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"You're probably best asking him to understand his mind set" I have done and no response. Wondered what the Fab community thought. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " Of course it doesn't make it OK but at least he's telling you from the get go so that you can make an informed choice wether or not to meet him. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x Of course it doesn't make it OK but at least he's telling you from the get go so that you can make an informed choice wether or not to meet him. " Yes very true. I don’t meet married men though. Just wondered the mind set that’s all. I mean a ‘dating site’. Dating! Or am I over thinking things here? | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? | |||
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"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!! But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men. T" True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300! Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most! | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x Of course it doesn't make it OK but at least he's telling you from the get go so that you can make an informed choice wether or not to meet him. Yes very true. I don’t meet married men though. Just wondered the mind set that’s all. I mean a ‘dating site’. Dating! Or am I over thinking things here? " You're over thinking. Dating sites, especially free ones, are glorified contact sites for some people. If someone wants to cheat then they'll use whatever means necessary. Whilst you're not happy with his approach and he's perhaps not being honest with his wife he is at least bring honest with the people he messages. Better that than invest time in someone only to find out they're married further down the road. | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!" Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? " Exactly my thoughts too! | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!" She said dating sites not fab. She also didn't call YOU a cheater. She posted about married men using dating sites to cheat. I think you might need to reread the OP . | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating?" Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for. | |||
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"He is letting you know from the start that he is married. Why is he is on there is his own business but at least you know his status and now can make up your own mind if you want to continue to chat or whatever else. People have their own reasons for being on there or here and at least you can make the decision to continue to talk or not knowing from the start that he is married ." At last, some non judgemental common sense, thank you. | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!" If you don’t like the thread content then pass it by. This wasn’t a thread about married guys on Fab and you’re defensive because you know you are doing wrong but that’s your decision if you are happy to cheat but remember cheaters get found out by their wives eventually. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for. " That is harsh, whatever happened to freedom of speech. Anyone can post any comments they like in any thread as long as it is within forum rules. No one can dictate who can or can't comment. | |||
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" would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? " Interesting question | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for. That is harsh, whatever happened to freedom of speech. Anyone can post any comments they like in any thread as long as it is within forum rules. No one can dictate who can or can't comment. " Yes I get that and maybe I was harsh, I am sorry. However this poster was trying to move the thread back at me and if I would tell a guy from a vanilla dating site I’m here which is nothing to do with my thread. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around They don't | |||
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" would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? Interesting question" On a first date I wouldn't say anything. 3rd or 4th of I felt it had potential to go somewhere I have told people. Most were OK with it (and rather excited lol). Took one along to a BBW night. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around They don't " I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single. | |||
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"I can understand it if there in a sexless or boring relationship but I don’t condone it " Hit the nail on the head, I would think. Certainly with respect to myself at least. | |||
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" would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? Interesting question" I’m not a cheat, never have been so I would leave Fab if I met Mr Right. However I don’t meet people from Fab......I meet people in clubs and that would also stop if I met Mr Right. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " I doubt very much that he's just after "friendship" It's good that he's told you he's married so you can make your choices based on that. But claiming to be "honest" by telling you is dubious at best, liars are often Walter Mitty characters who would lie about anything but actually believe themselves ! | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " Unfortunately people in relationships do not communicate enough with each other. Particularly with regards to ones feelings. Alot feel can't be honest with their partners. These individuals, men and women alike, reach out to others out side of their primary relationship for companionship and sexual adventure. Consent, respect and open honest communication is the corner stones of any relationship. | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? " I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " For me he’s being honest regarding his ‘want’ and how he’s using the site, it’s a platform for people to meet, similar to fab for those not ever meeting on here. Sounds like he’s dishonest with those that are important, and lacks emotional confidence, if he’s not open with his wife. So it’s selective honesty I guess, about his circumstances or past etc. Perhaps he’s telling you in case you can either relate to that, as some may be able to, or you may wish to tell him where to go, which is where others can relate to as well. For me I’d have just blocked and moved on if it wasn’t ethical, just sounds like drama | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions. " But the original post wasn't about men on fab who have permission to seek sex outside of their relationship. It was about men on dating sites seeking friendship behind their partners back. | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions. " As its a site for swingers, this site is full of married and partnered people in happy open/swinging relationships . Myself included. I just made a considered assumption that wasn't what the OP was talking about. Especially as she wasn't talking about fab. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around They don't I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single. " Being lied to isn't nice My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them' These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach The stories vary wildly I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here? Not all men cheat Not all women cheat I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though | |||
