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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Missing you x

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By *wingsnroundabouts82Couple  over a year ago

Fucksville

I'm confused....

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By *nvincible ButterflyWoman  over a year ago

LEEDS

Who are you to judge the way other people swing?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

*takes notes*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Swingers are traditionally middle aged and podgy. The men choose who they will fuck (anyone who offers). No time for chat, get the jizz on the curtains.

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By *iss.ddWoman  over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

Say what now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose....

"

So, that’s covered both sides then... Thanks.

This was actually a very good point.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Later? I can be available around 3.45 PM.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Boss!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think he’s saying swingers need filing cabinets. and a year planner.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Will this lecture be available on audio?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think you're thinking of old style porn films where the women could never keep a towel on around themselves and the men kept tripping over and penetrating a woman who always cushiones their fall.

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

I resemble the clumsy remark.

I can trip over myself when sitting down!

Not sure how that alone makes me a shit swinger though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What about the non swingers? Is there a lecture for them too?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh for the love of Jebus what are you on about OP?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South

The world is full of fucked up people. Why should Fab be any different?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What was the point in this thread OP?

You have made a statement that doesn't make a lot of sense and then made it clear you are not going to comment further.

It seems to me you a little frustrated that people won't just get into bed with you without a chat and getting to know you.

For many thats not what swinging is about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh for the love of Jebus what are you on about OP?

"

Year planners

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By *atricia ParnelWoman  over a year ago

In a town full of colours


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"

Are you thinking of the nsa keys in bowl parties OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Boss! "
Sent you a message x

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By *nvincible ButterflyWoman  over a year ago

LEEDS


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable?

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By *icassolifelikeMan  over a year ago

Luton

Ah! So that’s why I keep spilling my coffee

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool

You're totally right OP. Clumsy old me has broken so many dicks. Oopsy!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

"

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like a connection and coffee please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."

That doesn't answer my question.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok mr perfect swinger god

Nobody gets to decide who can and cannot swing.

To try to dictate that is just hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."

Ironic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye."

So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...

It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,

Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? "

Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!

Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."

Don't ruin my day. This is the only hour I get free from the straitjacket and padded cell and when they are not watching.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."

For a bloke who wasn’t going to comment after the original post, you sure are commenting a lot,

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye.

So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...

It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,

Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself "

Why so defensive?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's an interaction. Observe and learn.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others.

For a bloke who wasn’t going to comment after the original post, you sure are commenting a lot,"

Well it's not right to leave others wondering what I was trying to get at.

I was always going to return to see others thoughts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.

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By *nvincible ButterflyWoman  over a year ago

LEEDS


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!

Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species."

Ah but having them wonder if I'm even from the same species keeps it fun on here

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?

Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others.

Don't ruin my day. This is the only hour I get free from the straitjacket and padded cell and when they are not watching."

Good Morning!

Come back later.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan  over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Oh dear Oh dear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At some point, the stuff, and those using it; will no doubt be in order.

Then we can get back to our normal routines.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?

Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.

"

I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!

I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.

I'm talking about people generally on this site.

Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.

I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!

I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.

I'm talking about people generally on this site.

Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?"

Pandemic and shit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Before criticising others, the mirror is often the first place you should look OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings "

I done the same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.

I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!

I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.

I'm talking about people generally on this site.

Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?"

Erm....boss, we've been in lockdown or did you not get that memo?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings

I done the same "

Green Arrow

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?

Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back "

I will educate you...who mentioned perfect body...or perfection of emotions or mentality.

But surely there is a space where humans interact in a way that makes sense?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.

I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!

I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.

I'm talking about people generally on this site.

Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?"

Firstly I didn't mention the forums and secondly no i haven't been out and about recently because actually alot of what I normally get up to has been against the law since December.

I was trying to understand where you were coming from but I think I will leave it here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye.

So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...

It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,

Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself Why so defensive?"

Thats not defense, for one who promotes self work, you should see that was me merely, responding in my clumsy emotional state, trying my best to stop myself rocking in the corner

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings

I done the same

Green Arrow

"

I love this attitude...because I might not hang around like some? Read the rest of the profile that requires a lot more than that! Use your eyes YOU have no respect.

