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"You could park right up to your side of the line, leaving about one inch between the cars... But if you then saw that the other car had an elderly or infirm passenger who needed loads of space at that side, you might feel a bit mean for not anticipating the other drivers problem. " there are spaces designed specifically for families, elderly or infirm. Yes these spaces can be taken. However highly unlikely that all are taken by those who the spaces are designated for. Car parks that do not have these types of spaces. The owner of the car is responsible for parking correctly and if they are disabled or infirm. It is their responsibly to either inform the owners of the parking area or accept the spacing provided. The fact that blue badge holders can park on double yellow lines regardless of time (scottish law at least) means they do not need to park in narrow spaces. You can tell I have bee in my bonnet about bad parking... Sometimes wish I drove a monster truck and just crushed cars for bad parking...   | |||
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"Old style car parking spaces are not designed for modern wider cars. It makes it very difficult to park and be able to get out of a vehicle regardless. However. If someone blatantly parks on or over a line. My works van will be dead centre of the next space. If they can't get in or out of the space due to their bad parking, their issue not mine. And I have had stand up argument with an asshole regarding this very point. Parked correctly. They couldn't reverse straight out like a normal human being. Got shirty told them to fuck off. The wife who was driving the car left the gold chained alpha male husband to rant. She drove off without him...." Ha ha ha. Brilliant. | |||
"You could park right up to your side of the line, leaving about one inch between the cars... But if you then saw that the other car had an elderly or infirm passenger who needed loads of space at that side, you might feel a bit mean for not anticipating the other drivers problem. " What if you could only leave them room by parking on the line at the other side yourself? | |||
"You could park right up to your side of the line, leaving about one inch between the cars... But if you then saw that the other car had an elderly or infirm passenger who needed loads of space at that side, you might feel a bit mean for not anticipating the other drivers problem. there are spaces designed specifically for families, elderly or infirm. Yes these spaces can be taken. However highly unlikely that all are taken by those who the spaces are designated for. Car parks that do not have these types of spaces. The owner of the car is responsible for parking correctly and if they are disabled or infirm. It is their responsibly to either inform the owners of the parking area or accept the spacing provided. The fact that blue badge holders can park on double yellow lines regardless of time (scottish law at least) means they do not need to park in narrow spaces. You can tell I have bee in my bonnet about bad parking... Sometimes wish I drove a monster truck and just crushed cars for bad parking... "If I drove a monster truck there would definitely be a few flattened cars over the years | |||
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"If you're sure it's bad parking. Perhaps that was the only space available to them & whoever was on the other side of them had parked like a dickhead. And so on. If you're able to park & get out/in while leaving space then do so, don't get your pants in a knot thinking others are just pricks as default." I have no knowledge of why they parked that way. They left 2ft of of space on their passenger side, which could have been for a variety of reasons. I didn’t think they were a prick, just wondered what people’s thoughts were on how I should park. | |||
"Did they park that way deliberately ? Was the car next to them forcing them over by being parked too near to their space ? Doesn't matter really. What DOES matter is what you do now. Should you park considerately for both of you ? Or should you just ignore any problem you might cause for them? It's your choice, your behaviour. It doesn't do to say it was someone elses fault after you've made that decision. What if they have to come inside and ask you to move your car ? What if they dent your car trying to get into theirs... Just do the decent thing , especially as you expect it of others. ( no one in particular - all parkers ) " What is the decent thing? | |||
"I would make sure they had room to get in. They were parked there first however badly. Parking bay's are only guidelines after all. " So you would park further towards the car at the other side to allow them room? | |||
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"I'm not the best parker but I try to make sure there is room, after all I don't want my car scratched by a door, all I can say really" Yeah me too. | |||
God knows what I’d do then haha | |||
"I know some people who will park over two bays so that they don’t get their car damaged. But in my car park outside my apartment I’ll park within the lines regardless of where others are parked. If they can’t get in then tough. I’ve had knocks on my door from neighbours and I’ve told them that I’m parked within the lines cause I have consideration for others. Wont do when I get my new car on Tuesday though haha not in case it gets scratched
God knows what I’d do then haha"Saying that though, if there was room for me to move over a little in a supermarket car park, I would. | |||
