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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds

I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You're probably best asking him to understand his mind set

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By *all me FlikWoman  over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

Just a married guy looking to get his leg over and trying to justify it...thats all.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"You're probably best asking him to understand his mind set"

I have done and no response.

Wondered what the Fab community thought.

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By *inkyRebelMan  over a year ago

Swindon

Ask to speak to his wife,

If he won't let you he's up to no good.

Im married and I am completely open and honest with my wife about all things. She's met women on meets, before I've gone off to play.

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By *a LunaWoman  over a year ago

South Wales

So you know he’s married.

So you can choose whether to take it any further.

So you can’t turn around and say “if I knew you were married I would never have got involved”.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!!

But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men.

T

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

Of course it doesn't make it OK but at least he's telling you from the get go so that you can make an informed choice wether or not to meet him.

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By *orkiebar51Man  over a year ago

Keighley

He's being honest with himself and with you. But unlikely to be honest with his wife. You or anyone else knows what you're getting into, or not as the case may be

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool

I don't think it makes it ok but I think it's better than leading you to believe he's single. At least this way you're fully aware of the situation and have the opportunity not to get involved as a result.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

Of course it doesn't make it OK but at least he's telling you from the get go so that you can make an informed choice wether or not to meet him. "

Yes very true. I don’t meet married men though.

Just wondered the mind set that’s all. I mean a ‘dating site’. Dating! Or am I over thinking things here?

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds

Got my answer, when I told him to sort his marriage out he has blocked me.

Just another married cheat but on a dating site.

I continue my quest to find someone decent

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

He is letting you know from the start that he is married. Why is he is on there is his own business but at least you know his status and now can make up your own mind if you want to continue to chat or whatever else. People have their own reasons for being on there or here and at least you can make the decision to continue to talk or not knowing from the start that he is married .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple  over a year ago

Back of the bins.


"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!!

But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men.

T"

True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300!

Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

Of course it doesn't make it OK but at least he's telling you from the get go so that you can make an informed choice wether or not to meet him.

Yes very true. I don’t meet married men though.

Just wondered the mind set that’s all. I mean a ‘dating site’. Dating! Or am I over thinking things here?

"

You're over thinking.

Dating sites, especially free ones, are glorified contact sites for some people. If someone wants to cheat then they'll use whatever means necessary.

Whilst you're not happy with his approach and he's perhaps not being honest with his wife he is at least bring honest with the people he messages. Better that than invest time in someone only to find out they're married further down the road.

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By *armupartistMan  over a year ago

York

Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!"

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive? "

Exactly my thoughts too!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

Saying dote = dating site obviously

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham

He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!"

She said dating sites not fab. She also didn't call YOU a cheater. She posted about married men using dating sites to cheat. I think you might need to reread the OP .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I guess OP it is better for you that he was honest, but it is really shitty for his Mrs if this isn't an agreed arrangement.

I've lost count of how many guys I've met on dating sites only for them to pop up as friend suggestions on social media with their profile pic of them and their wife and kids. I really hate liars.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?"

Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for.

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By *reatformeatWoman  over a year ago

my own bubble

Been asked a thousand times , this site and no doubt others are flooded with married men. If their so unhappy makes you wonder why they are Married but in reality they like to have their cake and eat it . I can understand it if there in a sexless or boring relationship but I don’t condone it

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By *rad670Man  over a year ago

South Lakes


"He is letting you know from the start that he is married. Why is he is on there is his own business but at least you know his status and now can make up your own mind if you want to continue to chat or whatever else. People have their own reasons for being on there or here and at least you can make the decision to continue to talk or not knowing from the start that he is married ."

At last, some non judgemental common sense, thank you.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!"

If you don’t like the thread content then pass it by. This wasn’t a thread about married guys on Fab and you’re defensive because you know you are doing wrong but that’s your decision if you are happy to cheat but remember cheaters get found out by their wives eventually.

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for. "

That is harsh, whatever happened to freedom of speech. Anyone can post any comments they like in any thread as long as it is within forum rules. No one can dictate who can or can't comment.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading

Its none of anyones business what he does(except obviously his wife!). He was upfront with you to give you the choice. You are not interested so you move on without giving it a second thought.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


" would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

"

Interesting question

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for.

That is harsh, whatever happened to freedom of speech. Anyone can post any comments they like in any thread as long as it is within forum rules. No one can dictate who can or can't comment. "

Yes I get that and maybe I was harsh, I am sorry. However this poster was trying to move the thread back at me and if I would tell a guy from a vanilla dating site I’m here which is nothing to do with my thread.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting

It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites

Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too

Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around

The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus

That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around

They don't

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


" would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

Interesting question"

On a first date I wouldn't say anything. 3rd or 4th of I felt it had potential to go somewhere I have told people. Most were OK with it (and rather excited lol). Took one along to a BBW night.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting

It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites

Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too

Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around

The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus

That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around

They don't "

I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single.

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By *ermite12ukMan  over a year ago

Solihull and Brentwood


"I can understand it if there in a sexless or boring relationship but I don’t condone it "

Hit the nail on the head, I would think. Certainly with respect to myself at least.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


" would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

Interesting question"

I’m not a cheat, never have been so I would leave Fab if I met Mr Right. However I don’t meet people from Fab......I meet people in clubs and that would also stop if I met Mr Right.