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By *nvincible ButterflyWoman  over a year ago

LEEDS

Right I best go trip my way in to the shower to get my shit together for work.

Have a great day you clumsy fabbers

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.

I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!

I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.

I'm talking about people generally on this site.

Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?

Pandemic and shit "

I've been here before...pre-pandemic slightly better (laugh) but still...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?

Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back I will educate you...who mentioned perfect body...or perfection of emotions or mentality.

But surely there is a space where humans interact in a way that makes sense?"

It's implied considering a perfect human is impossible. We all our little flaws / wobbles or moments somewhere. I'm not sure what part of fab doesn't make sense to you all of a sudden because it hasn't changed. Were you expecting something different on your return?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

yet another car crash thread..

smile and wave.. Wooooosaaaaa P.

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend

It's true ..us blokes have huge cocks that knock over things....and the women all have huge boobs that get stuck in doorways and force them onto all fours so their big round bums wave in the air ...where our big cocks end up sliding into them by accident

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't like Coffee so I gain half a point with that one I think.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't trust a word you say, you said you wasn't going to comment but here you are, commenting away.

This thread is built on a thrones of lieesss

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"

Hmm. Imagine that!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings "

Ramblings? I could talk you off the top deck of a ship Lol

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By *iss.ddWoman  over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

Is this shit real or am I in a fever dream

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings Ramblings? I could talk you off the top deck of a ship Lol"

I couldn't really care less to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now

I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings Ramblings? I could talk you off the top deck of a ship Lol"

What about the poop deck

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's true ..us blokes have huge cocks that knock over things....and the women all have huge boobs that get stuck in doorways and force them onto all fours so their big round bums wave in the air ...where our big cocks end up sliding into them by accident "
By that comment (joking or not) you play into the accepted stereotype!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

yet another car crash thread..

smile and wave.. Wooooosaaaaa P. "

I don't drive...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this shit real or am I in a fever dream"

'Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide no escape from reality

Open your eyes look up to the skies and see

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy.'

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I think you're thinking of old style porn films where the women could never keep a towel on around themselves and the men kept tripping over and penetrating a woman who always cushiones their fall."
Never been deceived by porn but it is amazing how many peoples sex lives are porn influenced.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is this shit real or am I in a fever dream

'Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide no escape from reality

Open your eyes look up to the skies and see

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy.'"

Sounds like a song?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think you're thinking of old style porn films where the women could never keep a towel on around themselves and the men kept tripping over and penetrating a woman who always cushiones their fall. Never been deceived by porn but it is amazing how many peoples sex lives are porn influenced."

You speak the truth there.

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By *ocksareoffMan  over a year ago

Out n About


"

yet another car crash thread..

smile and wave.. Wooooosaaaaa P. "

Pop corns at the ready

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By *asmeenTV/TS  over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Welcome back

Op

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By *elle xWoman  over a year ago

Doire Theas

I am a very organised person but I am rather clumsy

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The world is full of fucked up people. Why should Fab be any different? "
Help, I'm a celebrity get me out of here!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

'Let it go, let it go

Can't hold it back anymore

Let it go, let it go

Turn away and slam the door'

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By *offiaCoolWoman  over a year ago

Kidsgrove

Your opinion doesn't interest me nor impact how I use this site.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. "

Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Give me a bit of nervousness and naivety any day over a come in and fuck

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?

Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back I will educate you...who mentioned perfect body...or perfection of emotions or mentality.

But surely there is a space where humans interact in a way that makes sense?"

Bit of a contradiction there OP, you're making no sense.

Are you secretly one of the clumsy ones

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By *isAdventure69Woman  over a year ago

Hampshire

I'm flexible on the coffee , I can rough it with prosecco but if there isn't cake .... I'm out

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Give me a bit of nervousness and naivety any day over a come in and fuck"
What I'm talking about goes way beyond nervousness and naivety!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be."

It is always their choice, and no one else’s.