"You could park right up to your side of the line, leaving about one inch between the cars... But if you then saw that the other car had an elderly or infirm passenger who needed loads of space at that side, you might feel a bit mean for not anticipating the other drivers problem. there are spaces designed specifically for families, elderly or infirm. Yes these spaces can be taken. However highly unlikely that all are taken by those who the spaces are designated for. Car parks that do not have these types of spaces. The owner of the car is responsible for parking correctly and if they are disabled or infirm. It is their responsibly to either inform the owners of the parking area or accept the spacing provided. The fact that blue badge holders can park on double yellow lines regardless of time (scottish law at least) means they do not need to park in narrow spaces. You can tell I have bee in my bonnet about bad parking... Sometimes wish I drove a monster truck and just crushed cars for bad parking... "1) Blue Badge holders are limited to 3hrs on the public highway, whether on double yellows or not. 2) It is often unsafe to park on double yellows, especially as the sole occupants and driver of your vehicle, this is because.. a) You have to push your door fully open into the road, probably on a section of road that is busy/dangerous, otherwise there wouldn't be double yellows in the first place. b) You have to get your mobility aid (wheelchair, in my case) out at the back of your vehicle whilst on an active highway. This is dangerous. c) It's highly likely there will be no dropped kerb to get off the road and onto the pavement in the wheelchair. Wheelchair users are at bonnet height, below bonnet height for vans, large SUVs, buses, trucks etc. We are incredibly vulnerable sat in a wheelchair on an active highway. It is to be avoided like the plague. I also often have a 4yo to get in/out of the car, so further safety considerations. I, for one, am heartily sick of arriving at venues to find only 1 or 2 blue badge bays, which are already occupied. It's a very regular occurrence, particularly at my doctors (1 blue badge bay, the rest very narrow). I have parked over two bays before, or right up on one side but I put my Blue Badge in the windscreen to show why. If there are no Blue Badge bays, I try to park at the arse end of the car park, on the end of a row of bays. I then hope no-one parks next to me. Take home message - especially at vaccine centres, which seem to be in church halls and other such venues with very limited parking, not all apparently inconsiderate parkers are inconsiderate. Some of us might need to get a wheelchair up the side of a vehicle, or to assist an elderly person who also need the door opened fully. | |||
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"I would make sure they had room to get in. They were parked there first however badly. Parking bay's are only guidelines after all. So you would park further towards the car at the other side to allow them room? " Yes providing I also had room to get put. If not I'd bitch and moan as I circle round and round trying to find a better space. | |||
"I know some people who will park over two bays so that they don’t get their car damaged. But in my car park outside my apartment I’ll park within the lines regardless of where others are parked. If they can’t get in then tough. I’ve had knocks on my door from neighbours and I’ve told them that I’m parked within the lines cause I have consideration for others. Wont do when I get my new car on Tuesday though haha not in case it gets scratched
God knows what I’d do then haha
Saying that though, if there was room for me to move over a little in a supermarket car park, I would. "I try to park as best I can considering space and potential door dents ha ha | |||
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"No, just park normally. I'd be worried about damage to my car. Easier to just move along without the drama" What do you mean by parking normally? | |||
"No, just park normally. I'd be worried about damage to my car. Easier to just move along without the drama What do you mean by parking normally? " Meaning parking how you would park in a normal situations, in the middle of the bay | |||
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"No, just park normally. I'd be worried about damage to my car. Easier to just move along without the drama What do you mean by parking normally? Meaning parking how you would park in a normal situations, in the middle of the bay" Wouldn’t that cause drama though, because by parking normally they wouldn’t be able to get in. Well not easily anyway. | |||
"No, just park normally. I'd be worried about damage to my car. Easier to just move along without the drama What do you mean by parking normally? Meaning parking how you would park in a normal situations, in the middle of the bay Wouldn’t that cause drama though, because by parking normally they wouldn’t be able to get in. Well not easily anyway. " That would be their own fault for parking the way they did. They could hardly moan at you for parking square in a bay. Like I say why cause unnecessary drama What if someone forced them to park too close to the line and they tried to be considerate by parking as far over as they could? Who's at fault then? Or the most logical thing would be to find another bay | |||
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"No, just park normally. I'd be worried about damage to my car. Easier to just move along without the drama What do you mean by parking normally? Meaning parking how you would park in a normal situations, in the middle of the bay Wouldn’t that cause drama though, because by parking normally they wouldn’t be able to get in. Well not easily anyway. That would be their own fault for parking the way they did. They could hardly moan at you for parking square in a bay. Like I say why cause unnecessary drama What if someone forced them to park too close to the line and they tried to be considerate by parking as far over as they could? Who's at fault then? Or the most logical thing would be to find another bay " Ah ok, I get you.I agree, I wouldn’t want to overly compensate to accommodate them because it has a knock on effect. | |||
