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Thank god for that. Though I never thought it was serious....I still feel it is a bargaining gambit to try and take more control of the champions league. Some of these clubs say the cant survive with their current income levels. Here is a suggestion for them....if your turnover is 500million a year dont spend 501million. Stop paying ridiculous transfer fees and wages.i have a business and have to balance the outgoings against the income. |
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Now all we need is the European club competitions to go back to a full knockout format. Apart from the odd one or two, it's the same teams year in year out.
For the neutral, most of the current group stage matches are not worth watching. |
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Uefa and Fifa are as corrupt as they come. They've had a duopoly on our game and the running of it. The irony of all this should not be lost on all the fans. Personally its just one set of greedy bastards shafting another set of greedy bastards, with the true fans at the shit stick end of it all. |
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See how easy it was to stop this happening, A huge fan backlash, Ex players etc, Now if we all do the same about tickets prices Sky/BT prices stupid kick off times.
As for the other 14 clubs well done for standing your ground, Sky let there presents run on this for the last 48 hours why ? Because they wasn't involved |
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It has served it's purpose.
The big clubs now have given the establishment, the warning that if they do not get a larger cut, this nonsense will be hanging over them like some sort of Sword of Damocles.
The idea will be resurrected in 3 years time when the next set of contracts are negotiated by UEFA and FIFA. |
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By *-man24Man
over a year ago
northwest |
Fan power look at what we people can do when they walk together, Liverpool now must be the next to admit they fucked up and make a statement ASAP withdrawing their dealings with this ESL bullshit
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The fall out is looking to be unreal with all the presidents/chairmen under immense pressure.
Juve and ManUre already gone. Who follows?!"
Why be offensive using the term Manure? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well....... that lasted long....  "
It was never designed to last at all. The broadside from European so called elite is sinister in its intent and will serve a purpose to take a bigger share of the pot.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ed Woodward has resigned! I guess some good has come from this backlash
Old news he was going anyway.
New news, he's gone now  "
He goes at the end of the year. The announcement was brought forward so the Glasiers can blame the fall out on him! |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
Like some have already said on this thread the clubs were using it as a bargaining tool to get more of the television money. I noticed that the 12 clubs were from 3 countries that have a 20 team league and I am wondering in order to accommodate a expanded Champions League will they now try to go down to 18 team leagues and in England perhaps scrap the League cup. |
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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago
the valleys |
While I'm against it I think it will eventually happen but under UEFA and fifa guidelines the likely scenario for the current one is that some total banker from JP Morgan has watched their kids playing fifa21 on the ps5 and seen them setting up a league checked his wallet then asked his kids if they wanted that league for Christmas but for an example you only have to look at cricket 40 odd years ago they told Kerry Packer his vision of a fast paced colourful version of the game involving the world's best players was a pipe dream at best and just look what we have today with the IPL being the crown jewel in world domestic cricket lots of money invested from outside business interests but no actual control of the game other than ICC so I wouldn't say goodbye completely to a European league just see you sometime soon |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"While I'm against it I think it will eventually happen but under UEFA and fifa guidelines the likely scenario for the current one is that some total banker from JP Morgan has watched their kids playing fifa21 on the ps5 and seen them setting up a league checked his wallet then asked his kids if they wanted that league for Christmas but for an example you only have to look at cricket 40 odd years ago they told Kerry Packer his vision of a fast paced colourful version of the game involving the world's best players was a pipe dream at best and just look what we have today with the IPL being the crown jewel in world domestic cricket lots of money invested from outside business interests but no actual control of the game other than ICC so I wouldn't say goodbye completely to a European league just see you sometime soon"
. Yes the T20 and One day cricket we see now was pretty much born by what Kerry Packer did all those years ago. Do you think under UEFA / FIFA guidelines we could see say a football tournament / league of say 8 a side with 30 minutes a half.Or even the power leagues we have now for 5 a side or 6 a side been a lucrative way to take football in a different direction
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"2 down 10 to go 
Hopefully your team and mine will follow suit ASAP ps great pictures (obviously) but nice art work too x"
Knowing Levy he’ll stay as long as possible maybe to the end to say one, I’m last man standing where is my trophy and two, doing a deal to see how much of that 3.5 billion he gets for being in it for 5/6 days |
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"The champions league changes in 2024 with every club guaranteed 10 games. Anyone complaining about that yet or are they happy being in that cartel?"
