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"Liberal, funny, doesn't take themselves too seriously, philosophical and quirky (usually geeky). " Noted | |||
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"I shall do everything suggested in this thread " You shouldn't have to change yourself at all. Can you imagine the response if the genders in the original post had been reversed? | |||
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"I shall do everything suggested in this thread You shouldn't have to change yourself at all. Can you imagine the response if the genders in the original post had been reversed? " Noted | |||
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"Surely a cock the size of a sky remote comes into play?? " I saw a status a guy posted once...asking for mini models of sky remotes. It cracked me up | |||
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"Whilst I can understand that with changing times the rules of attraction may have changed - I'd be interested to read more (if you have a link?) as, if what you are suggesting is correct, it would mean a large number of men never meeting or finding a relationship with anyone, which obviously hasn't been the case so far. Would also suggest that people don't have different things, from others, that attract them " There's a fair bit of research from dating and hook up sites which shows a small number of men get a very disproportionate amount of looks and meets, but male to female attention is much more broadly spread. This doesn't really translate into the real world as everyone needs somebody as the song goes, thank goodness! | |||
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"Only thing I can say on this you shouldn’t have to change who you are for someone man or women " Absolutely. It's also often pretty transparent to try so doesn’t work anyway. | |||
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"I shall do everything suggested in this thread You shouldn't have to change yourself at all. Can you imagine the response if the genders in the original post had been reversed? " So very true. | |||
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"Only thing I can say on this you shouldn’t have to change who you are for someone man or women " Well said. You need to be able to truly be yourself in full form | |||
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"I'm so confused. Should I be changing who I am or not? " I need to find some quirks. | |||
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"I shall do everything suggested in this thread You shouldn't have to change yourself at all. Can you imagine the response if the genders in the original post had been reversed? " exactly this. Plus everyone is different and has different tastes and likes. | |||
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"I'm so confused. Should I be changing who I am or not? " why would you want to change.? Be you, be true | |||
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"I'm so confused. Should I be changing who I am or not? why would you want to change.? Be you, be true " Because I'm a modern woke man. I have no independent thought. | |||
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"Whilst I can understand that with changing times the rules of attraction may have changed - I'd be interested to read more (if you have a link?) as, if what you are suggesting is correct, it would mean a large number of men never meeting or finding a relationship with anyone, which obviously hasn't been the case so far. Would also suggest that people don't have different things, from others, that attract them There's a fair bit of research from dating and hook up sites which shows a small number of men get a very disproportionate amount of looks and meets, but male to female attention is much more broadly spread. This doesn't really translate into the real world as everyone needs somebody as the song goes, thank goodness!" Ah thanks for the context makes sense from that perspective to an extent and possibly reflects on both sides of the equation - perception and reality are often different though as you say. Similar to the oft repeated suggestion on here that only gym fit, big dicked, adonises get a look in which we know in reality is not true. | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want" Who said men need to change? I don’t want someone to change to suit me, growing and transforming together is different to changing. I didn’t see this as a division, or a gender thing, more a what do women like? | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. " I highly doubt the journalistic validity of this article beyond click bait. In my experience, women are attracted to a huge variety and diversity of people, based not just on their ‘value’ but them as a person. Are we really saying that people only are attracted to the value in others, as opposed to their values? Part of me wonders if this article is intended as a satire of how women were viewed a few decades ago | |||
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"Physically - Tattoos, some facial hair and definitely not a gym body. I like bigger built guys. Think rugby physique Personality - Cheeky, strong willed and inhibition free. Caring when needed (good for when hugs are wanted) and intelligence. Ability to talk about anything and everything. I feel like I'm putting out an advertisement here " I'd like to say that's me to a tee. But when I try to grow a beard the bugger takes off in the first strong breeze and I'm scared of needles so I'm a blank canvas | |||
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"He’s got to be big and strong Enough to turn me on....on...on Plus witty, dry humoured, good appetite for sex, dirty minded, kind eyes, outdoorsy, upbeat personality, enjoy cooking, not a dickhead....the usual." Damn, cooking ain’t my thing, the rest was in the bag, well apart from the not being a dickhead bit! | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want Who said men need to change? I don’t want someone to change to suit me, growing and transforming together is different to changing. I didn’t see this as a division, or a gender thing, more a what do women like? " It clearly says men take note to learn what women want, that means take note and change your behaviours to suit what women want... otherwise why do we need to know | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want Who said men need to change? I don’t want someone to change to suit me, growing and transforming together is different to changing. I didn’t see this as a division, or a gender thing, more a what do women like? It clearly says men take note to learn what women want, that means take note and change your behaviours to suit what women want... otherwise why do we need to know" You may have a point, but equally it could mean, men think women find a,b,c attractive, but actually the truth is they find d,e,f attractive? | |||
