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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
west here ford shire |
I am disgusted by these thugs today, there is a way to protest and what these thugs did, is not the right way!!
Sorry I think there should be points losses by united as a fine isn’t the right way to stop this mentality |
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over a year ago
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I'm not sure the club should be held accountable for a group of people breaking and entering / trespassing. Although I haven't caught up with the whole story yet, I've just seen the headlines so maybe I've missed something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They've been doing it the "right way" since they Glaziers took over. What difference did it make... none. They were let in the stadium big deal. Get off your high horse.
Name one single protest that got anywhere without making a statement.
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I agree that the trespassing wasn't on and it should have been a peaceful protest but I disagree with the points deduction. The club itself didn't organise the protest much less the manager and the players. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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one of my best friends lives near salford, and the protests near the hotel were directly behind her apartments.
apparently there was no shortage of violence, harassment towards women walking past, and damage to nearby properties. I haven't seen any of that reported.
I actually agree with the premise of protesting (in the right way) against greedy owners / football for the fans etc... I can't agree with thugs basically hijacking that for an excuse to have a violent day out on the beer. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it"
as the Man Utd fans sing were Man Utd we do what we want in reference to not to defend there fa cup title years ago  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a Newcastle fan this shows the build up that the big 6 get
Nufc fans protest against an owner who for 14 years has sold our best players, let the club go backwards, hired inept manager after inept manager, and as said during the match today, Bruce is doing a good job as we sit 17th
Nufc fans are lucky to have Mike Ashley
MUFC fans protest against an owner who for 15 years have let the club go stay relatively the same, hired worlds class managers and spent millions on world class players, Ole needs to go theyre only 2nd
MUFC fans we stand by you and how horribly you have been treat
The media bias and arse licking of the so call big 6 has to be the main stoppage of the ESL fallout, its enough to make you sick, ironically the same journalists saying the saudi takeover is criminal for Nufc are now saying they need to come in and rescue Mufc
And they say wrestlings fake
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Bolton for one "
That wasn't due to covid though according to Google. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Bolton for one
That wasn't due to covid though according to Google."
They didnt carry out the contractual obligation to play the game. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Bolton for one
That wasn't due to covid though according to Google.
They didnt carry out the contractual obligation to play the game."
Aye but the post I was replying to specifically said due to covid. At any rate both clubs, the police and the premier league agreed to postpone the match so I don't see a point deduction happening. |
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I was sat waiting for the game to start....Liverpool supporter here....total disgrace all the violence at the ground and also out side the players hotel, no need for it, protest yes but do it peacefully!! Will a massive fine make any difference??...I don't think it will  |
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"I was sat waiting for the game to start....Liverpool supporter here....total disgrace all the violence at the ground and also out side the players hotel, no need for it, protest yes but do it peacefully!! Will a massive fine make any difference??...I don't think it will "
Also Liverpool fan.. not bothered game didn’t go ahead.
All for any peaceful protest - but when the minority go the other way and take it beyond all present become culpable on the eyes of the public sadly.
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Bolton for one
That wasn't due to covid though according to Google.
They didnt carry out the contractual obligation to play the game.
Aye but the post I was replying to specifically said due to covid. At any rate both clubs, the police and the premier league agreed to postpone the match so I don't see a point deduction happening. "
Course not.
Its utd. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"United will not get punished
Certain other clubs would have
United can pretty much do what they like
They are basically untouchable
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Sadly true but in all fairness not there fault in this case.
I am sure the Glaziers will ignore it anyway.The way to get to them is for nobody to attend matches after lockdown the would understand that |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
west here ford shire |
"LUHG
Violence required to rid them
Lots of females at the protest,bullshit they were threatening innocent people "
A policeman had his face slashed.
He was doing his job, just like anyone of us, he went to work and was slashed in the face by a broken bottle!
How can anyone condone behaviour of this nature?? |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL"
they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
west here ford shire |
"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine "
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished "
and in the case of the spl teams it was themselves who broke COVID rules and not the fans my opinion would be that to deduct Man Utd points would be hard as it was no fault of the club that the game wasn’t played but I agree the trouble causing thugs should be dealt with |
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I have zero interest in football, but from what I saw on the news it looked like a bunch of knobheads behaving like knobheads. Particularly the ones who have gone there carrying plastic bags full of booze. |
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Mindless animals Man Utd will be ashamed of them and anyone identified will be banned from old Trafford for life . Every club as it’s hardcore of idiots things like this are out of the clubs control |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"Gmp attacking fans,two sides to every story,look deeper than the bullshit bbc "
Obviously a bias opinion, please don’t take offence, but a man doing his job was attacked and wounded by a broken bottle.