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"I blame the white line painters...all the parking bays are far too narrow to open a car door properly "It's not the painters fault, it's the planners who use the regulated standard size parking bay 4.8 meters x 2.4 meters | |||
"Did anyone read the bit where it was pointed out blue badge holders may have to park towards one side of a regular bay if blue badge bays are unavailable? I HAVE to open my door fully or I cannot get out, simple as, so unless the regular bays are jolly wide, you may well find me parking off to one side, but within the lines. As I said earlier, if this is necessary, I try and take myself to the farthest reaches of the car park and attempt to find an end bay. This means I choose to increase the distance I have to self propel (possibly with my 4yo in tow) to try and make things more convenient for non-disabled drivers. The multi storey car park that I pay full whack for a season ticket on has 3 blue badge bays. These can be full and my only choice then is to park on odd number floors (no lifts on even numbers). The NCP people have told me to park across two bays and put my badge in, so they won't fine me, but I've come back to all sorts of rude notes on the windscreen and, although I can't prove it, vandalism of my car. I do apologise for the fact I need a mobility aid; cannot use the steps and need to open my door fully. I realise this is a massive inconvenience to those of you who ARE more able to drive up to the top floor, where there are ALWAYS spaces, but you have to walk down 1 set of steps to get to a lift. I don't claim benefits, I pay my season ticket, I pay my taxes etc, I just need a bit more space, so don't shoot the wheelchair user if we do have to park asymmetrically or, heaven forbid, across two bays (as instructed by the attendant)." Do you have stickers on your side and rear windows alerting others as to why you have to park like it? | |||
"Did anyone read the bit where it was pointed out blue badge holders may have to park towards one side of a regular bay if blue badge bays are unavailable? I HAVE to open my door fully or I cannot get out, simple as, so unless the regular bays are jolly wide, you may well find me parking off to one side, but within the lines. As I said earlier, if this is necessary, I try and take myself to the farthest reaches of the car park and attempt to find an end bay. This means I choose to increase the distance I have to self propel (possibly with my 4yo in tow) to try and make things more convenient for non-disabled drivers. The multi storey car park that I pay full whack for a season ticket on has 3 blue badge bays. These can be full and my only choice then is to park on odd number floors (no lifts on even numbers). The NCP people have told me to park across two bays and put my badge in, so they won't fine me, but I've come back to all sorts of rude notes on the windscreen and, although I can't prove it, vandalism of my car. I do apologise for the fact I need a mobility aid; cannot use the steps and need to open my door fully. I realise this is a massive inconvenience to those of you who ARE more able to drive up to the top floor, where there are ALWAYS spaces, but you have to walk down 1 set of steps to get to a lift. I don't claim benefits, I pay my season ticket, I pay my taxes etc, I just need a bit more space, so don't shoot the wheelchair user if we do have to park asymmetrically or, heaven forbid, across two bays (as instructed by the attendant)." If makes sense if the driver side has allowed more room by moving over in the space. In those circumstances I wouldn’t think anything of parking next to them normally, because it won’t affect them getting in. What happened to me today though was that it was the driver side that was on the white line, so by parking normally i left them little room to get in. | |||
"Did anyone read the bit where it was pointed out blue badge holders may have to park towards one side of a regular bay if blue badge bays are unavailable? I HAVE to open my door fully or I cannot get out, simple as, so unless the regular bays are jolly wide, you may well find me parking off to one side, but within the lines. As I said earlier, if this is necessary, I try and take myself to the farthest reaches of the car park and attempt to find an end bay. This means I choose to increase the distance I have to self propel (possibly with my 4yo in tow) to try and make things more convenient for non-disabled drivers. The multi storey car park that I pay full whack for a season ticket on has 3 blue badge bays. These can be full and my only choice then is to park on odd number floors (no lifts on even numbers). The NCP people have told me to park across two bays and put my badge in, so they won't fine me, but I've come back to all sorts of rude notes on the windscreen and, although I can't prove it, vandalism of my car. I do apologise for the fact I need a mobility aid; cannot use the steps and need to open my door fully. I realise this is a massive inconvenience to those of you who ARE more able to drive up to the top floor, where there are ALWAYS spaces, but you have to walk down 1 set of steps to get to a lift. I don't claim benefits, I pay my season ticket, I pay my taxes etc, I just need a bit more space, so don't shoot the wheelchair user if we do have to park asymmetrically or, heaven forbid, across two bays (as instructed by the attendant)." If I were you I would park across 2 bays as advised by the attendants. Your badge should be enough, but people are pricks, so I’d probably put a note in my window too to explain why. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. " Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. | |||