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"Also someone who gives you confidence in yourself by supporting you, believing in you, being there for you no matter what and being an anchor in life for you." Also this | |||
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"Whilst I can understand that with changing times the rules of attraction may have changed - I'd be interested to read more (if you have a link?) as, if what you are suggesting is correct, it would mean a large number of men never meeting or finding a relationship with anyone, which obviously hasn't been the case so far. Would also suggest that people don't have different things, from others, that attract them " I’d have to search for the stats again, but I’ve read that typically throughout history about 20% of men were able to pass on their genes whereas around 80% of women passed on theres. It’s been the norm through out history that most men weren’t suitable and marriage and monogamy were things that were invented to try to artificially level the numbers out. It’s interesting stuff | |||
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"I'm so confused. Should I be changing who I am or not? " No, don't changed yourself to fit into somebody else ideals or preferences but do try to evolve in your own peronal growth. | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want Who said men need to change? I don’t want someone to change to suit me, growing and transforming together is different to changing. I didn’t see this as a division, or a gender thing, more a what do women like? It clearly says men take note to learn what women want, that means take note and change your behaviours to suit what women want... otherwise why do we need to know You may have a point, but equally it could mean, men think women find a,b,c attractive, but actually the truth is they find d,e,f attractive? " Yep and that’s also my point, no one size fits all, and this is just a post of individuals saying what they like... and I guarantee most things mentioned are about being a nice human being for the most part, and that doesn’t just apply to men. I read an article a while back about how biologically woman are more attracted to men who have a certain shoulder to waist ratio which is all to do with alpha dominance, protection etc.... but what about dad bods, what about the persons personality, I just think suggesting one size fits all and men should take note and adapt who they are to suit what people say they like is ridiculous and they will never be happy! Could spend your life getting in shape, getting tattoos, growing a beard, being an outgoing confident guy. Then meet someone you really like and find out then like dad bods, hate tattoos and beards and prefer quiet laid back people. I just find the whole concept of adapting who you are to find someone completely absurd. | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want Who said men need to change? I don’t want someone to change to suit me, growing and transforming together is different to changing. I didn’t see this as a division, or a gender thing, more a what do women like? It clearly says men take note to learn what women want, that means take note and change your behaviours to suit what women want... otherwise why do we need to know You may have a point, but equally it could mean, men think women find a,b,c attractive, but actually the truth is they find d,e,f attractive? Yep and that’s also my point, no one size fits all, and this is just a post of individuals saying what they like... and I guarantee most things mentioned are about being a nice human being for the most part, and that doesn’t just apply to men. I read an article a while back about how biologically woman are more attracted to men who have a certain shoulder to waist ratio which is all to do with alpha dominance, protection etc.... but what about dad bods, what about the persons personality, I just think suggesting one size fits all and men should take note and adapt who they are to suit what people say they like is ridiculous and they will never be happy! Could spend your life getting in shape, getting tattoos, growing a beard, being an outgoing confident guy. Then meet someone you really like and find out then like dad bods, hate tattoos and beards and prefer quiet laid back people. I just find the whole concept of adapting who you are to find someone completely absurd. " I agree, no one should change themselves to suit anyone else. I just read it differently to you. | |||
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"I'm so confused. Should I be changing who I am or not? No, don't changed yourself to fit into somebody else ideals or preferences but do try to evolve in your own peronal growth." How do I do that? Tell me! | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. " holds breath | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want Who said men need to change? I don’t want someone to change to suit me, growing and transforming together is different to changing. I didn’t see this as a division, or a gender thing, more a what do women like? It clearly says men take note to learn what women want, that means take note and change your behaviours to suit what women want... otherwise why do we need to know You may have a point, but equally it could mean, men think women find a,b,c attractive, but actually the truth is they find d,e,f attractive? Yep and that’s also my point, no one size fits all, and this is just a post of individuals saying what they like... and I guarantee most things mentioned are about being a nice human being for the most part, and that doesn’t just apply to men. I read an article a while back about how biologically woman are more attracted to men who have a certain shoulder to waist ratio which is all to do with alpha dominance, protection etc.... but what about dad bods, what about the persons personality, I just think suggesting one size fits all and men should take note and adapt who they are to suit what people say they like is ridiculous and they will never be happy! Could spend your life getting in shape, getting tattoos, growing a beard, being an outgoing confident guy. Then meet someone you really like and find out then like dad bods, hate tattoos and beards and prefer quiet laid back people. I just find the whole concept of adapting who you are to find someone completely absurd. I agree, no one should change themselves to suit anyone else. I just read it differently to you." Fair, perhaps ive came here with the wrong mentality haha | |||