You cannot in anyway say this is bullshit |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished "
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year. "
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned "
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others. "
You dont get deducted points for breaking covid rules |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others.
You dont get deducted points for breaking covid rules"
I get that. My point was that if United should be deducted points because of a section of their fan's behaviour it should apply across the board. Point deductions for public health breaches, they should also be introduced for the racial abuse directed towards players on social media. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others.
You dont get deducted points for breaking covid rules
I get that. My point was that if United should be deducted points because of a section of their fan's behaviour it should apply across the board. Point deductions for public health breaches, they should also be introduced for the racial abuse directed towards players on social media. "
It's more to do with the game getting called off.
Normally if that happens you get punished. |
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over a year ago
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"I am disgusted by these thugs today, there is a way to protest and what these thugs did, is not the right way!!
Sorry I think there should be points losses by united as a fine isn’t the right way to stop this mentality "
Why do you call them thugs? Most of there were peaceful protesters |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others.
You dont get deducted points for breaking covid rules
I get that. My point was that if United should be deducted points because of a section of their fan's behaviour it should apply across the board. Point deductions for public health breaches, they should also be introduced for the racial abuse directed towards players on social media.
It's more to do with the game getting called off.
Normally if that happens you get punished."
I understand that but it was beyond the control of the club. Had the club been the reason for the match being postponed I could see reasoning for a sanction.
I know that many will say that the reason a points deduction doesn't happen is because it's United but that's cobblers. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others.
You dont get deducted points for breaking covid rules
I get that. My point was that if United should be deducted points because of a section of their fan's behaviour it should apply across the board. Point deductions for public health breaches, they should also be introduced for the racial abuse directed towards players on social media.
It's more to do with the game getting called off.
Normally if that happens you get punished.
I understand that but it was beyond the control of the club. Had the club been the reason for the match being postponed I could see reasoning for a sanction.
I know that many will say that the reason a points deduction doesn't happen is because it's United but that's cobblers. "
The club and police were told there would be a demonstration.
It looks like They.did absolutely nothing to contain it. |
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"I am disgusted by these thugs today, there is a way to protest and what these thugs did, is not the right way!!
Sorry I think there should be points losses by united as a fine isn’t the right way to stop this mentality
Why do you call them thugs? Most of there were peaceful protesters "
It was a violent protest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not sure the club should be held accountable for a group of people breaking and entering / trespassing. Although I haven't caught up with the whole story yet, I've just seen the headlines so maybe I've missed something. "
Ideal solution would be banned for life if they could be identified. |
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"I'm not sure the club should be held accountable for a group of people breaking and entering / trespassing. Although I haven't caught up with the whole story yet, I've just seen the headlines so maybe I've missed something.
Ideal solution would be banned for life if they could be identified. "
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There's really no excuse for thuggery and vandalism during any protests no matter how justified they are.
Once on the pitch these 'fans' would have done far better to sit on the pitch 2m apart and stay there. What a positive image that would have created as opposed to the negativity resulting now. |
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"Covidiots = football supporters."
Just football supporters then
Not XR
Not BLM protests
Not people rushing out the pub beer gardens
Just football supporters
As long as I know where it’s safe to protest |
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"one of my best friends lives near salford, and the protests near the hotel were directly behind her apartments.
apparently there was no shortage of violence, harassment towards women walking past, and damage to nearby properties. I haven't seen any of that reported.
I actually agree with the premise of protesting (in the right way) against greedy owners / football for the fans etc... I can't agree with thugs basically hijacking that for an excuse to have a violent day out on the beer."
The scum of society, as always we are far too tolerant. |
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Is it really the fact that the owners are money grabbers or is it that city are in a different league at the moment ?
I genuinely can't remember any protests when Utd were paying a record amount of money for pogba or paying Rooney 300k a week.
Would the protests have gone ahead if they were sitting in man city's position.
Money at the top level in football is absurd and I wish the sky bubble would burst, they stole the soul of football years ago. |
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"Sorry can’t agree, other clubs have had points deducted for failing to play due to covid
Why should the club get away with it
Which clubs?
Look up Motherwell and Hamilton in the SPL they didn’t get points deducted they got a fine
Matt thanks for that, but it’s irrelevant to the point..
this action of these thugs cannot go unpunished
Surely by this logic Liverpool F.C should have been deducted points for the mass illegal gatherings by their fans to celebrate their title win last year.
Nope because they didnt get a game abandoned
Aye but they broke covid regulations and endangered the health of others.
You dont get deducted points for breaking covid rules
I get that. My point was that if United should be deducted points because of a section of their fan's behaviour it should apply across the board. Point deductions for public health breaches, they should also be introduced for the racial abuse directed towards players on social media.
