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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to be an escort.
Not anymore...just to make that perfectly clear.
I am a smart woman and used to also clear important customs imports paperwork.
I used to also work in banking.
I CHOSE to escort for a year and get out of what I saw as "the rat race".
So you see, it was choice and not because I had nothing more to offer 
I imagine there are many others in the same position.
I imagine there are also some who really don't have any other choice, but that is a different matter and not because they have nothing else to offer the world. |
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So then Trenton, just exactly what is it you offer this world that I cannot see for myself from your profile?
I already assume you are not a sex worker nor see eye to eye with any who are or have been sex workers. |
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Like any job, some are there by choice, some would rather be doing something else, some think they've nothing else to offer.
If you're in control of the daily logistics then it's probably an ok job.
Better than a minimum wage, zero hours Mcjob. |
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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
I've a friend who has worked in the sex industry for many years, she is a very astute business woman who earns a very good living for her family.
How does it affect me? She can afford really nice wine which she sometimes shares with me. She also has really interesting stories to tell! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
I've a friend who has worked in the sex industry for many years, she is a very astute business woman who earns a very good living for her family.
How does it affect me? She can afford really nice wine which she sometimes shares with me. She also has really interesting stories to tell! "
Why not emulate her by getting involved in the same industry?
She sounds like she is onto a winner! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
I do hope youre applying the same logic to models, fitness gurus, scientific trial participants, dancers, actors etc. All people who use their bodies to make a living. Does it makes them less as people? Choosing to do sex work doesnt mean all you have to offer the world is your body. Thats a rather blinkered view imho |
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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago
Shangri-la |
"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
I've a friend who has worked in the sex industry for many years, she is a very astute business woman who earns a very good living for her family.
How does it affect me? She can afford really nice wine which she sometimes shares with me. She also has really interesting stories to tell! Why not emulate her by getting involved in the same industry?
She sounds like she is onto a winner!"
We have occasionally talked about that possibility in the past, i have ruled it out though as it just wouldn't fit well with other areas of my life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This may be a little unbelievable but I did on six occasions do some paid male escort work, (interesting story) anyway I did it for the thrill, and it was a thrill. But as far as some sex workers go, they may have little choice or even forced into it. But I believe that many do it because they enjoy it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. "
What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?"
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts."
So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?"
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why would it mean they have nothing to offer? That’s possibly the most narrow minded offensive opinion ever!!! We know people. Very intelligent. Talented, beautiful people. That frankly make more money in a week than I earn in a month. They have nothing to be ashamed of. If I thought I would be successful I’d fucking do it.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no."
What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
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A friend of ours did it for a while to pay off a small debt (and because she wanted to see if she could).
New car and a holiday later, she quit. Dunno if she still does it, but I think on the whole she enjoyed it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Judgey much OP!
I'd rather be a sex worker than be a sl@ve working 40 - 70hrs per week for minimum wage, getting home feeling crippled after being on my feet all day and being talked down to by some 12yr old manager  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
It doesn't affect me at all. I believe they could be successful in many things with the right breaks. Some even make their own breaks and combine it with their escort work. Some enjoy the lifestyle and have no need or desire to do anything else.
It's only those forced into it that is wrong.
All of it, however, is only supplying the demand of mainly men.
How does men paying for sex affect you? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
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You are not grasping my point.
Pretty much all jobs have aspects that mean doing things you would rather not do.
That is why you get paid.
Why it is a job, not a hobby.
It really is very simple  |
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"I used to be an escort.
Not anymore...just to make that perfectly clear.
I am a smart woman and used to also clear important customs imports paperwork.
I used to also work in banking.
I CHOSE to escort for a year and get out of what I saw as "the rat race".
So you see, it was choice and not because I had nothing more to offer
I imagine there are many others in the same position.
I imagine there are also some who really don't have any other choice, but that is a different matter and not because they have nothing else to offer the world."
I’d be an escort, but no one would want to pay for me haha |
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By *ixen-XWoman
over a year ago
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Sex workers are not in the industry because they have nothing else to offer ... they are in it because they have alot to offer so quite the opposite... why not make alot of money out of something your good at  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
You are not grasping my point.
Pretty much all jobs have aspects that mean doing things you would rather not do.
That is why you get paid.
Why it is a job, not a hobby.
It really is very simple "
I get your point but you yourself said you had choice as to what jobs you took.
Like being self-employed.
Some people (though maybe self-employed) as such do not have the same choices as you in their areas of the sex industry.
