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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Anyone watching?

So informative. She's great.

Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I haven't watched it but will look out for it.

I am on HRT and have been on it since last September and feel so much better for it.

NBVN x

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

It's knowing when to start.

I'm gonna be a nightmare I know I am.

I've dropped down to 3 weekly cycles so don't think I'm far off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will watch it on catch up. I’ve been on hrt for about 2 years now, definitely helped with my night sweats. Just wish it would increase my energy levels x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I once arranged her mortgage ,years ago. She was lovely .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I once arranged her mortgage ,years ago. She was lovely ."

She wasn't big bother then?

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago!

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By *innie The MinxWoman  over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma.

Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I meant to watch this. I've been taking HRT for 3 years after going into surgical menopauss and couldn't be without it. Its taken a while to find the right one for me though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! "

You can buy tests from the pharmacy which are like pregnancy tests that tell you your levels. Not sure how accurate they are though

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago!

You can buy tests from the pharmacy which are like pregnancy tests that tell you your levels. Not sure how accurate they are though "

I didn't know that, thanks

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma.

Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing."

God, yes!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs..

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma.

Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing."

Yes. People still use 'menopausal woman' as an insult too.

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By * F 2018Couple  over a year ago

shropshire


"Anyone watching?

So informative. She's great.

Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about."

Yes found it very good...no to HRT TAKING THE Alternative route to begin with ,the brain fog etc etc etc is awful need chocolate lol

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By * F 2018Couple  over a year ago

shropshire


"Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma.

Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing."

Quite agree, my mum sailed through so hasn't got a clue when I talk to her about it

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.."

Yes, that's quite shocking isn't it?

I thought the Muslim doctor was amazing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have daily hot flushes and headaches haven’t had a cycle in 9 months ....... been told I’m peri menopausal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Will it be on YouTube as I don't have a tv

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Will it be on YouTube as I don't have a tv"

Not sure.

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By *edeWoman  over a year ago

the abyss

I meant to watch this but will have to get it on catch up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Dam it I missed it. I was on HRT last year but recently came off. Now my cycles are just so irregular it's annoying. I'm going to have to find it on catch up I think and have a watch.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.."

Unfortunately, this is the case for many issues that are specific to women. Remember, hysteria is the reason a hysterectomy is so called....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! "

There is a lab that advertises on Facebook that they will do detailed blood test for hormone levels for £150 and then give you the info to take to your GP or you can get private prescription from them.

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By *not123Couple  over a year ago

sp1

Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago!

There is a lab that advertises on Facebook that they will do detailed blood test for hormone levels for £150 and then give you the info to take to your GP or you can get private prescription from them."

Expensive

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.."

Unfortunately GP's are often the runt of the litter who are almost guaranteed a position because they are so scarce.

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South Wales

I think I’m perimenopausal. I’ve started my second period today within two weeks of my last.

Then I can go two months or more until my next.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago!

There is a lab that advertises on Facebook that they will do detailed blood test for hormone levels for £150 and then give you the info to take to your GP or you can get private prescription from them.

Expensive"

Not expensive for private sector. I hope you don't want to go abroad on holiday this year - the cost of Covid tests will give you a heart attack.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone watching?

So informative. She's great.

Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about."

I found it strange and sad that the updated breast cancer/ HRT link information hasn't been widely publicised.

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By *oItForYorkshireCouple  over a year ago

Yorkshire

I take HRT. I don’t think it’s helped me one bit. I’m going to see the doctor to see if it needs upping or something.

i will be watching the documentary with keen interest today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I haven’t watched it but will catch up on it tonight.

Sadly lots of gp’s are quite ignorant & unhelpful when it comes to peri menopause and menopause.

I’ve been experiencing peri menopausal symptoms for over 2 years, erratic periods even though I have a mirena, night sweats, brain fog, low moods.

I have been asking for hrt gel but gp insists on blood tests.. which are not an accurate way to diagnose.. due to peri my hormones will fluctuate daily

I am waiting for gps to open fully before I go in armed with NICE guidelines & research and will demand it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’m going to watch this today.

