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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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I find the Israel / West Bank conflict annoying, why do two religions feel the need to fight?
The Muslim and Christian and Jewish religions have fought against one snd other for 2 millennium
Yet they are all closely connected..
Religion..
It seems to me if these deities were real they would surely stop the death and destruction made in their name..
Can’t see why the need to kill anyone tbh
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Religions : man made ideologies to control the masses and gain land.
Wouldn't it be great if by believing in God (or not) and being kind to each other was enough. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"go to glasgow.
they only time women up there get sex is when celtic beat rangers.
and before then the pope has to approve it."
Can't stand seeing grown men / women spewing hatred towards each other because of football teams.. most been brought up on it by there deep fried Mars Bar loving families and don't understand it.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Religion often gets the blame but in reality it has nothing to do with it. Some people feed starving kids in the name of their god, some take care of elderly or the poor or homeless. Others kill people.
Religion is simply an invented concept that helps people make sense of the world and gives them purpose and reason. People use it to justify and explain their behaviour. Some people use it as a tool for controlling others, getting them to do what they want.
We blame "religion" as though it is some kind of entity that has an existence outside human thought and has the capacity to influence people. Religion is just another name for human imagination. If we all stop believing things exist simply because there's no evidence for them then human society would collapse. Money only works because enough people buy into the idea. Justice, human rights, nation states, democracy, legal codes - they all rely on our ability to agree common stories and act as if they're real. Without them, we would go back to tribal packs like the apes we evolved from. Religion is just another story that some people agree means they should behave in certain ways - if you want to change their behavoir, don't blame the story, blame the people. But until you give them a new story nothing will change.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"go to glasgow.
they only time women up there get sex is when celtic beat rangers.
and before then the pope has to approve it.
Can't stand seeing grown men / women spewing hatred towards each other because of football teams.. most been brought up on it by there deep fried Mars Bar loving families and don't understand it.."
i lived there. dont get me wrong i love the scots and there 'fuck off ya prick' attitude but you are a target if you wear anything green or blue.
i was in specsavers just trying on some sunglasses and this women opened the door and called me a speccy bam! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think politics has more to do with Israel and the West Bank.
In the '70s/'80s the PLO were more left leaning rather than religious as that was the dominant alternative ideology at the time.
Since the collapse of the USSR and the end of the Soviet-Afghan war Islamism has become the dominant ideology, in some parts of the world, on which to hang political views on.
Religion is just another set of ideas like Communism or other -isms which people then turn to their own agendas. It gives some people a way to make sense of the world whether that is for good, bad or indifferent reasons. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find the Israel / West Bank conflict annoying, why do two religions feel the need to fight?
The Muslim and Christian and Jewish religions have fought against one snd other for 2 millennium
Yet they are all closely connected..
Religion..
It seems to me if these deities were real they would surely stop the death and destruction made in their name..
Can’t see why the need to kill anyone tbh
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The current Israel/Palestine conflict isn’t about religion |
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By *an4funMan
over a year ago
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"Religion often gets the blame but in reality it has nothing to do with it. Some people feed starving kids in the name of their god, some take care of elderly or the poor or homeless. Others kill people.
Religion is simply an invented concept that helps people make sense of the world and gives them purpose and reason. People use it to justify and explain their behaviour. Some people use it as a tool for controlling others, getting them to do what they want.
We blame "religion" as though it is some kind of entity that has an existence outside human thought and has the capacity to influence people. Religion is just another name for human imagination. If we all stop believing things exist simply because there's no evidence for them then human society would collapse. Money only works because enough people buy into the idea. Justice, human rights, nation states, democracy, legal codes - they all rely on our ability to agree common stories and act as if they're real. Without them, we would go back to tribal packs like the apes we evolved from. Religion is just another story that some people agree means they should behave in certain ways - if you want to change their behavoir, don't blame the story, blame the people. But until you give them a new story nothing will change.
Mr"
Hallelujah! |
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By *ljamMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
It's easy to get reductive and blame religion, but really the issues in the Middle East are so messy and complicated that blaming any one thing is a disservice to the situation. Can only hope it gets resolved without much more bloodshed, but that's a faint hope. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its an excuse to dislike someone, your god which is the same as mine but likes blue instead of purple is why i hate you???
The problem is society is still surrounded by it, when a school can be closed for daring to mention a certain religious figure where on a slow poor road to nowhere
Sooner the world wakes up to the “excuse” the better
Not to disregard the work religious charity groups do however and the community
And do not get me started on the “gods saving people from covid” lot, if hes saving them he bloody created it!!! 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve worked in both places, and it’s more deep rooted than just religion, too vast a debate to have on here, the only clear indication you’ll get is who Votes left and who votes right.
It’s very political, cultural, divisional and self defensive.
Plenty of defence journal writings in this that are pretty unbiased towards either side |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
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More nationalism. Jewish versus Arab. Jewish settlers returned to Palestine and effectively seized it after WW2. The Palestinians became second class civilians in a country they’d thought of as home for two thousand years.
Only the backing of the US allowed Israel to succeed.
Hot topic I know. |
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"Religion often gets the blame but in reality it has nothing to do with it. Some people feed starving kids in the name of their god, some take care of elderly or the poor or homeless. Others kill people.
Religion is simply an invented concept that helps people make sense of the world and gives them purpose and reason. People use it to justify and explain their behaviour. Some people use it as a tool for controlling others, getting them to do what they want.
We blame "religion" as though it is some kind of entity that has an existence outside human thought and has the capacity to influence people. Religion is just another name for human imagination. If we all stop believing things exist simply because there's no evidence for them then human society would collapse. Money only works because enough people buy into the idea. Justice, human rights, nation states, democracy, legal codes - they all rely on our ability to agree common stories and act as if they're real. Without them, we would go back to tribal packs like the apes we evolved from. Religion is just another story that some people agree means they should behave in certain ways - if you want to change their behavoir, don't blame the story, blame the people. But until you give them a new story nothing will change.
Mr"
Excellent post
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Religion often gets the blame but in reality it has nothing to do with it. Some people feed starving kids in the name of their god, some take care of elderly or the poor or homeless. Others kill people.
Religion is simply an invented concept that helps people make sense of the world and gives them purpose and reason. People use it to justify and explain their behaviour. Some people use it as a tool for controlling others, getting them to do what they want.
We blame "religion" as though it is some kind of entity that has an existence outside human thought and has the capacity to influence people. Religion is just another name for human imagination. If we all stop believing things exist simply because there's no evidence for them then human society would collapse. Money only works because enough people buy into the idea. Justice, human rights, nation states, democracy, legal codes - they all rely on our ability to agree common stories and act as if they're real. Without them, we would go back to tribal packs like the apes we evolved from. Religion is just another story that some people agree means they should behave in certain ways - if you want to change their behavoir, don't blame the story, blame the people. But until you give them a new story nothing will change.
Mr
Excellent post
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A lot of sense in the response, whilst most of it I can agree with, there are some things that don’t explain why religions and zealots fight other religions that they don’t agree with..
My original point isn’t really about religion, it’s about fanatics and the fact people are turned by listening to the garbage they preach.
Too many people have died in the name of their religious beliefs, so whilst a lot of what you say is sort of true, a lot of bad things come from brainwashing people into believing fanaticism |
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