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"Sophisticated well spoken . Dressed smart smells good , uses aftershave every day. Opens doors for you , moves chairs for you, buys you flowers and tells you how good you look , !!! Do they still exist or am I being un realistic ??" Problem is...they may do all this initially but the real guy seems to somehow smash through the fantasy veneer they hide behind. Don't despair, the clues are always there just don't get swept along in the torrent of bullshit. | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. holds breath" I would think a lot appreciate tall men | |||
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"Also someone who gives you confidence in yourself by supporting you, believing in you, being there for you no matter what and being an anchor in life for you." I'm loving all of your forum posts today | |||
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"He’s got to be big and strong Enough to turn me on....on...on Plus witty, dry humoured, good appetite for sex, dirty minded, kind eyes, outdoorsy, upbeat personality, enjoy cooking, not a dickhead....the usual. Damn, cooking ain’t my thing, the rest was in the bag, well apart from the not being a dickhead bit! " Now you’re just letting me down gently, because every other thread you mention you’re cooking something! | |||
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"Also someone who gives you confidence in yourself by supporting you, believing in you, being there for you no matter what and being an anchor in life for you. I'm loving all of your forum posts today " Thank you. I'm just speaking the truth | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. holds breath I would think a lot appreciate tall men " I'm tall but I've only ever had one petite girl come up to me in a pub saying she wanted to climb me | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. " I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea " Imagine if I put this I read recently that men are only attracted to a small type of women. These women must offer value as men no longer need to rely on women for housework and making sandwiches. Men, what would describe as the type of women you're attracted to? Woen, please pay attention as you might learn about what men really want. | |||
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"No one has said over 6ft yet " It’s a myth bussy | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men." I'm a small type of man | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea Imagine if I put this I read recently that men are only attracted to a small type of women. These women must offer value as men no longer need to rely on women for housework and making sandwiches. Men, what would describe as the type of women you're attracted to? Woen, please pay attention as you might learn about what men really want. " | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea Imagine if I put this I read recently that men are only attracted to a small type of women. These women must offer value as men no longer need to rely on women for housework and making sandwiches. Men, what would describe as the type of women you're attracted to? Woen, please pay attention as you might learn about what men really want. " Exactly!! Grips my s***! | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea Imagine if I put this I read recently that men are only attracted to a small type of women. These women must offer value as men no longer need to rely on women for housework and making sandwiches. Men, what would describe as the type of women you're attracted to? Woen, please pay attention as you might learn about what men really want. " Well said brother errrrr I'm going now | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... " What do you say to the women that disagree with you? | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... " I disagree with that. I don't think anyone should have to change to suit someone else. Change happens organically or else it doesn't doesn't last, and people always change as their circumstances change, even if they say they won't. | |||
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"I shall do everything suggested in this thread " that might be very time consuming, i imagine we all want completely different things | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... " I believe in the UK there are slightly more women than men, probably due to greater longevity. Presumably the number of single men and women is therefore roughly the same, the imbalance on Fab is not reflected in reality. I'm not convinced calling people selfish and thick is the way to constructive dialogue but I'm open to changing my mind. | |||
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"Whilst I can understand that with changing times the rules of attraction may have changed - I'd be interested to read more (if you have a link?) as, if what you are suggesting is correct, it would mean a large number of men never meeting or finding a relationship with anyone, which obviously hasn't been the case so far. Would also suggest that people don't have different things, from others, that attract them There's a fair bit of research from dating and hook up sites which shows a small number of men get a very disproportionate amount of looks and meets, but male to female attention is much more broadly spread. This doesn't really translate into the real world as everyone needs somebody as the song goes, thank goodness!" yeah right swipes snd matches doesn’t mean anything other than superficially people think they look good how that translates to successful relationships is much harder to track - people are attracted to much more than a good looking picture | |||
