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"very interesting. i dont use facebook so cannot read this. it does surprise me sometimes what we hear happens when people get fitted up. i remember that poor school teacher in bristol who the press tore apart when that woman was killed over christmas a few years back just because he was her landlord. Do you mean you can't read the link? doesnt matter how much compensation he got because people never forget a face and your ruined. if the police have made mistakes and got it wrong in this one i hope they are dealt with and the senior officers sacked." | |||
"Reminiscent of the Joanna Yates' case at the end of 2010. The landlord was slaughtered by the media and a large percentage of the general public believed he was guilty by the way the media portrayed him. He was proved to be innocent but not after his reputation was completely shredded." yep, and the sad thing is there will still be some despite all the facts proving him totally innocent who will think otherwise.. | |||
"very interesting. i dont use facebook so cannot read this. it does surprise me sometimes what we hear happens when people get fitted up. i remember that poor school teacher in bristol who the press tore apart when that woman was killed over christmas a few years back just because he was her landlord. doesnt matter how much compensation he got because people never forget a face and your ruined. if the police have made mistakes and got it wrong in this one i hope they are dealt with and the senior officers sacked." Do you mean you can't see the link? | |||
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"with a projected trial date of january 2013, both the defence and the prosecution have ample time to construct their case and find fault with the 'oppositions'" And until that date none of us will actually know the details of what they have found. | |||
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"with a projected trial date of january 2013, both the defence and the prosecution have ample time to construct their case and find fault with the 'oppositions'" Alternatively we could sack the investigating officers and lawyers and consult Facebook members instead....it's full of barrack room lawyers on FB. | |||
"with a projected trial date of january 2013, both the defence and the prosecution have ample time to construct their case and find fault with the 'oppositions' Alternatively we could sack the investigating officers and lawyers and consult Facebook members instead....it's full of barrack room lawyers on FB. " 
i've seen enough of it on here
heaven knows what it's like on FB with it's much larger membership base
another justification for me staying away from the place | |||
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"I'd love to read your facebook message, I don't see how anyone else could be responsible for her death? Dead bodies don't just turn up in the attic "well said and the grand mother knew nothing yerrrrrrr | |||
"I'd love to read your facebook message, I don't see how anyone else could be responsible for her death? Dead bodies don't just turn up in the attic "I will inbox you the link. | |||
"I'd love to read your facebook message, I don't see how anyone else could be responsible for her death? Dead bodies don't just turn up in the attic "I can't message you cos I don't have a pic on my profile  | |||
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"I'd love to read your facebook message, I don't see how anyone else could be responsible for her death? Dead bodies don't just turn up in the attic
I can't message you cos I don't have a pic on my profile "Lol ok hold on x | |||
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"I'd love to read your facebook message, I don't see how anyone else could be responsible for her death? Dead bodies don't just turn up in the attic
I can't message you cos I don't have a pic on my profile
Lol ok hold on x "Try now x | |||
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"Something not right with this case, the body has still not been officially identified. The worst case of getting it wrong in recent years, look at Colin stagg. " Yeah the whole identification thing is a bit weird | |||
"I'd love to read your facebook message, I don't see how anyone else could be responsible for her death? Dead bodies don't just turn up in the attic
I can't message you cos I don't have a pic on my profile
Lol ok hold on x
Try now x"Okay! | |||
"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really? "The worrying thing about the case… or what has been reported so far… is how they managed to not find the body during 2 previous searches. Neighbours have reported two police officers were seen taking a rolled up carpet into the premises and suspicions raised further when they noted it was an antique Persian Afshar rug in the Vase design (circa 1920); the family bought all of their rugs from Argos. The ‘authorities’ seem to be reluctant to make a connection between these statements and the empty space in the centre of the chief constable’s livingroom floor. It does make you wonder. | |||
"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really? "How did it get missed 3 times then? | |||
"Reminiscent of the Joanna Yates' case at the end of 2010. The landlord was slaughtered by the media and a large percentage of the general public believed he was guilty by the way the media portrayed him. He was proved to be innocent but not after his reputation was completely shredded." yeah i agree. its the problem with the current age of communication, there is often no objectivity, just a pack mentality of hate driven by the media looking to sensationalise and sell papers, before anything is proven. i for one always keep am open mind until proven otherwise. ok, if he is guilty then he deserves everything he gets. | |||
"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really?
The worrying thing about the case… or what has been reported so far… is how they managed to not find the body during 2 previous searches.
