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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write? |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"When you are asked a question and you give a detailed answer , then receive a reply with one or two words with no effort. That grinds my gears."
Yup. And they say in their own profile not to write one sentence messages. |
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I don’t think it’s how something is written that particularly bothers me, it’s more what is written.
For example I can imagine somebody saying could of, now you purport that you shouldn’t write something you wouldn’t say; however if people wrote as a transcript that would finish me off.
There’s only so many so’s and like’s I can take.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It doesn’t matter on here cause it’s against forum rules to correct grammar, but I must admit my eyelids twitch when I see someone using the wrong ‘your’ or ‘you’re’ though. |
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None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When you are asked a question and you give a detailed answer , then receive a reply with one or two words with no effort. That grinds my gears.
Yup. And they say in their own profile not to write one sentence messages."
That’s the one right there. Head scratcher |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread. "
You are hiralious Meli. That must have taken a lot of effort. (Or should that be "must of"?) |
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"None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English."
I'm really bad with accents. Loads I can't understand.  |
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"None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English.
I'm really bad with accents. Loads I can't understand. "
I've always had that issue. Turned out it's because I've got hearing issues that were never diagnosed until a few years ago. Hearing aids help but still a struggle, especially on the phone |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread.
You are hiralious Meli. That must have taken a lot of effort. (Or should that be "must of"?)"
It really did! I'm very proud of it though.  |
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"None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English.
I'm really bad with accents. Loads I can't understand. "
I don’t think there’s a problem with that. Many people are the same but we don’t treat that the same way as we would poor command of written language which I find odd.
I find when I speak to uncles from the West Indies it takes me a while to clock what they are saying but I just have to pay a bit more attention.
Some accents and regional dialects are a nightmare to understand  |
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"Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread. "
I laughed  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English.
I'm really bad with accents. Loads I can't understand.
I've always had that issue. Turned out it's because I've got hearing issues that were never diagnosed until a few years ago. Hearing aids help but still a struggle, especially on the phone"
That's interesting, I struggle on the phone too. I might need a hearing test. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English.
I'm really bad with accents. Loads I can't understand.
I don’t think there’s a problem with that. Many people are the same but we don’t treat that the same way as we would poor command of written language which I find odd.
I find when I speak to uncles from the West Indies it takes me a while to clock what they are saying but I just have to pay a bit more attention.
Some accents and regional dialects are a nightmare to understand "
It's awful, I have to ask them to repeat what they said and I'm sure sometimes they think I'm taking the piss but I'm really not. 
American friends can understand really strong Scottish accents better than I can.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It’s really tricky.
There are those who are lucky because they got taught, and who aren’t dyslexic/foreign and managing speaking a different language(or a myriad of other reasons), and there are those who weren’t.
How do you know the difference? |
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I try to be relaxed about these things none of us is perfect and I have no idea about semi colons, colons etc.
But...
Should, could of really does make me bristle as does forfill fantasies and working progress.
I know it's because people write how they speak and I was about 25 before I realised that thank you was two words so... |
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"None of it really matters to me as long as I can read it without too much thought.
It’s not much different to me that struggling to understand someone having a different accent/dialect, or level of fluency with spoken English.
I'm really bad with accents. Loads I can't understand.
I've always had that issue. Turned out it's because I've got hearing issues that were never diagnosed until a few years ago. Hearing aids help but still a struggle, especially on the phone
That's interesting, I struggle on the phone too. I might need a hearing test. "
Had my initial one done as a freebie through specsavers. My mid range (so general speech frequencies) are buggered, but high and low are fine. Means i can hear moans and screaming just fine.....  |
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"It’s really tricky.
There are those who are lucky because they got taught, and who aren’t dyslexic/foreign and managing speaking a different language(or a myriad of other reasons), and there are those who weren’t.
How do you know the difference? "
I pretty much taught myself as didn't concentrate at school and also dyslexic.
As long as I can make out what's been said it doesn't really matter but it's just one of those things that grinds a little at times.
We all have a way to learn if have phones, just takes a little time to get it drilled in so you remember |
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
People who use "get" when they mean "become", starting a sentence with "But", inaccurate use of "literally" and confusing "writing as we speak" with "writing as it is spoken" (or possibly "said").