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"Can only assume this post has been posted to trigger the battle of genders again which is a common theme to get high responses. It’s such a ridiculous concept. We as humans are so diverse and have such different experiences that to suggest what a person brings to a relationship across the board is all going to be the same. So many examples of how wrong you are really, and then suggesting guys need to change to accommodate is beyond ridiculous. Not only is that fake unsustainable but promoting misery to the person feeling they need to change. Imagine a painfully introverted type who is being told you need to be extrovert full of energy and confident... but then there are people who love introverted types. This whole concept is embarrassing and putting all people into a category. And if Fab has told me anything, it’s there are many versions of what people want" this idea of creating insecurity is exactly why the type of articles the OP is referring to was written the media drip feed sell you the insecurity so in future they can sell you the solution, all the while already drip feeding the next insecurity and the cycle continues easier said than done but until we can all seek our validation internally rather than from others / society, the wheel will just keep turning | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. " i am pretty sure my friend picked her husband solely on this requirement so you have a market out there for sure | |||
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"Offer value?!? Women do not and should not hold all the cards. Relationships are a 2 way thing and both individuals should bring something to the table. I absolutely hate this notion that men should conform to some kind of list and be grateful for any attention they receive. What happened to equality?!?! " Life happened, social media happened, influencers happened, online dating happened. The way we asses people now is very different to what it was 30 years ago. | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... " This is a fine haul. Congratulations OP | |||
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"Tall, well groomed, confident. Great sense of humour, the ability to not take life too seriously all the time. " Tall -check Well groomed - check Confident -check Great sense of humour - check The ability to not take life too seriously all the time - check | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea Imagine if I put this I read recently that men are only attracted to a small type of women. These women must offer value as men no longer need to rely on women for housework and making sandwiches. Men, what would describe as the type of women you're attracted to? Woen, please pay attention as you might learn about what men really want. " honestly i took the OP itself as tongue in cheek and then expected the thread to show what women want is all different- the article that inspired the thread however is what i consider to be crap designed to make people feel crap | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. " I said it! And I stand by it. | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. I find this incredibly sexist towards men, can you imagine the UPROAR if the genders were reversed? To suggest people change regardless of gender is terrible. Be you. If people don't like it then so be it, you can't be everybody's cup of tea Imagine if I put this I read recently that men are only attracted to a small type of women. These women must offer value as men no longer need to rely on women for housework and making sandwiches. Men, what would describe as the type of women you're attracted to? Woen, please pay attention as you might learn about what men really want. honestly i took the OP itself as tongue in cheek and then expected the thread to show what women want is all different- the article that inspired the thread however is what i consider to be crap designed to make people feel crap " Yup. Fuck that noise wherever it comes from. | |||
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"Tall, well groomed, confident. Great sense of humour, the ability to not take life too seriously all the time. Tall -check Well groomed - check Confident -check Great sense of humour - check The ability to not take life too seriously all the time - check " But I thought you didn’t like this thread? | |||
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"A strong minded, independent, quietly confident man, but not arrogant. Hard working and have lots of energy. A nice smile goes a long way nnd most of all, above all else, have a positive attitude to life with a fantastic sense of humour. I'm so lucky that my husband has all of those qualities. Mrs" | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... I disagree with that. I don't think anyone should have to change to suit someone else. Change happens organically or else it doesn't doesn't last, and people always change as their circumstances change, even if they say they won't." i don’t think you should change your appearance or personality in terms of your likes and dislikes / hobbies etc for anyone else - those things make you “you” but i don’t think its unacceptable to change things like thoughtfulness, selfishnesses, ability to communicate well, healing from your past trauma and the way that makes you approach personal relationships plutonic/ familial or romantic etc - these should be considered self improvement wether they get you a relationship or not you are then bringing a better version of “you” to the table | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... " I can’t even with these utter drips Thanks for your concern, I guess I am a selfish thick man because I’m interested in a woman’s values not just her value. Because I hold my own self worth and time as equal to anyone else’s, and don’t deem her as greater than me but an equal. That honesty trumps manipulation. Because to be truly happy a person has to live their truth, and then someone with similar truths will match with them. All people should aim to be the best they can be, should be good humans, but you are suggesting men need to manipulate their personalities to try con a woman to like them. Because woman only care about what value a man brings... so basically all women are gold diggers in your eyes. Get back in your box | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. I said it! And I stand by it. " At last there’s hope for me | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... I can’t even with these utter drips Thanks for your concern, I guess I am a selfish thick man because I’m interested in a woman’s values not just her value. Because I hold my own self worth and time as equal to anyone else’s, and don’t deem her as greater than me but an equal. That honesty trumps manipulation. Because to be truly happy a person has to live their truth, and then someone with similar truths will match with them. All people should aim to be the best they can be, should be good humans, but you are suggesting men need to manipulate their personalities to try con a woman to like them. Because woman only care about what value a man brings... so basically all women are gold diggers in your eyes. Get back in your box " Ouch. I don’t think the post was that bad that it warrants this response. | |||