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By *layfullsamMan  over a year ago

Solihull


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

I doubt very much that he's just after "friendship"

It's good that he's told you he's married so you can make your choices based on that.

But claiming to be "honest" by telling you is dubious at best, liars are often Walter Mitty characters who would lie about anything but actually believe themselves !

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By *melia DominaTV/TS  over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

Unfortunately people in relationships do not communicate enough with each other.

Particularly with regards to ones feelings.

Alot feel can't be honest with their partners.

These individuals, men and women alike, reach out to others out side of their primary relationship for companionship and sexual adventure.

Consent, respect and open honest communication is the corner stones of any relationship.

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By *armupartistMan  over a year ago

York


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive? "

I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions.

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By *pYaMan  over a year ago

Ready…

There are many reasons why married men look for sex with others, it is also worth keeping this in perspective that married women also go behind their partners back.

Being married or with a long term partner doesn’t mean everything is good at home and it doesn’t necessarily mean that either party cares about each other any more, sometimes it’s convenient to stay together!

It’s not fair to just slate any married individual (male or female) for seeking sex elsewhere.

The main point here is he was honest with you and you can make a decision if it’s for you or note.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

For me he’s being honest regarding his ‘want’ and how he’s using the site, it’s a platform for people to meet, similar to fab for those not ever meeting on here.

Sounds like he’s dishonest with those that are important, and lacks emotional confidence, if he’s not open with his wife. So it’s selective honesty I guess, about his circumstances or past etc. Perhaps he’s telling you in case you can either relate to that, as some may be able to, or you may wish to tell him where to go, which is where others can relate to as well.

For me I’d have just blocked and moved on if it wasn’t ethical, just sounds like drama

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive?

I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions. "

But the original post wasn't about men on fab who have permission to seek sex outside of their relationship. It was about men on dating sites seeking friendship behind their partners back.

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive?

I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions. "

As its a site for swingers, this site is full of married and partnered people in happy open/swinging relationships . Myself included. I just made a considered assumption that wasn't what the OP was talking about. Especially as she wasn't talking about fab.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting

It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites

Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too

Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around

The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus

That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around

They don't

I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single. "

Being lied to isn't nice

My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made

Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months

Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites

I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness

On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want

Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them'

These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach

The stories vary wildly

I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here?

Not all men cheat

Not all women cheat

I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though

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By *tuartieMan  over a year ago

Lanarkshire


"Ask to speak to his wife,

If he won't let you he's up to no good.

Im married and I am completely open and honest with my wife about all things. She's met women on meets, before I've gone off to play. "

LOL lol

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?

Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for.

That is harsh, whatever happened to freedom of speech. Anyone can post any comments they like in any thread as long as it is within forum rules. No one can dictate who can or can't comment.

Yes I get that and maybe I was harsh, I am sorry. However this poster was trying to move the thread back at me and if I would tell a guy from a vanilla dating site I’m here which is nothing to do with my thread. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting

It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites

Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too

Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around

The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus

That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around

They don't

I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single.

Being lied to isn't nice

My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made

Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months

Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites

I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness

On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want

Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them'

These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach

The stories vary wildly

I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here?

Not all men cheat

Not all women cheat

I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though"

I totally agree with your friends, I gave up on dating sites for similar reasons. At least with fab you know what it is and on the whole, people are more honest with their intentions.

I'm sorry for your experience with your ex. Sounds shitty x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On a dating site designed for singles people to meet other single people to develop a relationship with feelings and honesty, it is no place for married people. Its unfair to rob some one of the opportunity of love and a future, if you're already married. Seems selfish, like you want to waste the time of a single person who wants to settle down.

I’d be thankful the chap told me he was married so i could swiftly jog on.

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win."

I agree. He’s been upfront. It’s up to you to just move on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wouldn't say it makes it okay for him to cheat but at least he is being honest. You can then make an informed decision if you want to continue the conversation or not, knowing what you could possibly be getting in to.

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting

It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites

Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too

Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around

The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus

That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around

They don't

I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single.

Being lied to isn't nice

My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made

Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months

Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites

I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness

On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want

Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them'

These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach

The stories vary wildly

I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here?

Not all men cheat

Not all women cheat

I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though"

Great and interesting post.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!!

But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men.

T

True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300!

Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most! "

We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address.

In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple.

She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts.

Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife!

Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single.

However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party?

Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even?

Genuinely interested in your views and response on this.

KJ

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting

It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites

Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too

Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around

The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus

That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around

They don't

I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single.

Being lied to isn't nice

My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made

Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months

Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites

I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness

On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want

Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them'

These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach

The stories vary wildly

I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here?

Not all men cheat

Not all women cheat

I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though"

Sorry about your ex.

You're right, not everyone cheats but in my experience, people are going to lie and cheat no matter the site. I've had guys (mainly) lie to me on here and dating sites, I wouldn't say there's much difference in what site they are on.

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By *rder66Man  over a year ago

Tatooine

Even though I dislike people who cheat as this makes them a liar and, that is something I can't and will not have in my life. There are many reason why he might be cheating and unless you ask him his reason, you will not find out your answer.

There is not one mindset that fits all organic brains. Both women and men lie for various reason but, he did tell you upfront. Did he say what type of relationship he wanted, perhaps he just wanted someone to share conversation with.