It's more to do with the game getting called off.
Normally if that happens you get punished.
I understand that but it was beyond the control of the club. Had the club been the reason for the match being postponed I could see reasoning for a sanction.
I know that many will say that the reason a points deduction doesn't happen is because it's United but that's cobblers.
The club and police were told there would be a demonstration.
It looks like They.did absolutely nothing to contain it."
That's on the police, breaches the peace is for them to deal with. |
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Talking to a lad in work last night about it. He’s a typical student type. But doesn’t like football. I tried explaining what was happening and he just rolled his eyes and said “people have a basic right to protest”.
So I showed the video of the pitch invasion. The debate that started was interesting!
Basically about how some people there would be protesting and they get our full support. And then he saw that kid climb the goalpost (and fall off which was hilarious) and we both agreed that he was rioting not protesting.
We then went off on a tangent about Black Lives Matter protests and the London protests that so many people ruined by making it violent/aggressive.
His conclusion was they should be punished in a way that teaches the fans the difference between protesting and rioting. He thinks they should be docked points as a deterrent for future issues like trying to form a rival league.
It will also punish the fans because they could have really made a statement and have the country behind them, but instead, we’re talking about the idiots who caused problems.
He also suggested that due to the rivalries between Utd and Liverpool, Liverpool fans may try and do one better......a points deduction would stop this immediately.
Everton fans like me hope Liverpool try and do it and get points deducted so we have a better chance of finishing higher haha |
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I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery |
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"There's really no excuse for thuggery and vandalism during any protests no matter how justified they are.
Once on the pitch these 'fans' would have done far better to sit on the pitch 2m apart and stay there. What a positive image that would have created as opposed to the negativity resulting now."
That would have actually been a hell of great way to do it. |
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"I am disgusted by these thugs today, there is a way to protest and what these thugs did, is not the right way!!
Sorry I think there should be points losses by united as a fine isn’t the right way to stop this mentality
Why do you call them thugs? Most of there were peaceful protesters
It was a violent protest."
Not all of it was |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery"
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions. |
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"There's really no excuse for thuggery and vandalism during any protests no matter how justified they are.
Once on the pitch these 'fans' would have done far better to sit on the pitch 2m apart and stay there. What a positive image that would have created as opposed to the negativity resulting now.
That would have actually been a hell of great way to do it."
I’d have been 100% behind this! |
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As someone alluded to earlier. They could have sat down at the entrances of the ground or sat down in front of the coach.
Peaceful dignified and getting their point across.
No let’s just invade the pitch. Lob a few flares around and nick stuff. Not to mention fight each other and GBH a Police Officer. But we still want to be remembered for the serious message please and not the thuggery.
The mentality of it all. Hilarious.
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"There's really no excuse for thuggery and vandalism during any protests no matter how justified they are.
Once on the pitch these 'fans' would have done far better to sit on the pitch 2m apart and stay there. What a positive image that would have created as opposed to the negativity resulting now."
Totally agree, they have a grievance and all they've done is turned some people off from engagement in that by the actions of a minority.. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
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Thursday night at the Arsenal ground rumours of the same. I hope it’s peaceful and conveys a better message of fans. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Thursday night at the Arsenal ground rumours of the same. I hope it’s peaceful and conveys a better message of fans. "
I was there and it was peaceful
Just because there are a few knobheads don’t make all of them thugs |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions. "
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe  ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can |
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"As a Newcastle fan this shows the build up that the big 6 get
Nufc fans protest against an owner who for 14 years has sold our best players, let the club go backwards, hired inept manager after inept manager, and as said during the match today, Bruce is doing a good job as we sit 17th
Nufc fans are lucky to have Mike Ashley
MUFC fans protest against an owner who for 15 years have let the club go stay relatively the same, hired worlds class managers and spent millions on world class players, Ole needs to go theyre only 2nd
MUFC fans we stand by you and how horribly you have been treat
The media bias and arse licking of the so call big 6 has to be the main stoppage of the ESL fallout, its enough to make you sick, ironically the same journalists saying the saudi takeover is criminal for Nufc are now saying they need to come in and rescue Mufc
And they say wrestlings fake
J"
Nah. Footys been fake since 1992. Gone are the days where a Haa dful of clubs didn't control thee chance for at least dozens of other clubs to have a realistic chance of challenging for the top honours.
