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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me. |
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me."
Ask your wife if she thinks it's such a complex thing and if she can trust you. She can judge you.
Its not bigotry to not want to meet married people behind their spouses back. It's a preference as to who people choose to have sex with. Get over it and get over yourself.
Also slightly crass to copy from someone's profile (I assume) regardless of how butt hurt it makes you feel.
I think the true meaning behind your outrage is it hit a nerve. You know it's cheating but hate to be called out by it...and by a woman too... Exercising her right to choose who she meets. The outrage! |
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me."
Confusing.
So are you cheating, or are you moaning about cheats?? |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
Tatooine |
So you are saying cheating and lying is ok?
If you both consent and know what the other is up to and are both happy, this is not cheating.
If you are actualy going behind your partners back and lying to them, this makes you a lying cheat.
You always have a choice to lie or be truthful. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Erm .. what?
I'm confused 
Are you saying that people shouldn't judge cheaters?
Absolutely. Cheating takes on many forms btw."
OK
Well you do you.
And everyone can choose who they want to meet.
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"Erm .. what?
I'm confused
Are you saying that people shouldn't judge cheaters?
Absolutely. Cheating takes on many forms btw."
All of them dishonest and underhanded.
Do you like being treated in a dishonest and underhanded way?
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me.
Ask your wife if she thinks it's such a complex thing and if she can trust you. She can judge you.
Its not bigotry to not want to meet married people behind their spouses back. It's a preference as to who people choose to have sex with. Get over it and get over yourself.
Also slightly crass to copy from someone's profile (I assume) regardless of how butt hurt it makes you feel.
I think the true meaning behind your outrage is it hit a nerve. You know it's cheating but hate to be called out by it...and by a woman too... Exercising her right to choose who she meets. The outrage! "
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me.
Ask your wife if she thinks it's such a complex thing and if she can trust you. She can judge you.
Its not bigotry to not want to meet married people behind their spouses back. It's a preference as to who people choose to have sex with. Get over it and get over yourself.
Also slightly crass to copy from someone's profile (I assume) regardless of how butt hurt it makes you feel.
I think the true meaning behind your outrage is it hit a nerve. You know it's cheating but hate to be called out by it...and by a woman too... Exercising her right to choose who she meets. The outrage!
Thank you for the judgement. "
You're welcome. It's not the insult you assume it to be. |
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me.
Confusing.
So are you cheating, or are you moaning about cheats??"
I am loyal to my family. I also understand that after many years, people’s approach and views drift but the central core function of family remains.
I am a cheater as defined by some. I think though that they would expect me to take so much more away from a much more broader life, simply to remove the label. |
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Erm .. what?
I'm confused
Are you saying that people shouldn't judge cheaters?
Absolutely. Cheating takes on many forms btw.
OK
Well you do you.
And everyone can choose who they want to meet.
Happy Fabbing "
Tooo right.
Happy Fabbing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't judge as it's not my business. But I personally just don't want to be involved in any way if someone in the relationship is unaware. It's drama I don't want to be in. And for my own guilt also. It's personal preference as is everything else on this site. Some people will go for it, some people won't. And it's not wrong for having the preference to not be involved  |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
Tatooine |
You think that people who are against lyers and cheats are bigots?
If you a lying and cheating on someone, no matter your reasons, that does make you a lyer and you are taken the choice out of someone elses hands to be with you.
You always have a choice the be faithful, to honest with the person you are with and if the relationship your are in is that bad, walk away from it. |
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If the boot was on thr other foot and your wife was posting this (although she wouldn't because women who cheat tend to just get on with it instead of justifying it and whinging about people not meeting them) how would you genuinely feel?
It would be easier for her to meet men. She could meet every night if she wanted to. But the core of the family is strong.
You'd be OK with it? Honestly? |
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"Erm .. what?
I'm confused
Are you saying that people shouldn't judge cheaters?
Absolutely. Cheating takes on many forms btw.
OK
Well you do you.
And everyone can choose who they want to meet.
Happy Fabbing
Tooo right.
Happy Fabbing"
Except when they say they don't want to meet cheaters. Then they get called out as bigots.