Regardless, I would waste energy trying to finger it out, male or female, a liar is not worth the time and energy and you spending that time and enegry thinking about it is their negative energy infecting your positive energy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It means he's being dishonest to his wife, but not to you. I think the rationale is you're less likely disapprove of his behaviour because he hasn't personally betrayed you in any way because he's been honest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse"

She's not in a high horse. She's just saying she isn't looking to date married men. Why should she not express that?

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham


"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse"

Married women do get slated too but admittedly it's more the men that do. Don't take things to heart on here.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse"

So I’m on a ‘dating’ site innocently assuming single people want to date so how can a married person actually ‘date’? On my profile on that site I state no married men yet they contact me. I’m not on a high horse, you are! My thread is nothing to do with married men on Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse"

But this is about dating sites. Why put yourself on a dating site if you are married. How is that fair? Male or female. What future can you offer a single person, if you are already committed to another relationship?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's the internet.

People lie.

You learned he was married early on - surely that's a good thing.

Next

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By *andybeachWoman  over a year ago

In the middle

Personally I would appreciate his honesty so early on then I would just say no thank you and leave it at that. I wouldn’t want to question why, it’s not my business.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Got my answer, when I told him to sort his marriage out he has blocked me.

Just another married cheat but on a dating site.

I continue my quest to find someone decent "

im confused as to what other answer you thought there might be? he already told you he was a married cheat himself

when he told you he was testing the water with were you ok with it, your response told him no so he did what you should have done and went looking for someone else instead

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single

"

i mostly agree with this except for the last bit only because what sites are for what purpose is very blurry now - most of your apps are for “dating” but most being used for a range of things including hookups. unless it was a paid subscription service i would still be wary of folks status as part of asking what they were looking for

the only reason married men on vanilla dating apps surprises me is their naivety that they wont get caught, the sites are so mainstream, you can’t hide your profile and talk to people selectively, you never know who might be swiping you next - any neighbour, family member, friend - its playing with fire for sure

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

swansea

Most of us discover the internet whilst going through the separate bedroom scenarios before going on to separate houses, so who are we to judge anyone by their current marital status, men or women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse

So I’m on a ‘dating’ site innocently assuming single people want to date so how can a married person actually ‘date’? On my profile on that site I state no married men yet they contact me. I’m not on a high horse, you are! My thread is nothing to do with married men on Fab. "

But my comments was because if you meet a single guy on vanilla site...would you at some point tell him you are on a swingers site? Remember a lot of people have the wrong assumption about swingers so he might feel your cheating? That's all im commenting on...nothing on you personally op

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!!

But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men.

T

True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300!

Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most!

We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address.

In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple.

She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts.

Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife!

Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single.

However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party?

Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even?

Genuinely interested in your views and response on this.

KJ"

absolutely not, what she did is at the very least verging on criminal behaviour, and hurt or not “the woman scorned” is no excuse

if some fab user got butt hurt and rejected on here and did this to someone else we wouldn’t say oh well you went on fab knowing it was a risk so it is in some part deserved, so i don't see why we should say to people who get involved with someone married ah well you knew it could happen so its in some part deserved

yes you should know that if it goes tits up that is on your conscience- but any of the rest of that behaviour is all entirely on that woman

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Got my answer, when I told him to sort his marriage out he has blocked me.

Just another married cheat but on a dating site.

I continue my quest to find someone decent "

I have found in the past that many men have profiles across several dating apps and Fab also. I only bother with Fab now.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London

In my opinion, married people should not be on conventional dating sites.

People will be on there looking for life partners.

A lot of dating sites aren't solely used for dating though, so, as long as they are honest about not looking for a life partner (assuming monogamy) then I have no objection to them being there.

Their revenue-if there's a payment option-will help to keep the sites running.

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


" I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single

i mostly agree with this except for the last bit only because what sites are for what purpose is very blurry now - most of your apps are for “dating” but most being used for a range of things including hookups. unless it was a paid subscription service i would still be wary of folks status as part of asking what they were looking for

the only reason married men on vanilla dating apps surprises me is their naivety that they wont get caught, the sites are so mainstream, you can’t hide your profile and talk to people selectively, you never know who might be swiping you next - any neighbour, family member, friend - its playing with fire for sure "

Because enough people don't want to get involved that they tend to get away with it. My ex cheated on me with someone he met on Tinder. Tinder was the main dating app for my age group at the time. Someone I know must have seen him on there.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London

As for the mindset: my married female friend was bored-after losing her 3 boyfriends she was cheating on her husband with-and joined a swipe right dating site.

I asked her why and she said out of boredom and she loves the attention.

She had no intention of meeting anyone, and was leading them on.

She does love her husband, but he bores her.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


" I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not.

Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too.

For me it is about honesty.

However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single

i mostly agree with this except for the last bit only because what sites are for what purpose is very blurry now - most of your apps are for “dating” but most being used for a range of things including hookups. unless it was a paid subscription service i would still be wary of folks status as part of asking what they were looking for

the only reason married men on vanilla dating apps surprises me is their naivety that they wont get caught, the sites are so mainstream, you can’t hide your profile and talk to people selectively, you never know who might be swiping you next - any neighbour, family member, friend - its playing with fire for sure

Because enough people don't want to get involved that they tend to get away with it. My ex cheated on me with someone he met on Tinder. Tinder was the main dating app for my age group at the time. Someone I know must have seen him on there. "

I've seen a new partner of my daughter's friend on here, brazenly showing his face and calling himself a single man, while she's on Facebook singing his praises and telling the world how much better he is than her bastard of an ex.

