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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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Following the latest revelations about film and telly people (in an ever growing list, and without talking about those people, are explicit sex and violence scenes always gratuitous?
Where is the line on artistic, needed for the plot/character development and gratuitous?
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I can think of 2 fairly recent examples that I've watched and thought the sex scenes added to the authenticity of the characters "
In what ways?
Did we lack authentic characters when sex was implied?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
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I just likes the shiny pictures and the cars that go broom broom |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I can think of 2 fairly recent examples that I've watched and thought the sex scenes added to the authenticity of the characters
In what ways?
Did we lack authentic characters when sex was implied?
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The type of sex the characters had tied with the plot so it made it more relatable for me |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
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I can hear men raising their cudgels at this comment.
I have read of sex scenes being added to fill the time (and have one friend who experienced this when they were younger and on screen).
I have read defence of extremely violent scenes being necessary to understand the character(s).
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
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As it seems neither have you. Hate watching anything with a bad script (unless it so bad it becomes unintentionally funny).
Sooner good script over sex or violence any day. |
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I stopped watching ‘The house that jack Built’ due to one scene with a Mother and her Child. I just got angry as well as upset knowing Lars Von Trier the Director would have probably wanted me to feel that way. If I’d bought it, it would be in the bin after that scene.
I know it’s just a film but sometimes a certain scene, like the notorious bit in ‘irreversible’ that I did manage to watch till the end, can just get to you and how you feel about what it’s portraying. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Wow, now that is a big values question.
Gratuitous can be interpreted and projected in oh so many ways."
It absolutely can. I have enjoyed as many sex scenes as ones I have found 'gratuitous' (read pointless, badly inserted or violent).
I am more likely to put up with a gratuitous sex scene but the more I learn, those are more likely to damage individuals. More thought to safety and safeguarding has been given to violence than to sex.
Then we have the holy trinity of women experiencing sexual violence, being used as the plot point and disposable to 'understand' the male protagonist.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I stopped watching ‘The house that jack Built’ due to one scene with a Mother and her Child. I just got angry as well as upset knowing Lars Von Trier the Director would have probably wanted me to feel that way. If I’d bought it, it would be in the bin after that scene.
I know it’s just a film but sometimes a certain scene, like the notorious bit in ‘irreversible’ that I did manage to watch till the end, can just get to you and how you feel about what it’s portraying. "
That is the potential of all art forms, I think. The visual impact (for the sighted) is, or can be, especially affecting.
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"Wow, now that is a big values question.
Gratuitous can be interpreted and projected in oh so many ways.
It absolutely can. I have enjoyed as many sex scenes as ones I have found 'gratuitous' (read pointless, badly inserted or violent).
I am more likely to put up with a gratuitous sex scene but the more I learn, those are more likely to damage individuals. More thought to safety and safeguarding has been given to violence than to sex.
Then we have the holy trinity of women experiencing sexual violence, being used as the plot point and disposable to 'understand' the male protagonist.
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Yet, projection from the past is a trigger for now.
Just look at a simpler level by the disclaimer telephone numbers from main stream programs given out.
Our values are set by instant social impact.
Never did see the photo of your boobs you sent me by the way.
Have fun. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
I just likes the shiny pictures and the cars that go broom broom "
And the stuff that goes kaboom!! |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
As it seems neither have you. Hate watching anything with a bad script (unless it so bad it becomes unintentionally funny).
Sooner good script over sex or violence any day."
I followed every word of The Vagabond when I was a kid. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Wow, now that is a big values question.
Gratuitous can be interpreted and projected in oh so many ways.
It absolutely can. I have enjoyed as many sex scenes as ones I have found 'gratuitous' (read pointless, badly inserted or violent).
I am more likely to put up with a gratuitous sex scene but the more I learn, those are more likely to damage individuals. More thought to safety and safeguarding has been given to violence than to sex.
Then we have the holy trinity of women experiencing sexual violence, being used as the plot point and disposable to 'understand' the male protagonist.
Yet, projection from the past is a trigger for now.
Just look at a simpler level by the disclaimer telephone numbers from main stream programs given out.
Our values are set by instant social impact.
Never did see the photo of your boobs you sent me by the way.
Have fun."
How did you not see the gratuitous flashing of my boobs if I sent you the image? Did I need a better disclaimer and helpline details?
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"Wow, now that is a big values question.
Gratuitous can be interpreted and projected in oh so many ways.
It absolutely can. I have enjoyed as many sex scenes as ones I have found 'gratuitous' (read pointless, badly inserted or violent).
I am more likely to put up with a gratuitous sex scene but the more I learn, those are more likely to damage individuals. More thought to safety and safeguarding has been given to violence than to sex.
Then we have the holy trinity of women experiencing sexual violence, being used as the plot point and disposable to 'understand' the male protagonist.
Yet, projection from the past is a trigger for now.
Just look at a simpler level by the disclaimer telephone numbers from main stream programs given out.
Our values are set by instant social impact.
Never did see the photo of your boobs you sent me by the way.
Have fun.
How did you not see the gratuitous flashing of my boobs if I sent you the image? Did I need a better disclaimer and helpline details?
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Honestly, pressed the wrong button.... obviously on the phone.
So, I cannot claim to see a disclaimer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
As it seems neither have you. Hate watching anything with a bad script (unless it so bad it becomes unintentionally funny).
Sooner good script over sex or violence any day."
Or maybe, just maybe she was joking. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
As it seems neither have you. Hate watching anything with a bad script (unless it so bad it becomes unintentionally funny).
Sooner good script over sex or violence any day.
Or maybe, just maybe she was joking. "
Don't be daft. No one jokes on here.
Cudgels at the ready... |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"The sex scenes make us more intimate with the characters.
The violence is for the men, as they don't follow a script.
As it seems neither have you. Hate watching anything with a bad script (unless it so bad it becomes unintentionally funny).
Sooner good script over sex or violence any day.
Or maybe, just maybe she was joking.
Don't be daft. No one jokes on here.
Cudgels at the ready..."
For the record...I was deadly serious! Everyone knows men look at boobs, explosions, fights and car chases  |
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I've not watched an 18 rated film since American Psycho in the cinema more than 20 years ago. It was the final straw for me. In fact, it took me a long time to watch another film starring Christian Bale because of the associations with it.
I'm a sensitive soul.
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