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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Swingers are traditionally middle aged and podgy. The men choose who they will fuck (anyone who offers). No time for chat, get the jizz on the curtains. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose....
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So, that’s covered both sides then... Thanks. 
This was actually a very good point.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think you're thinking of old style porn films where the women could never keep a towel on around themselves and the men kept tripping over and penetrating a woman who always cushiones their fall. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What was the point in this thread OP?
You have made a statement that doesn't make a lot of sense and then made it clear you are not going to comment further.
It seems to me you a little frustrated that people won't just get into bed with you without a chat and getting to know you.
For many thats not what swinging is about. |
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"
Are you thinking of the nsa keys in bowl parties OP
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
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Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."
That doesn't answer my question.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."
Ironic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye."
So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...
It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,
Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? "
Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!
Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."
Don't ruin my day. This is the only hour I get free from the straitjacket and padded cell and when they are not watching. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others."
For a bloke who wasn’t going to comment after the original post, you sure are commenting a lot, |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye.
So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...
It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,
Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself "
Why so defensive? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others.
For a bloke who wasn’t going to comment after the original post, you sure are commenting a lot,"
Well it's not right to leave others wondering what I was trying to get at.
I was always going to return to see others thoughts. |
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!
Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species."
Ah but having them wonder if I'm even from the same species keeps it fun on here  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
And how do you decide who is emotionally whole?
Emotionally whole or mentally stable by how they present themselves or interact with others.
Don't ruin my day. This is the only hour I get free from the straitjacket and padded cell and when they are not watching."
Good Morning!
Come back later. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?
Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.
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I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!
I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.
I'm talking about people generally on this site.
Maybe some of you do not get out and about much? |
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"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.
I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!
I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.
I'm talking about people generally on this site.
Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?"
Pandemic and shit |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.
I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!
I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.
I'm talking about people generally on this site.
Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?"
Erm....boss, we've been in lockdown or did you not get that memo? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?
Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back "
I will educate you...who mentioned perfect body...or perfection of emotions or mentality.
But surely there is a space where humans interact in a way that makes sense? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.
I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!
I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.
I'm talking about people generally on this site.
Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?"
Firstly I didn't mention the forums and secondly no i haven't been out and about recently because actually alot of what I normally get up to has been against the law since December.
I was trying to understand where you were coming from but I think I will leave it here.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye.
So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...
It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,
Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself Why so defensive?"
Thats not defense, for one who promotes self work, you should see that was me merely, responding in my clumsy emotional state, trying my best to stop myself rocking in the corner |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now
I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings 
I done the same
Green Arrow
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I love this attitude...because I might not hang around like some? Read the rest of the profile that requires a lot more than that! Use your eyes YOU have no respect. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Could you please explain how you expect people to interact with on here OP.
I'm not necessarily talking about the forum (though you may think you are the elite) by the look of some of the comments!
I have never had an issue with my treatment on here (forum) I have large shoulders.
I'm talking about people generally on this site.
Maybe some of you do not get out and about much?
Pandemic and shit "
I've been here before...pre-pandemic slightly better (laugh) but still... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?
Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back I will educate you...who mentioned perfect body...or perfection of emotions or mentality.
But surely there is a space where humans interact in a way that makes sense?"
It's implied considering a perfect human is impossible. We all our little flaws / wobbles or moments somewhere. I'm not sure what part of fab doesn't make sense to you all of a sudden because it hasn't changed. Were you expecting something different on your return? |
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It's true ..us blokes have huge cocks that knock over things....and the women all have huge boobs that get stuck in doorways and force them onto all fours so their big round bums wave in the air ...where our big cocks end up sliding into them by accident |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?"
Hmm. Imagine that!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now
I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings "
Ramblings? I could talk you off the top deck of a ship Lol |
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"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now
I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings Ramblings? I could talk you off the top deck of a ship Lol"
I couldn't really care less to be honest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Took a peek.... Spied the kik handle. It all makes sense now
I knew there was something familiar about these ramblings Ramblings? I could talk you off the top deck of a ship Lol"
What about the poop deck |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It's true ..us blokes have huge cocks that knock over things....and the women all have huge boobs that get stuck in doorways and force them onto all fours so their big round bums wave in the air ...where our big cocks end up sliding into them by accident "
By that comment (joking or not) you play into the accepted stereotype! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is this shit real or am I in a fever dream"
'Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide no escape from reality
Open your eyes look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy.' |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think you're thinking of old style porn films where the women could never keep a towel on around themselves and the men kept tripping over and penetrating a woman who always cushiones their fall."
Never been deceived by porn but it is amazing how many peoples sex lives are porn influenced.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is this shit real or am I in a fever dream
'Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide no escape from reality
Open your eyes look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy.'"
Sounds like a song? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think you're thinking of old style porn films where the women could never keep a towel on around themselves and the men kept tripping over and penetrating a woman who always cushiones their fall. Never been deceived by porn but it is amazing how many peoples sex lives are porn influenced."
You speak the truth there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. "
Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So am I reading this right, we all need to be perfectly emotionally and mentally stable with a body that is naturally perfect or we shouldn't be on here?
Damn, that wasn't in the memo when I came back I will educate you...who mentioned perfect body...or perfection of emotions or mentality.
But surely there is a space where humans interact in a way that makes sense?"
Bit of a contradiction there OP, you're making no sense.
Are you secretly one of the clumsy ones |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be."
It is always their choice, and no one else’s.
You can’t interfere in other peoples processes. That’s for them, and then alone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!
Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species."
So those struggling emotionally are not of the same species? Wow, glad we got that cleared up. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye.
So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...
It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,
Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself "
The idea of not being judgemental is not the same as having good judgment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be."