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By *he FAB Social - MCRCouple (FF)  over a year ago

manchester


"How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do?? "

Replaces the oestrogen. I had to go in and describe my symptoms but it took them like 3 visits.

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford

HRT is not for everyone, but it worked for me, with hot sweats. But whilst I was on it, I started monthlies again, a bit like taking the pill, which was a nuisance. I found it just delayed the menopause and still have hot sweats. I took it for 8 years. Some people stay on it for the rest of their lives.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading

I am and it made a huge difference.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! "

My GP ordered the test and it cane back that i am peri.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

After reading this , I might give the programme a go but I really find Davina irritating to the nth degree.

I'll watch it for the other info.

The comment above about HRT and cancer links.... My doc tried to warn me about HRT and cancer links so I did my own research. The incidents of cancer were so low it was like warning people not to eat an ice cream in case you drown but do your own research on that one. I went back for the HRT.

I've never been for a mammogram for much the same reason BUT do your own research on that too.

Periods / sanitary towels / incontinence ..... all overlooked for no other reason than you are a WOMAN.

Don't overlook that HYSTERectomies were given to HYSTERICAL women because well ....... women are mad, screaming, difficult creatures.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.."

Also as a bloke had the same thoughts. So for 50% of the population it feels like we are stumbling around in the 1940s as far as health and medication. It's shocking. If just assumed that womens health was being looked after by our NHS but it would seem very far from it. Take a few anti depressants or pain relief and bugger off. That and poor diagnosis for endometriosis or drugs that are only tested on males but given to females and just expected to be efficacious. Great program.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do??

Replaces the oestrogen. I had to go in and describe my symptoms but it took them like 3 visits. "

Oh you do exist.

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By *hrista BellendWoman  over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I shall watch this tonight

I was diagnosed as peri 3 years ago, docs noticed it on my 40th birthday mot check up, ran some more bloods and I take an iron supplement once a week and menopause supplements daily, I'm on the mirena so my periods have stopped

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"After reading this , I might give the programme a go but I really find Davina irritating to the nth degree.

I'll watch it for the other info.

The comment above about HRT and cancer links.... My doc tried to warn me about HRT and cancer links so I did my own research. The incidents of cancer were so low it was like warning people not to eat an ice cream in case you drown but do your own research on that one. I went back for the HRT.

I've never been for a mammogram for much the same reason BUT do your own research on that too.

Periods / sanitary towels / incontinence ..... all overlooked for no other reason than you are a WOMAN.

Don't overlook that HYSTERectomies were given to HYSTERICAL women because well ....... women are mad, screaming, difficult creatures. "

Granny hits the nail on the head, as always. Granny for PM

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone watching?

So informative. She's great.

Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about."

My colleague just told me about this so I'm going to find it on catch up if possible and watch it. I'm not one for HRT, my mum was on it and it contributed to her cancer diagnosis which she died from so I'd rather put up with being radgey and feeling like someone dropped me into hell than take that risk

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles "

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous. "

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment.

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By *ittleAcornMan  over a year ago

visiting the beach

Excellent program. Much of it mirroring the experiences of my (ex) wife.

She finally got on HRT a couple of years back, and is a different person because of it.

She is very angry about how long she was left to suffer.

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By *ittleAcornMan  over a year ago

visiting the beach

...and to Granny's point re Davina. I thought she was very good in this. Barely irritating at all!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on?

I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest

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By *uckslut and MCouple  over a year ago

Poole


"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet.

My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it.

DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! "

Oooooh, I think I'm peri too. Very odd dates and lengths. I'll have to look up this programme. Thanks for the info.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on?

I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest

"

Don't worry until you have to. I had very few symptoms and you might not either. Because menopause isn't openly discussed the bad stuff tends to be all that's mentioned so we tend to assume it will definitely happen to us too.

The freedom that comes with a lack of periods is wonderful and not worrying about contraception another benefit.

One thing I will say to all women. If you had stitches after child birth start moisturising the scar now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm taking a vaginal hrt but tbh I think a trip to the drs is happening very soon. Think I need full hrt now

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on?