Neighbours have reported two police officers were seen taking a rolled up carpet into the premises and suspicions raised further when they noted it was an antique Persian Afshar rug in the Vase design (circa 1920); the family bought all of their rugs from Argos. The ‘authorities’ seem to be reluctant to make a connection between these statements and the empty space in the centre of the chief constable’s livingroom floor.
It does make you wonder."No it wasn't Argos, it definitely said they were mostly car boot sales!! | |||
"The house is very small, how could 3 searches including highly trained dogs miss anything? And the accused was there at all 3 searches. If it was me I would have done a runner before the first search!" i am sure i read this somewhere but may be wrong, that these houses are ones where the attics are connected without any division and that maybe the body was concealed over a neighbours property??? also, we dont know how teh body was concealed. if you went up in my loft it would take you a some time to find anything, its packed full of all sorts of stuff. | |||
"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really?
The worrying thing about the case… or what has been reported so far… is how they managed to not find the body during 2 previous searches.
Neighbours have reported two police officers were seen taking a rolled up carpet into the premises and suspicions raised further when they noted it was an antique Persian Afshar rug in the Vase design (circa 1920); the family bought all of their rugs from Argos. The ‘authorities’ seem to be reluctant to make a connection between these statements and the empty space in the centre of the chief constable’s livingroom floor.
It does make you wonder.
No it wasn't Argos, it definitely said they were mostly car boot sales!!"They sell Argos stuff on car boots too  | |||
"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really?
How did it get missed 3 times then?"Signs of decomp could of given a clue, that weren't there on the earlier searches  | |||
"very interesting. i dont use facebook so cannot read this. it does surprise me sometimes what we hear happens when people get fitted up. i remember that poor school teacher in bristol who the press tore apart when that woman was killed over christmas a few years back just because he was her landlord. doesnt matter how much compensation he got because people never forget a face and your ruined. if the police have made mistakes and got it wrong in this one i hope they are dealt with and the senior officers sacked. Do you mean you can't see the link?" yes mam | |||
"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really?
The worrying thing about the case… or what has been reported so far… is how they managed to not find the body during 2 previous searches.
Neighbours have reported two police officers were seen taking a rolled up carpet into the premises and suspicions raised further when they noted it was an antique Persian Afshar rug in the Vase design (circa 1920); the family bought all of their rugs from Argos. The ‘authorities’ seem to be reluctant to make a connection between these statements and the empty space in the centre of the chief constable’s livingroom floor.
It does make you wonder.
No it wasn't Argos, it definitely said they were mostly car boot sales!!
They sell Argos stuff on car boots too "Yep but a much bigger bargain is found at a car boot sale  | |||
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"Reports did say the lofts might be connected Tha accused came under suspicion when he spoke about Tia in the past tense" That was the original assumption but I watched the inter_iew again and he definitely says he loves her! | |||
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"Only 37?! He looks at least 5-6 older than me. Or is that just wishful thinking. lol I see the grandmother and neighbour have been warned not to go back to the area for fear of attack. Daft how some folk are so sure they are guilty already. "That's the media for you!! | |||
"Reports did say the lofts might be connected Tha accused came under suspicion when he spoke about Tia in the past tense That was the original assumption but I watched the inter_iew again and he definitely says he loves her!" I think that's the quote that sealed it for me, sex with three generations of the same family springs to mind | |||
"Only 37?! He looks at least 5-6 older than me. Or is that just wishful thinking. lol I see the grandmother and neighbour have been warned not to go back to the area for fear of attack. Daft how some folk are so sure they are guilty already.
That's the media for you!!"both have been implicated with the case irregardless of the national media, local feeling is likely to be running high i think staying away would be common sense the police have a duty to protect and a warning to stay away serves as protection to both the individuals safety and also the integrity of the case | |||
"Reminiscent of the Joanna Yates' case at the end of 2010. The landlord was slaughtered by the media and a large percentage of the general public believed he was guilty by the way the media portrayed him. He was proved to be innocent but not after his reputation was completely shredded." Yep...I bet the media hounds are hacking his families phones as we speak.. It doesnt look good for him..or the Grand mother and unless a total stranger murdered Kia and dumped her body in his attic then someone from that family is going to go down.. It always makes me laugh,the idiot mob who chase the prisons buses screaming abuse..when the prisoners are on their way to the trail.. The Sunday papers should be interesting..the press are bound to have found some 'source close the the accused' looking for their 15 minutes of fame who will tell their 'story'...