I don't get involved in relationships, but my heart breaks for her.

In Essex speak, he's mugging her off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've been on dating sites too and found there's a lot of married women on them too. During conversations one woman admitted she was married and only on the site for compliments and sex. There was was another woman who swore she was single and wasn't involved with anyone else but later let slip she was on a BDSM site having sex with multiple men while lying to me. So it seems that both men and women are often not totally honest on dating sites.

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple  over a year ago

Exeter

We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

"

Not necessarily. They want sex with you and possibly want to be invited back.

Being a cheat at marriage doesn't mean you won't respect other people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

Not necessarily. They want sex with you and possibly want to be invited back.

Being a cheat at marriage doesn't mean you won't respect other people. "

this is true, i got involved with an attached guy from here a while back and for a year and a half he treated me better than any other man i have been involved with , in the end i stupidly fell for him and his impending wedding was too much for me, i ended it and only at that point would i say it wasn’t a nice situation,

i started questioning everything they ever said to me with new eyes and thinking that was just lies and manipulation to get what they wanted, of course if they lie to their mrs they can lie to me. but if i look at it objectively rather than through hurt eyes , even then he didn’t disrespect me, he just said neither of us had expected it to go that far or go on as long as it did and while he cared for me he didn’t feel the same - which is 100% on me - i knew the situation when i got involved, i knew he would never want more and if i am honest even when i did love him i didn’t want the reality of more, got myself into a stupid situation where there was no good ending and effectively mugged myself off

but if i was a couple on here and knew there was no risk of any of that messiness, i wouldn’t assume an attached guy couldn’t respect me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

"

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing..."

Your shoehorn is big today haha I like it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing..."

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above "

Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above

Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here"

no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above

Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here

no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white "

Unfortunately it isn't to everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above

Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here

no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white

Unfortunately it isn't to everyone. "

i can see how one half of a couple playing solo with permission could be seen more grey but a couple on here on a couples profile vs a single person admitting to cheating, i can’t comprehend how anyone, even the cheater could see that as not being entirely opposite

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. "

They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. "

lots of people are honest with strangers rather than the people closest to them about many things , not just cheating

often the people closest in your life can be the hardest people to be honest with - just look at the threads about depression where people post openly here but din’t feel they can talk to family as an example

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By *gent CoulsonMan  over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

lots of people are honest with strangers rather than the people closest to them about many things , not just cheating

often the people closest in your life can be the hardest people to be honest with - just look at the threads about depression where people post openly here but din’t feel they can talk to family as an example "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive? "

I find it’s the norm for those who cheat.

They try to justify it online because in my opinion they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’re doing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above

Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here

no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white

Unfortunately it isn't to everyone.

i can see how one half of a couple playing solo with permission could be seen more grey but a couple on here on a couples profile vs a single person admitting to cheating, i can’t comprehend how anyone, even the cheater could see that as not being entirely opposite "

Remember the "single" cheater is thinking with his penis

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"We get married guys on the sly messaging us.

How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person.

My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing...

no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park

one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above

Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here

no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white

Unfortunately it isn't to everyone.

i can see how one half of a couple playing solo with permission could be seen more grey but a couple on here on a couples profile vs a single person admitting to cheating, i can’t comprehend how anyone, even the cheater could see that as not being entirely opposite "

I agree it's not the same but general society can be quite black and white about these things. I've known people to say that swingers can't be upset or surprised when one cheats when they let them sleep with other people. Some people genuinely don't seem to understand that there's a difference between it happening with your full consent and knowledge and it happening behind your back.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives.

"

i agree, nobody in life is all good or all bad, all honest or all liars,

we all have multiple elements to us and different people in different settings and different circumstances bring out those elements

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was on here before as a married 'cheater' men seemed to like the fact I wasn't single though!

But now I'm actually single I would never entertain a married man..double standards I suppose

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive?

I find it’s the norm for those who cheat.

They try to justify it online because in my opinion they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’re doing. "

he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab

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By *ommo60Man  over a year ago

STOCKPORT

how do you know the state of his marriage..it could be a living hell that he would love to get out of..but due to circumstances he could be trapped..we are all very forward in criticising....oh by the way..lots of married WOMEN cheat and use dating sites too..but I dont hear men complaining about that .

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny


"oh by the way..lots of married WOMEN cheat and use dating sites too..but I dont hear men complaining about that ."

Because if they did it would lessen the pool of people they can hopefully put their dick in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab.

Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse"

Probably because most women who are married and cheating don’t tend to go around telling those on the forum looking for sympathy or acceptance. It’s not double standards when those of us who don’t agree with cheating, don’t agree with it as a whole, doesn’t matter the gender.

People judge all the time, you’ve just judged those who judge, why is that okay, but it’s not okay to judge those who deceive people who are supposed to be the most important in their life?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"how do you know the state of his marriage..it could be a living hell that he would love to get out of..but due to circumstances he could be trapped..we are all very forward in criticising....oh by the way..lots of married WOMEN cheat and use dating sites too..but I dont hear men complaining about that ."

presumably the OP isn’t dating women so wouldn’t have that experience to post about, nobody claimed it was only men that do it, if men want to complain about women doing the same they are free to post

If men have no complaints about it, that doesn’t mean the OP has to be ok with meeting married men - it’s a personal choice to each personal where their boundary lies no matter what the gender

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By *armupartistMan  over a year ago

York


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive?