Can you really speak for a porn actor/actress?
In some points maybe... but not all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
You are not grasping my point.
Pretty much all jobs have aspects that mean doing things you would rather not do.
That is why you get paid.
Why it is a job, not a hobby.
It really is very simple I get your point but you yourself said you had choice as to what jobs you took.
Like being self-employed.
Some people (though maybe self-employed) as such do not have the same choices as you in their areas of the sex industry.
Can you really speak for a porn actor/actress?
In some points maybe... but not all."
Can you?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
You are not grasping my point.
Pretty much all jobs have aspects that mean doing things you would rather not do.
That is why you get paid.
Why it is a job, not a hobby.
It really is very simple I get your point but you yourself said you had choice as to what jobs you took.
Like being self-employed.
Some people (though maybe self-employed) as such do not have the same choices as you in their areas of the sex industry.
Can you really speak for a porn actor/actress?
In some points maybe... but not all.
Can you?
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Is it in dispute here that some people do not like certain aspects of their jobs? If not...no issue.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
You are not grasping my point.
Pretty much all jobs have aspects that mean doing things you would rather not do.
That is why you get paid.
Why it is a job, not a hobby.
It really is very simple I get your point but you yourself said you had choice as to what jobs you took.
Like being self-employed.
Some people (though maybe self-employed) as such do not have the same choices as you in their areas of the sex industry.
Can you really speak for a porn actor/actress?
In some points maybe... but not all.
Can you?
Is it in dispute here that some people do not like certain aspects of their jobs? If not...no issue.
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To be honest, you have derailed your first question entirely.
You asked if sex workers only had their bodies to offer.
I answered that.
You have changed topic completely. |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Lots of escorts are Intelligent
What a ghastly question |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Lots of escorts are Intelligent
What a ghastly question "
I think he is learning this one, from a former escort |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Lots of escorts are Intelligent
What a ghastly question
I think he is learning this one, from a former escort "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy sex and being paid for doing what I like seems like a good idea.
I can't see many paying much for what my body has to offer though. What if you were to get paid for doing what you don't like in a sex job?
Would that affect you?
You mean like a taxi driver having to clean up puke?
A carer having to wipe someones arse?
Police officers informing parents of the worst happening?
Alotnof jobs have negatives they would rather not do, not just escorts. So sexual repulsion is a potential job hazard?
The same as repulsion in other jobs but an escort generally only takes bookings from things prior agreed and can always so no. What of other areas of the sex industry where such choices may not be able to be made.
Do you think it has any affect on people if they participate in things they would rather not?
I imagine porn actors do not admire everyone they entangle their bodies with.
Maybe in fact only a few?
You are not grasping my point.
Pretty much all jobs have aspects that mean doing things you would rather not do.
That is why you get paid.
Why it is a job, not a hobby.
It really is very simple I get your point but you yourself said you had choice as to what jobs you took.
Like being self-employed.
Some people (though maybe self-employed) as such do not have the same choices as you in their areas of the sex industry.
Can you really speak for a porn actor/actress?
In some points maybe... but not all.
Can you?
Is it in dispute here that some people do not like certain aspects of their jobs? If not...no issue.
To be honest, you have derailed your first question entirely.
You asked if sex workers only had their bodies to offer.
I answered that.
You have changed topic completely."
Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting."
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame."
Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything? |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?"
That's exactly what you did Saying Escorts only have their body's
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
That's exactly what you did Saying Escorts only have their body's
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If that is what you have got out of this whole thread...other participants included? |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
That's exactly what you did Saying Escorts only have their body's
If that is what you have got out of this whole thread...other participants included?"
So please elaborate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?"
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are."
I asked a question using the word diminished.
Which was answered beautifully.
No one should be allowed to make someone feel worthless because of their life choices.
BUT we are entitled to look at and consider them....agreed? |
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are. I asked a question using the word diminished.
Which was answered beautifully.
No one should be allowed to make someone feel worthless because of their life choices.
BUT we are entitled to look at and consider them....agreed?"
Please elaborate on that question.
What is it you are really trying to get at here? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are. I asked a question using the word diminished.
Which was answered beautifully.
No one should be allowed to make someone feel worthless because of their life choices.
BUT we are entitled to look at and consider them....agreed?
Please elaborate on that question.
What is it you are really trying to get at here?"
The discussion in itself stands fine enough by me with every contribution.