The hypocrisy |
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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
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"I don't judge as it's not my business. But I personally just don't want to be involved in any way if someone in the relationship is unaware. It's drama I don't want to be in. And for my own guilt also. It's personal preference as is everything else on this site. Some people will go for it, some people won't. And it's not wrong for having the preference to not be involved "
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"I don’t see it as bigotry to be honest OP.  "
I am not calling those who are honest bigots.
If you were to sit with a religious leader, most choices made on this site would be a matter of sin. I am talking about those who look at a single life choice of married/partnered people in isolation of everything else and judging them. Very simple and easy to do.
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Always amazes me why people need to seek the approval of a bunch of strangers. Just do what you do! Posting threads like this will invite judgment I’m afraid. "
Not looking for approval but wanting to call out those self righteous individuals who judge on a site like this. So many nice and liberal people on here and then some real special ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me."
I appreciate the quote from my profile. Not to mention the irony of you judging my values. 
Next time I'd appreciate it if you would at least credit me  |
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"Always amazes me why people need to seek the approval of a bunch of strangers. Just do what you do! Posting threads like this will invite judgment I’m afraid.
Not looking for approval but wanting to call out those self righteous individuals who judge on a site like this. So many nice and liberal people on here and then some real special ones."
It will make no difference I’m afraid. People still will |
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"Cheaters are cheaters regardless of the shit reasons they give!!
Thanks for the judgement."
Your welcome!! And am not ashamed to of judged cheaters.. the pain is unbearable when you find out not to mention what it done to my kids. We are 10 years down the line and are doing great now. But that shit sticks with you!! |
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"I don't judge as it's not my business. But I personally just don't want to be involved in any way if someone in the relationship is unaware. It's drama I don't want to be in. And for my own guilt also. It's personal preference as is everything else on this site. Some people will go for it, some people won't. And it's not wrong for having the preference to not be involved "
Absolutely, but adding a label is like labelling many other things, just ask out LGBTQ friends... judgement, make sure you are squeaky clean before you throw that stone. Judgemental Married people need to go back and reread the book under which the took those vows... |
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Do you understand who gets hurt by cheating? It’s not the ones consensually making the choice to do it. Have you seen the toll it can take on the person that is clueless as to what their spouse is doing? They may not know exactly what is going on but they often have an idea that something is not right and that leads to self doubt, worry, stress and unhappiness. That’s before they even found out that this wonderful life you have built together, that you don’t want to give up has meant so little that you can lie to them everyday in the guise of protection. The years of trust you have built together was bullshit.
Us bigots have decided we don’t want to be a part of causing that hurt to another human being. I for one cannot take the guilt that comes with that ever again.
I don’t judge people for cheating, I’ve been there and would be a complete hypocrite if I did. I’m always happy to talk to anyone who needs a friend to offload to and is looking for a way to make things better. I will not however, be a part of the deception. And while I don’t judge I have absolutely no time for anyone who can’t admit what it is they are doing, even to their selves, and then publicly tries to defend it because some bigot has put someone else’s feelings first. |
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me.
I appreciate the quote from my profile. Not to mention the irony of you judging my values.
Next time I'd appreciate it if you would at least credit me "
You seem to do a great job crediting yourself. |
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me.
I appreciate the quote from my profile. Not to mention the irony of you judging my values.
Next time I'd appreciate it if you would at least credit me
You seem to do a great job crediting yourself."
As I said before.....crass. |
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So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?! |
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" the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
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By your interpretation then, anyone who doesn't want to fuck an old, fat, black woman but politely says "sorry, not my thing" is a cunt and should fuck off?!! 
You obviously don't understand what "passive aggressive" means. How are you with "entitled?"  |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
Tatooine |
"I don't judge as it's not my business. But I personally just don't want to be involved in any way if someone in the relationship is unaware. It's drama I don't want to be in. And for my own guilt also. It's personal preference as is everything else on this site. Some people will go for it, some people won't. And it's not wrong for having the preference to not be involved
Absolutely, but adding a label is like labelling many other things, just ask out LGBTQ friends... judgement, make sure you are squeaky clean before you throw that stone. Judgemental Married people need to go back and reread the book under which the took those vows..."