Interestingly people would not generally write "could of" for "could have" - they would write it for "could've" which is correct but drummed out of most children by teachers valuing archaic rules over learning.
We are all guilty of errors. If people say nice things I don't care how they do it.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
Do you konw taht if the frsit and lsat letetrs of the wrod are lfet and mdidle ltters are jeumbld, you can sittl raed it. |
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?
People who use "get" when they mean "become", starting a sentence with "But", inaccurate use of "literally" and confusing "writing as we speak" with "writing as it is spoken" (or possibly "said").
Interestingly people would not generally write "could of" for "could have" - they would write it for "could've" which is correct but drummed out of most children by teachers valuing archaic rules over learning.
We are all guilty of errors. If people say nice things I don't care how they do it. "
Could of isn't the long version of could've or have I misunderstood you? |
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?
People who use "get" when they mean "become", starting a sentence with "But", inaccurate use of "literally" and confusing "writing as we speak" with "writing as it is spoken" (or possibly "said").
Interestingly people would not generally write "could of" for "could have" - they would write it for "could've" which is correct but drummed out of most children by teachers valuing archaic rules over learning.
We are all guilty of errors. If people say nice things I don't care how they do it.
Could of isn't the long version of could've or have I misunderstood you?"
People say could've/of as they are phonetically very similar then continue the error when writing, so it seems unlikely they thought of "could have" even if it was the interpretation. All bets are off when writing speech, as "you can say it 'ow ya bleedin like, specially in 'Astings"
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Most spelling doesn't bother me if it's obvious what someone is trying to say. It's missing fullstops and commas etc that make things extremely difficult to follow sometimes. It can make a couple of sentences mean something completely different if not clear where one ends and another begins.... |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread. "
Was that painful to type and post?  |
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The average reading age in the UK is nine. It shows.
I could spend every waking moment copy-editing other people's writing, but it won't get me paid and it won't get me laid, so fuck it.
I routinely come across posts on here that are so broken I can't fully decipher what they're supposed to say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m an English teacher, so there are many, many things that infuriate me when it comes to people’s command of written language. Incorrect homophones are definitely number one on the list, for me. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"The average reading age in the UK is nine. It shows.
I could spend every waking moment copy-editing other people's writing, but it won't get me paid and it won't get me laid, so fuck it.
I routinely come across posts on here that are so broken I can't fully decipher what they're supposed to say. "
Where did you get that information from? |
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My friends call me the grammar police.... But it winds me up even more if I've made a mistake! It does get to me if spelling is off etc but if they're funny or they stand out I'll let it slide x I don't mean to be like this it's just a pet peeve |
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
People do say could of and not could have so it is writing in the vernacular. It doesn't bother me unless someone is correcting another person and gets it wrong lol
Was one on a thread the other day where someone thought they were bring clever but just looked like a dick. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread.
Was that painful to type and post? "
Pleasurably so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m an English teacher, so there are many, many things that infuriate me when it comes to people’s command of written language. Incorrect homophones are definitely number one on the list, for me."
I deplore homophonia - disgusting. |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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No I don’t. And I don’t think correcting the spelling or grammar of others on a public forum is big or clever really.
However, I prefer for folk to not use text speak as I’m not down with the kids when it comes to the lingo.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m an English teacher, so there are many, many things that infuriate me when it comes to people’s command of written language. Incorrect homophones are definitely number one on the list, for me.
I deplore homophonia - disgusting. "
We need an anti-homophonia support group. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I get people make mistakes, maybe now and then use the wrong word, spelling mistakes... these things happen.
But, one thing I can’t live with is lack of commas.. and excessive text talk. I find it so much effort to piece together what’s being said in one long sentence, so tend to not bother reading it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No I don’t. And I don’t think correcting the spelling or grammar of others on a public forum is big or clever really.
However, I prefer for folk to not use text speak as I’m not down with the kids when it comes to the lingo.
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This  .
Also, agree with the text talk, mainly because I don’t understand it . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I have fairly low standards for other people's messages but when people abandon punctuation totally I find it difficult to ignore.
I believe languages are living and evolving as we do, so while technically OP you are correct in what you say, I do think that language works for us and that as long as you are communicating clearly then the actual way things are said is less important.