I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions.

But the original post wasn't about men on fab who have permission to seek sex outside of their relationship. It was about men on dating sites seeking friendship behind their partners back.

"

I understand and appreciate now that she was talking about dating sites not Fab. Being naive when it comes to these things. I have only ever used Fab which came about after I met a swinging couple whist on a skiing holiday, on my own (my wife doesn't ski). The seed was sown and I began the delicate negotiation with my wife that I could give it a go. This did not happen immediately because during our talks we also decided to seek counselling... too long a story but eventually I started to look on Fab. I am certainly more at peace with our marriage now that my sex life is not totally barren, it has been good for both of us!

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By *gent CoulsonMan  over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

At least he told you he was married, a lot of dating sites have unhappily married men and women on them looking for a new relationship or just sex

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives.

"

No, they’re being open & upfront about their marital situation.

The word “honest” literally means “free of deceit” someone cheating on their husband or wife isn’t free of deceit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

lots of people are honest with strangers rather than the people closest to them about many things , not just cheating

often the people closest in your life can be the hardest people to be honest with - just look at the threads about depression where people post openly here but din’t feel they can talk to family as an example "

There’s a difference between being honest with strangers about something that you haven’t lied about to your closest ones compared to lying to your closest ones and being upfront to strangers.

I’m sure most people don’t talk about their sex lives to their loved ones but will freely talk about it to strangers for example.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!

Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit!

If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts.

No one was attacking you do why so defensive?

I find it’s the norm for those who cheat.

They try to justify it online because in my opinion they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’re doing.

he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab "

So he says.

My point still stands for those who come on the forum to justify their cheating then have a hissy fit when they’re not met with supportive posts.

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield


"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!!

But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men.

T

True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300!

Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most!

We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address.

In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple.

She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts.

Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife!

Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single.

However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party?

Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even?

Genuinely interested in your views and response on this.

KJ"

Wow. That’s very sobering.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives.

No, they’re being open & upfront about their marital situation.

The word “honest” literally means “free of deceit” someone cheating on their husband or wife isn’t free of deceit. "

this is pedantic, an alternative meaning is truthful and sincere which in his discussion with the OP he was

swap the word honest out for one of its synonyms if it suits better , truthful, upfront, frank, open, candid

the point people were making was the OP had the facts she needed to choose how to proceed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He’s obviously not honest though is he?

I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest.

It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married.

They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives.

No, they’re being open & upfront about their marital situation.

The word “honest” literally means “free of deceit” someone cheating on their husband or wife isn’t free of deceit.

this is pedantic, an alternative meaning is truthful and sincere which in his discussion with the OP he was

swap the word honest out for one of its synonyms if it suits better , truthful, upfront, frank, open, candid

the point people were making was the OP had the facts she needed to choose how to proceed "

I already did say “open” and “upfront” in the post you’ve quoted.

Honest isn’t the right word in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab

So he says.

My point still stands for those who come on the forum to justify their cheating then have a hissy fit when they’re not met with supportive posts.

"

when your profile is unhidden it presumably states your current status - do you expect “well so she says” response to that be it single married or otherwise?

seems like your default setting is everyone is an untrustworthy liar until they prove otherwise - must be a difficult and negative place to navigate life from

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield

Just to put an opposite slant on things in a slightly funny way.

A married hotwife couple I know on here. Out of the blue the female got a lot of attention on Facebook from an old boyfriend from way back. He gave her the line about you were the one that got away. If only I could spend a night with you.

Now this Facebook guy knew nothing of this ladies Fab side, but he knew she was married. The couple were just embarking on the hotwife lifestyle so with her husbands permission she started to see the Facebook guy.

It was quite a few months and “illicit” dates later that she announced to Facebook guy that her husband knew she was seeing him. He was of course horrified to discover that their “affair” had been rumbled. Until she spilled the beans that of course husband was more than happy for her to see him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab

So he says.

My point still stands for those who come on the forum to justify their cheating then have a hissy fit when they’re not met with supportive posts.

when your profile is unhidden it presumably states your current status - do you expect “well so she says” response to that be it single married or otherwise?

seems like your default setting is everyone is an untrustworthy liar until they prove otherwise - must be a difficult and negative place to navigate life from "

Yes, I expect that many likely won’t believe everything I say on my profile, not that it bothers me.

I don’t need to come to the forum to justify what I type. Those who believe what I write will be the ones I meet.

The latter part of your post I don’t think even warrants a response as it’s a huge assumption to make based on a few posts, it seems my opinion has offended you somewhat, but I’ll say this, I’m a hugely positive person who is very happy most of the time. Not believing everything people say doesn’t mean one leads a negative life. I’d rather have a bit of realism than be blindly naive and believe everyone is honest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This might be controversial but I don’t mind physical cheating. It’s emotional cheating that’s the bad one (imo) and going on a dating site to find ‘friendship’ really crosses a boundary.

If a married man wants an emotional connection with someone else then maybe it’s time to leave the marriage

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By *andaele50Couple  over a year ago

Fcuksville

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We get fed up with my wife doesn't understand me, and she knows I'm here! I know some people don't care, but we definitely don't want to be part of the drama and heartache caused if said wife finds out. And a cheat isn't a sexy trait to us

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds

I have many reasons not to meet married men. One is that I would have to work around his schedule and be somewhat a doormat for when he is free. Two is I don’t need drama in my life, the hurt it causes and the dishonesty, I could not handle that. I think if someone is looking elsewhere for sex or whatever they are not happy in the marriage and should end it.

