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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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Wills yes they do work very quick but it is not a sustainable way to lose weight as only so long one can be on them, the key word here is "sustainability", to find a diet that suits you for the rest of your life, what diet do you follow? I am on the flexible diet. I can enjoy all the foods and of course some treats too  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No they dont.
Their claims are misleading and they're not health.
MRP diets like the cambridge plan and such have you on less than 1000 calories a day immediately. All the weight lost isn't body fat, its 90% water in the first 2-3weeks. You cant lose over a stone of fat in a month. If I go zero carb I can drop 8 lbs in 2 weeks, all water.
People then stop and rebound, ear carbs, weight immediately jumps and a large majority rebound past their original weight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Last year, just cut out all the rubbish and ate healthy. Not essentially dieting, just healthy. I do weights between 4-6 times a week in my bedroom. Use dumbells at 29kg. Went from 16 stone to just over 13 stone. Gone up to 14 stone 5, reduced exercise, now increased exercise, just eating fairly healthy with a view of getting under 14 stone again. Going to join a gym later in the year and properly get toned and work with a dietician. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t like the word ‘diet’, because it implies you’re making a sacrifice and missing out on foods, I also don’t think it promotes a healthy relationship with food. It also focuses on the short term weight loss that is not sustainable, who wants to live like that all the time, only eating certain things, it’s not good for your mental health, it creates slumps, peaks and troughs. Far better for people to work on their behaviour and relationship with food, see food as nourishment or fuel for our bodies, everyone knows what foods have no benefit other than putting on weight.
It starts by changing a sedentary lifestyle to an active one, cause then your body crave’s foods that have natural goodness in them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It starts by changing a sedentary lifestyle to an active one, cause then your body crave’s foods that have natural goodness in them. "
Agree with your comments about diets but not sure about this. I understood our craving for sugar and fat has a deep evolutionary basis, the problem is more that these are now likely to be found in unhealthy, processed forms rather than in natural sources. My work is largely physical and I often crave fatty and high sugar foods when I'm tired, although I largely resist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It starts by changing a sedentary lifestyle to an active one, cause then your body crave’s foods that have natural goodness in them.
Agree with your comments about diets but not sure about this. I understood our craving for sugar and fat has a deep evolutionary basis, the problem is more that these are now likely to be found in unhealthy, processed forms rather than in natural sources. My work is largely physical and I often crave fatty and high sugar foods when I'm tired, although I largely resist."
You’re talking about a quick fix, I’m talking about a lifestyle change, like when I come back from a run I feel the same, but then later I cook a healthy meal, otherwise I feel Depleted. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wills yes they do work very quick but it is not a sustainable way to lose weight as only so long one can be on them, the key word here is "sustainability", to find a diet that suits you for the rest of your life, what diet do you follow? I am on the flexible diet. I can enjoy all the foods and of course some treats too "
I don’t |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It starts by changing a sedentary lifestyle to an active one, cause then your body crave’s foods that have natural goodness in them.
Agree with your comments about diets but not sure about this. I understood our craving for sugar and fat has a deep evolutionary basis, the problem is more that these are now likely to be found in unhealthy, processed forms rather than in natural sources. My work is largely physical and I often crave fatty and high sugar foods when I'm tired, although I largely resist.
You’re talking about a quick fix, I’m talking about a lifestyle change, like when I come back from a run I feel the same, but then later I cook a healthy meal, otherwise I feel Depleted. "
Yes, a healthy meal will contain the nutrition our body needs to feel sated but isn't that the same whether our lifestyle is sedentary or active? An active lifestyle is a obviously positive in itself but in my experience it doesn't lead directly to a better or more natural diet. That is more a question of education and conscious food choices. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Technically they can, as long as you manage coming off them correctly.
In reality, its not worth it. Long term consistency in what you eat and what you do is much easier mentally and physically.
I track calories and protein intake and let the rest take care of itself. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Unfortunately we live in an obesogenic environment, where cheap and unhealthy processed foods are readily available, which facilitates weight gain.
Crash dieting is nonsence and merely disrupts the body's normal metabolic processes; and in the long term results in further weight gain.
The key is to enforce a personal policy of buying simple unprocessed foods which are not loaded with sugars or sugar substitutes, salt or excessive amounts of fats.
Food manufacturers are experts at encouraging us to buy foods that are detrimental to our wellbeing; we are bombarded daily with hundreds of advertisements that encourage consumption.