It's a discussion that's it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Your thoughts on the sex industry do no affect me at all! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Your thoughts on the sex industry do no affect me at all! "
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Your very 1st paragraph, wobdering, implies some sex workers are inferior and only have a body to offer in this world.
Not, are there any? You assume their are some.
As I do not believe this, it has no affect on me. I don't look at anyone as just a lump of meat.
If you mean your opinion on the subject, that doesn't affect much. Just makes me sad that arcane bigoted views exist in the world still. |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Your very 1st paragraph, wobdering, implies some sex workers are inferior and only have a body to offer in this world.
Not, are there any? You assume their are some.
As I do not believe this, it has no affect on me. I don't look at anyone as just a lump of meat.
If you mean your opinion on the subject, that doesn't affect much. Just makes me sad that arcane bigoted views exist in the world still."
Fact: There are some in the sex industry that use their bodies.
Their bodies are their earner.
You do not have to see someone as a lump of meat to recognise that!
How does it affect you? Is more in relation to the idea of someone being diminished if all they lead with is their body.
Some do not like people to lead with their bodies...they prefer the mind within the body.
Or a mixture of both.
So the real question is really about how others feel about those who lead with their bodies primarily.
Those who use their minds even among the workforce tend to be more respected/feared than those whose noticable functions involve only their bodies.
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Your thoughts on the sex industry do no affect me at all! "
Nice! |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
You sound jealous of them |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them"
Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back? |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Your thoughts on the sex industry do no affect me at all!
Nice! "
Have you read any of the discussion.
Take note of it's development. |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back?"
Have I missed the part where you’ve told us what you offer to the world? Other than a draught excluder?  |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back?
Have I missed the part where you’ve told us what you offer to the world? Other than a draught excluder? "
Do some reading. |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them"
I could never be jealous of anyone who might have to join their body to someone they don't like.
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back?
Have I missed the part where you’ve told us what you offer to the world? Other than a draught excluder? Do some reading."
I’ve read mist might have missed that bit, I read where you were answered quite detailed by a really nice friend who said she has had lots of other things to offer,
And how then you changed the direction of the thread. Which is fine!
I get you that some people do things as it’s all they seem to think they can do.
But you can say the same about potential cat walk models? What about footballers?
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back?
Have I missed the part where you’ve told us what you offer to the world? Other than a draught excluder? Do some reading.
I’ve read mist might have missed that bit, I read where you were answered quite detailed by a really nice friend who said she has had lots of other things to offer,
And how then you changed the direction of the thread. Which is fine!
I get you that some people do things as it’s all they seem to think they can do.
But you can say the same about potential cat walk models? What about footballers?
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I understand that about your friend.
I acknowledge her words about her other abilities.
But her comments on that didnt suprise me.
I know that their will be those with other strings to their bow.
I explained a few comments up what it is I am reaching for.
So I was not prepared to just stop at her comment.
Apologies if I sounded a bit harsh to you "do some reading".
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back?
Have I missed the part where you’ve told us what you offer to the world? Other than a draught excluder? Do some reading.
I’ve read mist might have missed that bit, I read where you were answered quite detailed by a really nice friend who said she has had lots of other things to offer,
And how then you changed the direction of the thread. Which is fine!
I get you that some people do things as it’s all they seem to think they can do.
But you can say the same about potential cat walk models? What about footballers?
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
You sound jealous of them Have you read the last thing I wrote two spaces back?
Have I missed the part where you’ve told us what you offer to the world? Other than a draught excluder? Do some reading.
I’ve read mist might have missed that bit, I read where you were answered quite detailed by a really nice friend who said she has had lots of other things to offer,
And how then you changed the direction of the thread. Which is fine!
I get you that some people do things as it’s all they seem to think they can do.
But you can say the same about potential cat walk models? What about footballers?
I understand that about your friend.
I acknowledge her words about her other abilities.
But her comments on that didnt suprise me.
I know that their will be those with other strings to their bow.
I explained a few comments up what it is I am reaching for.
So I was not prepared to just stop at her comment.
Apologies if I sounded a bit harsh to you "do some reading".
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No it’s fine mate it’s hard to offend me lol but we all have negatives in our chosen career path. People might think I’m a one trick pony, But I like my path ( no not a sex worker ) lol |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Im not really sure by what you mean by 'offer the world'. Peoples worth isnt or shouldnt be measured by their job.
Kindness, tolerance, thoughfulness, generosity of spirit are more important to me than someones job. |
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"OP do you think premiership footballers feel diminished because they use their bodies for work? "
I suppose a love of their career and a reasonable wage is some compensation against their detractors.