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"I like that this conversation exposes the fear that men have about being a more thoughtful person. "I'm not changing for no one" This attitude will not get you far in life or love. Women are always adapting to please their men, but the thick men just want it their way. There are lots of single men and not many single ladies around. Look at this site as an example. Men. Stay as you are. Selfish and thick. Women will find the good men. The caring loving and thoughtful ones. I do feel sorry for the ladies that have to put up with these guys... I can’t even with these utter drips Thanks for your concern, I guess I am a selfish thick man because I’m interested in a woman’s values not just her value. Because I hold my own self worth and time as equal to anyone else’s, and don’t deem her as greater than me but an equal. That honesty trumps manipulation. Because to be truly happy a person has to live their truth, and then someone with similar truths will match with them. All people should aim to be the best they can be, should be good humans, but you are suggesting men need to manipulate their personalities to try con a woman to like them. Because woman only care about what value a man brings... so basically all women are gold diggers in your eyes. Get back in your box Ouch. I don’t think the post was that bad that it warrants this response. " Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. | |||
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"I think men are winning hands down and women don’t like it. They don’t commit to women anymore and use the hook up culture to get what they want. To a lot of men, this beats getting married. It takes 2 to tango. Hookup culture doesn’t exist unless both are taking part " | |||
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" Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. " Why does it always come back to “If the roles were reversed” If this had been a male saying it, I wouldn’t have no issue with it either personally, I don’t know about others. I can’t see anyone “attacking men” as you put it, I do see people posting their opinions, ones some may not agree with, but I don’t see any attacking. Telling someone to “Get back in their box” for what is likely a harmless post is really over the top and is more like “attacking” than anything they’ve said. | |||
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"A strong minded, independent, quietly confident man, but not arrogant. Hard working and have lots of energy. A nice smile goes a long way nnd most of all, above all else, have a positive attitude to life with a fantastic sense of humour. Mrs" plus must be sexy, fun and talented. | |||
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"I think men are winning hands down and women don’t like it. They don’t commit to women anymore and use the hook up culture to get what they want. To a lot of men, this beats getting married. It takes 2 to tango. Hookup culture doesn’t exist unless both are taking part " Yes, agreed, but how many use the hookup culture and then end up hurt because when they find “the one” he isn’t interested in commitment. | |||
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"I think men are winning hands down and women don’t like it. They don’t commit to women anymore and use the hook up culture to get what they want. To a lot of men, this beats getting married. " I disagree. I think both men and women freely partake in hookup culture and casual sex equally. Women are more sexually liberated & open than ever these days, marriage isn’t the “end goal” for as many women today as it was 30 years ago. | |||
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" Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. Why does it always come back to “If the roles were reversed” If this had been a male saying it, I wouldn’t have no issue with it either personally, I don’t know about others. I can’t see anyone “attacking men” as you put it, I do see people posting their opinions, ones some may not agree with, but I don’t see any attacking. Telling someone to “Get back in their box” for what is likely a harmless post is really over the top and is more like “attacking” than anything they’ve said. " Entitle to your opinion but I stand by mine, if I’m being called thick and selfish because I don’t agree with jotting down all the qualities woman deem as valuable and working towards them to find a mate | |||
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" Entitle to your opinion but I stand by mine, if I’m being called thick and selfish because I don’t agree with jotting down all the qualities woman deem as valuable and working towards them to find a mate " But they didn’t directly call you thick did they? You took that personally so your feelings are on you really. | |||
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" Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. Why does it always come back to “If the roles were reversed” If this had been a male saying it, I wouldn’t have no issue with it either personally, I don’t know about others. I can’t see anyone “attacking men” as you put it, I do see people posting their opinions, ones some may not agree with, but I don’t see any attacking. Telling someone to “Get back in their box” for what is likely a harmless post is really over the top and is more like “attacking” than anything they’ve said. " I don’t think it’s attacking men it’s just an unfair set of values we are expected to abide by and whether you can see it or not shouldn’t invalidate our feelings or perception of it | |||