Happy to be part of that "cartel" if we have earned it as opposed to being paid to play in a league built on greed and arrogance |
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"The champions league changes in 2024 with every club guaranteed 10 games. Anyone complaining about that yet or are they happy being in that cartel?"
Everyone guaranteed ten games.. fair competition ..
Highwaymen under a different guise |
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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago
the valleys |
"While I'm against it I think it will eventually happen but under UEFA and fifa guidelines the likely scenario for the current one is that some total banker from JP Morgan has watched their kids playing fifa21 on the ps5 and seen them setting up a league checked his wallet then asked his kids if they wanted that league for Christmas but for an example you only have to look at cricket 40 odd years ago they told Kerry Packer his vision of a fast paced colourful version of the game involving the world's best players was a pipe dream at best and just look what we have today with the IPL being the crown jewel in world domestic cricket lots of money invested from outside business interests but no actual control of the game other than ICC so I wouldn't say goodbye completely to a European league just see you sometime soon. Yes the T20 and One day cricket we see now was pretty much born by what Kerry Packer did all those years ago. Do you think under UEFA / FIFA guidelines we could see say a football tournament / league of say 8 a side with 30 minutes a half.Or even the power leagues we have now for 5 a side or 6 a side been a lucrative way to take football in a different direction "
I'm not sure what format could or would work for football maybe going back to its roots and letting players tackle each other like they used to in the good old days maybe it's a chance to introduce a wage cap to stop teams dominating leagues with wealth or at the very least invest in some acting coaches for certain players and to quote my brother
"Tottenham! Tottenham in a super league that's like bananaman being called up for the avengers!" |
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"While I'm against it I think it will eventually happen but under UEFA and fifa guidelines the likely scenario for the current one is that some total banker from JP Morgan has watched their kids playing fifa21 on the ps5 and seen them setting up a league checked his wallet then asked his kids if they wanted that league for Christmas but for an example you only have to look at cricket 40 odd years ago they told Kerry Packer his vision of a fast paced colourful version of the game involving the world's best players was a pipe dream at best and just look what we have today with the IPL being the crown jewel in world domestic cricket lots of money invested from outside business interests but no actual control of the game other than ICC so I wouldn't say goodbye completely to a European league just see you sometime soon. Yes the T20 and One day cricket we see now was pretty much born by what Kerry Packer did all those years ago. Do you think under UEFA / FIFA guidelines we could see say a football tournament / league of say 8 a side with 30 minutes a half.Or even the power leagues we have now for 5 a side or 6 a side been a lucrative way to take football in a different direction
I'm not sure what format could or would work for football maybe going back to its roots and letting players tackle each other like they used to in the good old days maybe it's a chance to introduce a wage cap to stop teams dominating leagues with wealth or at the very least invest in some acting coaches for certain players and to quote my brother
"Tottenham! Tottenham in a super league that's like bananaman being called up for the avengers!""
Surely those buggers were not invited.. more chance of Southend winning than those imposters |
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"The champions league changes in 2024 with every club guaranteed 10 games. Anyone complaining about that yet or are they happy being in that cartel?
Happy to be part of that "cartel" if we have earned it as opposed to being paid to play in a league built on greed and arrogance "
earned it by coming 4th in Italy or England but 4 times winners Ajax play 3 qualifiers to be allowed in because they dont play in a country with a big enough TV revenue? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The concept of a European football super league is based on the American sporting franchise model such as NFL, NBA and Baseball. Even the fledgling MLS has the same traits as the European super league.
For the investors the model of a group of invited participants playing each other a guaranteed number of times brings certainty which in turn attracts fans, sponsors and advertisers.