I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest

Don't worry until you have to. I had very few symptoms and you might not either. Because menopause isn't openly discussed the bad stuff tends to be all that's mentioned so we tend to assume it will definitely happen to us too.

The freedom that comes with a lack of periods is wonderful and not worrying about contraception another benefit.

One thing I will say to all women. If you had stitches after child birth start moisturising the scar now.

"

What do you moisturise with? Had 3rd degree tears after my kids.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on?

I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest

Don't worry until you have to. I had very few symptoms and you might not either. Because menopause isn't openly discussed the bad stuff tends to be all that's mentioned so we tend to assume it will definitely happen to us too.

The freedom that comes with a lack of periods is wonderful and not worrying about contraception another benefit.

One thing I will say to all women. If you had stitches after child birth start moisturising the scar now.

"

What worries me the most is I'm pretty nutty anyway

And I'm scared it will make me even nuttier

But like you said some people experience very few symptoms - I REALLY hope I fall into that category!

Ahh yes and no periods or contraception

Heaven!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do??

Replaces the oestrogen. I had to go in and describe my symptoms but it took them like 3 visits. "

There are different types and levels if you have it diagnosed correctly (I have read this recently) but NHS often only replace the oestrogen.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on?

I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest

Don't worry until you have to. I had very few symptoms and you might not either. Because menopause isn't openly discussed the bad stuff tends to be all that's mentioned so we tend to assume it will definitely happen to us too.

The freedom that comes with a lack of periods is wonderful and not worrying about contraception another benefit.

One thing I will say to all women. If you had stitches after child birth start moisturising the scar now.

"

I would add, any bulges from the vagina, urine leakage or retention, difficulty in passing urine or faeces may be due to pelvic organ prolapse, which is very common, especially in women who have given birth. A urogynaecologist is the specialist to see

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment. "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on?

I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest

"

Don't worry about anything that hasn't yet happened.

I'm not gloating but I didn't experience anything bad at all. No night sweats that I recall. I did tingle and go red every now n then but honestly it was mild and ' don't let them lock me up,' .... it felt nice and didn't last long.

( I went back for HRTyears after my menopause cos I thought it might help with the 'naughties' but I never told the doc that )

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake."

Did it horny you up?

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake."

You need Testosterone for your libido to improve.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

had my menopause in my mid 30s apart from periods stopping i felt nothing had no side affects and more horny now than i ever was if thats poss

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake.

Did it horny you up? "

Nah. I'm often horny even still but I thought it'd make me rage.... never did.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake.

You need Testosterone for your libido to improve. "

I read/heard that only in the past year or so ....... I don't want a beard n dick tho

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment. "

Misogynistic indifference, it's all over society in too many areas..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've recorded this program to watch. I know absolutely nothing about the menopause and have no idea what to expect or when.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading

We also need employers to take this seriously and address it. Simple solutions such as a chill out room can make all the difference but how many have this available to them? Also consideration as to the mental effects - terrible anxiety and problems with concentration have just been met with veiled threats from my employers. I have a manager who is unfortunately clueless.

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By *wist my nipplesCouple  over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly


"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.."

Yep, exactly the same for breastfeeding issues too.

Mrs kf x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's knowing when to start.

I'm gonna be a nightmare I know I am.

I've dropped down to 3 weekly cycles so don't think I'm far off "

I try to go out on my bike at least 5 times a week...

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By *om and JennieCouple  over a year ago

Chams or Socials

I’ve recorded it but am very interested. I had a medically induced menopause with tablets when I was 19 & again 4 years ago with injections every 28 days & hrt until a total hysterectomy 2 years ago. I’m still on the hrt.

J x

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By *ittleAcornMan  over a year ago

visiting the beach


"We also need employers to take this seriously and address it. Simple solutions such as a chill out room can make all the difference but how many have this available to them? Also consideration as to the mental effects - terrible anxiety and problems with concentration have just been met with veiled threats from my employers. I have a manager who is unfortunately clueless.