Where have the Prem clubs been as clubs further down have sunk without trace whilst at the same time stopping funds trickling down as they used to? Whilst giving solidarity payments to relegated clubs from the Prem so even turning league 2(the champ) into a financially doped closed shop. Nicking promising youngsters from the bottom three leagues and only paying tribunal fees in compensation whilst at the same time allowing academies to hoover up all available talent for miles around due to the abolition of the rule stopping them doing so u less the pre teen was located within a few miles of them. Stockpiling potential talent and hoarding it basically.
We used to beat NUFC regularly. We're now non league. The chances of us, or anyone else with gates of less than 10k beating you guys in a regular fashion again are long gone.
The irony of solidarity at the prospect of the ESL hitting non 'big six' clubs in the pocket financially and for sporting/cultural reasons.
The football is better, but football is dead. You lot helped engineer that. Fans and owners alike.
Sorry to sound harsh, but that's just how I see it. And doubtless many fans of clubs not in the top two divisions. Particularly at now defunct clubs,which is something that didn't necessarily have to happen. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
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Liverpool fans were walking out a couple of years ago in response to price rises..
I think the boat has long sailed in relation to any possibility of the 50+1 model that some clubs in Germany have..
There's simply no way can a group of fans raise the revenue, over £1 billion plus half the debt for Utd..
Won't happen in that model.. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Liverpool fans were walking out a couple of years ago in response to price rises..
I think the boat has long sailed in relation to any possibility of the 50+1 model that some clubs in Germany have..
There's simply no way can a group of fans raise the revenue, over £1 billion plus half the debt for Utd..
Won't happen in that model.."
Your right I guess |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
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You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Liverpool fans were walking out a couple of years ago in response to price rises..
I think the boat has long sailed in relation to any possibility of the 50+1 model that some clubs in Germany have..
There's simply no way can a group of fans raise the revenue, over £1 billion plus half the debt for Utd..
Won't happen in that model.."
Some clubs? I nearly bought a German club last year so have 1st hand experience in this. Apart from 3 or 4 “grandfather” clubs like Bayer Leverkusen, Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim, every club, by law has to follow the 50+1 model. |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery"
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"I am disgusted by these thugs today, there is a way to protest and what these thugs did, is not the right way!!
Sorry I think there should be points losses by united as a fine isn’t the right way to stop this mentality
Why do you call them thugs? Most of there were peaceful protesters
It was a violent protest.
Not all of it was "
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But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this "
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Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?"
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha"
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Liverpool fans were walking out a couple of years ago in response to price rises..
I think the boat has long sailed in relation to any possibility of the 50+1 model that some clubs in Germany have..
There's simply no way can a group of fans raise the revenue, over £1 billion plus half the debt for Utd..
Won't happen in that model..
Some clubs? I nearly bought a German club last year so have 1st hand experience in this. Apart from 3 or 4 “grandfather” clubs like Bayer Leverkusen, Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim, every club, by law has to follow the 50+1 model. "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke "
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I was wrong. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Thursday night at the Arsenal ground rumours of the same. I hope it’s peaceful and conveys a better message of fans.
I was there and it was peaceful
Just because there are a few knobheads don’t make all of them thugs "
I’m talking this upcoming Thursday. |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong. "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Thursday night at the Arsenal ground rumours of the same. I hope it’s peaceful and conveys a better message of fans.
I was there and it was peaceful
Just because there are a few knobheads don’t make all of them thugs
I’m talking this upcoming Thursday. "
Thursday just gone Arsenal fans made the voice heard and it was peaceful |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it."
Everton have spent over £500 million in the last 5 years. |
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale. "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it."
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?"
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one? "
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons. |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills. "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams "
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You are protesting about your owners
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills. "
he’s won everything with the trams he’s managed and gone to stoke on a cold Tuesday night in December and won so what’s you’re point ? |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday."
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills. he’s won everything with the trams he’s managed and gone to stoke on a cold Tuesday night in December and won so what’s you’re point ?"
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons."
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons.
And you lot call us bitter lol"
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto"
Porto was a team playing in Europe
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons.
And you lot call us bitter lol
Simply pointing out stating 1 group on fans are "the people'is nonesene."
Go and create your own league where you can never be relegated......oh wait, you lot have already tried that |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history......."
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons.
And you lot call us bitter lol
Simply pointing out stating 1 group on fans are "the people'is nonesene.
Go and create your own league where you can never be relegated......oh wait, you lot have already tried that"
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
"
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons.
And you lot call us bitter lol
Simply pointing out stating 1 group on fans are "the people'is nonesene.
Go and create your own league where you can never be relegated......oh wait, you lot have already tried that
I must have imagined Everton bekmg one of the founder members of a breakaway league in 1992."
Once again, an argument to win something irrelevant.