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"Ask to speak to his wife, If he won't let you he's up to no good. Im married and I am completely open and honest with my wife about all things. She's met women on meets, before I've gone off to play. " LOL lol | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x Why do you call it a vanilla dating site? Also would you disclose to someone on a vanilla site that your also on a swingers site? If you dated someone from vanilla site and continued to have fun on here...is that cheating? Because it’s a vanilla dating site and from the conversations I’ve had on it, there are some guys on it looking for friendship and relationships, they come across as vanilla. It’s of no relevance to you if I would disclose my membership here to them and for your information I don’t meet people from this site. You have tried to steer my thread in another direction which is not what it was about. Leave the thread alone if you can’t give the feedback I asked for. That is harsh, whatever happened to freedom of speech. Anyone can post any comments they like in any thread as long as it is within forum rules. No one can dictate who can or can't comment. Yes I get that and maybe I was harsh, I am sorry. However this poster was trying to move the thread back at me and if I would tell a guy from a vanilla dating site I’m here which is nothing to do with my thread. " | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around They don't I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single. Being lied to isn't nice My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them' These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach The stories vary wildly I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here? Not all men cheat Not all women cheat I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though" I totally agree with your friends, I gave up on dating sites for similar reasons. At least with fab you know what it is and on the whole, people are more honest with their intentions. I'm sorry for your experience with your ex. Sounds shitty x | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win." I agree. He’s been upfront. It’s up to you to just move on. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around They don't I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single. Being lied to isn't nice My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them' These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach The stories vary wildly I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here? Not all men cheat Not all women cheat I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though" Great and interesting post. | |||
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"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!! But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men. T True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300! Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most! " We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address. In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple. She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts. Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife! Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single. However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party? Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even? Genuinely interested in your views and response on this. KJ | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x You see people here women asking men to be honest, so they can make an educated choice about meeting It is likely that behaviour is also found on dating sites Women meet married men, some women are on dating sites for fucks too Dating sites legitimise what some would regard as swinging or sleeping around The fact that married men are so lambasted here is because womens voices join and become a chorus That chorus swells and soon we believe that all women detest married men sleeping around They don't I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single. Being lied to isn't nice My ex Mrs led me through what I thought was a break up based on us 'just not getting on / breakdown' and, in doing so, I made concessions that, had I had the full information, I wouldn't have made Only after it was all over did I find out she'd been seeing someone else for the previous 12 months Anyway, back to dating sites, I know a couple of female friends who use dating sites I've introduced them to Fab and their interpretation is that, in the majority, the approaches from guys here are more genuine in their directness On dating sites, the guys build and neatly package their stories to suit what they think women want Here they do the same, but as the assumption is the women just want fucking, they lose the carefully crafted back story and show something closer to the 'real them' These two friends now retain the dating site profiles and Fab profiles purely to watch out for commonality in pictures but differences in approach The stories vary wildly I accept it's a very small sample, but it does make you think are dating sites any better than here? Not all men cheat Not all women cheat I do think it is very easy to be hoodwinked into making bad choices though" Sorry about your ex. You're right, not everyone cheats but in my experience, people are going to lie and cheat no matter the site. I've had guys (mainly) lie to me on here and dating sites, I wouldn't say there's much difference in what site they are on. | |||
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"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab. Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse" She's not in a high horse. She's just saying she isn't looking to date married men. Why should she not express that? | |||
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"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab. Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse" Married women do get slated too but admittedly it's more the men that do. Don't take things to heart on here. | |||
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"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab. Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse" So I’m on a ‘dating’ site innocently assuming single people want to date so how can a married person actually ‘date’? On my profile on that site I state no married men yet they contact me. I’m not on a high horse, you are! My thread is nothing to do with married men on Fab. | |||