"Did anyone read the bit where it was pointed out blue badge holders may have to park towards one side of a regular bay if blue badge bays are unavailable? I HAVE to open my door fully or I cannot get out, simple as, so unless the regular bays are jolly wide, you may well find me parking off to one side, but within the lines. As I said earlier, if this is necessary, I try and take myself to the farthest reaches of the car park and attempt to find an end bay. This means I choose to increase the distance I have to self propel (possibly with my 4yo in tow) to try and make things more convenient for non-disabled drivers. The multi storey car park that I pay full whack for a season ticket on has 3 blue badge bays. These can be full and my only choice then is to park on odd number floors (no lifts on even numbers). The NCP people have told me to park across two bays and put my badge in, so they won't fine me, but I've come back to all sorts of rude notes on the windscreen and, although I can't prove it, vandalism of my car. I do apologise for the fact I need a mobility aid; cannot use the steps and need to open my door fully. I realise this is a massive inconvenience to those of you who ARE more able to drive up to the top floor, where there are ALWAYS spaces, but you have to walk down 1 set of steps to get to a lift. I don't claim benefits, I pay my season ticket, I pay my taxes etc, I just need a bit more space, so don't shoot the wheelchair user if we do have to park asymmetrically or, heaven forbid, across two bays (as instructed by the attendant). Do you have stickers on your side and rear windows alerting others as to why you have to park like it? " No. I have a Government issue blue badge in the windscreen, which is always facing the aisle because I always reverse park. It's no-one else's business. It's exceptionally rare I park across two bays, but it's done with permission of the NCP so that's adequate. There are plenty of spaces but unfortunately because lifts are only on odd floors, perfectly able people seem to dislike parking on the even floors, which usually have plenty of space. You only have to walk down one flight of stairs to an odd floor to find a lift, but unfortunately this is impossible by wheelchair and I refuse to wheel up/down the car ramps. I'm talking about a private car park, where I have permission from the operator to park thus. I mean, they could put more blue badge spaces in, right? There are three on the ground floor, but also about 6 regular spaces, which could be converted. | |||
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"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. " But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf | |||
"PS: I never park asymmetrically if another vehicle is already parked. I pick somewhere with no-one else parked. If someone else choose to try and squeeze in after me, that's their choice. I drive to the higher odd floors to try and get away from the masses - it doesn't matter how many floors I go down in a lift. Apart from the day I parked on 11 and when I came out, the lift was out of order "I get you think it’s nobody’s business - and yes, the blue badge should be enough! HOWEVER - not everyone thinks the same so maybe stickers on the side window should be considered. I’ve seen them before and it has worked wonders. Would certainly save you having to rant | |||
"PS: I never park asymmetrically if another vehicle is already parked. I pick somewhere with no-one else parked. If someone else choose to try and squeeze in after me, that's their choice. I drive to the higher odd floors to try and get away from the masses - it doesn't matter how many floors I go down in a lift. Apart from the day I parked on 11 and when I came out, the lift was out of order
I get you think it’s nobody’s business - and yes, the blue badge should be enough!
HOWEVER - not everyone thinks the same so maybe stickers on the side window should be considered. I’ve seen them before and it has worked wonders.
Would certainly save you having to rant "I don't especially want to plaster my attractive Sports Tourer with stickers, I'll be honest. It's enough to endure the stares which ensue when people watch me reverse in (assuming I'm not disabled). They scurry off quickly when the crutches come out, followed by the wheelchair. I've had people gesticulating at me before I've had a chance to get out, because obviously a woman of 35 cannot possibly need a blue badge space. Today in Manchester, the absolutely pig-ignorant people who I had the misfortune to come across wouldn't have cared if I'd painted myself as a blue badge with naked body paint. Yes, I'm ranting, because pretty much every time I go out somewhere, I'm painfully reminded that society is not designed for wheelchair users and especially not for ones with young children in tow. I fucking hate it and I do NOT want to be further "labelled", to be perfectly honest. I have the Government issued label and that should be sufficient. | |||
"PS: I never park asymmetrically if another vehicle is already parked. I pick somewhere with no-one else parked. If someone else choose to try and squeeze in after me, that's their choice. I drive to the higher odd floors to try and get away from the masses - it doesn't matter how many floors I go down in a lift. Apart from the day I parked on 11 and when I came out, the lift was out of order
I get you think it’s nobody’s business - and yes, the blue badge should be enough!
HOWEVER - not everyone thinks the same so maybe stickers on the side window should be considered. I’ve seen them before and it has worked wonders.
Would certainly save you having to rant
I don't especially want to plaster my attractive Sports Tourer with stickers, I'll be honest. It's enough to endure the stares which ensue when people watch me reverse in (assuming I'm not disabled). They scurry off quickly when the crutches come out, followed by the wheelchair. I've had people gesticulating at me before I've had a chance to get out, because obviously a woman of 35 cannot possibly need a blue badge space.
Today in Manchester, the absolutely pig-ignorant people who I had the misfortune to come across wouldn't have cared if I'd painted myself as a blue badge with naked body paint.