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By *picMan  over a year ago

Petworth

Just as many married women on them as men.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just as many married women on them as men."

Who said there isn’t?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

I think... some people enjoy the idea of hooking up with someone who’s married? So perhaps hoping it appeals to those he messages. I’ve defo seen on profiles they want to meet married men/ women only.

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By *hrista BellendWoman  over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Maybe he is looking for someone to talk to about it in the friendship, especially if he has no understanding friends to talk to, this is also quite common on here many of the fab singles just want to chat with no Intention of meeting as they think they have nowhere else to turn

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Lots of married people look elsewhere for sex or emotional intimacy, it's been happening since monogamous marriage was a thing. The reasons are as varied as the people themselves

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield


"Just as many married women on them as men."

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy.

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By *viatrixWoman  over a year ago

Redhill


"Maybe he is looking for someone to talk to about it in the friendship, especially if he has no understanding friends to talk to, this is also quite common on here many of the fab singles just want to chat with no Intention of meeting as they think they have nowhere else to turn"

Exactly this.

I have married friends who I’ve met on here and never met in person. We’ve supported each other through bad times.

One of them especially- first person I met on Fab in person- though we’ve kept things platonic to make our lives easier- is my best male friend, my confidante. If anything terrible happened to my family he’d the the first one I’d call.

Fair enough if you don’t want to get involved in such complicated relationships, OP, but there *are* people just looking for friendship.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just as many married women on them as men.

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. "

i think thats far too simplistic - the reasons are varied no matter what the gender

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've met married woman plenty of times in hotels.

Not interested in the issues.

Just the fun

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Just as many married women on them as men.

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. "

I would say that statement is full of crap and a way to excuse some one gender doing it while knocking the other for the same thing.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"Just as many married women on them as men.

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. "

All genders cheat and both think they can get away with it.

As for being unhappy, a man can be just as unhappy as a woman, it’s not reserved for one gender.

There are lots of reasons why people do, but unless you are in their shoes and their life we have no right to judge why someone does what they do. Everyone’s situation is different

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just as many married women on them as men.

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. "

Thats just not correct is it.

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By *elpful and caringMan  over a year ago

Scarborough

Very well said Shortie

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"Maybe he is looking for someone to talk to about it in the friendship, especially if he has no understanding friends to talk to, this is also quite common on here many of the fab singles just want to chat with no Intention of meeting as they think they have nowhere else to turn"

Spot on

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Just as many married women on them as men.

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy.

All genders cheat and both think they can get away with it.

As for being unhappy, a man can be just as unhappy as a woman, it’s not reserved for one gender.

There are lots of reasons why people do, but unless you are in their shoes and their life we have no right to judge why someone does what they do. Everyone’s situation is different "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

Exactly this so many women to I only like single lady's to play with once a cheat always a cheat if the person is not getting any or relationship is dead MeV on and start again I did and me and my ex are still friends and in the long run its the best decision but lots just stay together for the sake of it and some are too scared to make a change and move on

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By *otSoPoshWoman  over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Just as many married women on them as men.

I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. "

I'd say that's not only really simplistic, but sexist and ridiculous.

Some men cheat because they can get away with it. Some women also cheat because they can get away with it.

The same goes for being desperately unhappy. Yes, women cheat because of that but so do men. Men can be just as unhappy as women ffs.

And there are a myriad of reasons in between those two reasons.

Judging people doesn't help them. All you can do is make a decision for how much interaction you're going to have with any person based on the information you have about them

OP, at least you were given the information you needed to make an decision for yourself. Someone else might make a different decision based on the facts they have. And that's their call.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everybody to their own, nobody is perfect and we all have faults. If it's not for you politely move on or get a job with the morality police.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman  over a year ago

Victoria, London

will all end in tears and i'd stay well away

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everybody to their own, nobody is perfect and we all have faults. If it's not for you politely move on or get a job with the morality police."

Or we can just you know, express our opinions on cheats as can anyone else.

In life not everyone is going to lick your arse and agree with your choices. If people are going to mention things that may be controversial they should be prepared for the comments (within the rules) that they may get.

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By *ilverjagMan  over a year ago

swansea

When I was seeing a lady from West Sussex for twenty one month's, on the weekends we felt like doing a swinging scenario, her preference was to meet married guys because, married guys were far less likely to take risks with their health on account of what they could take home with them. Also there was never any problems with married men making nuisances of themselves, or over stepping the mark as far as her comfort zone was concerned, or resorting to stalking because, they invariably had too much to lose if any shit hit the fan.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When I was seeing a lady from West Sussex for twenty one month's, on the weekends we felt like doing a swinging scenario, her preference was to meet married guys because, married guys were far less likely to take risks with their health on account of what they could take home with them. Also there was never any problems with married men making nuisances of themselves, or over stepping the mark as far as her comfort zone was concerned, or resorting to stalking because, they invariably had too much to lose if any shit hit the fan."

That’s a big generalisation.

The married guy who deceived me and said he was single not only tried several times to convince me to go bareback and claim he doesn’t slept with anyone else so it would be safe, he also stalked me and threatened me with k*dnap & assault when I found out that he was attached & ended it. I won’t go into detail but his stalking lasted over a year and ended up with the police involved.