I mentioned a league where you can’t be relegated. I’m pretty sure teams can be relegated from the breakaway league that Everton were one of the founders of |
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But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x"
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Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you "
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons.
And you lot call us bitter lol
Simply pointing out stating 1 group on fans are "the people'is nonesene.
Go and create your own league where you can never be relegated......oh wait, you lot have already tried that
I must have imagined Everton bekmg one of the founder members of a breakaway league in 1992.
Once again, an argument to win something irrelevant.
I mentioned a league where you can’t be relegated. I’m pretty sure teams can be relegated from the breakaway league that Everton were one of the founders of "
You joined a breakaway league which created a huge division between rich and poor clubs and put football behind a paywall
But you are moral guardians because you didnt join another one ,because it had no relegation
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Been a football fan since I was a small lad, went every home game I could and travelled often as possible. Loved the game as it was, like the game as it is.
Every fan wants a better team, bigger stadiums for better atmosphere and better conditions, its what the game is.
But these better players, bigger stadiums cost and its gone from the time the local business man ran the club. Like it or not its big business and we the fans who turn up on match days don't count as much as we once did. It's the television, streaming, media rights, sponsorship that drives the game. Big business is needed.
So where I sympathise with these fans, take a step back and look at the bigger picture. It's crap but it's here and not going anywhere else.
True fans stick together, support your team, do the right thing but doing what happened in Manchester is not good for your image. Makes the average fan look bad.
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"As if everton and the rest of them wouldmt have joined given half the chance
No chance. There’s a reason we’re known as the peoples club!!!
Yep beciade it's a fairytale.
Makes no sense lol. We’re known as the peoples club because of a fairytale? Which one?
What does that even mean?
Do robots support other clubs?
It's a phrase came up with my kenright to appease simpletons."
Surely not the same simpletons that got English football banned from Europe for how many years .. Or the same simpletons that set their own town Hall on fire with flares,,, or the simpletons that brick and smash team coaches?? |
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These ‘other’ clubs would do exactly the same as the super league clubs, and to think otherwise is naive.
UEFA are to blame, the structure of the champions league is ridiculous, none of these teams should be flying to Afghanistan to play a team of farmers on a Wednesday to make UEFA money. There are too many teams, too many games and some of these teams are not even in Europe!
The super league was about greed, but let’s not pretend that the premier league and uefa are not just as greedy. If someone is going to get the cash then I don’t see why it wouldn’t be the teams providing the product and not some guy in Switzerland who has never kicked a ball. If they tried to do it again, but with relegation and promotion and proper qualification based on performance, then I would be in favour.
In my opinion it should be champions only, straight knock out and far less games. That would mean we have a better product to watch domestically with our best players playing and not sitting on the bench being ‘rested’ for a more important champs league game.
As for old Trafford, well United security are responsible for keeping people off the pitch, they should and probably will be fined but points is too much, it’s an off the pitch issue. The supporters did wrong, but they shouldn’t have been able to. You can understand their frustration at the way the glazers finance the club |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you."
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league? |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
"
It's been happening since 1992.
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
"
I give up
You don’t know what your talking about
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?"
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale."
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point"
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale.
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale.
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
I give up
You don’t know what your talking about
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience. "
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale.
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. who have you managed ? "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
"
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player. |
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale.
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. who have you managed ?
There’s been a few clubs. You’ll have heard of one of them.
Not going to be selling my story to the daily Mail are you? "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale.
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. who have you managed ?
There’s been a few clubs. You’ll have heard of one of them.
Not going to be selling my story to the daily Mail are you?
More like the Daily Sport "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player. "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
You were simply protesting about your ownership.
Lpool.fans got rid of hicks and Gillette years ago
Liverpool fans should stand up again as there owners along with Man U owner we’re pushing for this
As mentioned before,there was a walk out a few years ago.
Anyone who think they are just gone to sell is deluded
And who exactly has a spare billion lying around to buy the club?
Still need to make your voice heard and so far Liverpool and Tottenham have done nothing it’s wrong what this group have done not just for there own pocket but for football all over the world
Why should lpool fans protest because you dont like your owners?
So your telling me Liverpool fans are happy to fuck all the other teams
What does that mean?
You are protesting about your owners
If you were sitting top of the league that protest doesnt even happen yday.
It’s more than just about the owners the 6 owner wanted to breakaway and make more money and it would not get passed down the line grassroots would have been fucked over so bad
It’s more than just not liking the owners it’s what they would have done to English football as a whole but if you happy with that then good on you
So they wanted a closed shop champions league with the same teams competing in it year after year? And to keep more of the revenue they generate with their employees to themselves...
Hmmmm doesn't seem too different to what's been happening for the last 10 years.