Guilty?..yeh I reckon so..both of them...(and how the fuck was she given bail???)lets just hope the ol bill are not too over zealous when it comes to putting a case together..as if | |||
"Reminiscent of the Joanna Yates' case at the end of 2010. The landlord was slaughtered by the media and a large percentage of the general public believed he was guilty by the way the media portrayed him. He was proved to be innocent but not after his reputation was completely shredded." While true, there is one difference she wasn't found in his attic! | |||
"Only 37?! He looks at least 5-6 older than me. Or is that just wishful thinking. lol I see the grandmother and neighbour have been warned not to go back to the area for fear of attack. Daft how some folk are so sure they are guilty already.
That's the media for you!!"I don't really see any difference between the media and forums on social networks sites stirring it all up | |||
"Reports did say the lofts might be connected Tha accused came under suspicion when he spoke about Tia in the past tense" I dont know for sure...but I wouldnt have thought houses that new would have interconnected lofts.. But heres a scenario...the neighbour murdered the girl..had the body in his house and then put her in next doors loft? | |||
"Only 37?! He looks at least 5-6 older than me. Or is that just wishful thinking. lol I see the grandmother and neighbour have been warned not to go back to the area for fear of attack. Daft how some folk are so sure they are guilty already.
That's the media for you!!
I don't really see any difference between the media and forums on social networks sites stirring it all up"Some might even say that Social Network sites like Facebook can prove more harmful and troublesome than the media... There is a whole generation where the vast majority are more influenced by sites like Facebook than any newspaper. | |||
"Only 37?! He looks at least 5-6 older than me. Or is that just wishful thinking. lol I see the grandmother and neighbour have been warned not to go back to the area for fear of attack. Daft how some folk are so sure they are guilty already.
That's the media for you!!
I don't really see any difference between the media and forums on social networks sites stirring it all up
Some might even say that Social Network sites like Facebook can prove more harmful and troublesome than the media...
There is a whole generation where the vast majority are more influenced by sites like Facebook than any newspaper." | |||
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"i guess you could take anything apart and make it look good,bad,right or wrong if you wanted to." agreed, I choose not to though as I am not a detective, lawyer, forensic scientist or judge. | |||
"Only 37?! He looks at least 5-6 older than me. Or is that just wishful thinking. lol I see the grandmother and neighbour have been warned not to go back to the area for fear of attack. Daft how some folk are so sure they are guilty already.
That's the media for you!!
I don't really see any difference between the media and forums on social networks sites stirring it all up"Ahhhh there is a huge difference. The media are monitored and often get spanked for making shit up. | |||
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"with a projected trial date of january 2013, both the defence and the prosecution have ample time to construct their case and find fault with the 'oppositions' And until that date none of us will actually know the details of what they have found." Apart from the fact that she was found in her grandmother's attic and that her body had been moved several times before it was discovered. Not many people have access to that particular attic and it can be narrowed down to probably one of two people. The grandmother looks like a sour-faced old hag and she's shagging her daughter's ex so I would put it past her to be guilty of collusion but my money is on the boyfriend. He ran and then hid when police helicopters had pinpointed him. Innocent men don't do that. | |||
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"I was sent an interesting link via Facebook regarding the alleged murderer of Tia Sharpe. Up until I received this link I was pretty convinced that this man was guilty. But there are so many holes in this whole investigation, I am now not so sure. This man is guilty before proven innocent, he s_ands no chance!" Unless you had full disclosure from the prosecution, then you wouldnt know what evidence they have against him. I believe the defence dont even know yet. | |||
"I was sent an interesting link via Facebook regarding the alleged murderer of Tia Sharpe. Up until I received this link I was pretty convinced that this man was guilty. But there are so many holes in this whole investigation, I am now not so sure. This man is guilty before proven innocent, he s_ands no chance!" He's guilty because he's guilty. Innocent men don't go on the lamb. | |||
"I was sent an interesting link via Facebook regarding the alleged murderer of Tia Sharpe. Up until I received this link I was pretty convinced that this man was guilty. But there are so many holes in this whole investigation, I am now not so sure. This man is guilty before proven innocent, he s_ands no chance!" I completely agree with you - innocent until proven guilty. What purpose would the British Justice System have if we could not base trials on that premise. | |||
"I was sent an interesting link via Facebook regarding the alleged murderer of Tia Sharpe. Up until I received this link I was pretty convinced that this man was guilty. But there are so many holes in this whole investigation, I am now not so sure. This man is guilty before proven innocent, he s_ands no chance! He's guilty because he's guilty. Innocent men don't go on the lamb." Well until there is a trial, nobody can say guilty or innocent. I am not totally convinced myself but the truth will out eventually. | |||