Furthermore, the deadliest habit of all-smoking-has exceptionally adverse health consequences.
Mercifully, I have never smoked, nor do I drink alcohol.
Many Irish have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol, the consequences of which are often insidious and hidden from public view.
Human beings evolved in an environment where famine was the norm; those who were able to store energy on their bodies when food was available were those who managed to survive.
In an environment where food is perpetually available excessive weight gain is becoming the norm.
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It’s amazing how most of the population has no idea how diets work, how weight loss work or even how to exercise properly.
It’s no surprise that these crash diets are popular.
They can work, it’s just rare that they do. People are often fat because they lack control when it comes to food and aren’t mindful of portion control.
A crash diet will never fix those issues and without them in place you’ll never maintain any weight loss |
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They can but 99% of the time they don't as they're too restrictive so people give in. Also people intend to go back to eating what was "normal" to them afterwards which means they'll never keep it off.
I get annoyed by people though who say that you don't need to diet but change your diet permanently to something you wish to continue forever. That's partly true as your maintenance calories when overweight will be higher than after you've lost weight and also may work if you have a significant amount of weight to lose. However, especially when you are close to your goal weight, the way you eat to lose weight isn't going to be the same as they way you eat to maintain weight, especially while excercising heavily. I do diet, not drastically though. I eat to lose about 1-2lbs a week. I tend to do it for a couple of months at a time and eat to maintain in between. I've lost 17kg in total and never put more than 2kg back on at any point. I've been told I'm doing it wrong so many times  . |
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For me is the mental component that i find the hardest to cope with. People who have successful lap bands often develop other destructive habits as they never worked out why they were using food emotionally. So when they literally couldn't use food without a lot of pain, something else had to fill the void. |
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Very fast weight loss is typically regained and helps to create a negative yo-yo dieting pattern.
You'll probably be more likely to get sustained weight loss in the longer term, by increasing your activity types and levels, alongside dietary changes that have the longer term in mind.
Rapid crash weight loss is fools gold. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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"No they dont.
Their claims are misleading and they're not health.
MRP diets like the cambridge plan and such have you on less than 1000 calories a day immediately. All the weight lost isn't body fat, its 90% water in the first 2-3weeks. You cant lose over a stone of fat in a month. If I go zero carb I can drop 8 lbs in 2 weeks, all water.
People then stop and rebound, ear carbs, weight immediately jumps and a large majority rebound past their original weight."
You are right there too, lots of it is just water weight too as one cuts the carbs from the diet. |
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"Wills yes they do work very quick but it is not a sustainable way to lose weight as only so long one can be on them, the key word here is "sustainability", to find a diet that suits you for the rest of your life, what diet do you follow? I am on the flexible diet. I can enjoy all the foods and of course some treats too "
All those meal replacement ones should be banned.
I’m all for people wanting to look good for a holiday/wedding etc. but they need to be realistic with how much they can lose in that time. 1-2lb tops is what people need to aim for per week if they want to keep it off.
After the initial few weeks where a fair chunk is lost people get disheartened. |
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"Crash diets work if your aim is to lose weight quickly. The dieting industry has no interest in people maintaining a healthy weight long term."
If the diet industry's products and services actually worked, there would be no diet industry.
Most refuse to publish data. The commercial diet with the highest published success rate is Weight Watchers, which has a 5% success rate (or 95% failure). |
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"Wills yes they do work very quick but it is not a sustainable way to lose weight as only so long one can be on them, the key word here is "sustainability", to find a diet that suits you for the rest of your life, what diet do you follow? I am on the flexible diet. I can enjoy all the foods and of course some treats too
All those meal replacement ones should be banned.
I’m all for people wanting to look good for a holiday/wedding etc. but they need to be realistic with how much they can lose in that time. 1-2lb tops is what people need to aim for per week if they want to keep it off.
After the initial few weeks where a fair chunk is lost people get disheartened. "
I agree they shouldn't be commercially available but they can be good for those who need to rapidly lose weight in order to have surgery as waiting to lose the weight in a better way can be too risky. |
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I can’t calories as I find this easy and reliable for me. This is not to say that it will suit everyone though especially those with health issues and medications etc. I tried keto but the amount of butter, cream and cheese turned me right off.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think adopting a permanent healthy lifestyle is the only way, and doing adequate exercise.