I play football so I know the amount of guile,skill,timing,fitness,calculation, anticipation, strength,courage etc that goes into it. |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Im not really sure by what you mean by 'offer the world'. Peoples worth isnt or shouldnt be measured by their job.
Kindness, tolerance, thoughfulness, generosity of spirit are more important to me than someones job."
I like that. |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Maybe it's me but detect something a little bit passive aggressive in this question? |
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over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Maybe it's me but detect something a little bit passive aggressive in this question?"
You mean the sun doesn't always shine? |
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An acquaintance of mine is a pro-Domme. She has a degree and a masters in psychology, which she uses when dealing with her subs.
It is extremely lucrative work as well as being work she enjoys and work that fits around her family life.
It's certainly not something she does because she can't do anything else or has "nothing else to offer the world"  .
As with anything, some do it from necessity, others from choice. Making huge assumptions about any large group of people is rarely helpful though.
If I believed someone was being trafficked or there was modern sl*very involved then I'd report those suspicions on the modern sl*very helpline (in fairness since I don't visit sex workers my reports have tended to be about car wash workers), but if someone is a sex worker by choice how should that choice affect me? |
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over a year ago
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"OP do you think premiership footballers feel diminished because they use their bodies for work? I suppose a love of their career and a reasonable wage is some compensation against their detractors.
I play football so I know the amount of guile,skill,timing,fitness,calculation, anticipation, strength,courage etc that goes into it."
Yeah, but what about the opposition they don’t want to play against? Or the fact they are forced to go to training? Or the fact that they are just there for other peoples entertainment? |
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"OP do you think premiership footballers feel diminished because they use their bodies for work? I suppose a love of their career and a reasonable wage is some compensation against their detractors.
I play football so I know the amount of guile,skill,timing,fitness,calculation, anticipation, strength,courage etc that goes into it.
Yeah, but what about the opposition they don’t want to play against? Or the fact they are forced to go to training? Or the fact that they are just there for other peoples entertainment? "
The first two things may build character.
Some people like to amaze people with their skills.
To entertain.
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over a year ago
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"OP do you think premiership footballers feel diminished because they use their bodies for work? I suppose a love of their career and a reasonable wage is some compensation against their detractors.
I play football so I know the amount of guile,skill,timing,fitness,calculation, anticipation, strength,courage etc that goes into it.
Yeah, but what about the opposition they don’t want to play against? Or the fact they are forced to go to training? Or the fact that they are just there for other peoples entertainment? The first two things may build character.
Some people like to amaze people with their skills.
To entertain.
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I’m sure that can be true for people in the adult industry too. |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
How about those ppl who are in the sex industry due to life events, those who are forced Into, through being traded, or addiction, im sure these ppl have so much more to offer than just there bodies,
Or those who believe that they only have there bodies to offer, and nothing more, |
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"OP do you think premiership footballers feel diminished because they use their bodies for work? I suppose a love of their career and a reasonable wage is some compensation against their detractors.
I play football so I know the amount of guile,skill,timing,fitness,calculation, anticipation, strength,courage etc that goes into it.
Yeah, but what about the opposition they don’t want to play against? Or the fact they are forced to go to training? Or the fact that they are just there for other peoples entertainment? The first two things may build character.
Some people like to amaze people with their skills.
To entertain.
I’m sure that can be true for people in the adult industry too. "
I wish they would state that though in their promotional leaflets... |
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are. I asked a question using the word diminished.
Which was answered beautifully.
No one should be allowed to make someone feel worthless because of their life choices.
BUT we are entitled to look at and consider them....agreed?
Please elaborate on that question.
What is it you are really trying to get at here? The discussion in itself stands fine enough by me with every contribution.
It's a discussion that's it. "
In fact it is more than how others may try to make another person feel it's primarily about how a particular individual may end up feeling about themselves. |
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are. I asked a question using the word diminished.
Which was answered beautifully.
No one should be allowed to make someone feel worthless because of their life choices.
BUT we are entitled to look at and consider them....agreed?
Please elaborate on that question.
What is it you are really trying to get at here? The discussion in itself stands fine enough by me with every contribution.
It's a discussion that's it. In fact it is more than how others may try to make another person feel it's primarily about how a particular individual may end up feeling about themselves."
The affect on you? Is a sideshow. |
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"That view doesn't affect me.
I think it's sad that sex work is still so stigmatised
Often by the very people who use the services of such workers..