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" Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. Why does it always come back to “If the roles were reversed” If this had been a male saying it, I wouldn’t have no issue with it either personally, I don’t know about others. I can’t see anyone “attacking men” as you put it, I do see people posting their opinions, ones some may not agree with, but I don’t see any attacking. Telling someone to “Get back in their box” for what is likely a harmless post is really over the top and is more like “attacking” than anything they’ve said. I don’t think it’s attacking men it’s just an unfair set of values we are expected to abide by and whether you can see it or not shouldn’t invalidate our feelings or perception of it " Who is expecting you to abide by it other than the person in the forum who wrote the post? Nobody is invalidating your feelings, you’re free to feel as you please. But if you’re taking someone’s general post as personal attack on yourself as an individual you probably need to ask yourself why you’re doing that. If someone made a generalisation about women and I know I’m not like that, I wouldn’t feel the need to fly off the handle or even justify myself. I find that strange. Quite a few men have responded and have not needed to justify what type of man they are, likely because they’re secure in who they are and don’t believe they are the above. | |||
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" Entitle to your opinion but I stand by mine, if I’m being called thick and selfish because I don’t agree with jotting down all the qualities woman deem as valuable and working towards them to find a mate But they didn’t directly call you thick did they? You took that personally so your feelings are on you really. " Well aware my feelings are mine, and I am responsible for my feelings, and I am also responsible for how I act on them... I still 100% believe what I’ve said. Based on how I have read and interpreted how they articulated their opinions. | |||
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" Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. Why does it always come back to “If the roles were reversed” If this had been a male saying it, I wouldn’t have no issue with it either personally, I don’t know about others. I can’t see anyone “attacking men” as you put it, I do see people posting their opinions, ones some may not agree with, but I don’t see any attacking. Telling someone to “Get back in their box” for what is likely a harmless post is really over the top and is more like “attacking” than anything they’ve said. Entitle to your opinion but I stand by mine, if I’m being called thick and selfish because I don’t agree with jotting down all the qualities woman deem as valuable and working towards them to find a mate " Endlessly single material | |||
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"I think men are winning hands down and women don’t like it. They don’t commit to women anymore and use the hook up culture to get what they want. To a lot of men, this beats getting married. I disagree. I think both men and women freely partake in hookup culture and casual sex equally. Women are more sexually liberated & open than ever these days, marriage isn’t the “end goal” for as many women today as it was 30 years ago. " agreed its not a case of men winning vs women thing , its a freedom of choice is now catching up with society telling you that you must settle down and fit in a box thing | |||
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" Well i do, if this was reversed and we were saying the exact same things towards women it would be disgusting, so I see no difference. To attack men for holding their values and morales as high enough to not change who they are to please and manipulate women to be seen as more valuable. We are not just talking about men being good and nice people but changing who we are based on what women say they value. Suggesting we need change who we are. Imagine saying that to a woman. Why does it always come back to “If the roles were reversed” If this had been a male saying it, I wouldn’t have no issue with it either personally, I don’t know about others. I can’t see anyone “attacking men” as you put it, I do see people posting their opinions, ones some may not agree with, but I don’t see any attacking. Telling someone to “Get back in their box” for what is likely a harmless post is really over the top and is more like “attacking” than anything they’ve said. Entitle to your opinion but I stand by mine, if I’m being called thick and selfish because I don’t agree with jotting down all the qualities woman deem as valuable and working towards them to find a mate Endlessly single material " does this assume endlessly single can’t be someones goal? i would rather be endlessly single than have to contort myself into a version that someone else desires i think i have seen plenty posts on the forums that would suggest i an not alone in this thinking, even from folk who have previously been married so at some point must have thought differently | |||
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"Tall, well groomed, confident. Great sense of humour, the ability to not take life too seriously all the time. Tall -check Well groomed - check Confident -check Great sense of humour - check The ability to not take life too seriously all the time - check But I thought you didn’t like this thread? " I was taking the piss Plus I'm already all of those things so dont need to change | |||
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"Quietly confident. About...? " I mean the vibe you are giving out when around other people. That reassuring calmness where you make people listen to you despite of not being loud or using flashy words. Making your point known with a great eloquence, but also humbleness. Its hard to pinpoint really I know when I see. | |||
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"Quietly confident. About...? I mean the vibe you are giving out when around other people. That reassuring calmness where you make people listen to you despite of not being loud or using flashy words. Making your point known with a great eloquence, but also humbleness. Its hard to pinpoint really I know when I see. " Very well put across | |||
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"A strong minded, independent, quietly confident man, but not arrogant. Hard working and have lots of energy. A nice smile goes a long way nnd most of all, above all else, have a positive attitude to life with a fantastic sense of humour. Mrs plus must be sexy, fun and talented." Add to the above..honest... | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. " Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. | |||