I'm Irish and our language places words in different places. For example the black dog is an madra dubh. Word for word translation is the dog black.
I'm saying all that to explain why some people put sentences together in ways that are not "standard" I live in an area that was irish speaking a generation ago and the English spoken here is influenced by an older language. Maybe that's why I am ok with mistakes and bad grammar. |
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I really, honestly try not to let grammatical abuse get to me. I know there are far worse things in the world, but....
Mixing up seen and saw, gone and went, all the "theirs" etc. It's like nails on a blackboard. One I hate most however is "ain't". I know it's just a contraction and used in common parlance but it's widely regarded as nonstandard verging on slang. I manage to cope though. I have way more things to bother me but things grate when they ain't great.  |
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Nope, even though I'm in the grammar & spelling brigade, as well as incredibly pedantic about semantics ... I definitely don't stress about it and have much better things to do than even slightly think about it! A very dyslexic daughter has shown me that it means diddly squat in life and I would never judge (or even think about it) other people on how they write! |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"It’s really tricky.
There are those who are lucky because they got taught, and who aren’t dyslexic/foreign and managing speaking a different language(or a myriad of other reasons), and there are those who weren’t.
How do you know the difference? "
Using incorrect pronouns or lacking in pronouns or incorrect grammar shows that English might not be their 1st language, which is absolutely fine. |
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
You've picked exactly the one that I detest. You might say:
I have done this
That makes sense. "Have" is a verb. These things are directly related:
I should have done this.
I could have done this.
I would have done this.
You would not say:
I of done this
That doesn't make any sense at all. "Of" is not a verb. Therefore "should of", "could of" and "would of" equally make absolutely no sense.
They are a misunderstanding of the abbreviation "would've" etc., which is and abbreviation of "would have" not "would of".
Sorry, am I boring you? |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"I have fairly low standards for other people's messages but when people abandon punctuation totally I find it difficult to ignore.
I believe languages are living and evolving as we do, so while technically OP you are correct in what you say, I do think that language works for us and that as long as you are communicating clearly then the actual way things are said is less important.
I'm Irish and our language places words in different places. For example the black dog is an madra dubh. Word for word translation is the dog black.
I'm saying all that to explain why some people put sentences together in ways that are not "standard" I live in an area that was irish speaking a generation ago and the English spoken here is influenced by an older language. Maybe that's why I am ok with mistakes and bad grammar. "
I liked this. Very well articulated Mr and Mrs Arrow |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?
You've picked exactly the one that I detest. You might say:
I have done this
That makes sense. "Have" is a verb. These things are directly related:
I should have done this.
I could have done this.
I would have done this.
You would not say:
I of done this
That doesn't make any sense at all. "Of" is not a verb. Therefore "should of", "could of" and "would of" equally make absolutely no sense.
They are a misunderstanding of the abbreviation "would've" etc., which is and abbreviation of "would have" not "would of".
Sorry, am I boring you?"
Haha. That got your back up didn't it. |
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"When you are asked a question and you give a detailed answer , then receive a reply with one or two words with no effort. That grinds my gears.
Yup. And they say in their own profile not to write one sentence messages.
That’s the one right there. Head scratcher"
I think it is probably fair to say that they are showing you that you aren't what they are looking for. |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Nope, even though I'm in the grammar & spelling brigade, as well as incredibly pedantic about semantics ... I definitely don't stress about it and have much better things to do than even slightly think about it! A very dyslexic daughter has shown me that it means diddly squat in life and I would never judge (or even think about it) other people on how they write! "
There's no "stress" involved. I speak 4 languages and can claim to be totally fluent in only 1 of them, so I know what it's like to be talking gibberish in a foreign tongue.
I also have a brother with learning difficulties who still cannot string a coherent sentence together in his twenties. So I'm well aware of and sensitive to some people's limitations.
This is just about the spiralling demise of the most basic elements of English in the average populous. (And only a bit of fun) |
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"Nope, even though I'm in the grammar & spelling brigade, as well as incredibly pedantic about semantics ... I definitely don't stress about it and have much better things to do than even slightly think about it! A very dyslexic daughter has shown me that it means diddly squat in life and I would never judge (or even think about it) other people on how they write!