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Not guilty! |
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OP had thorough answers from a previous sex worker....myself.
They were not what he wanted to hear so he turned the question at every opportunity.
He tries to word his original question different but it is still the same one.
He has has alotnof answers from alot of different people but nobody will agree with his way of thinking.
So he persists.
Trenton, twist your wording however you wish, but as I posted earlier.
It will NEVER be ok to diminish someone for the career choice.
Nobody holds any position to judge what they truly do not understand.
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"OP had thorough answers from a previous sex worker....myself.
They were not what he wanted to hear so he turned the question at every opportunity.
He tries to word his original question different but it is still the same one.
He has has alotnof answers from alot of different people but nobody will agree with his way of thinking.
So he persists.
Trenton, twist your wording however you wish, but as I posted earlier.
It will NEVER be ok to diminish someone for the career choice.
Nobody holds any position to judge what they truly do not understand.
He without sin should cast the first stone "
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"Because if someone has only their body to offer in this life (or feels so) are they or can they be diminished by that?
I have been looking at what everyone is writing and find it interesting.
No. They cannot be diminished by it.
Nobody is entitled to make someone else feel "less" or "worthless" because of their career choices.
The only people who would do that are uneducated themselves on the subject and judgemental, and in my opinion, worse than the person they are judging and trying to shame. Trying to shame?
Judging?
No discussion can be had on any subject it seems.
Why attribute the lowest intents to everything?
You used the word diminished, maybe look it up.
Or I will save you the hassle:
Diminish;
VERB
If you diminish someone or something, you talk about them or treat them in a way that makes them appear less important than they really are. I asked a question using the word diminished.
Which was answered beautifully.
No one should be allowed to make someone feel worthless because of their life choices.
BUT we are entitled to look at and consider them....agreed?
Please elaborate on that question.
What is it you are really trying to get at here? The discussion in itself stands fine enough by me with every contribution.
It's a discussion that's it. In fact it is more than how others may try to make another person feel it's primarily about how a particular individual may end up feeling about themselves."
So you have changed the question again 
I feel fine btw, I made good money and had alot of fun along the way.
My body is no longer capable of the work needed due to a disability. Otherwise, I may still consider doing the job.
I got out of it 7 months ago and cannot say I feel any regret in my job choice.
It was sure as hell better than the run of mill, break your back to still be poor kind of jobs. |
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"OP had thorough answers from a previous sex worker....myself.
They were not what he wanted to hear so he turned the question at every opportunity.
He tries to word his original question different but it is still the same one.
He has has alotnof answers from alot of different people but nobody will agree with his way of thinking.
So he persists.
Trenton, twist your wording however you wish, but as I posted earlier.
It will NEVER be ok to diminish someone for the career choice.
Nobody holds any position to judge what they truly do not understand.
He without sin should cast the first stone "
Your answer didnt cover my complete thoughts...so I continued.
I have acknowledged your other achievements during a chat with Tom on the thread. |
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"OP had thorough answers from a previous sex worker....myself.
They were not what he wanted to hear so he turned the question at every opportunity.
He tries to word his original question different but it is still the same one.
He has has alotnof answers from alot of different people but nobody will agree with his way of thinking.
So he persists.
Trenton, twist your wording however you wish, but as I posted earlier.
It will NEVER be ok to diminish someone for the career choice.
Nobody holds any position to judge what they truly do not understand.
He without sin should cast the first stone Your answer didnt cover my complete thoughts...so I continued.
I have acknowledged your other achievements during a chat with Tom on the thread."
So are we all supposed to sit and answer all of your ponderings?
No thanks.
I have better things to do.
Where is the next kiss, fuck, avoid thread?
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"OP had thorough answers from a previous sex worker....myself.
They were not what he wanted to hear so he turned the question at every opportunity.
He tries to word his original question different but it is still the same one.
He has has alotnof answers from alot of different people but nobody will agree with his way of thinking.
So he persists.
Trenton, twist your wording however you wish, but as I posted earlier.
It will NEVER be ok to diminish someone for the career choice.
Nobody holds any position to judge what they truly do not understand.
He without sin should cast the first stone Your answer didnt cover my complete thoughts...so I continued.
I have acknowledged your other achievements during a chat with Tom on the thread."
If people come onto this thread and I feel to answer them I will.
Others I will leave as comments for people to read.
It's interesting to hear people on this subject...the same as many others.
This is not a sacred subject is any?
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"That view doesn't affect me.