Yes, I'm ranting, because pretty much every time I go out somewhere, I'm painfully reminded that society is not designed for wheelchair users and especially not for ones with young children in tow. I fucking hate it and I do NOT want to be further "labelled", to be perfectly honest. I have the Government issued label and that should be sufficient."Then I wish you all the luck. I only mentioned the stickers because my aunt had to put up with the ‘pig-ignorant’ people you mentioned so she decided to do something about it and help herself by adding them. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf" You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. | |||
" Then I wish you all the luck. I only mentioned the stickers because my aunt had to put up with the ‘pig-ignorant’ people you mentioned so she decided to do something about it and help herself by adding them. " My reference to pig ignorant people today was in relation to navigating the streets, shops and outside spaces by wheelchair with a 4yo strapped to my knee. My reading of the lines about helping oneself, I might be misreading the intention behind them, so I won't comment further. Disabled people shouldn't have to bend over backwards to avoid perceived inconvenience to people who are more able to, for example, not use the lift. Step to one side. Step up a pavement rather than at the dropped kerb. Etc. My stressful experiences are far more frequent in the public spaces occupied by blinkered, self centered people, more than car parks. Today's issues: - People queuing for Wetherspoons three deep, blocking dropped kerbs but who are either a) all deaf or b) ignoring the "excuse me please" - People who clearly do not NEED to, using the lift to move between floors in the Arndale (there are escalators and stairs too), but because it's one household per lift, means waiting upwards of 10, sometimes 15 minutes just to get in and move between floors - People on phones who seem unable to see a fat woman with a tall 4yo on her knee in a wheelchair and fall over you, then swear at you, e.g. "for fuck sake, bitch" - People who walk past you when you're keeping 2m distance in a queue and push in, because obviously we're invisible - People tutting or swearing at me when I make them stop/slow down so I can take a kerb slowly (I don't want to faceplant my daughter into the tram lines). Usually because they're walking far too close behind and not watching where they are going - People who walk right in front of me as I'm trying to push up a steep slope - People sitting on the disabled access ramp eating food, who need to gather up all their crap, while you are holding yourself and aforementioned 4yo on a slope with just the power of your shoulders - Cyclists who ride through red lights and nearly crash into us as we cross the road on a green man - Pavements closed to allow scaffolding on building sites, but the temporary space provided for people to traverse is inaccessible for wheelchairs - Pavements and on-street disabled bays blocked by extra outdoor seating - Shops with one way systems that only have one accessible door, so to get out, you have to push past people all going the opposite way, whilst saying "sorry, excuse me" all the way and trying not to run people's feet over - Disabled toilets in cafes used to store the spare seating removed so that tables can be socially distanced - The fucking awful broken pavements/lack of dropped kerbs/other crappy public realm that cause the wheelchair wheels to get caught and abruptly stop. We have been tipped over before now - D*unk people who shout things at you and scare your child (not unique to wheelchair users, but harder to get away from them) That's just today, and you wonder why I feel like utter shit right now? That was my first trip out to the city centre (other than to go directly to my workplace) since 2020. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. " They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. " I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. " But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. " I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. | |||
" Then I wish you all the luck. I only mentioned the stickers because my aunt had to put up with the ‘pig-ignorant’ people you mentioned so she decided to do something about it and help herself by adding them. My reference to pig ignorant people today was in relation to navigating the streets, shops and outside spaces by wheelchair with a 4yo strapped to my knee. My reading of the lines about helping oneself, I might be misreading the intention behind them, so I won't comment further. Disabled people shouldn't have to bend over backwards to avoid perceived inconvenience to people who are more able to, for example, not use the lift. Step to one side. Step up a pavement rather than at the dropped kerb. Etc. My stressful experiences are far more frequent in the public spaces occupied by blinkered, self centered people, more than car parks. Today's issues: - People queuing for Wetherspoons three deep, blocking dropped kerbs but who are either a) all deaf or b) ignoring the "excuse me please" - People who clearly do not NEED to, using the lift to move between floors in the Arndale (there are escalators and stairs too), but because it's one household per lift, means waiting upwards of 10, sometimes 15 minutes just to get in and move between floors - People on phones who seem unable to see a fat woman with a tall 4yo on her knee in a wheelchair and fall over you, then swear at you, e.g. "for fuck sake, bitch" - People who walk past you when you're keeping 2m distance in a queue and push in, because obviously we're invisible - People tutting or swearing at me when I make them stop/slow down so I can take a kerb slowly (I don't want to faceplant my daughter into the tram lines). Usually because they're walking far too close behind and not watching where they are going - People who walk right in front of me as I'm trying to push up a steep slope - People sitting on the disabled access ramp eating food, who need to gather up all their crap, while you are holding yourself and aforementioned 4yo on a slope with just the power of your shoulders - Cyclists who ride through red lights and nearly crash into us as we cross the road on a green man - Pavements closed to allow scaffolding on building sites, but the temporary space provided for people to traverse is inaccessible for wheelchairs - Pavements and on-street disabled bays blocked by extra outdoor seating - Shops with one way systems that only have one accessible door, so to get out, you have to push past people all going the opposite way, whilst saying "sorry, excuse me" all the way and trying not to run people's feet over - Disabled toilets in cafes used to store the spare seating removed so that tables can be socially distanced - The fucking awful broken pavements/lack of dropped kerbs/other crappy public realm that cause the wheelchair wheels to