Crash diets aren’t really good for you, and invariably the weight goes back on |
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"Crash diets work if your aim is to lose weight quickly. The dieting industry has no interest in people maintaining a healthy weight long term.
If the diet industry's products and services actually worked, there would be no diet industry.
Most refuse to publish data. The commercial diet with the highest published success rate is Weight Watchers, which has a 5% success rate (or 95% failure)."
Yep. When I was working, in certain jobs I needed to maintain 95% service ratio, mostly at least 75%. I'd have been sacked at 5%. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Research seems to show that diets, not just crash ones, where you deprive yourself of calories leads you to weight increase overall once the diet has ended.
Like many have said above, a lifestyle change is the better approach and more sustainable longer term. Getting into a habit of cooking from scratch as much as possible is also helpful and reduces the amount of processed food you eat. At the end of the day, there are numerous reasons why processed food is not good for you.
Speech over. |
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By *rad670Man
over a year ago
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I think they can work for a short time but not really good for your health and you need an excellent positive attitude and strong will. You feel ill and out of sorts so think it's not working and go back to normal. I think someone has mentioned the healthy way is calorie reduction and slowly swapping the junk food bit by bit for healthier options, it is a slower way but doesn't shock your body and is more sustainable without too much effoert. For example it took me 9 months to lose a stone and a half without crash dieting then I started to eat high protein and gain a little weight back but in muscle rather than fat. Hard to find a balance but worth the effort. |
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Diets aren't good for you. Its all about eating a healthy balanced diet.
I can preach this stuff, but practicing it is a little harder. I've eaten far too much chocolate this week, but back in the gym tomorrow |
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"Research seems to show that diets, not just crash ones, where you deprive yourself of calories leads you to weight increase overall once the diet has ended.
Like many have said above, a lifestyle change is the better approach and more sustainable longer term. Getting into a habit of cooking from scratch as much as possible is also helpful and reduces the amount of processed food you eat. At the end of the day, there are numerous reasons why processed food is not good for you.
Speech over."
Everything you eat is your diet.
It’s common sense if you have been eating in a calorie deficit then switch to a calorie surplus, you will gain weight. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"It’s amazing how most of the population has no idea how diets work, how weight loss work or even how to exercise properly.
It’s no surprise that these crash diets are popular.
They can work, it’s just rare that they do. People are often fat because they lack control when it comes to food and aren’t mindful of portion control.
A crash diet will never fix those issues and without them in place you’ll never maintain any weight loss "
Yes it seems strange of how many dont know how dieting works, it is very easy, but now adays many want a quick fix, which doesnt work in the long run, only short term and many will put on the weight again, that is why just eating less and moving more is the best approach to see steady weight loss as one is in a calorie deficit, which is the key, logging calories is also important as well, it is fun to do  |
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Not everyone finds it at all fun. Not everyone finds it easy. Look at the psychological reasons some people have poor relationships with food. And how there are genuinely some people who eat tiny amounts but still become very large.
My metabolism was utterly fucked by childhood crash diets. Only in my mid 40s did it even begin to fix itself. But medically there is no way I can ever be slim. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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"Shag, forgive my lack of humour but is ‘logging calories’ really fun? If so, I’m off to the fridge. "
Yes, it is fun cos of the apps. U use mynetdiary and there it is interactive and you start a day with an empty apple and as you log the calories it goes around the apple in a circle until it reaches your calorie goal there |
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Doesn't sound fun to me, but that's the great thing about humans.... We're all different. World would be intolerably boring if we were all the same.
That's also true of how our bodies use the food and drink we take in. Everyone's body uses it slightly differently, some very differently.
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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It starts by changing a sedentary lifestyle to an active one, cause then your body crave’s foods that have natural goodness in them.
Agree with your comments about diets but not sure about this. I understood our craving for sugar and fat has a deep evolutionary basis, the problem is more that these are now likely to be found in unhealthy, processed forms rather than in natural sources. My work is largely physical and I often crave fatty and high sugar foods when I'm tired, although I largely resist."
Me too, but I resist. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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"Shag, forgive my lack of humour but is ‘logging calories’ really fun? If so, I’m off to the fridge. Yes, it is fun cos of the apps. U use mynetdiary and there it is interactive and you start a day with an empty apple and as you log the calories it goes around the apple in a circle until it reaches your calorie goal there "
I meant "I use" there. |
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