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"Okay so since I last wrote about my situation where I’d turned up at that guys house at 5am things have just got progressively worse. Following that I worked with him Saturday to Monday. Saturday I went home early cos he blanked me in work which upset me, Sunday I went home early again cos he was still off with me. Monday I almost didn’t go in but I did and he was being nice to me again, even went home with him after work and yeah I slept with him. Before everyone says how stupid I am can I just remind you that as of today I’m 6 weeks into my weekly counselling sessions and so far we’ve established that I have anxious attachment and disorganised attachment, I have zero boundaries, CBT counselling isn’t working on me because I have the logic to know that any bad decision I make will just make the situation worse but I am physically/mentally unable to stop myself from doing stupid/crazy shit so comments like I should just walk away from him or anything similar, they’re just pointless. If a trained psychologist can’t reason with me, you lot aren’t going to be able to do it. I need to switch to humanistic and person centred therapy and possibly go down the medication route which I don’t want to do. So I’m mentally unwell ok, consider that when responding " Hello Annie. I’m new and I don’t know the issues before this thread. I haven’t read more than the first paragraph where you’ve talked about the diagnosis following your counselling sessions to date. This is really helpful as I know of someone who appears to have very many of the traits and symptoms you have mentioned about yourself. It’s such an eye opener for me and I now have a better understanding of the issues. I think it’s important that person gets some counselling and shall be advising them so accordingly. Thanks very much for this and I hope it gives you some comfort knowing that you have helped others by opening up this way. I wish you well with this issue and hope your counselling continues to help you. | |||
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"Okay so since I last wrote about my situation where I’d turned up at that guys house at 5am things have just got progressively worse. Following that I worked with him Saturday to Monday. Saturday I went home early cos he blanked me in work which upset me, Sunday I went home early again cos he was still off with me. Monday I almost didn’t go in but I did and he was being nice to me again, even went home with him after work and yeah I slept with him. Before everyone says how stupid I am can I just remind you that as of today I’m 6 weeks into my weekly counselling sessions and so far we’ve established that I have anxious attachment and disorganised attachment, I have zero boundaries, CBT counselling isn’t working on me because I have the logic to know that any bad decision I make will just make the situation worse but I am physically/mentally unable to stop myself from doing stupid/crazy shit so comments like I should just walk away from him or anything similar, they’re just pointless. If a trained psychologist can’t reason with me, you lot aren’t going to be able to do it. I need to switch to humanistic and person centred therapy and possibly go down the medication route which I don’t want to do. So I’m mentally unwell ok, consider that when responding Hello Annie. I’m new and I don’t know the issues before this thread. I haven’t read more than the first paragraph where you’ve talked about the diagnosis following your counselling sessions to date. This is really helpful as I know of someone who appears to have very many of the traits and symptoms you have mentioned about yourself. It’s such an eye opener for me and I now have a better understanding of the issues. I think it’s important that person gets some counselling and shall be advising them so accordingly. Thanks very much for this and I hope it gives you some comfort knowing that you have helped others by opening up this way. I wish you well with this issue and hope your counselling continues to help you." Now this makes me happy! If anything I write helps another person and stops them from feeling any hurt at all then all the shit I’ve gone through was worth it. | |||
"I just don’t understand how emotions can be so powerful and I wonder if other people feel things as strongly as I do. Also don’t understand myself at all. Like I can be so tough to the point I’m aggressive, I’m not frightened of anyone and my friends would be the first people to say that I don’t take any shit and in the very distant past I would be the first person to jump into a physical fight like in school or nights out when squabbles used to happen. I don’t shy away from any type of confrontation but then this other side of me where I’m literally screaming hysterical and crying and feel so hurt and vulnerable and like you knock me over with a feather. Also don’t understand how people can be so cold. Like if someone was crying to me and saying please can you just talk to me I could never be like no leave me alone we don’t need to speak. Agree totally that I need to stay single and not even be in the messaging stages with another guy. I’m not mentally equipped for it at the moment. I was fine before this guy, if brushed myself off from the last guy I had dealings with the previous year. I thought this guy was safe and not able to hurt me, thought he was just a young guy who had a bit of a crush on me and was grafting pretty hard to get me to spend time with me. " It's nice to feel wanted by a younger guy, the thrill of seeing someone you work with, the flattery of him working hard to get you. You let down your barriers which is why it's affecting you more. Don't be so hard on yourself x | |||