Are you saying a cheat should be part of the LGBTQ cumunity? |
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"Always amazes me why people need to seek the approval of a bunch of strangers. Just do what you do! Posting threads like this will invite judgment I’m afraid. "
I don't get the need for validation either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is such a bizarre rant - attention seeking at it's very worst.
What do you expect after Calling people bigots?
You're not going to get any validation here OP
I feel sorry for your family - let's hope they don't get hurt.
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?! "
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
"This is such a bizarre rant - attention seeking at it's very worst.
What do you expect after Calling people bigots?
You're not going to get any validation here OP
I feel sorry for your family - let's hope they don't get hurt.
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"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?!
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
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No. Just do your thing. I know absolutely loads of married men on here and on the forums. They just do their thing and don’t shout about it. |
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"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?!
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
No. Just do your thing. I know absolutely loads of married men on here and on the forums. They just do their thing and don’t shout about it. "
It must be a full moon |
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By *..First OP Man
over a year ago
london |
" the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
By your interpretation then, anyone who doesn't want to fuck an old, fat, black woman but politely says "sorry, not my thing" is a cunt and should fuck off?!!
You obviously don't understand what "passive aggressive" means. How are you with "entitled?" "
The approach is largely one of, “No Thank You” as that list of judgemental slurs are equally unwelcome as is your assumed label of Entitled.
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"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?!
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
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Yes. It's still stealing regardless of the motive. The repurcissions may be less severe given the circumstances.
But you are not starving. You are horny. It is not a right to have sex. You will not die if you don't fulfill your urges.
You entered in to a marriage 'forsaking all others'. Yes it is perhaps a simplistic view of a spinster with a cat but at the very base of this argument are your vows that you made to the woman you love (I assume you still love her).
And what of her? I note you have not answered questions about how you think she would view your actions or how you would feel should she see men behind your back. Why is tht? |
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"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?!
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
No. Just do your thing. I know absolutely loads of married men on here and on the forums. They just do their thing and don’t shout about it.
It must be a full moon "
Bit tetchy on the forums today! Might do a secret service later |
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"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?!
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
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Of course it's still stealing!
Why are you judging people but complaining that people judge?
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I'm not "sorry it's not my thing"
I'm "go fuck yourself it's not my thing"
One read of my profile will explain why. I can expand if you want me to and tell you being lied to and cheated on left me with PTSD, a breakdown, massive trust issues and ..... chlamydia. Lucky fucking me eh! And that was before I arrived here. The profile text is the product of a relationship with someone from here.
You wanna call people out on not wanting to meet cheats? You gotta ask yourself why. |
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me.
Confusing.
So are you cheating, or are you moaning about cheats??
I am loyal to my family. I also understand that after many years, people’s approach and views drift but the central core function of family remains.
I am a cheater as defined by some. I think though that they would expect me to take so much more away from a much more broader life, simply to remove the label. "
So your actions are out of a sense of loyalty to your family?,
Have you asked them if they would prefer honesty rather than loyalty?
Or have you decided that for them on their behalf??
Not judging, just asking the question OP. |
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Yes. It's still stealing regardless of the motive. The repurcissions may be less severe given the circumstances.
But you are not starving. You are horny. It is not a right to have sex. You will not die if you don't fulfill your urges.
You entered in to a marriage 'forsaking all others'. Yes it is perhaps a simplistic view of a spinster with a cat but at the very base of this argument are your vows that you made to the woman you love (I assume you still love her).
And what of her? I note you have not answered questions about how you think she would view your actions or how you would feel should she see men behind your back. Why is tht? "
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" the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
By your interpretation then, anyone who doesn't want to fuck an old, fat, black woman but politely says "sorry, not my thing" is a cunt and should fuck off?!!
You obviously don't understand what "passive aggressive" means. How are you with "entitled?"
The approach is largely one of, “No Thank You” as that list of judgemental slurs are equally unwelcome as is your assumed label of Entitled.