You can’t interfere in other peoples processes. That’s for them, and then alone.

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By *nnie2009Couple  over a year ago

Blackpool


"Oh for the love of Jebus what are you on about OP?

"

don't think he knows himself lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!

Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species."

So those struggling emotionally are not of the same species? Wow, glad we got that cleared up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye.

So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...

It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,

Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself "

The idea of not being judgemental is not the same as having good judgment.

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By *oudLoutishLoverWoman  over a year ago

Colchester


"I like a connection and coffee please "

Same.

Without intellectual stimulation, the sex is shit.

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By *edeWoman  over a year ago

the abyss

So when I find a penis inside me (I can dream) it's not swinging - just clumsy? Awesome!! Thanks OP

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By *gent CoulsonMan  over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

I enjoy a good fumble

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be."

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!

Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species.

So those struggling emotionally are not of the same species? Wow, glad we got that cleared up. "

Have you never been shocked by another's behaviour that has left you wondering "what is this!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!

Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species.

So those struggling emotionally are not of the same species? Wow, glad we got that cleared up. Have you never been shocked by another's behaviour that has left you wondering "what is this!"

"

Shocked yes, but I've never questioned how human they are. We all live different lives, in different ways. Swinging is about people. You can't expect everyone to be the same

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen "

I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free, "

It’s great advice. Someone told me this many years ago. When things go well for you look out the window at your team and friends , when things go badly look in the mirror at yourself. So many people get it the wrong way around !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye.

So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...

It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,

Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself The idea of not being judgemental is not the same as having good judgment."

So two totally different things, ill not write an essay on it,as I'm bumbling my way through a essay on applied psychology what do I know tho, but if your intrested Look at Carl Rodgers and person centered therapy, for an insight

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

"

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

.....

Bye."

Glad you returned OP

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By *inkylipsWoman  over a year ago

Debauchery

Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives "

What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar "
I'll have a hobnob over a snickers tho

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By *inkylipsWoman  over a year ago

Debauchery


"Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar I'll have a hobnob over a snickers tho "

Ooooh hobnob, no they are all mine

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar "
Don't take this wrong but coincidentally Snickers was my favourite bar!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example."

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results

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By *inkylipsWoman  over a year ago

Debauchery


"Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar Don't take this wrong but coincidentally Snickers was my favourite bar!"

See I know the needs of men

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar Don't take this wrong but coincidentally Snickers was my favourite bar!"

I had a Snickers bar last night.

We used to call them Marathon.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Your opinion doesn't interest me nor impact how I use this site."
"It's good to talk"

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"Your opinion doesn't interest me nor impact how I use this site. "It's good to talk""

I thought you said it isn't good to talk.

Stop confusing me

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By *inkylipsWoman  over a year ago

Debauchery


"Do you need a cup of tea and a snickers bar Don't take this wrong but coincidentally Snickers was my favourite bar!

I had a Snickers bar last night.

We used to call them Marathon."

Yes we did a few years ago.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results "

Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Your opinion doesn't interest me nor impact how I use this site. "It's good to talk"

I thought you said it isn't good to talk.

Stop confusing me

"

Stop confusing me

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"Your opinion doesn't interest me nor impact how I use this site. "It's good to talk"

I thought you said it isn't good to talk.

Stop confusing me

Stop confusing me "

Stop copying me!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?"

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time""

So your method is no method?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time" So your method is no method?"

...Not limited to constant emotional instability I don't think that is what I said.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time""

Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"

Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change."

all about making that decision to change, but first recognising change is needed thats the hard bit, accepting there is a problem, as denial keeps us safe in emotionally unstable times

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"

Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change."

...which If you do not change might have unfortunate consequences?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"

Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change....which If you do not change might have unfortunate consequences?

"

Probably/possibly/maybe, but it’s still your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time" So your method is no method?...Not limited to constant emotional instability I don't think that is what I said."

"They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later". No not directly you didn't but reading between the lines of what you initially said the implications was there

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By *ausageNmashCouple  over a year ago

Andover


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye."