get caught and abruptly stop. We have been tipped over before now - D*unk people who shout things at you and scare your child (not unique to wheelchair users, but harder to get away from them) That's just today, and you wonder why I feel like utter shit right now? That was my first trip out to the city centre (other than to go directly to my workplace) since 2020." I was thinking about a private mail, but I think it's more important it said publicly. I feel awful for how your day had been. Don't misunderstand me, I wasn't any of those people you have mentioned today, but how many times gave I been caught up in my own world and in the process disadvantaging others? I could have been that guy on the slope eating a sandwich thinking "I'll just move if I need to" without realising the actual implications of how much difficulty that can cause to someone who needs to use the slope. It's an inherent, cultural, bias, but that's not a fair excuse. And in relation to your earlier posts: had I indeed seen a car parked over two bays my instant thoughts would be perhaps towards criticism of the driver. I'm trying to find a space and yet here someone is parked over two. You've made me challenge myself a bit, and you are right. On behalf of the times I've jumped to conclusions, of my bias, and your shitty daily challenges, I'm sorry for my part played. I will try harder, and I hope society can do more too. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. " I have to do this all the time (drive around for ages, wait, or park miles away and push), because of the aforementioned issues with parking as a disabled driver (plus child) at many locations. Why assume you can just rock up and park immediately at a vaccine centre? Many don't even HAVE car parking. My GP surgery close off the whole car park on vaccine clinic days and because my husband does not drive, I pushed by wheelchair for half a bloody hour uphill in the peeing down rain to get my jab in Feb (and again in May, but this time it wasn't raining). I volunteer as a vaccinator in vaccine centres too and the one I'm at tomorrow has no public parking. The one I'm usually at has a tiny car park at the side (shared with the mosque) and there's a larger car park only about 800yds away, but we get irate, rude people mouthing off because they've had to walk a few hundred yards. I often have to park on that car park 800yds away because the tiny car park is full, so if it can be done by manual wheelchair, it can be done on foot. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. " Bit like you feeling entitled to be able to park and prevent them access to their vehicle that was parked there first? | |||
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"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. Bit like you feeling entitled to be able to park and prevent them access to their vehicle that was parked there first? " I can’t decide if you’re joking or not. But yeah, I would totally feel entitled to use a vacant space in a car park if it was the only one and I needed to park. | |||
"I'd be more concerned about them trying to squeeze into their car if I parked close to them on purpose and denting mine! "Yes that’s definitely a worry isn’t it? | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. I have to do this all the time (drive around for ages, wait, or park miles away and push), because of the aforementioned issues with parking as a disabled driver (plus child) at many locations. Why assume you can just rock up and park immediately at a vaccine centre? Many don't even HAVE car parking. My GP surgery close off the whole car park on vaccine clinic days and because my husband does not drive, I pushed by wheelchair for half a bloody hour uphill in the peeing down rain to get my jab in Feb (and again in May, but this time it wasn't raining). I volunteer as a vaccinator in vaccine centres too and the one I'm at tomorrow has no public parking. The one I'm usually at has a tiny car park at the side (shared with the mosque) and there's a larger car park only about 800yds away, but we get irate, rude people mouthing off because they've had to walk a few hundred yards. I often have to park on that car park 800yds away because the tiny car park is full, so if it can be done by manual wheelchair, it can be done on foot." I know it has parking because it was my second jab in the same place. They ask you to not come early or late so that the car park isn’t full of people waiting for their appointments. You can’t park anywhere near it other than the carpark because it’s resident parking. I could have circled the car park and waited, but I didn’t need to, as there was a space. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. Bit like you feeling entitled to be able to park and prevent them access to their vehicle that was parked there first? I can’t decide if you’re joking or not. But yeah, I would totally feel entitled to use a vacant space in a car park if it was the only one and I needed to park. " A vacant space that clearly isn't big enough to allow all parties adequate access to their vehicle. As stated twice before, parking bay's are guidance only. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. Bit like you feeling entitled to be able to park and prevent them access to their vehicle that was parked there first? I can’t decide if you’re joking or not. But yeah, I would totally feel entitled to use a vacant space in a car park if it was the only one and I needed to park. A vacant space that clearly isn't big enough to allow all parties adequate access to their vehicle. As stated twice before, parking bay's are guidance only. " Yeah we’ll definitely have to agree to disagree. | |||
"Park dead centre. If they were forced to park that way by somebody else, that has a knock-on effect to you, and you could leave the next parker the same issue. If you can stop that chain the you should do it. If nobody forced them to park like that, then it's their problem if they have a hard time because you decide to park correctly. Yeah that’s what I did, I think the same way. But how would you know if someone was forced to park like that? This just screams pettiness tbf You don’t know. Well, unless the car is still there. I this case I didn’t have much option because there was one space, so I gave as much room as I could, but couldn’t leave enough as he needed because there wasn’t room. I don’t think it’s petty though to just park straight. What’s the point of having bays if we all just ignore them. They're just guidelines. You can park horizontally across them if you wanted. To deliberately park in such a way to prevent someone access to their vehicle is not nice. You have the choice. I wouldn’t block anyone in on purpose for spite. But I’m not going to park like a prick and make it difficult for someone else to accommodate a person who’s on the line. But you did do it in purpose. You weren't forced to park there really even though you claim it to be the only space left. It was vaccination clinic so I should have imagined the churn for spaces was fairly high. You could have waited for a more appropriate space. I got there when I needed to. And I’m not driving round or waiting to find a new space when I can park in the one that’s there. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. It’d be a bit entitled if the driver of the badly parked car to expect that I think. I have to do this all the time (drive around for ages, wait, or park miles away and push), because of the aforementioned issues with parking as a disabled driver (plus child) at many locations. Why assume you can just rock up and park immediately at a vaccine centre? Many don't even HAVE car parking. My GP surgery close off the whole car park on vaccine clinic days and because my husband does not drive, I pushed by wheelchair for half a bloody hour uphill in the peeing down rain to get my jab in Feb (and again in May, but this time it wasn't raining). I volunteer as a vaccinator in vaccine centres too and the one I'm at tomorrow has no public parking. The one I'm usually at has a tiny car park at the side (shared with the mosque) and there's a larger car park only about 800yds away, but we get irate, rude people mouthing off because they've had to walk a few hundred yards. I often have to park on that car park 800yds away because the tiny car park is full, so if it can be done by manual wheelchair, it can be done on foot." I think you’ve made your point now. As the other guy pointed out, we can just hope people have read your ordeal and will look at things differently. I know I am one of those because as I said, my Aunt is in the same boat. However there are little things you could do to help yourself but refuse to. I applaud your volunteering and it’s amazing thing to do, but if you’re just going to moan about getting to your volunteer station and get this het up then maybe stop for a while. I really do wish everything wrong in the world for you is put right but in the meantime, I think you need to concentrate on overcoming these issues instead of letting them get to you so much | |||
" I think you’ve made your point now. As the other guy pointed out, we can just hope people have read your ordeal and will look at things differently. I know I am one of those because as I said, my Aunt is in the same boat. However there are little things you could do to help yourself but refuse to. I applaud your volunteering and it’s amazing thing to do, but if you’re just going to moan about getting to your volunteer station and get this het up then maybe stop for a while. I really do wish everything wrong in the world for you is put right but in the meantime, I think you need to concentrate on overcoming these issues instead of letting them get to you so much" I'm not moaning about getting to my volunteering. People coming to the centre moan because they have to use a car park 800yds away (the same one I, and most other volunteers have to use). No matter what you think you understand because of your Aunt, until YOU live it, until it is YOUR reality, you will not completely understand. If you'd asked me 5yrs ago, I thought I understood, but it's clear from my subsequent experience that I did not. What you are writing about is a ableist view of the world and such viewpoints are exactly why disabled people constantly battle against things. Instead of telling me what I must do to change, how I must try and shoehorn myself into the able bodied world, why not support the cry for the able bodied world to be made accessible to all? Things like making all parking bays wide, all step entrances into ramps, all doors to public places automatically opening etc would make hardly any change at all to how able bodied people experience the world, but would be utterly revolutionary to disabled people. I am not going to be told to sit down and stop moaning. If I'd accepted "no" as an answer, I wouldn't be vaccinating. I was initially automatically rejected because I couldn't answer "yes" to the question "can you stand up for a 6hr shift." Turns out no-one had really considered if it was necessary to stand up to administer a vaccine. Turns out it's not necessary and now that question has been removed from the screening. | |||
" I think you’ve made your point now. As the other guy pointed out, we can just hope people have read your ordeal and will look at things differently. I know I am one of those because as I said, my Aunt is in the same boat. However there are little things you could do to help yourself but refuse to. I applaud your volunteering and it’s amazing thing to do, but if you’re just going to moan about getting to your volunteer station and get this het up then maybe stop for a while. I really do wish everything wrong in the world for you is put right but in the meantime, I think you need to concentrate on overcoming these issues instead of letting them get to you so much I'm not moaning about getting to my volunteering. People coming to the centre moan because they have to use a car park 800yds away (the same one I, and most other volunteers have to use). No matter what you think you understand because of your Aunt, until YOU live it, until it is YOUR reality, you will not completely understand. If you'd asked me 5yrs ago, I thought I understood, but it's clear from my subsequent experience that I did not. What you are writing about is a ableist view of the world and such viewpoints are exactly why disabled people constantly battle against things. Instead of telling me what I must do to change, how I must try and shoehorn myself into the able bodied world, why not support the cry for the able bodied world to be made accessible to all? Things like making all parking bays wide, all step entrances into ramps, all doors to public places automatically opening etc would make hardly any change at all to how able bodied people experience the world, but would be utterly revolutionary to disabled people. I am not going to be told to sit down and stop moaning. If I'd accepted "no" as an answer, I wouldn't be vaccinating. I was initially automatically rejected because I couldn't answer "yes" to the question "can you stand up for a 6hr shift." Turns out no-one had really considered if it was necessary to stand up to administer a vaccine. Turns out it's not necessary and now that question has been removed from the screening." You’re right, I apologise. | |||