I think it's sad that sex work is still so stigmatised
Often by the very people who use the services of such workers..
Not guilty!"
Beg to differ if how you've phrased the OP is your true thoughts on the worth of people in that sector?
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Some may well be but it's still a skill or talent or something to be proud of. Why is a body seen as anything less than the ability to do maths or science or wash windows.
People are models, social media influencers. Sex working is still a job.
It doesn't affect me at all. My body and sex skills are shit so I'm glad they have skills that I don't. |
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"That view doesn't affect me.
I think it's sad that sex work is still so stigmatised
Often by the very people who use the services of such workers..
Not guilty!
Beg to differ if how you've phrased the OP is your true thoughts on the worth of people in that sector?
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I Wonder...
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"Judgey much OP!
I'd rather be a sex worker than be a sl@ve working 40 - 70hrs per week for minimum wage, getting home feeling crippled after being on my feet all day and being talked down to by some 12yr old manager "
Hmm, that was my last job and I'd rather have been doing anything else |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Some may well be but it's still a skill or talent or something to be proud of. Why is a body seen as anything less than the ability to do maths or science or wash windows.
People are models, social media influencers. Sex working is still a job.
It doesn't affect me at all. My body and sex skills are shit so I'm glad they have skills that I don't. "
This runs along the lines I mentioned earlier on how we value different career choices.
Those of primarily (to outside observers) the body
Those of primarily the mind.
Those of both mind and body. |
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How many people work in the Adult Industry because it’s lucrative and they’ve made a conscious decision that it’s a step on the career path to where they want to end up? To pay for their education… where they end up as a Doctor, surgeon, lawyer, research scientist, accountant…. Anything. Not sure what OP is driving at with the initial question. |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
Does anyone really have anything to offer the world except their bodies? I can’t think of any career that doesn’t require a body. |
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"How many people work in the Adult Industry because it’s lucrative and they’ve made a conscious decision that it’s a step on the career path to where they want to end up? To pay for their education… where they end up as a Doctor, surgeon, lawyer, research scientist, accountant…. Anything. Not sure what OP is driving at with the initial question. "
The initial wondering develops into a discussion.
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Does anyone really have anything to offer the world except their bodies? I can’t think of any career that doesn’t require a body. "
Possibly a naked body in some form doing things for themselves/others
DAH DAH DAH...that's the sound you get in certain programmes when something is about to happen! |
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"How many people work in the Adult Industry because it’s lucrative and they’ve made a conscious decision that it’s a step on the career path to where they want to end up? To pay for their education… where they end up as a Doctor, surgeon, lawyer, research scientist, accountant…. Anything. Not sure what OP is driving at with the initial question. The initial wondering develops into a discussion.
Thanks for your contribution."
A discussion of what, though?
Your initial question / musing / whatever has been answered several times and yet we're still going over the same ground ad infinitum |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Does anyone really have anything to offer the world except their bodies? I can’t think of any career that doesn’t require a body. Possibly a naked body in some form doing things for themselves/others
DAH DAH DAH...that's the sound you get in certain programmes when something is about to happen!"
If anyone new has something to comment here at least read all the thread.
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?
Does anyone really have anything to offer the world except their bodies? I can’t think of any career that doesn’t require a body. "
Not you.
I know you commented before and your last point is valid. |
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"That view doesn't affect me.
I think it's sad that sex work is still so stigmatised
Often by the very people who use the services of such workers..
Not guilty!
Beg to differ if how you've phrased the OP is your true thoughts on the worth of people in that sector?
I Wonder...
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Being a bit vague which is unusual for you..
Is that what you think then? |
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"how many people are in the sex industry because they have nothing else to offer the world except their bodies?
How does that affect you?"
To be fair have you seen the money in it? Especially during lockdown all I seen on the news were articles about how much money women were making on that popular site, if I knew I could bring in over 15-20k a week I’d do the same lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How many people work in the Adult Industry because it’s lucrative and they’ve made a conscious decision that it’s a step on the career path to where they want to end up? To pay for their education… where they end up as a Doctor, surgeon, lawyer, research scientist, accountant…. Anything. Not sure what OP is driving at with the initial question. The initial wondering develops into a discussion.
Thanks for your contribution.
A discussion of what, though?
Your initial question / musing / whatever has been answered several times and yet we're still going over the same ground ad infinitum"
It is a discussion that expanded due to a man having more thoughts on a matter than one or two.
If you check all the previous commentators it should together make some sense.
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