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"Okay so since I last wrote about my situation where I’d turned up at that guys house at 5am things have just got progressively worse. Following that I worked with him Saturday to Monday. Saturday I went home early cos he blanked me in work which upset me, Sunday I went home early again cos he was still off with me. Monday I almost didn’t go in but I did and he was being nice to me again, even went home with him after work and yeah I slept with him. Before everyone says how stupid I am can I just remind you that as of today I’m 6 weeks into my weekly counselling sessions and so far we’ve established that I have anxious attachment and disorganised attachment, I have zero boundaries, CBT counselling isn’t working on me because I have the logic to know that any bad decision I make will just make the situation worse but I am physically/mentally unable to stop myself from doing stupid/crazy shit so comments like I should just walk away from him or anything similar, they’re just pointless. If a trained psychologist can’t reason with me, you lot aren’t going to be able to do it. I need to switch to humanistic and person centred therapy and possibly go down the medication route which I don’t want to do. So I’m mentally unwell ok, consider that when responding Hello Annie. I’m new and I don’t know the issues before this thread. I haven’t read more than the first paragraph where you’ve talked about the diagnosis following your counselling sessions to date. This is really helpful as I know of someone who appears to have very many of the traits and symptoms you have mentioned about yourself. It’s such an eye opener for me and I now have a better understanding of the issues. I think it’s important that person gets some counselling and shall be advising them so accordingly. Thanks very much for this and I hope it gives you some comfort knowing that you have helped others by opening up this way. I wish you well with this issue and hope your counselling continues to help you. Now this makes me happy! If anything I write helps another person and stops them from feeling any hurt at all then all the shit I’ve gone through was worth it. " It has helped. My friend appears to spiral to a worse state and desperation with each rejection from the object of her desire. I was at a loss to know what to do for her. I’m very sorry you’re going through this as it’s very distressing for me to even see my friend in this state let alone imagine what it must be like to feel the sense of loss of control. All my best wishes for you but you certainly seem to be taking a giant leap in the right direction by removing yourself from daily contact with him, however inadvertently. | |||
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" It has helped. My friend appears to spiral to a worse state and desperation with each rejection from the object of her desire. I was at a loss to know what to do for her. I’m very sorry you’re going through this as it’s very distressing for me to even see my friend in this state let alone imagine what it must be like to feel the sense of loss of control. All my best wishes for you but you certainly seem to be taking a giant leap in the right direction by removing yourself from daily contact with him, however inadvertently." I can relate to this. My good male friend Ben can’t understand how I’m not getting tougher or more thick skinned after being rejected by a guy but it’s not in my nature or personality to be cold. Each time I’m rejected I feel like part of my soul gets taken. Like I try and rebuild my self worth and self esteem but when I experience any type of rejection they take more of my self worth and it doesn’t come back. | |||
" It has helped. My friend appears to spiral to a worse state and desperation with each rejection from the object of her desire. I was at a loss to know what to do for her. I’m very sorry you’re going through this as it’s very distressing for me to even see my friend in this state let alone imagine what it must be like to feel the sense of loss of control. All my best wishes for you but you certainly seem to be taking a giant leap in the right direction by removing yourself from daily contact with him, however inadvertently. I can relate to this. My good male friend Ben can’t understand how I’m not getting tougher or more thick skinned after being rejected by a guy but it’s not in my nature or personality to be cold. Each time I’m rejected I feel like part of my soul gets taken. Like I try and rebuild my self worth and self esteem but when I experience any type of rejection they take more of my self worth and it doesn’t come back. " Atm you are in the middle of the storm. Everything is too recent and painful. You need to give yourself time and distance. Think of it like a death in the family. You need to let the grieving process do its thing. You might be tempted to do a rebound or something to fill the void that you feel because of the rejection. But that's not going to help you. Time and distance and then you can start to find yourself again. | |||
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" It has helped. My friend appears to spiral to a worse state and desperation with each rejection from the object of her desire. I was at a loss to know what to do for her. I’m very sorry you’re going through this as it’s very distressing for me to even see my friend in this state let alone imagine what it must be like to feel the sense of loss of control. All my best wishes for you but you certainly seem to be taking a giant leap in the right direction by removing yourself from daily contact with him, however inadvertently. I can relate to this. My good male friend Ben can’t understand how I’m not getting tougher or more thick skinned after being rejected by a guy but it’s not in my nature or personality to be cold. Each time I’m rejected I feel like part of my soul gets taken. Like I try and rebuild my self worth and self esteem but when I experience any type of rejection they take more of my self worth and it doesn’t come back. " That sounds like her. She wants to cling on despite seeing that it’s utterly hopeless and the other party has clearly moved on. That seems to make it even worse. I don’t expect her to get tougher but it’s hard to know how to soothe her desperation and the destruction of her self worth. I will certainly get her to some therapy urgently, thanks to your thread. | |||