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But you appear entitled!
If someone doesn't want to meet me for ANY reason, that is their prerogative, their body 100% their choice who they share it with. I'm not owed a why not? Or to call them bigots...unless I felt entitled.
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"I don't judge as it's not my business. But I personally just don't want to be involved in any way if someone in the relationship is unaware. It's drama I don't want to be in. And for my own guilt also. It's personal preference as is everything else on this site. Some people will go for it, some people won't. And it's not wrong for having the preference to not be involved
Absolutely, but adding a label is like labelling many other things, just ask out LGBTQ friends... judgement, make sure you are squeaky clean before you throw that stone. Judgemental Married people need to go back and reread the book under which the took those vows..."
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"Cheaters are cheaters regardless of the shit reasons they give!!
Thanks for the judgement."
I will judge. My ex-husband cheated on me. We had been together for 20 years & had 2 children. I had no idea. My life changed overnight. 9 years later my kids are still messed up with the eldest having private counselling. I’m still on anti-depressants. I had no trust & questioned my worth.
If you’re happy to potentially get caught & blow your family apart then you crack on.
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"So op. If you were in a game of cards and you lost it, then found out that the person who won was cheating. You would think that OK?
Or do you think if you was the winner knowing you cheated that would be OK to?!
I would like to understand the motive for cheating. Is stealing a loaf of bread to feed the hungry child is still stealing.
I will never leave my family and so will continue to live a double life. I hope to find others of similar circumstances and leave the righteous to thier devices.
I think the pack have spoken, I am obviously wrong.
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Is that you not having your cake and eating it? What about your family having an informed choice on their future and happiness?
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I'm also incredibly confused as to how respecting, showing loyalty and honesty to your spouse is a "shallow value"
How communicating openly, how giving your partner the information they need to make a decision regarding the family future is a "shallow value"
Surely keeping the family together through lies, deception and one half living a double life is in fact.... the "shallow value"
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"Just getting it off my chest.
The dumb shit people post:
“For the married men: If she's into it, it's swinging. If she's clueless it's cheating.”
If You are so fortunate that after many years married/ committed with children, you and your partner are sexually aligned. Assuming that those with so much invested in a life would throw that way so that they are not “cheating” tells a lot about your shallow values.
BTW, there are many many many people who will stand in judgement of your choices regardless of you both consenting...
Sex and intimate enjoyment of someone’s company is a complex thing and trust and a nonjudgmental approach is important.
Anyone standing in judgement or the passive aggressive judgement of “sorry it’s not my thing” really need to wind their necks in or quietly fuck off.
Sorry but bigotry and half-cocked values bemuse me."
I wish these threads would quietly fuck off too.
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Astounding truly! If you’re here and meeting others you are cheating, is a fumble really worth losing your family for? Everyone has the right to be happy and eventually your wife will find out they always do! |
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"Always amazes me why people need to seek the approval of a bunch of strangers. Just do what you do! Posting threads like this will invite judgment I’m afraid.
Not looking for approval but wanting to call out those self righteous individuals who judge on a site like this. So many nice and liberal people on here and then some real special ones."
Agree totally with the post one above but there's a certain irony in you OP judging others to be bigots (totally wrong description btw) for not liking what you and others have done..
Why these threads are done and it's nigh on always a bloke who does them is beyond me, just crack on with stuff.. |
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat? "
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat?
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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Even if we lived in a society where people could openly discuss such things with family etc that doesn't mean everyone would do, people have the right to maintain privacy..
Your clutching at straws going off on the tangents you have.. |
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat?
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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It isn't called political correctness, it is called honesty with your loved ones, and treating them with dignity and respect.
What gives you the right to decide for them what their values are??
Is paying the bills of higher value than honesty, trust and respect??
Are they OP?? |
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat?
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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YOUR WIFE isn't being given the choice to consent though is she, and neither are your children. You're really putting the PTA, the local vicar and people's parents on the same level as a spouse? Please |
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"Always amazes me why people need to seek the approval of a bunch of strangers. Just do what you do! Posting threads like this will invite judgment I’m afraid.