"And people are listening to what is written on facebook why????? A little girl has been killed ... it is up to the police to identify her killer and to ensure the justice system hangs them out to dry. I never listen to all the tripe that gets printed, if there are hard facts and evidence to convict then convict they will." It was a link that was sent to me via Facebook, but if I am honest I had made my own mind up when I saw the inter_iew. | |||
"with a projected trial date of january 2013, both the defence and the prosecution have ample time to construct their case and find fault with the 'oppositions' And until that date none of us will actually know the details of what they have found. Apart from the fact that she was found in her grandmother's attic and that her body had been moved several times before it was discovered. Not many people have access to that particular attic and it can be narrowed down to probably one of two people. The grandmother looks like a sour-faced old hag and she's shagging her daughter's ex so I would put it past her to be guilty of collusion but my money is on the boyfriend. He ran and then hid when police helicopters had pinpointed him. Innocent men don't do that." He didn't "hide", he went into a newsagents and also asked various people if they had seen Tia. | |||
"I was sent an interesting link via Facebook regarding the alleged murderer of Tia Sharpe. Up until I received this link I was pretty convinced that this man was guilty. But there are so many holes in this whole investigation, I am now not so sure. This man is guilty before proven innocent, he s_ands no chance! He's guilty because he's guilty. Innocent men don't go on the lamb." aye,and what about those shifty eyes,and the limp. that'll do for me,hang him high. speculation in such cases,involving the media,should be controlled by law. all to often the media demonise suspects,raking through every aspect of their lives. the press can dedicate pages upon, pages,for weeks on end,pointing the finger of guilt,making even the most innocent of pursuits,sound sordid or weird,turning every molehill into a mountain. if the suspect is later found innocent,a five line apology,on page seven,under the phones4u advert,is deemed sufficient,it's just not right. often the persons life,is left in ruin,their former life never retrieved. few peoples lives could survive this kind of scrutiny,when every fact is twisted,and sensationalised,to their extreme detriment. all to shift an extra few copies,in the morning rush. whether this guy is innocent,or guilty.the law must be changed,preventing the press from crucifying innocent suspects,prior to any legal trial,and subsequent judgement. it's nice to have freedom of speech,but when it amounts to speculative slander,it's not right. if the press cannot report in a responsible manner,then the law should ensure it. | |||
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"I was sent an interesting link via Facebook regarding the alleged murderer of Tia Sharpe. Up until I received this link I was pretty convinced that this man was guilty. But there are so many holes in this whole investigation, I am now not so sure. This man is guilty before proven innocent, he s_ands no chance! He's guilty because he's guilty. Innocent men don't go on the lamb. aye,and what about those shifty eyes,and the limp. that'll do for me,hang him high. speculation in such cases,involving the media,should be controlled by law. all to often the media demonise suspects,raking through every aspect of their lives. the press can dedicate pages upon, pages,for weeks on end,pointing the finger of guilt,making even the most innocent of pursuits,sound sordid or weird,turning every molehill into a mountain. if the suspect is later found innocent,a five line apology,on page seven,under the phones4u advert,is deemed sufficient,it's just not right. often the persons life,is left in ruin,their former life never retrieved. few peoples lives could survive this kind of scrutiny,when every fact is twisted,and sensationalised,to their extreme detriment. all to shift an extra few copies,in the morning rush. whether this guy is innocent,or guilty.the law must be changed,preventing the press from crucifying innocent suspects,prior to any legal trial,and subsequent judgement. it's nice to have freedom of speech,but when it amounts to speculative slander,it's not right. if the press cannot report in a responsible manner,then the law should ensure it. " That's all well and good but he went on the run. And the next day the body of a child is found in his attic. Innocent men wouldn't do that. | |||
there was a case last year,where the caretaker was in the frame,the newspapers slaughtered the poor guy,worked out he was totally innocent.
now i come to think about it,i'm pretty sure scooby doo was involved in that case. | |||
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"The police will know if the body had been moved, or are you suggesting that someone else murdered her....then broke in without being disturbed, carrying a body, with the house surrounded by policemen and press, and managed to conceal the body in the attic and then escape without anyone seeing them? Really?
The worrying thing about the case… or what has been reported so far… is how they managed to not find the body during 2 previous searches.
Neighbours have reported two police officers were seen taking a rolled up carpet into the premises and suspicions raised further when they noted it was an antique Persian Afshar rug in the Vase design (circa 1920); the family bought all of their rugs from Argos. The ‘authorities’ seem to be reluctant to make a connection between these statements and the empty space in the centre of the chief constable’s livingroom floor.
It does make you wonder."aha you almost had me there,but i looked,and the rugs are made in bromley,and the vases milton keyne. although the chief constable does have a shifty look,not a complete innocent i'll wager hmmmmmmm.  | |||