"

It's the knock on effects also.

The thermostat wars got very nasty at work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment.

Misogynistic indifference, it's all over society in too many areas.."

This

I’ve been lucky overall apart from flushes but why else is there so much ignorance surrounding something so natural?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed..

There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs..

Yep, exactly the same for breastfeeding issues too.

Mrs kf x"

Yep! I found help through my own hard work and research, but many people don't know where to find it...

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake.

You need Testosterone for your libido to improve.

I read/heard that only in the past year or so ....... I don't want a beard n dick tho "

Total myth.

It's all about the dosage.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My go who is great says blood tests are pretty useless as levels go up and down. Best to go by symptoms. The balance app is fantastic if you want to know more.

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

Let's face it, the average GP is scared to get into it.

We had a young female doctor at our local surgery who decided that howvthings were wasn't good enough so went on a vigil to try to highlight the issues of menopause.

She was brilliant but once she put her head above the parapet she was soon cast out.

In a roundabout way she saved Mrs M's life but sadly she will never know.

Good on her and anyone who flysheet the flag for change.

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester

Flies the flag even.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's face it, the average GP is scared to get into it.

We had a young female doctor at our local surgery who decided that howvthings were wasn't good enough so went on a vigil to try to highlight the issues of menopause.

She was brilliant but once she put her head above the parapet she was soon cast out.

In a roundabout way she saved Mrs M's life but sadly she will never know.

Good on her and anyone who flysheet the flag for change. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I take HRT and have done for several years. I no longer get a period but i still get hot flushes, night sweats, brain fog etc. I get them less though because I'm on HRT. My GP surgery is fantastic regarding HRT.

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By *essiCouple  over a year ago

suffolk


"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious"

When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already)

2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man!

I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time..

I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious

When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already)

2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man!

I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time..

I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me.. "

Bloody hell! That's disgraceful! I was dismissed by a female GP that I saw for unusual bleeding. Made me feel like a complete fool.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious

When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already)

2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man!

I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time..

I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me..

Bloody hell! That's disgraceful! I was dismissed by a female GP that I saw for unusual bleeding. Made me feel like a complete fool. "

i hope you made a serious complaint about that.

unacceptable

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By *essiCouple  over a year ago

suffolk


"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious

When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already)

2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man!

I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time..

I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me..

Bloody hell! That's disgraceful! I was dismissed by a female GP that I saw for unusual bleeding. Made me feel like a complete fool.

i hope you made a serious complaint about that.

unacceptable"

It was disrespectful and wrong on every level..I just wanted to get out of her room ASAP..

No I didn't take it further than my GP...my word against hers at the end of the day. my problem was sorted out in the next few months..

What really upset me at the time,she had literally no empathy for a women in that situation..

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By *ixen-XWoman  over a year ago

Unicornville Utopia And Lovin It X

Started watching it got to finish it yet ...enjoyed what I saw and didn't realise how many more symptoms there was ..it explains alot more of how I am ...been going thru it for about 7 years now so hopefully see and end soon ... the flushes the insomnia the anxiety great not having monthly periods I'm down to about 3 a year only downside is it can happen unexpectedly

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By *ixen-XWoman  over a year ago

Unicornville Utopia And Lovin It X

Oh and yes been on HRT for a couple of years when the flushes got too bad constant through out the day ... its worked a treat x

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By *om and JennieCouple  over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious

When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already)

2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man!

I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time..

I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me..

Bloody hell! That's disgraceful! I was dismissed by a female GP that I saw for unusual bleeding. Made me feel like a complete fool.

i hope you made a serious complaint about that.

unacceptable

It was disrespectful and wrong on every level..I just wanted to get out of her room ASAP..

No I didn't take it further than my GP...my word against hers at the end of the day. my problem was sorted out in the next few months..

What really upset me at the time,she had literally no empathy for a women in that situation.."

I had a female gynae & she too was vile. T is not a violent man - he lives in his own happy little world - but even he wanted to punch her for the way she spoke to me & kept moving the goalposts.