Not looking for approval but wanting to call out those self righteous individuals who judge on a site like this. So many nice and liberal people on here and then some real special ones.
Agree totally with the post one above but there's a certain irony in you OP judging others to be bigots (totally wrong description btw) for not liking what you and others have done..
Why these threads are done and it's nigh on always a bloke who does them is beyond me, just crack on with stuff.."
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat?
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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In my mind those questions are the only ones that matter ... the first one shows a personal honesty and the second shows a personal responsibility.
We are all judged daily and we all judge ... but we do have to live with our personal decisions and their outcomes. If other people don't want to be party to our decisions or those outcomes then I really don't think that is bigotry. |
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"My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
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You're comparing apples to pears a bit there OP. I’m here as a single woman with no ties to anyone so technically i can do as i please. Does everyone need to know i’m on a swingers site? No. Just like everyone doesn't need to know what colour my daily urinations are.
When it comes to cheating though you should just get on with it tbh, find people in the same boat as you and find comfort where you can. Trying to force people to accept cheating is a strange fight to pick. |
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat?
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
In my mind those questions are the only ones that matter ... the first one shows a personal honesty and the second shows a personal responsibility.
*** We are all judged daily and we all judge ... but we do have to live with our personal decisions and their outcomes. If other people don't want to be party to our decisions or those outcomes then I really don't think that is bigotry. ***"
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I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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"Tried to be honest" ? With a bunch of strangers of the internet ...
Perhaps you should try that tactic with the people that actually matter , in this instance your wife .
You seem so convinced that your stance is the righteous one yet you're failing to get much support on here.... and I suspect anywhere else.
Posing as the victim of "bigotry" and comparing your situation to the LGBTQ's struggle is quite insulting really when what you are is just plain horny and deceitful to the people that counts.
As others have said, do you and don't feel entitled to sympathy. Accept a "no thank you" for what it is, a personal choice . |
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This is the most bizar rant I've ever heard you want people to tell you your not a cheat because sexually you've drifted apart from your spouse so it doesn't count as cheating? Is that what your getting at? Because a cheat is defined as someone who is emotionally or sexually unfaithful to a partner you are in a close relationship with... So if you are seeking out or have had sex with another person to your wife without her knowlage then you have cheated, that's not passing judgment on you that's a fact of the situation? And everyone has the right to choose if they would like or are against sleeping with a married man, again that is not judging somone its simply having a preference |
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"OP firstly do you think you're a liar and a cheat?
And secondly, if your family found out will they think you're a liar and a cheat?
Yes&Yes
Yes&Yes
And they would stand in judgement.
Sadly most will go, “exactly!”
My thoughts are that those who are here, how public is that? Does the PTA know, your local vicar, your mom and dad? Why not? If what you are doing is so normal and perfect , why not? You are both consenting ... everything should be dandy.
I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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For those of us that swing rather than cheat anyone who is directly impacted by what we do knows about it. My mother doesn’t need to know who I fuck just like she doesn’t need to know the ins and outs of every vanilla relationship I had. The PTA and vicar have no rights to know anything about my private life because it’s private. My husband and life long partner however does need to know and has the right to know not just who I fuck but every detail of who I talk to, may want to fuck, or absolutely can’t stand because he is affected by what I do. My friends who look after my children while we meet know because I trust them and we have an honest relationship. At some point if my children (when they are much older) if it impacts their life then they will know whatever is appropriate for them to know. People who matter, whom we love and whom are impacted by our choices absolutely have the right to know. That is the difference between swinging and cheating. Whatever your reasons are, lying to someone to proclaim to love and don’t want to lose is wrong and there is no defending that. |
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I have tried to be honest here. It is clear that there are forms of political correctness everywhere.
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OP, I don't think you fully understand the words/phrases you use as people not wanting to meet married people has nothing to do with political correctness.
When I first started 15 years ago a man's marital status didn't concern me. An irate phone call from a wife, being asked to shower in the wife's shower gel and using her perfume, cancelled meetings because the wife wanted to go to Waitrose etc made me not meet married men.
Where's the political correctness in that? |
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