It’s silly to think that married guys are somewhat “better” because they have a wife at home. Some people are just shitty people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

How do you mean why does it make okay to admit that? Would you not rather know his situation? Also I'm sure married women do this also.

Does this situation only extend to married people? Does being married mean that an affair or cheating is any more significant? Or the type of relationship you may have with a person?

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"When I was seeing a lady from West Sussex for twenty one month's, on the weekends we felt like doing a swinging scenario, her preference was to meet married guys because, married guys were far less likely to take risks with their health on account of what they could take home with them. Also there was never any problems with married men making nuisances of themselves, or over stepping the mark as far as her comfort zone was concerned, or resorting to stalking because, they invariably had too much to lose if any shit hit the fan.

That’s a big generalisation.

The married guy who deceived me and said he was single not only tried several times to convince me to go bareback and claim he doesn’t slept with anyone else so it would be safe, he also stalked me and threatened me with k*dnap & assault when I found out that he was attached & ended it. I won’t go into detail but his stalking lasted over a year and ended up with the police involved.

It’s silly to think that married guys are somewhat “better” because they have a wife at home. Some people are just shitty people. "

So much generalisation on here from people. It’s certainly opened my eyes.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

I would think dating sites would be riddled with married people.

At least he told you so you could make your own decision

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By *igT-Time-4-FunMan  over a year ago

Dunstable SOCIAL or fun let's chat


"So you know he’s married.

So you can choose whether to take it any further.

So you can’t turn around and say “if I knew you were married I would never have got involved”."

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Good point well made.

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By *igT-Time-4-FunMan  over a year ago

Dunstable SOCIAL or fun let's chat


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win."

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry "

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

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By *affron40Woman  over a year ago

manchester


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! "

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! "

That’s a very narrow minded point of view but it’s yours and you’re entitled.

They can date, just like you can.

Personally I think people are free to make their own life choices and if I don’t like their choice it’s really really really really really really really really really really really easy to ignore them without question.

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By *igT-Time-4-FunMan  over a year ago

Dunstable SOCIAL or fun let's chat


"Been asked a thousand times , this site and no doubt others are flooded with married men. If their so unhappy makes you wonder why they are Married but in reality they like to have their cake and eat it . I can understand it if there in a sexless or boring relationship but I don’t condone it "

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Your last sentence is what its about on here imho.

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And by the way its not just MEN 100s of MARRIED WOMEN hidden on these sites aswell.

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Some just want leg over NOW THATS NOT ON tbh.

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Some are under sexed by there other halfs and there is no resolution.

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But that asker still has a high sex drive and a self wank is not satisfactory.

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They may still LOVE there partner as a person.

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But a need is a need weather right or wrong and fwb or nsa fun is better that a full on affair in there eyes.

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I speak from one of my good female friends experience and I understand and she is very sexuauly full on.

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Terry x

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By *igT-Time-4-FunMan  over a year ago

Dunstable SOCIAL or fun let's chat

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By *igT-Time-4-FunMan  over a year ago

Dunstable SOCIAL or fun let's chat


"There are many reasons why married men look for sex with others, it is also worth keeping this in perspective that married women also go behind their partners back.

Being married or with a long term partner doesn’t mean everything is good at home and it doesn’t necessarily mean that either party cares about each other any more, sometimes it’s convenient to stay together!

It’s not fair to just slate any married individual (male or female) for seeking sex elsewhere.

The main point here is he was honest with you and you can make a decision if it’s for you or note."

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My point to in a later message on here.

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? "

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another?

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!"

Cheater ...

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By *estman for the jobMan  over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I've been on the other side of the op,I met someone who was supposed to be single only to find a few meets down the road she was married and it wasn't a happy marriage (her words)so I don't tend to judge people who are married and playing solo as you don't know the story and never will but if I'm told upfront I will make an informed decision but lots of ladies as well as men won't be upfront

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

That’s a very narrow minded point of view but it’s yours and you’re entitled.

They can date, just like you can.

Personally I think people are free to make their own life choices and if I don’t like their choice it’s really really really really really really really really really really really easy to ignore them without question."

Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? "

No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging.

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By *affron40Woman  over a year ago

manchester


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? "

So you think having random sex is more acceptable?

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By *estman for the jobMan  over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. "

do u equally condone lying wives cheating on fab

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex

After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs

It seems women can just turn off, men can’t

I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa

So we aren’t all bad

Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex

After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs

It seems women can just turn off, men can’t

I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa

So we aren’t all bad

Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x

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By *hubaysi OP   Woman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex

After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs

It seems women can just turn off, men can’t

I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa

So we aren’t all bad

Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x"

So you took your vows and did not stick to them? Why don’t you end the marriage if you ‘have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs’? Or why don’t you just find out why your wife has no interest in having sex with you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think any man believes that telling you he is married will suddenly make it an OK thing.

But it's better for them to upfront so you can make that decision whether you want to pursue anything knowing he has a wife. It's much better than him lying about it and you getting strung along.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't think any man believes that telling you he is married will suddenly make it an OK thing.

But it's better for them to upfront so you can make that decision whether you want to pursue anything knowing he has a wife. It's much better than him lying about it and you getting strung along. "

Not sure if strung along is a word now I've typed it?!

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex

After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs

It seems women can just turn off, men can’t

I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa

So we aren’t all bad

Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x"

Nope you’re a cheat and a liar which makes you not a very nice person.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"I don't think any man believes that telling you he is married will suddenly make it an OK thing.