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"Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. " Is this a dig because I don’t see how it’s relevant to my situation? | |||
" It has helped. My friend appears to spiral to a worse state and desperation with each rejection from the object of her desire. I was at a loss to know what to do for her. I’m very sorry you’re going through this as it’s very distressing for me to even see my friend in this state let alone imagine what it must be like to feel the sense of loss of control. All my best wishes for you but you certainly seem to be taking a giant leap in the right direction by removing yourself from daily contact with him, however inadvertently. I can relate to this. My good male friend Ben can’t understand how I’m not getting tougher or more thick skinned after being rejected by a guy but it’s not in my nature or personality to be cold. Each time I’m rejected I feel like part of my soul gets taken. Like I try and rebuild my self worth and self esteem but when I experience any type of rejection they take more of my self worth and it doesn’t come back. That sounds like her. She wants to cling on despite seeing that it’s utterly hopeless and the other party has clearly moved on. That seems to make it even worse. I don’t expect her to get tougher but it’s hard to know how to soothe her desperation and the destruction of her self worth. I will certainly get her to some therapy urgently, thanks to your thread." Definitely get her to seek therapy. I’ve had to do it privately as I’m still waiting to be referred via my GP and this was back in 2019. | |||
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"Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. " That's really not helpful. | |||
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"Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. " You are absolutely right, it is a disorder. However, it’s the incorrect diagnosis here. I can attest to the fact that this is very similar to what I’ve seen my friend going through and it is certainly not based on narcissism. Whatever some people may want to post negatively, I thank the OP for the thread as I now know what to do next. | |||
" It has helped. My friend appears to spiral to a worse state and desperation with each rejection from the object of her desire. I was at a loss to know what to do for her. I’m very sorry you’re going through this as it’s very distressing for me to even see my friend in this state let alone imagine what it must be like to feel the sense of loss of control. All my best wishes for you but you certainly seem to be taking a giant leap in the right direction by removing yourself from daily contact with him, however inadvertently. I can relate to this. My good male friend Ben can’t understand how I’m not getting tougher or more thick skinned after being rejected by a guy but it’s not in my nature or personality to be cold. Each time I’m rejected I feel like part of my soul gets taken. Like I try and rebuild my self worth and self esteem but when I experience any type of rejection they take more of my self worth and it doesn’t come back. That sounds like her. She wants to cling on despite seeing that it’s utterly hopeless and the other party has clearly moved on. That seems to make it even worse. I don’t expect her to get tougher but it’s hard to know how to soothe her desperation and the destruction of her self worth. I will certainly get her to some therapy urgently, thanks to your thread. Definitely get her to seek therapy. I’ve had to do it privately as I’m still waiting to be referred via my GP and this was back in 2019. " Thanks, I shall. I’ve looked up a few and shall be get her to contact them tomorrow. I hope it helps you feel less alone in this knowing there are others. I love my friend dearly and it’s horrid watching her anguish and not really understanding it myself. | |||
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"I appreciate the feel free to private message offers on here and in my mailbox but I only really want to discuss things via the forums because although the intent may be innocent I’m learning how to have boundaries and don’t want to talk to people one on one (unless they’re female). " That’s a really tough step to take, I know, so good for you . | |||
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"I had another session this morning and she knows everything and I mean everything from the start when I knew him to present day and she said my gut feeling about him I had his card marked months ago and I should have stopped it then but we are working on my ability to have boundaries and just have the self worth to not accept any kind of mistreatment. Like even as simple as when he used to say at work we don’t know each other but was happy for me to go home with him yet he would speak to other girls in work. Like someone with healthy respect for themselves would be like right you act like you don’t know me fine then don’t know me. I just want to get to that place. It’s very hard when it all links back to your childhood. Like the primary care givers that were male like my step dad it’s like one day he battered me and a few days later it’s taking my clothes shopping to make up for it and I’ve kind of been hard wired to fit into the males lives that were around me in my childhood. It’s just mad the damage that can be done and I just implore everyone to really make an effort and be conscious of their actions with their children. I wish I could do my childhood again but knowing what I know now. " Annie you're an inspiration. Congratulations on beginning the work to reparent yourself, I have so much respect for you. I wish you much love and success on your journey. | |||