J x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

7 years of meno..hot flushes day and night..mood swings etc..can't go on HRT..family history of breast cancer (my mum and nan) it sucks truly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment.

Misogynistic indifference, it's all over society in too many areas.."

I believe it's how we ended up with Viagra, instead of a treatment for severe period pains, which is what it was originally researched for I could be wrong but probably not

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment.

Misogynistic indifference, it's all over society in too many areas..

I believe it's how we ended up with Viagra, instead of a treatment for severe period pains, which is what it was originally researched for I could be wrong but probably not"

Wasn't viagra originally for hypertension ?

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS  over a year ago

Stockport

Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous.

Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons.

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London


"Anyone watching?

So informative. She's great.

Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about."

This one of the nine women would never take it.

Just because it's there, doesn't make it useful.

What is severely lacking is other therapies and robust research but hey, there's no money to be made out of womens health

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Anyone watching?

So informative. She's great.

Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about.

This one of the nine women would never take it.

Just because it's there, doesn't make it useful.

What is severely lacking is other therapies and robust research but hey, there's no money to be made out of womens health "

Is that really the reason though? I mean 50% of the population? And almost every one of them is going to "catch" menopause... That's a pretty big and guaranteed market place. Whatever the reasons are ive been genuinely shocked at how little research and understanding there is for half of the populations health.

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By *ittleAcornMan  over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous.

Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons.

"

I found the piece about Alzheimers interesting also. I was unaware of that connection.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous.

Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons."

That's also the reason i pushed to be given HRT.

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous.

Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons."

I never realised there were all those other benefits associated with hrt until I saw this programme. I think I'd take it if I needed to and was offered it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

New programme with Davina on tonight. Channel 4, 9pm.

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By *om and JennieCouple  over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"New programme with Davina on tonight. Channel 4, 9pm. "

Got it recorded so I can watch in peace

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South Wales

I’ll watch this one, seeing my Dr on Friday so can go in prepared!

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By *iamondCougarWoman  over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

For those of you who don’t know …. If you think you are peri menopausal you can have a blood test to check.

Ask if your GP surgery has a GP that specialises in or is menopause aware - it’s helps and it’s easier!

The shortage of HRT products is purely down to supply and demand…. Manufacturers can’t just up their production overnight or ship stock in as quickly as they like.

Please don’t get cross with surgery or pharmacy staff - it’s not their fault when they can’t obtain supplies to meet demand

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"New programme with Davina on tonight. Channel 4, 9pm.

Got it recorded so I can watch in peace "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I had some horrible experiences with my peri menopause. Luckily my dr was very understanding and I’m on patches. I was a horrendous mess.

Talk to them - yes, they say there’s a shortage, but hopefully that’ll be rectified soon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bet has been brill for me. I had everything removed bar one ovary, bit started getting hot flushes. Hrt worked really quickly and has made a difference to other things too.

All women over the age of 45 should have access to hrt if they are experiencing symptoms, and don’t need to have a blood test to confirm anything.

As well as managing menopause symptoms, it’s important for reducing bone loss, and the risk of heart disease and dementia.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it?

The mind boggles

It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous.

Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated.

It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment.

Misogynistic indifference, it's all over society in too many areas..

This

I’ve been lucky overall apart from flushes but why else is there so much ignorance surrounding something so natural?"

Because we men don't go through it?

Perhaps a very simplistic view but like many other issues that are detrimental to women and that should shame us as a society our governance, institutions etc are patriarchal..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For those of you who don’t know …. If you think you are peri menopausal you can have a blood test to check.

Ask if your GP surgery has a GP that specialises in or is menopause aware - it’s helps and it’s easier!

The shortage of HRT products is purely down to supply and demand…. Manufacturers can’t just up their production overnight or ship stock in as quickly as they like.

Please don’t get cross with surgery or pharmacy staff - it’s not their fault when they can’t obtain supplies to meet demand

"

I got cross at my pharmacy staff. They thought it was highly amusing that it was in short supply. Laughing loudly and chatting in front of other customers about my medication!

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Such an informative programme. I love Davina!!!

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