It's been happening since 1992.
The idea that Everton, or any other premier league club would have declined the other is yet another fairytale.
Lol your football intelligence is really shining through here.
Everton know that we are a smaller club than the kopites over Stanley Park. But we see that a new league where 15 teams cannot be relegated is a fairytale.
What happens if you finished bottom of the ESL. How is that a fair system? The Premier League has its faults. But it does send money down the pyramid. Should it send more? That’s a different debate that I can’t be arsed entertaining.
Let me sun this up for you, as a former professional football manager travelling the world, I’ve forgotten more about football then what you know.
I’ve seen the inside of top flight boardrooms. I’ve seen negotiations that never hit the press. I’ve been paid to visit Germany and sit with Klopp for a few weeks watching how he works. And as a blue, it’s difficult for me to say this, but he’s the best manager in the world. Period.
So please, for the sake of my sanity, stop trying to win a losing argument. who have you managed ?
There’s been a few clubs. You’ll have heard of one of them.
Not going to be selling my story to the daily Mail are you? "
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player.
Why would a top manager ,manage a non professional club?
Your argument is irrelevant. "
Irony isn’t lost on you is it?
I was talking about Ancelotti being a man who’s ever managed clubs that had money. And how I doubted him when he was linked to Everton because he’s only ever managed clubs that have money to spend on top top players. And how I was wrong.
And now we’re full circle. |
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player.
Why would a top manager ,manage a non professional club?
Your argument is irrelevant.
Irony isn’t lost on you is it?
I was talking about Ancelotti being a man who’s ever managed clubs that had money. And how I doubted him when he was linked to Everton because he’s only ever managed clubs that have money to spend on top top players. And how I was wrong.
And now we’re full circle. "
Obvs £500 million in 5 years is small change.
I'm presuming you are not going to answer my question
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player.
Why would a top manager ,manage a non professional club?
Your argument is irrelevant.
Irony isn’t lost on you is it?
I was talking about Ancelotti being a man who’s ever managed clubs that had money. And how I doubted him when he was linked to Everton because he’s only ever managed clubs that have money to spend on top top players. And how I was wrong.
And now we’re full circle.
Obvs £500 million in 5 years is small change.
I'm presuming you are not going to answer my question
"
Nope cause when he was hired, I didn’t think we’d be spending by much money. I’m still of the mentality that our club is poor. I forget Moshiri is a billionaire. I still think of Tahoe time a kopite owned us and nearly ruined us.
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player.
Why would a top manager ,manage a non professional club?
Your argument is irrelevant.
Irony isn’t lost on you is it?
I was talking about Ancelotti being a man who’s ever managed clubs that had money. And how I doubted him when he was linked to Everton because he’s only ever managed clubs that have money to spend on top top players. And how I was wrong.
And now we’re full circle.
Obvs £500 million in 5 years is small change.
I'm presuming you are not going to answer my question
Nope cause when he was hired, I didn’t think we’d be spending by much money. I’m still of the mentality that our club is poor. I forget Moshiri is a billionaire. I still think of Tahoe time a kopite owned us and nearly ruined us.
Have you even asked a question?"
Oh dear
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"I am disgusted by these thugs today, there is a way to protest and what these thugs did, is not the right way!!
Sorry I think there should be points losses by united as a fine isn’t the right way to stop this mentality
Why do you call them thugs? Most of there were peaceful protesters "
Most were peaceful???
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"I don't think the club should be held accountable for a mindless set of thugs, not fans, breaking and entering the ground. Let's have it right Liverpool have displayed poor fan behaviourfor years and got away with it. True fans regardless of who they support will not condone mindless thuggery
But the club was the reason that the fans rioted. If the club hasn’t try to create a breakaway league then the thugs wouldn’t have got on the pitch.
Consequences to your actions.
I agree with you there should be consequences. Should they deduct points this year? In my opinion no. The league has almost run its course. However next year I'd handicap ALL 6 with a transfer embargo and a starting point of minus ten points. Will that help Everton qualify for Europe ,,,,, probably not. Incidentally if anyone can Ancelotti can
We do need all the help we can get haha
I have to say getting Carlo in as manager was a master stroke
I wasn’t for it when I heard him linked. Thought his history was made from being at clubs with money.
I was wrong.
His football IQ is top class, it just so happened that clubs with money recognised it.
It’s the same with Mourinho though. Never been at a bottom division club and shown his true skills.
Porto
Porto was a team playing in Europe
And if you know your history.......
Well it would have been quite difficult to win the champs league if they werent.
Which just shows a typical kopite behaviour. You think of an argument to win something that has no relevance.
