect and as a human being, which is completely backwards. People sit in glass houses throwing stones about others actions towards each other but never, ever look at themselves and their actions towards others or place themselves in those situations. | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it! Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee So that makes it ok then? Because a select minority of men chose to be shitty to black women, any black man who becomes a target of racism or violence deserves it? Balance restored? My point is this: get off our knees and fix what's wrong within our communities ourselves and not expect/blame white people for everything. White people aren't to blame for absent fathers. White people aren't to blame for knife crimes and gangs. White people aren't to blame for misogyny and homophobia in black communities. White people aren't to blame for our own self hatred. We need to recognise and fix our own problems not deflect and ignore. Until we stop fighting each other why expect other races to do what we're unable to? " White privilege is responsible. | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it! Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee So that makes it ok then? Because a select minority of men chose to be shitty to black women, any black man who becomes a target of racism or violence deserves it? Balance restored? My point is this: get off our knees and fix what's wrong within our communities ourselves and not expect/blame white people for everything. White people aren't to blame for absent fathers. White people aren't to blame for knife crimes and gangs. White people aren't to blame for misogyny and homophobia in black communities. White people aren't to blame for our own self hatred. We need to recognise and fix our own problems not deflect and ignore. Until we stop fighting each other why expect other races to do what we're unable to? " This last bit you said i can full get on board with. This is sensible talking!!! Thank you | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people What have you seen ? Lori Lightfoot, mayor of Chicargo refusing to interact with white journalists For one day? For one to one interviews only? To highlight the fact that the press corps are in fact racially biased towards white journalists? And what was the response of the white media? To mock her natural black hair and call her names. Why should she be made to talk to people who can be so nasty about her because of her race? Reverse the races and you’d be removed from office. But it’s ok when it’s against whites. That’s what I was taught. If you reverse the races/sex/whatever is it still acceptable? That’s what equality is. Equal for all So you’re saying that because of individual incidents that are directly related to ongoing racism, that undermines the BLM movement? I’ve seen a lot written on SM this past year about racism and the emphasis (from white people) seems to be that if there’s a slight question about the actions of protesters, that invalidates the argument as a whole, yet the racist attitudes of others goes unchecked. It’s the issue of racial bias that is really at fault here and it’s symptomatic of why there’s an issue; white privilege dictates that people conform to their ideal of what ‘good behaviour’ looks like, how to protest, who should be sympathised with, who is deserving of equality…essentially it’s this attitude of having to qualify to be treated with respect and as a human being, which is completely backwards. People sit in glass houses throwing stones about others actions towards each other but never, ever look at themselves and their actions towards others or place themselves in those situations. " If you read my post you’ll see I said exactly the opposite. I don’t think the real BLM has anything to do with it. I think it’s just been used as an excuse by some to let a little white racism fly. And the fact that it happens and no one cares is proof to me it’s accepted currently. | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people What have you seen ? Lori Lightfoot, mayor of Chicargo refusing to interact with white journalists For one day? For one to one interviews only? To highlight the fact that the press corps are in fact racially biased towards white journalists? And what was the response of the white media? To mock her natural black hair and call her names. Why should she be made to talk to people who can be so nasty about her because of her race? Reverse the races and you’d be removed from office. But it’s ok when it’s against whites. That’s what I was taught. If you reverse the races/sex/whatever is it still acceptable? That’s what equality is. Equal for all" So if the majority of the reporters were black? If white people were oppressed as black people have been and continue to be? Or just a white mayor only speaking to white people? Reversing the races out of the context of the situation proves nothing. The mayor (I believe the first woman, black, gay mayor) chose 1 day to promote black reporter who were/are vastly under represented in the press corps. It was to celebrate her 2nd year in office. I'm not surprised it was fox news that tried to sue her. Not one bit. | |||
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"This is fab swingers. Not a place to talk politics. Race or religion . This site is for liberated swingers.if you want to talk about all the above. Go to joke book. Life is to short for this kinda crap" Plenty of kiss, fuck, chuck threads for. You to get involved with. Off you pop sunshine. Just because we like sex doesn't mean we can't debate serious subjects as well. The world is not so linear. | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it! Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee So that makes it ok then? Because a select minority of men chose to be shitty to black women, any black man who becomes a target of racism or violence deserves it? Balance restored? My point is this: get off our knees and fix what's wrong within our communities ourselves and not expect/blame white people for everything. White people aren't to blame for absent fathers. White people aren't to blame for knife crimes and gangs. White people aren't to blame for misogyny and homophobia in black communities. White people aren't to blame for our own self hatred. We need to recognise and fix our own problems not deflect and ignore. Until we stop fighting each other why expect other races to do what we're unable to? This last bit you said i can full get on board with. This is sensible talking!!! Thank you "It's refreshing to exchange views without being insulted, so thank you. | |||
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"As a black person, my view is this. We as black people need to believe our lives matter. The biggest killer of black people is other black people. The biggest racist/ colourist I know are black people. Over the last year, listening to the likes of Kevin Samuels and Tommy Sotomayor, two black YouTube influencers who do nothing but denigrate black women in particular, with the almost full support of black men my opinion now if I read about a black man being hurt/manhandled/killed by a white person is #ohwellitiswhatitis. Yes, I said it! Couldn’t have put it better myself. I agree. Dee So that makes it ok then? Because a select minority of men chose to be shitty to black women, any black man who becomes a target of racism or violence deserves it? Balance restored? My point is this: get off our knees and fix what's wrong within our communities ourselves and not expect/blame white people for everything. White people aren't to blame for absent fathers. White people aren't to blame for knife crimes and gangs. White people aren't to blame for misogyny and homophobia in black communities. White people aren't to blame for our own self hatred. We need to recognise and fix our own problems not deflect and ignore. Until we stop fighting each other why expect other races to do what we're unable to? " This just shows a lack of understanding of history. Minorities were denied rights to own property. Even when those rights were granted, they were denied loans based on their ethnicity. This has created a wealth gap. Minorities are more likely to never own property because they didn’t get this inter-generational wealth white people got with cheap loans on property. This all creates poverty, which leads to all the problems you see. Violence, drugs, lack of education, crime. It all plays a role. We brought people over and made them slves, then set them free and act like they’ve had the same advantages we had. | |||
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"I’ve definitely seen more open racism against whites since the BLM started. I don’t think it’s an issue that the real BLM wanted but it’s definitely something that’s happening. Things that if the roles were reversed what be considered racists, but seems perfectly fine when aimed at white people What have you seen ? Lori Lightfoot, mayor of Chicargo refusing to interact with white journalists For one day? For one to one interviews only? To highlight the fact that the press corps are in fact racially biased towards white journalists? And what was the response of the white media? To mock her natural black hair and call her names. Why should she be made to talk to people who can be so nasty about her because of her race? Reverse the races and you’d be removed from office. But it’s ok when it’s against whites. That’s what I was taught. If you reverse the races/sex/whatever is it still acceptable? That’s what equality is. Equal for all" There seems to be a misapprehension amongst many people that white people can experience racism (based on the colour of their skin). They cannot. They CAN experience racial prejudice, however that is not what we're talking about here. Racism is about non-white people being oppressed by institutional, societal structures. https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/can-white-people-experience-racism-12340542/ "White people would only experience racism if the existing power structures enabled prejudice against them to cause this kind of widespread negative impact – as it does for people of colour. But that’s not how society currently works." | |||
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