" I think you’ve made your point now. As the other guy pointed out, we can just hope people have read your ordeal and will look at things differently. I know I am one of those because as I said, my Aunt is in the same boat. However there are little things you could do to help yourself but refuse to. I applaud your volunteering and it’s amazing thing to do, but if you’re just going to moan about getting to your volunteer station and get this het up then maybe stop for a while. I really do wish everything wrong in the world for you is put right but in the meantime, I think you need to concentrate on overcoming these issues instead of letting them get to you so much I'm not moaning about getting to my volunteering. People coming to the centre moan because they have to use a car park 800yds away (the same one I, and most other volunteers have to use). No matter what you think you understand because of your Aunt, until YOU live it, until it is YOUR reality, you will not completely understand. If you'd asked me 5yrs ago, I thought I understood, but it's clear from my subsequent experience that I did not. What you are writing about is a ableist view of the world and such viewpoints are exactly why disabled people constantly battle against things. Instead of telling me what I must do to change, how I must try and shoehorn myself into the able bodied world, why not support the cry for the able bodied world to be made accessible to all? Things like making all parking bays wide, all step entrances into ramps, all doors to public places automatically opening etc would make hardly any change at all to how able bodied people experience the world, but would be utterly revolutionary to disabled people. I am not going to be told to sit down and stop moaning. If I'd accepted "no" as an answer, I wouldn't be vaccinating. I was initially automatically rejected because I couldn't answer "yes" to the question "can you stand up for a 6hr shift." Turns out no-one had really considered if it was necessary to stand up to administer a vaccine. Turns out it's not necessary and now that question has been removed from the screening. You’re right, I apologise."  | |||
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"Can I park my motorbike and side car across two parking spaces, with a white line under the middle ? I usually do but now i'm wondering if that might be a bit naughty ? It just makes it easier to get the ladders on and off." Why not | |||
"Can I park my motorbike and side car across two parking spaces, with a white line under the middle ? I usually do but now i'm wondering if that might be a bit naughty ? It just makes it easier to get the ladders on and off. Why not "Thanks I'll say you said. | |||
"Can I park my motorbike and side car across two parking spaces, with a white line under the middle ? I usually do but now i'm wondering if that might be a bit naughty ? It just makes it easier to get the ladders on and off. Why not
Thanks I'll say you said."Well it says further up the thread that marked parking bays are optional anyway, so I figure we can just all do what we like and to hell with anyone else. | |||
"Can I park my motorbike and side car across two parking spaces, with a white line under the middle ? I usually do but now i'm wondering if that might be a bit naughty ? It just makes it easier to get the ladders on and off. Why not
Thanks I'll say you said.
Well it says further up the thread that marked parking bays are optional anyway, so I figure we can just all do what we like and to hell with anyone else."I'm going diagonal then ....... can't wait. | |||
"Can I park my motorbike and side car across two parking spaces, with a white line under the middle ? I usually do but now i'm wondering if that might be a bit naughty ? It just makes it easier to get the ladders on and off. Why not
Thanks I'll say you said.
Well it says further up the thread that marked parking bays are optional anyway, so I figure we can just all do what we like and to hell with anyone else.
I'm going diagonal then ....... can't wait."Me too. | |||
"You could park right up to your side of the line, leaving about one inch between the cars... But if you then saw that the other car had an elderly or infirm passenger who needed loads of space at that side, you might feel a bit mean for not anticipating the other drivers problem. there are spaces designed specifically for families, elderly or infirm. Yes these spaces can be taken. However highly unlikely that all are taken by those who the spaces are designated for. Car parks that do not have these types of spaces. The owner of the car is responsible for parking correctly and if they are disabled or infirm. It is their responsibly to either inform the owners of the parking area or accept the spacing provided. The fact that blue badge holders can park on double yellow lines regardless of time (scottish law at least) means they do not need to park in narrow spaces. You can tell I have bee in my bonnet about bad parking... Sometimes wish I drove a monster truck and just crushed cars for bad parking... "No there isn't. There are disabled bays for Blue badge holders but not everyone with a disability has one, you are also not entitled to one just because you are old. | |||
"Did anyone read the bit where it was pointed out blue badge holders may have to park towards one side of a regular bay if blue badge bays are unavailable? I HAVE to open my door fully or I cannot get out, simple as, so unless the regular bays are jolly wide, you may well find me parking off to one side, but within the lines. As I said earlier, if this is necessary, I try and take myself to the farthest reaches of the car park and attempt to find an end bay. This means I choose to increase the distance I have to self propel (possibly with my 4yo in tow) to try and make things more convenient for non-disabled drivers. The multi storey car park that I pay full whack for a season ticket on has 3 blue badge bays. These can be full and my only choice then is to park on odd number floors (no lifts on even numbers). The NCP people have told me to park across two bays and put my badge in, so they won't fine me, but I've come back to all sorts of rude notes on the windscreen and, although I can't prove it, vandalism of my car. I do apologise for the fact I need a mobility aid; cannot use the steps and need to open my door fully. I realise this is a massive inconvenience to those of you who ARE more able to drive up to the top floor, where there are ALWAYS spaces, but you have to walk down 1 set of steps to get to a lift. I don't claim benefits, I pay my season ticket, I pay my taxes etc, I just need a bit more space, so don't shoot the wheelchair user if we do have to park asymmetrically or, heaven forbid, across two bays (as instructed by the attendant)." We have the same issue and have to make sure we can fully open the passenger door fully. What many dancing to understand it's not about being inconsiderate or someone just having to put up with it other people parking too close so a door can't be fully open could cause someone severe pain and issues and it's not a simple as just parking on the road because that can be just as unsafe if not worse if you have to fully open a door onto a public road. | |||
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"I never have this problem in my Lamborghini with scissor doors. Far more practical." Yes, but Doc and Marty have it even worse than most in their Delorean. | |||
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