But it's better for them to upfront so you can make that decision whether you want to pursue anything knowing he has a wife. It's much better than him lying about it and you getting strung along.

Not sure if strung along is a word now I've typed it?! "

Haha yes it is a word x

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. do u equally condone lying wives cheating on fab"

Yes

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? "

They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

They're not looking for friendships they're looking for sex. Makes dating sites pointless if they're full of married cheating people or people just looking for a shag..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex

After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs

It seems women can just turn off, men can’t

I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa

So we aren’t all bad

Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x"

So I guess it would be totally okay for your wife to sleep with another man behind your back.

Right?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

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Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. do u equally condone lying wives cheating on fab"

I do.

People who cheat on their partner regardless of gender are not the kind of people I would like to meet.

Woman or man, if you’re cheating on your partner I won’t think highly of you.

I don’t understand why so many seem to think that because this thread is about men that women are automatically excused.

The only difference is women don’t tend to come in the forum to tell the world that they’re married and cheating. Men do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? "

but you are assuming that other vanilla sites are used purely for dating , everyone knows they are used for a range of things, there could just as easily be guys on there that are not married but have no intention of commitment which also wont lead to a proper loving relationship and a life together so you ask through conversation what people’s situation is and decide how to proceed from there, vanilla does not equal available for commitment

but you already knew that or you wouldn’t as you have admitted put on your vanilla site profiles “no married men to contact you”

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton


"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship.

Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat?

I’m trying to understand the mind set.

Feedback please.

Bhubaysi x

"

. He was honest enough to admit he was married and your were able to make a informed decision whether to take things further or not. I agree with you when you say how can a married person actually date.Sadly dating sites can be a lottery when looking for someone to date and maybe leading to a serious relationship.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"

People who cheat on their partner regardless of gender are not the kind of people I would like to meet.

Woman or man, if you’re cheating on your partner I won’t think highly of you.

I don’t understand why so many seem to think that because this thread is about men that women are automatically excused.

The only difference is women don’t tend to come in the forum to tell the world that they’re married and cheating.

Men do. "

So men are more honest about their circumstances than women. Why do you think that is ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED. "

I don’t remember discussing my vows with you Mrs shouty pants.

I’d just like to bring to attention the irony of this discussion being on a swinging site...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another?

They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. "

i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place?

i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sticking strictly to the question, then yes he is being honest telling you he is marrried. He is also a bit of a plank to have messaged you if you said you didnt want married people. Only he knows the reasons he is doing it or can justify them.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another?

They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women.

i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place?

i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating "

Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone.

There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever.

There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"

Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED.

I don’t remember discussing my vows with you Mrs shouty pants.

I’d just like to bring to attention the irony of this discussion being on a swinging site..."

Why? Swinging isn’t cheating there is no irony ... ethical non monogamy is completely different to married men getting their jollies furtively in secret.

Ps the person you should be discussing your behaviour with is your wife ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another?

They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women.

i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place?

i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating

Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone.

There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever.

There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of. "

what i just described was a meal , some polite conversation over dinner which i enjoy - there was no massaging of egos or cheating - you inferred that yourself

as for wanking over tinder i wouldn’t know but how would that be more damaging to their kids than wanking over porn (assuming of course that wanking isn’t something done in front of the kids)

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another?

They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women.

i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place?

i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating

Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone.

There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever.

There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of.

what i just described was a meal , some polite conversation over dinner which i enjoy - there was no massaging of egos or cheating - you inferred that yourself

as for wanking over tinder i wouldn’t know but how would that be more damaging to their kids than wanking over porn (assuming of course that wanking isn’t something done in front of the kids) "

I don’t think an adult being interested in porn is in any way the same as someone having an extra marital affair what a strange comparison.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further.

Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married.

They can't win.

----

Thats also a very good point.

And well articulated.

Terry

My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife!

So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either?

My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another?

They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women.

i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place?

i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating

Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone.

There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever.

There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of.

what i just described was a meal , some polite conversation over dinner which i enjoy - there was no massaging of egos or cheating - you inferred that yourself

as for wanking over tinder i wouldn’t know but how would that be more damaging to their kids than wanking over porn (assuming of course that wanking isn’t something done in front of the kids) "

Ha of course a married bloke wanting dinner with a sexy woman is massaging his ego .... you really think it’s not?

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By *rder66Man  over a year ago

Tatooine


"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex

After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs

It seems women can just turn off, men can’t

I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa

So we aren’t all bad

Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x"

Sex drive is the same in men and women only difference being, the frequency in women can be less but the intensity in women can be more.

But I know I'm very much in control of mine, as I have been married before, when I was married I would never cheat, regardless of how bad it did get.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED.

I don’t remember discussing my vows with you Mrs shouty pants.

I’d just like to bring to attention the irony of this discussion being on a swinging site...

Why? Swinging isn’t cheating there is no irony ... ethical non monogamy is completely different to married men getting their jollies furtively in secret.

Ps the person you should be discussing your behaviour with is your wife ... "

Thank you.

Marital advice... from a random woman displaying a picture of her bare bottom on a swinging site.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This argument is usually inconclusive. As has been said a peculiar location to have it.

Married partners who take to swinging are also breaking the vows of monogamy, mostly deceitful to the folk who believe they are happily monogamous, the congregation who witnessed the betrothal.

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