It’s an American model that pays big money to the participants but devoid of the healthy competition that is currently the theme in European footy. It works well for a nation that by and large has the concentration span of a fruit fly? |
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"The concept of a European football super league is based on the American sporting franchise model such as NFL, NBA and Baseball. Even the fledgling MLS has the same traits as the European super league.
For the investors the model of a group of invited participants playing each other a guaranteed number of times brings certainty which in turn attracts fans, sponsors and advertisers.
It’s an American model that pays big money to the participants but devoid of the healthy competition that is currently the theme in European footy. It works well for a nation that by and large has the concentration span of a fruit fly? "
I think it would work well here...moron football fans paying even more to follow these ballerina cowboys |
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"Spurs are out
BBC saying all six out, statement to confirm later...
Good to hear
Think after Klopp yesterday and Pep today plus the players coming out it was doomed..
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Klopp will be sacked in the morning..he should have taken the German job |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The last decent Spurs player was that Australian guy and that was years ago..
Crocodile Dundee?
No.. Ossie Ardilles...
I think he was from Brisbane "
Brisbane in Argentina? |
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"Spurs are out
BBC saying all six out, statement to confirm later...
Good to hear
Think after Klopp yesterday and Pep today plus the players coming out it was doomed..
I’m glad it is"
Ditto..
Changing your name back? |
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"Spurs are out
BBC saying all six out, statement to confirm later...
Good to hear
Think after Klopp yesterday and Pep today plus the players coming out it was doomed..
I’m glad it is
Ditto..
Changing your name back? "
It’s in the pipeline |
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"Spurs are out
BBC saying all six out, statement to confirm later...
Good to hear
Think after Klopp yesterday and Pep today plus the players coming out it was doomed..
I’m glad it is
Ditto..
Changing your name back?
It’s in the pipeline "
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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago
High Wycombe |
"Kane and Son will be out soon and they will be mid table at best...
Kane and Son is a firm of undertakers based on the old Kent road?
Well they are both on the way out"
Kane has three years left on his contract and Levy won't sell him |
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By *pertureTV/TS
over a year ago
New Ferry, wirral in stockings and sussies |
Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
Now its time for sanctions against these clubs.
Their Chairmen have been secretly negotiating this deal for months, with the sole purpose of stiching everyone else up.
Pathetic club statements saying "we didn't want to get left behind" just don't cut it. Its greedy deceit and nothing else.
And if clubs want to reduce their huge debts, stop paying bang average players, like Ozil and Bale, millions NOT to be playing! |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
"Now its time for sanctions against these clubs.
Their Chairmen have been secretly negotiating this deal for months, with the sole purpose of stiching everyone else up.
Pathetic club statements saying "we didn't want to get left behind" just don't cut it. Its greedy deceit and nothing else.
And if clubs want to reduce their huge debts, stop paying bang average players, like Ozil and Bale, millions NOT to be playing! "
several reports that this has been five years in planning and they were just waiting the opertune moment to announce it think the teams involved are actualy in a much weaker position as they have been seen to crumble under pressure from fans players and media |
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile."
Post of the week.. |
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile."
Why do you think the government was so quick to jump in on this? As soon as they saw the fans were against it they knew it could be a vote winner among the permanently thick, good old Boris stopped the greed and coruption. If those cunts had of thought of a way to get money for themselves out of it they would have backed it to the hilt.
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile.Why do you think the government was so quick to jump in on this? As soon as they saw the fans were against it they knew it could be a vote winner among the permanently thick, good old Boris stopped the greed and coruption. If those cunts had of thought of a way to get money for themselves out of it they would have backed it to the hilt. "
Post of the week. I was thinking this as the politicians were saying it |
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile.Why do you think the government was so quick to jump in on this? As soon as they saw the fans were against it they knew it could be a vote winner among the permanently thick, good old Boris stopped the greed and coruption. If those cunts had of thought of a way to get money for themselves out of it they would have backed it to the hilt. "
They must think us voters are stupid and can’t see through the bullshit.. |
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile.Why do you think the government was so quick to jump in on this? As soon as they saw the fans were against it they knew it could be a vote winner among the permanently thick, good old Boris stopped the greed and coruption. If those cunts had of thought of a way to get money for themselves out of it they would have backed it to the hilt. They must think us voters are stupid and can’t see through the bullshit.."