I said mourinho was a manager who’s never managed a lower league club and you came out with Porto. I mentioned that they were in Europe and then you spout drivel about them needing to be in it to win it.
Not relevant. Try again x
Oh dear
Porto had never won the European cup before and had no where near the money of the likes of real.
But this isnt an achievement coming from you.
I’m didn’t say that!!! Wow!!! Kopite argument again.
Let me put it into smaller words so you can understand.
Mourinho has never managed....been in charge of...a football team....they kick a ball around a field....that had no money.....they are skint.....and don’t play in the top division.
Understand now?
Porto have been in the top 3 clubs in Portugal for a long time. They aren’t a small club. Man City aren’t a small club yet have they ever won the champions league?
Right..so your argument is now one of the most decorated coaches in world football has never managed tranmere.
Yep good point
My point is that he’s decorated cause he had the money to buy the players that helped him become one of the most decorated managers in the world.
But managing a bunch of semi professional footballers is a whole different ball game. And I’m speaking from experience.
Professional football is different from amateur football
I dont recall arguing that wasnt the case.
I didn’t mention amateur football lol another kopite argument.
What I said was lower league semi professional football is different to top division football. I questioned whether he’d be able to manage a club where the striker is also an insurance salesman. Or even a club that’s professional but doesn’t have the finances to buy a £1m player.
Why would a top manager ,manage a non professional club?
Your argument is irrelevant.
Irony isn’t lost on you is it?
I was talking about Ancelotti being a man who’s ever managed clubs that had money. And how I doubted him when he was linked to Everton because he’s only ever managed clubs that have money to spend on top top players. And how I was wrong.
And now we’re full circle.
Obvs £500 million in 5 years is small change.
I'm presuming you are not going to answer my question
Nope cause when he was hired, I didn’t think we’d be spending by much money. I’m still of the mentality that our club is poor. I forget Moshiri is a billionaire. I still think of Tahoe time a kopite owned us and nearly ruined us.
Have you even asked a question?
Oh dear
If Everton were invited to join the esl would they have accepted?"
I did answer that question. You was too busy coming up with invalid arguments so must have missed it despite actually quoting my response.
In my belief, Everton wouldn’t have joined a league where there is no relegation. That is my belief, and that is why we are called the peoples club.
And on that note, I’m done with this conversation now. Have to go get my kids.
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"Talking to a lad in work last night about it. He’s a typical student type. But doesn’t like football. I tried explaining what was happening and he just rolled his eyes and said “people have a basic right to protest”.
So I showed the video of the pitch invasion. The debate that started was interesting!
Basically about how some people there would be protesting and they get our full support. And then he saw that kid climb the goalpost (and fall off which was hilarious) and we both agreed that he was rioting not protesting.
We then went off on a tangent about Black Lives Matter protests and the London protests that so many people ruined by making it violent/aggressive.
His conclusion was they should be punished in a way that teaches the fans the difference between protesting and rioting. He thinks they should be docked points as a deterrent for future issues like trying to form a rival league.
It will also punish the fans because they could have really made a statement and have the country behind them, but instead, we’re talking about the idiots who caused problems.
He also suggested that due to the rivalries between Utd and Liverpool, Liverpool fans may try and do one better......a points deduction would stop this immediately.
Everton fans like me hope Liverpool try and do it and get points deducted so we have a better chance of finishing higher haha"
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Thursday night at the Arsenal ground rumours of the same. I hope it’s peaceful and conveys a better message of fans.
Read my last post
I was there and it was peaceful
Just because there are a few knobheads don’t make all of them thugs "
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"Man U fans have had enough so have us Arsenal fans Liverpool and Tottenham have not been seen to do anything yet
Thursday night at the Arsenal ground rumours of the same. I hope it’s peaceful and conveys a better message of fans.
Read my last post
I was there and it was peaceful
Just because there are a few knobheads don’t make all of them thugs "
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson "
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge "
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times. |
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times. "
Klopp and Guardiola are certainly the top 2
The one criticism you can have of pep is the ridiculous amount of money he has been given and klopp is maybe better at developing players. |
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times.
Klopp and Guardiola are certainly the top 2
The one criticism you can have of pep is the ridiculous amount of money he has been given and klopp is maybe better at developing players."
Quite possibly yes. I have to say it does pain me that if Fergus on had not been so egotistical in sanctioning the appointment of a fellow Scot,,, Moyes. We might have got klopp or guardiola..... Ahhh well one can dream |
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times.
Klopp and Guardiola are certainly the top 2
The one criticism you can have of pep is the ridiculous amount of money he has been given and klopp is maybe better at developing players.