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!
Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species.
So those struggling emotionally are not of the same species? Wow, glad we got that cleared up. "
Have you never been shocked by another's behaviour that has left you wondering "what is this!"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!
Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species.
So those struggling emotionally are not of the same species? Wow, glad we got that cleared up. Have you never been shocked by another's behaviour that has left you wondering "what is this!"
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Shocked yes, but I've never questioned how human they are. We all live different lives, in different ways. Swinging is about people. You can't expect everyone to be the same |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen "
I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free, "
It’s great advice. Someone told me this many years ago. When things go well for you look out the window at your team and friends , when things go badly look in the mirror at yourself. So many people get it the wrong way around ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye.
So not much work done on yourself, as shown the judgemental attitude of others....little tip for ya in working on yourself...
It works best if you look in the mirror, and not out the window at others...that one is free,
Its, B.O G.O.f Tues, if you dont go within you go without......no need to thank me Op, I'm to busy tripping over myself The idea of not being judgemental is not the same as having good judgment."
So two totally different things, ill not write an essay on it,as I'm bumbling my way through a essay on applied psychology what do I know tho, but if your intrested Look at Carl Rodgers and person centered therapy, for an insight |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives "
What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example. |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example."
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results |
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I had a Snickers bar last night.
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results "
Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
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"Your opinion doesn't interest me nor impact how I use this site. "It's good to talk"
I thought you said it isn't good to talk.
Stop confusing me 
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?"
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time" |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time""
So your method is no method? |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time" So your method is no method?"
...Not limited to constant emotional instability I don't think that is what I said. |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time""
Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change. |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"
Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change."
all about making that decision to change, but first recognising change is needed thats the hard bit, accepting there is a problem, as denial keeps us safe in emotionally unstable times |
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"
Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change."
...which If you do not change might have unfortunate consequences?
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"
Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change....which If you do not change might have unfortunate consequences?
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time" So your method is no method?...Not limited to constant emotional instability I don't think that is what I said."
"They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later". No not directly you didn't but reading between the lines of what you initially said the implications was there |
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye."
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"No one is emotionally whole, we are all continual works in progress, whether people choose to do that, is their choice and theirs alone.
I’ve done a lot of work recently, a HUGE amount with someone I met on here, and this place is a continual learning curve, of education and transformation.
So, no, I disagree with you. Whether others choose to work on themselves is sometimes their choice.
No forward movement without effort.
Sometimes to move forward we have to change.
Or remain the same which will not always be a good place to be.
Self improvement through working on self, is always the persons choice never anybody else's, it has to be done fir yourself nobody else, as through experience which teaches to change for anyone else only ever causes more pain..
I do agree sometimes we have to go back to move forward and allow the process of letting go and change to happen I'm not being 'argumentative' as I am in agreement with you over some things.
But I don't think life actually gives us as much freedom of choice as to whether we change or not.
Only if you allow it to have the control, we are the only ones who have the power to change the script of our lives What of things you might find a bit dutiful in life sometimes (we all have them) have you never had to make personal adjustments about them that were influenced by things outside of your power?
Which if you made adjustments in might not be helpful to you in the long run.
Say timekeeping for example.
So what your saying is because of a sense of obligation that mutes the necessity of change??
If you allow that to happen, then the negative loops of behaviour thoughts or feelings will continue, without identifying and application of knowledge through new coping mechanisms, keeping doing the same thing youll always get the same results Which means change is not as much a self choice (I think) as some may feel.
Is it not possible that
the squeeze of circumstance sometimes necessitates change?
It may not always be from 0 to 10 in one jump but slowly and surely breakthroughs.
Agreed?
So the initial thread you posed was about emotional instability yes?...
Change is always self choice when it comes to internal stuff, as per first post u made, external things may trigger that internal conflict, but its up to you whether you change it or not.....I was given one bit of great advice which ill share....
I was once told...."nobody is coming to save you, you can't save your face and your arse at the same time"
Exactly right, you may be triggered externally, but you still have to decide to change....which If you do not change might have unfortunate consequences?
Probably/possibly/maybe, but it’s still your choice."
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"to be swingers....
They really haven't got their stuff in order.
Do a bit of work on yourselves and come back later.
No further comments from me...you can either agree or disagree.
* In my opinion swinging does not have to involve cups of coffee and deep conversation etc but can if you so choose.
Bye."
I disagree.
I also enjoy coffee and conversation.
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All of them. Always room for improvement.
I've been working on the kitchen today"
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Meh, I thought getting to know people so ya don't find something out about them later down the line that makes ya wanna disinfect yourself on the inside was the opposite of clumsy.
Surely clumsy would be rushing into something you'd regret?
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"I think he’s saying swingers need filing cabinets. and a year planner.
Uh oh! Did someone double book themselves...would think that'd be an issue here "
Time for a spreadsheet??...or a spreadie sheet....or spread out a rubber sheet? |
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Disagree.
I wonder if this is in response to unanswered messages or not getting what someone wants.
Very judgmental OP.
Perfectly imperfect here.
What's more important is being self aware, that's kinda hot. |
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"Ok...I HAD to return to clarify.
I mean 'clumsy' in the way they interact with others.
By mentioning people who need to do work on themselves...imagine a person who is not emotionally whole or stable...yet wants to 'swing'?
Most of us have lives too therefore don't have time to be sat on here sending endless messages... Plus is anyone wholely emotionally stable? Endless messages...you mean you dont message ANYONE!
Also you can be stable enough to not leave people wondering if you are from the same species."
I think you would be better off taking this up personally with the clumsy swingers that offend you rather than issuing an edict on here. |
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