They do. Why else would they be robbing the country right in front of our faces knowing nothing will be done. They literally take us for lower class pieces of shit and who can blame them when they keep getting voted in. |
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile."
I love this post. Maybe we can use what has happened to the ESL as an example of the collective power we have to shake the world and change what really needs to be changed.
We won’t be fully free until everyone feels free. |
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"Imagine a world where people were as upset about coruption in government, war, homelesness, starving children as they are about 22 milionaires running round a field kicking a ball, now that would be worthwhile.
I love this post. Maybe we can use what has happened to the ESL as an example of the collective power we have to shake the world and change what really needs to be changed.
We won’t be fully free until
everyone feels free. "
We will never be free |
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"People more interested in football leagues and loyalties than the Keith Floyd trial
Are you referring to the George Floyd trial?"
Haha, the Keith Floyd trial.
Was he found d*unk in charge of a fish. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People more interested in football leagues and loyalties than the Keith Floyd trial
Keith Floyd was a celebrity cook...............
No.. he was killed by the police"
I think you will find it was George Floyd who was the subject of a brutal racist attack leading to his death. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A fish?
Keith Floyd was a celebrity chef who specialised in fish.
He consumed large quantities of red wine whilst presenting the show and was usually half pissed.
Really ?"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56829219 |
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"A fish?
Keith Floyd was a celebrity chef who specialised in fish.
He consumed large quantities of red wine whilst presenting the show and was usually half pissed.
Really ?"
Are you being obtuse Tom |
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"A fish?
Keith Floyd was a celebrity chef who specialised in fish.
He consumed large quantities of red wine whilst presenting the show and was usually half pissed.
Really ?
Are you being obtuse Tom "
Obtuse...? That's to with angles ? |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
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"The concept of a European football super league is based on the American sporting franchise model such as NFL, NBA and Baseball. Even the fledgling MLS has the same traits as the European super league.
For the investors the model of a group of invited participants playing each other a guaranteed number of times brings certainty which in turn attracts fans, sponsors and advertisers.
It’s an American model that pays big money to the participants but devoid of the healthy competition that is currently the theme in European footy. It works well for a nation that by and large has the concentration span of a fruit fly? "
This I think was not being done for the European market. It was being aimed at the Asian market. There being a big viewing potential for games. The clubs are the most well known etc outside of their national countries . So a big money earner, while no earnings at present from matches in UK etc. Would not get money for pay per view . But get viewing deals with Asian broadcasters. |
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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago
High Wycombe |
It was definitely done for Asian fans. Especially since the statement of them launching it went live late in Europe but just in time for Asia.
Also telling that it wasn't called The European Super League so that it could expand with other teams around the world |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"The concept of a European football super league is based on the American sporting franchise model such as NFL, NBA and Baseball. Even the fledgling MLS has the same traits as the European super league.
For the investors the model of a group of invited participants playing each other a guaranteed number of times brings certainty which in turn attracts fans, sponsors and advertisers.
It’s an American model that pays big money to the participants but devoid of the healthy competition that is currently the theme in European footy. It works well for a nation that by and large has the concentration span of a fruit fly?
This I think was not being done for the European market. It was being aimed at the Asian market. There being a big viewing potential for games. The clubs are the most well known etc outside of their national countries . So a big money earner, while no earnings at present from matches in UK etc. Would not get money for pay per view . But get viewing deals with Asian broadcasters. "
it was all about streaming matches to the far east at the inconveniance to the "legacy fans" whom by and large are now an irrealvance other than to provide atmosphere .they didnt 3xpect the "legacy fans " to object like they did |
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"People more interested in football leagues and loyalties than the Keith Floyd trial
Stick to trying to solve the life threatening case of the escaped ostriches /rheas
A thread for everyone "
Absolutely Sir,,,,, but we all have our niche of expertise |
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