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"Quietly confident. About...? " Bitcoin | |||
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".. Invested in my development " I like that, no one should change for anyone but themselves, but confident people always look for a mentor to support and encourage them to develop further. | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. " Why £12.99 exactly something special in mind? | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. " Damn!!!! I only have £12.95 | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. " 10p short | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. 10p short " 10p??? Im £12.98 short and have low standards. Im knackered. But my heart huge. | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. Why £12.99 exactly something special in mind?" Pays for the Netflix | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. " Bank balance £13 Outstanding bills £5388 | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. 10p short 10p??? Im £12.98 short and have low standards. Im knackered. But my heart huge. " And so is your cock! But yes as TJCombo said it pays for Netflix and if you can provide me with the ultimate luxury Netflix experience I know that I will be taken care of. | |||
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"Tall, well groomed, confident. Great sense of humour, the ability to not take life too seriously all the time. Tall -check Well groomed - check Confident -check Great sense of humour - check The ability to not take life too seriously all the time - check But I thought you didn’t like this thread? I was taking the piss Plus I'm already all of those things so dont need to change " I’ll find something to make you change! | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. Why £12.99 exactly something special in mind?" Well its not a Netflix premium subscription or a Dominos any pizza, any size offer as they are both £13.99. | |||
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"Funny, not a racist, not a misogynist, outwardly focused as in not selfish. " It’s a shame that “not a racist, not a misogynist” even needs to be mentioned - that should be a given but unfortunately there are those kinds of morons everywhere. Personally I wouldn’t change for the sole reason of meeting one woman’s demands. I always try to be a better person, limit the traits in myself I don’t like so much and amplify the ones I do like. If that works for someone, great! If not, I’m sure they’ll find someone right for them | |||
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"To go against what are mostly typical posts you would expect to see on a thread such as this ... All the good and desirable qualities mentioned hardly ever come into play if someone is thinking of coupling up as an item if one of the people is financially secure and the other does not have a pot to piss in. " i am one of those people but its because past experience has taught me it can make a relationship very difficult if i was with someone and circumstances changed for them and they became financially insecure i would already be invested in them and wouldn’t break up with them over it but when starting something new, yes i like folk to have a pot to piss in - they only need to have their own pot though, they don’t need a second one for me as i will bring my own | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. " Fuck I just came | |||
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"Non-physical traits: Confident, makes an effort, consistent, pays attention to detail, takes initiative, decisive, empathetic and a good sense of humor. " Hey, I’d like to message you please Sharisa xxx | |||
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"Non-physical traits: Confident, makes an effort, consistent, pays attention to detail, takes initiative, decisive, empathetic and a good sense of humor. Hey, I’d like to message you please Sharisa xxx" you should be after the poster who said some women like a,b,c... others like d,e,f they know exactly who is into you | |||
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"I find very tall and skinny dudes incredibly sexy ????" I'll get me coat. | |||
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"I find very tall and skinny dudes incredibly sexy ???? I'll get me coat. " Don’t leave yet mate | |||
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"Somebody say "Really tall" please. I said it! And I stand by it. " Hurrah! Thank you. | |||
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"I find very tall and skinny dudes incredibly sexy ????" Double hurrah! Thank you, too. | |||
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"Women: I just want a man to make me laugh! Me, a funny man: Hi! Women: hahaha, no not you!" Very true. I've always been able to make women laugh but that's never translated into success in attracting thrm. | |||
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"Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs." I've seen it suggested recently that expecting someone to attend therapy is inherently classist. That might have come from an American, though, and I'm not sure what NHS provision for therapy is like. Probably grotesquely underfunded. Otherwise, five out seven isn't bad, is it? | |||
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"Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. I've seen it suggested recently that expecting someone to attend therapy is inherently classist. That might have come from an American, though, and I'm not sure what NHS provision for therapy is like. Probably grotesquely underfunded. Otherwise, five out seven isn't bad, is it? " That’s an interesting point, if someone’s financial situation prevents them from access to therapy (and NHS services are a postcode lottery) I wouldn’t hold that against them. If someone does have the disposable income however, I see it in a similar vein to a gym membership. It’s an investment in yourself and your well being. | |||
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"Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. I've seen it suggested recently that expecting someone to attend therapy is inherently classist. That might have come from an American, though, and I'm not sure what NHS provision for therapy is like. Probably grotesquely underfunded. Otherwise, five out seven isn't bad, is it? That’s an interesting point, if someone’s financial situation prevents them from access to therapy (and NHS services are a postcode lottery) I wouldn’t hold that against them. If someone does have the disposable income however, I see it in a similar vein to a gym membership. It’s an investment in yourself and your well being. " Well I'm half way there. I've had therapy but never had a gym membership. | |||