Quite possibly yes. I have to say it does pain me that if Fergus on had not been so egotistical in sanctioning the appointment of a fellow Scot,,, Moyes. We might have got klopp or guardiola..... Ahhh well one can dream "
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"Would they be protesting if they were top of the league ??
NO "
yes... and they did. They protested from 2005 when they took over that's what 4 or 5 premier league trophies and a UCL at least. Google David Beckham Glaziers protest that was 2010. The difference... they did it peacefully and didn't get a game called off. Since then there has been social media boycotts, sponser boycott, match protests. And no one in here seems to know anything about them... interesting. |
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times. "
From first hand experience, Klopp includes every member of his team. Ever member of the team develops under Klopp. It’s not the Klopp show.
Guardiola is a great coach, but I sense he’s more about the players development over any of the coaches.
Which isn’t a bad thing. But I just prefer Klopps way of working.
Guardiola changed the mentality of football, but he did that at Barcelona and couldn’t fix their defensive issues. As did Wenger. But teams adjusted.
And that’s what happened with Liverpool. Klopp found the perfect system for his players, and they played some of the best football I’ve ever seen. But this season teams have found them out; injuries obviously didn’t help.
But I guarantee Klopp will adjust, and Liverpool will be back there or thereabouts next season......unless they join the ESL lol
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times.
From first hand experience, Klopp includes every member of his team. Ever member of the team develops under Klopp. It’s not the Klopp show.
Guardiola is a great coach, but I sense he’s more about the players development over any of the coaches.
Which isn’t a bad thing. But I just prefer Klopps way of working.
Guardiola changed the mentality of football, but he did that at Barcelona and couldn’t fix their defensive issues. As did Wenger. But teams adjusted.
And that’s what happened with Liverpool. Klopp found the perfect system for his players, and they played some of the best football I’ve ever seen. But this season teams have found them out; injuries obviously didn’t help.
But I guarantee Klopp will adjust, and Liverpool will be back there or thereabouts next season......unless they join the ESL lol
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Interesting and to be fair regardless of opinion they have both taken our premier league to a different level. If the ESL had come to fruition,, I was set to get a season ticket for Rochdale |
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times.
From first hand experience, Klopp includes every member of his team. Ever member of the team develops under Klopp. It’s not the Klopp show.
Guardiola is a great coach, but I sense he’s more about the players development over any of the coaches.
Which isn’t a bad thing. But I just prefer Klopps way of working.
Guardiola changed the mentality of football, but he did that at Barcelona and couldn’t fix their defensive issues. As did Wenger. But teams adjusted.
And that’s what happened with Liverpool. Klopp found the perfect system for his players, and they played some of the best football I’ve ever seen. But this season teams have found them out; injuries obviously didn’t help.
But I guarantee Klopp will adjust, and Liverpool will be back there or thereabouts next season......unless they join the ESL lol
Interesting and to be fair regardless of opinion they have both taken our premier league to a different level. If the ESL had come to fruition,, I was set to get a season ticket for Rochdale "
From my contacts it will still happen. They’ll come back with a promotion/relegation format. They don’t want to drop the 15 team safe rule but will eventually accept it.
I hear Spotland is a nice place to visit |
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More like the Daily Sport
Lol, think they’d send some of the modes over for a photo shoot?
Models*
Probably not pal.... More likely to send Johnny Vegas or Ricky Tomlinson
Then I’ll have to deny all knowledge
Incidentally your comment on Klopp and him being the best coach. Do you think he is better than Giardiiola?
In my humble opinion he is a close second. Guardiiola for me has changed the way many teams play and actually set up. As a lifetime red I hate to say City play at a different technical level currently. I also think this is one of the reasons for the demise of Mourinho. He just hast moved with the Times.
From first hand experience, Klopp includes every member of his team. Ever member of the team develops under Klopp. It’s not the Klopp show.
Guardiola is a great coach, but I sense he’s more about the players development over any of the coaches.
Which isn’t a bad thing. But I just prefer Klopps way of working.
Guardiola changed the mentality of football, but he did that at Barcelona and couldn’t fix their defensive issues. As did Wenger. But teams adjusted.
And that’s what happened with Liverpool. Klopp found the perfect system for his players, and they played some of the best football I’ve ever seen. But this season teams have found them out; injuries obviously didn’t help.
But I guarantee Klopp will adjust, and Liverpool will be back there or thereabouts next season......unless they join the ESL lol
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Interesting times for elite football. The last year has shown that Premier / elite footballers and their clubs don't need full stadia. For their product. Transfers and salaries and valuations have remained pretty much unchanged. The price of sky and TV packages has remained the same. And actually the sky hasn't caved in on those who are passionate and love attending their clubs matches. |
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