There's no "stress" involved. I speak 4 languages and can claim to be totally fluent in only 1 of them, so I know what it's like to be talking gibberish in a foreign tongue.
I also have a brother with learning difficulties who still cannot string a coherent sentence together in his twenties. So I'm well aware of and sensitive to some people's limitations.
This is just about the spiralling demise of the most basic elements of English in the average populous. (And only a bit of fun)"
Instead of saying that I don't get stressed about it, maybe would have been easier if I worded it that it just doesn't bother my goat? He's pretty chilled too ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I actually stress myself with spelling mistakes at work ..... I’m nit sure if it’s because I type too fast but I always spell enquiries and available wrong ....... I can spell them but always get it wrong and that annoying little red squiggle appears xxx |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Nope, even though I'm in the grammar & spelling brigade, as well as incredibly pedantic about semantics ... I definitely don't stress about it and have much better things to do than even slightly think about it! A very dyslexic daughter has shown me that it means diddly squat in life and I would never judge (or even think about it) other people on how they write!
There's no "stress" involved. I speak 4 languages and can claim to be totally fluent in only 1 of them, so I know what it's like to be talking gibberish in a foreign tongue.
I also have a brother with learning difficulties who still cannot string a coherent sentence together in his twenties. So I'm well aware of and sensitive to some people's limitations.
This is just about the spiralling demise of the most basic elements of English in the average populous. (And only a bit of fun)
Instead of saying that I don't get stressed about it, maybe would have been easier if I worded it that it just doesn't bother my goat? He's pretty chilled too ... "
Well your goat is welcome to chill in my barn and graze on my lawn any time |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
Yes, but I usually let it slide. Nobody seems to check what they write these days ... |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I actually stress myself with spelling mistakes at work ..... I’m nit sure if it’s because I type too fast but I always spell enquiries and available wrong ....... I can spell them but always get it wrong and that annoying little red squiggle appears xxx"
Oh yes. Available always gets typed wrongly. Also "that" becomes "taht" and "and" becomes "amd". I feel another thread in this. Haha |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"I really, honestly try not to let grammatical abuse get to me. I know there are far worse things in the world, but....
Mixing up seen and saw, gone and went, all the "theirs" etc. It's like nails on a blackboard. One I hate most however is "ain't". I know it's just a contraction and used in common parlance but it's widely regarded as nonstandard verging on slang. I manage to cope though. I have way more things to bother me but things grate when they ain't great. "
I never understood "ain't"! What is that - short for "are not", "is not", "am not"? |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"People complaining about others' spelling and grammar should always proof-read their own profiles.
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....oh....? Send me a private message if that's a poke at me. I am 95% certain that my profile is devoid of major grammatical sin but full of devilish innuendo. I would welcome any corrections. |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"You’ll know you’re a close friend of mine when I no longer care to change my typos and you can decipher the code I write in!"
Yup. This
Once you get comfortable with someone it stops being a hang up....except for could/would/should of. Grrrr |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
Yes but they really meant - could’ve which is pronounced could of. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Alot of things, people should of taken the time to proof read and not make no mistakes. Its not that hard to do really but there to busy one hand typing. If only more people had you're knowledge OP, the world would be a better place sadly the affect of social media is widespread. "
Well done |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m guilty of this.
It’s not the be all and end all, but good grammar & spelling is attractive, proves some intelligence and demonstrates that they can apply an attention to detail.
I write a lot at my work and read the written work of my colleagues where, when it’s poor, I do die a little inside.
Does that make me a grammar extremist?
(I’m chilled out normally. Honestly) |
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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago
Near Marlborough |
"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
Apostrophes mainly. In front of practically every s.
V x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
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Yeah, I got a right boner reading dear Deirdre when our milkman wrote in.
I knew it was him by the way he’d written semi skimmed. |
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Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do. |
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English is a peasant language that has survived and grown by absorbing the words and phrasing of the countless invaders and overlords. Grammar is in many ways the etiquette of language, and as with other historical forms of etiquette - table manners, flower arranging etc it was little more than an attempt to label, control and divide the rich, religious or academic from the rest of the population. Today it is the last bastion of the middle and chattering classes
Never figured Fab forums as the Uk's version of Académie Français... |
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By *aver999Couple
over a year ago
East Mids |
I apologize in advance for all the mistakes in this post.