Ok

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.

I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.

So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.

No forward movement without effort.

Sometimes to move forward we have to change.

Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.

Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..

I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.

But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.

Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?

Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.

Say timekeeping for example.

So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??

If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.

Is it not possible that

the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?

It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.

Agreed?

So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...

Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....

I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"

Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change....which If you do not change might have unfortunate consequences?

Probably/possibly/maybe, but it’s still your choice."

Consequences come in good and back, but to recieve them we still have to make the decision to change or not to change

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Welcome back

Op"

Thanks.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London

Should I work on my Id, my Ego or my Superego?

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By *ornyhappyCouple  over a year ago

perth


"to be swingers....

They really haven't got their stuff in order.

Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.

No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.

* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.

Bye."

I disagree.

I also enjoy coffee and conversation.

K (fem)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Should I work on my Id, my Ego or my Superego?"

Which one you running on today lol

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Should I work on my Id, my Ego or my Superego?"

All of them. Always room for improvement.

I've been working on the kitchen today

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend


"Should I work on my Id, my Ego or my Superego?

All of them. Always room for improvement.

I've been working on the kitchen today"

I've been carefully preparing lunch in my kitchen .. trying not to spill the whole thing on the floor

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By *ecadent_DevonMan  over a year ago

Okehampton

It’s like debating a fortune cookie.....

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By *eoeclipseWoman  over a year ago

glasgow


"I think he’s saying swingers need filing cabinets. and a year planner."

Uh oh! Did someone double book themselves...would think that'd be an issue here

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

Meh, I thought getting to know people so ya don't find something out about them later down the line that makes ya wanna disinfect yourself on the inside was the opposite of clumsy.

Surely clumsy would be rushing into something you'd regret?

What do I know tho, I'm emotionally unstable

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend


"I think he’s saying swingers need filing cabinets. and a year planner.

Uh oh! Did someone double book themselves...would think that'd be an issue here "

Time for a spreadsheet??...or a spreadie sheet....or spread out a rubber sheet?

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By *lym4realCouple  over a year ago

plymouth

Well....Conversation that implies some kind of thought process and hence critical thinking ...as in ..doing the same old thing over and over and over again...BUT expecting different results ?? but to be 100% honest the reason we go through so many pair of curtains is the wear & tear and volume of jizz on them after nigh on endless males wiping their knobs on them as they depart leaving mrs4 strictly ???

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By *lym4realCouple  over a year ago

plymouth

In the front room and bedroom and have hung curtains in our hallway now as some can't make it either room ...looks like a bad porn cinema though ..glad when the charity shops open as getting way to expensive now ..did try dust sheets but some complained it chaffed their still sensitive bell ends ..

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By *len and LouiseCouple  over a year ago

Darenth

Pretentious Moi?????

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By *ustme34Man  over a year ago

Bradford

So do i get a coffee or not

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By *rder66Man  over a year ago

Tatooine

I may not have the emotional maturity to read this thread.

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By *traight up guyMan  over a year ago

Morpeth

Clumsy having a profile saying no photos are more than a month old and then having one date stamped 0ct 2020!

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading


"I think he’s saying swingers need filing cabinets. and a year planner."

I certainly need my Google calendar or things would be a mess.

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By *lym4realCouple  over a year ago

plymouth

At the moment don't really need a planner ??? surely ??? but might do soon ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have an emotional hole.

...I mean I am an emotional hole.... Emotionally whole. Do I get sex?

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By *egasus NobMan  over a year ago

Merton

You are looking at it from the average guy point of view. Put yourself in the women’s POV.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Disagree.

I wonder if this is in response to unanswered messages or not getting what someone wants.

Very judgmental OP.

Perfectly imperfect here.

What's more important is being self aware, that's kinda hot.

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By *an4funMan  over a year ago

london


"

...I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite)..."

Ain't that the sad sorry truth

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s like debating a fortune cookie....."

And not as satisfying.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.

I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.

By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?

Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!

Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species."

I think you would be better off taking this up personally with the clumsy swingers that offend you rather than issuing an edict on here.

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