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"I read recently that women are only attracted to a small type of men. These men must offer value as women no longer need to rely on men for money and security. Ladies, what would describe as the type of men you're attracted to? Men, please pay attention as you might learn about what ladies really want. Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. Fuck I just came " | |||
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"Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. I've seen it suggested recently that expecting someone to attend therapy is inherently classist. That might have come from an American, though, and I'm not sure what NHS provision for therapy is like. Probably grotesquely underfunded. Otherwise, five out seven isn't bad, is it? That’s an interesting point, if someone’s financial situation prevents them from access to therapy (and NHS services are a postcode lottery) I wouldn’t hold that against them. If someone does have the disposable income however, I see it in a similar vein to a gym membership. It’s an investment in yourself and your well being. Well I'm half way there. I've had therapy but never had a gym membership. " Haha, I haven’t had one for a long time. Rescued a dog instead. | |||
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"I see it in a similar vein to a gym membership. It’s an investment in yourself and your well being. " That's an interesting comparison – especially given that both can do more harm than good, and can directly compromise a person's well-being. | |||
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"Self aware, knowledge of trauma and triggers, goes to therapy, actively anti-opression, good communication skills, will do some a fair share of emotional labour. And...must love dogs. I've seen it suggested recently that expecting someone to attend therapy is inherently classist. That might have come from an American, though, and I'm not sure what NHS provision for therapy is like. Probably grotesquely underfunded. Otherwise, five out seven isn't bad, is it? " It's definitely true. I think we can probably sub out therapy for introspection/working on your shit. | |||
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"In response to the discussion of whether or not one should change for other people: Here's a bit of advice given by a guy I knew at uni. He's handsome, charming, successful at everything he puts his mind to, better than me in every way, and has had a *mindboggling* number of sexual partners. "Be yourself, but be the *version* of yourself that they can handle."" But will he ever be able to find the one to love him and him her/him if he wanted to. Does lots of encounters make him feel better than just one person to share his marvellousness with | |||
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"Funny, not a racist, not a misogynist, outwardly focused as in not selfish. " That's me out then | |||
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"Funny, not a racist, not a misogynist, outwardly focused as in not selfish. That's me out then " LOL! | |||
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"Funny, not a racist, not a misogynist, outwardly focused as in not selfish. That's me out then " hopefully only because of a failed stand up career | |||
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"In response to the discussion of whether or not one should change for other people: Here's a bit of advice given by a guy I knew at uni. He's handsome, charming, successful at everything he puts his mind to, better than me in every way, and has had a *mindboggling* number of sexual partners. "Be yourself, but be the *version* of yourself that they can handle." But will he ever be able to find the one to love him and him her/him if he wanted to. Does lots of encounters make him feel better than just one person to share his marvellousness with " Yes. She's one of the most attractive women I've ever met, and generally wonderful in every way. | |||
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"In response to the discussion of whether or not one should change for other people: Here's a bit of advice given by a guy I knew at uni. He's handsome, charming, successful at everything he puts his mind to, better than me in every way, and has had a *mindboggling* number of sexual partners. "Be yourself, but be the *version* of yourself that they can handle."" I like this. I'd perhaps add "consider if you can be that version of yourself with them". That speaks to if they work for you as well | |||
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"A strong minded, independent, quietly confident man, but not arrogant. Hard working and have lots of energy. A nice smile goes a long way nnd most of all, above all else, have a positive attitude to life with a fantastic sense of humour. Mrs plus must be sexy, fun and talented. Add to the above..honest..." Oh yes very important if for ongoing fun. Severely lacking in some Fab men I have chatted to and a few I have met | |||
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"To go against what are mostly typical posts you would expect to see on a thread such as this ... All the good and desirable qualities mentioned hardly ever come into play if someone is thinking of coupling up as an item if one of the people is financially secure and the other does not have a pot to piss in. " I have no interest in how a man is financially and I think you will find most independent women who do not want to co-habit would feel the same. Single Fab women are not all gold diggers. | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. 10p short 10p??? Im £12.98 short and have low standards. Im knackered. But my heart huge. " Not surprised - strawberries and cream are expensive this time of year. | |||
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"I'm not an independent woman so I am happy with any man that has at least £12.99 in his bank account. I have high standards. Why £12.99 exactly something special in mind? Pays for the Netflix " Mine is only £5.99 | |||
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