No it doesn't bother me, but then it wouldn't as my grammar is shit and my spelling is crap.
What gets me is the length some people will go on technical forums especially, to point out mistakes in the questions rather than provide any answers, which begs the question why do they bother posting at all?
Maybe they just have too much time on their hands.
If people are that fussy about a misplaced comma or apostrophe, I'd hate to think how they'd react to a misplaced body appendage! (oh that was a big word )
(Mr) |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do."
You are correct. English is not my first language. In fact, it's my 3rd. However, it has become my most fluent language despite the "barriers" to which you alluded. So I do think I have the right to be proud of my mastery to an extent that surpasses the native speakers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do.
You are correct. English is not my first language. In fact, it's my 3rd. However, it has become my most fluent language despite the "barriers" to which you alluded. So I do think I have the right to be proud of my mastery to an extent that surpasses the native speakers."
I think you're amazing. I can't speak any other languages.
Gramma n stuff bother me but I wouldn't correct someone or mention it. Unless it were a little kid and then a would. |
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By *edGrayCouple
over a year ago
Swindon |
Good grammar is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack, off a horse or helping your Uncle, jack off a horse...
Personally, it's when folk use the words know & no, there & their incorrectly I start to get disheartened.  |
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"When say that I am a sexy women. "
I see this so often in profiles, it's astounding.
I'm generally not bothered by grammar etc, except for a government that doesn't invest enough in education. I only feel this surprise for this type of error, that I'd guess the writer would notice. |
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"Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do.
You are correct. English is not my first language. In fact, it's my 3rd. However, it has become my most fluent language despite the "barriers" to which you alluded. So I do think I have the right to be proud of my mastery to an extent that surpasses the native speakers."
Being proud of your own abilities has nothing to do with judging or mocking others. That isn't the same thing. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do.
You are correct. English is not my first language. In fact, it's my 3rd. However, it has become my most fluent language despite the "barriers" to which you alluded. So I do think I have the right to be proud of my mastery to an extent that surpasses the native speakers."
Don't big yourself up by putting others down.
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"Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do.
You are correct. English is not my first language. In fact, it's my 3rd. However, it has become my most fluent language despite the "barriers" to which you alluded. So I do think I have the right to be proud of my mastery to an extent that surpasses the native speakers."
I think it's fine to be proud of your ability. I've known so many non-native speakers whose English is better than that of the majority of native speakers, and it always kills me when the first thing they say is "I'm sorry for my bad English..."
English is a tough language, too. I used to work with a Hungarian woman for whom English was her *fourth* language after Italian and Japanese, and she said that English was the hardest of the four due to being so idiomatic. That's really saying something, especially given how complex Japanese is.
I'm a bit embarrassed that I only speak English, and I really regret how badly taught languages are in our education system. My first girlfriend, way way back in the mists of time, spoke *seven* languages... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?"
Lazy typing + Lazy checking before sending = Lazy person = Lazy meet |
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By *odgerMan
over a year ago
Coventry(ish) |
"Do you get pedantic over the way people write?
Personally, I don't mind smelling pistakes (see what I did there...lol). We're all prone to autocorrect.
But it really winds me up when people write "could of" instead of "could have" for example. That isn't even writing as we speak, the phrase literally has no meaning in the English language.
What gets your goat about the way people write?
Lazy typing + Lazy checking before sending = Lazy person = Lazy meet"
Think you may have hit upon something there...the quality of a meet tends to be directly proportional to the ability to communicate well.
Not all the time but generally (in case anyone's reading) |
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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago
London |
"Nope. English isn't a lot of people's first language. Even if it is I just find grammar police to be excessively snobby. Congratulations, you've mastered the basics of the English language and have no barriers that make it excessively difficult for you so now spend your time on the Internet mocking those who do.
You are correct. English is not my first language. In fact, it's my 3rd. However, it has become my most fluent language despite the "barriers" to which you alluded. So I do think I have the right to be proud of my mastery to an extent that surpasses the native speakers.
Don't big yourself up by putting others down.
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I didn't mock anyone except myself:
I entitled this thread with the word "pickiness" and even called this sort of annoyance "pedantic". How I have put anyone down except my own behaviour.... |
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