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"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab. Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse" But this is about dating sites. Why put yourself on a dating site if you are married. How is that fair? Male or female. What future can you offer a single person, if you are already committed to another relationship? | |||
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"Got my answer, when I told him to sort his marriage out he has blocked me. Just another married cheat but on a dating site. I continue my quest to find someone decent " im confused as to what other answer you thought there might be? he already told you he was a married cheat himself when he told you he was testing the water with were you ok with it, your response told him no so he did what you should have done and went looking for someone else instead | |||
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" I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single " i mostly agree with this except for the last bit only because what sites are for what purpose is very blurry now - most of your apps are for “dating” but most being used for a range of things including hookups. unless it was a paid subscription service i would still be wary of folks status as part of asking what they were looking for the only reason married men on vanilla dating apps surprises me is their naivety that they wont get caught, the sites are so mainstream, you can’t hide your profile and talk to people selectively, you never know who might be swiping you next - any neighbour, family member, friend - its playing with fire for sure | |||
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"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab. Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse So I’m on a ‘dating’ site innocently assuming single people want to date so how can a married person actually ‘date’? On my profile on that site I state no married men yet they contact me. I’m not on a high horse, you are! My thread is nothing to do with married men on Fab. " But my comments was because if you meet a single guy on vanilla site...would you at some point tell him you are on a swingers site? Remember a lot of people have the wrong assumption about swingers so he might feel your cheating? That's all im commenting on...nothing on you personally op | |||
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"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!! But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men. T True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300! Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most! We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address. In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple. She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts. Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife! Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single. However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party? Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even? Genuinely interested in your views and response on this. KJ" absolutely not, what she did is at the very least verging on criminal behaviour, and hurt or not “the woman scorned” is no excuse if some fab user got butt hurt and rejected on here and did this to someone else we wouldn’t say oh well you went on fab knowing it was a risk so it is in some part deserved, so i don't see why we should say to people who get involved with someone married ah well you knew it could happen so its in some part deserved yes you should know that if it goes tits up that is on your conscience- but any of the rest of that behaviour is all entirely on that woman | |||
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"Got my answer, when I told him to sort his marriage out he has blocked me. Just another married cheat but on a dating site. I continue my quest to find someone decent " I have found in the past that many men have profiles across several dating apps and Fab also. I only bother with Fab now. | |||
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" I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single i mostly agree with this except for the last bit only because what sites are for what purpose is very blurry now - most of your apps are for “dating” but most being used for a range of things including hookups. unless it was a paid subscription service i would still be wary of folks status as part of asking what they were looking for the only reason married men on vanilla dating apps surprises me is their naivety that they wont get caught, the sites are so mainstream, you can’t hide your profile and talk to people selectively, you never know who might be swiping you next - any neighbour, family member, friend - its playing with fire for sure " Because enough people don't want to get involved that they tend to get away with it. My ex cheated on me with someone he met on Tinder. Tinder was the main dating app for my age group at the time. Someone I know must have seen him on there. | |||
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" I think it is more women, particularly single women, get fed up of being lied to. I met someone who claimed to be single and, once once I'd fallen in love, did he come clean and say he was married. It broke me and I don't think it is unfair to ask to be given the choice as whether you want to be a bit on the side or not. Agreed that there are women who prefer men to be attached for numerous reasons. I've been in that camp too. For me it is about honesty. However it also think it is fair, even if somewhat naive, to expect those on sites specifically for dating/potential relationships to be single i mostly agree with this except for the last bit only because what sites are for what purpose is very blurry now - most of your apps are for “dating” but most being used for a range of things including hookups. unless it was a paid subscription service i would still be wary of folks status as part of asking what they were looking for the only reason married men on vanilla dating apps surprises me is their naivety that they wont get caught, the sites are so mainstream, you can’t hide your profile and talk to people selectively, you never know who might be swiping you next - any neighbour, family member, friend - its playing with fire for sure Because enough people don't want to get involved that they tend to get away with it. My ex cheated on me with someone he met on Tinder. Tinder was the main dating app for my age group at the time. Someone I know must have seen him on there. " I've seen a new partner of my daughter's friend on here, brazenly showing his face and calling himself a single man, while she's on Facebook singing his praises and telling the world how much better he is than her bastard of an ex. I don't get involved in relationships, but my heart breaks for her. In Essex speak, he's mugging her off. | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. " Not necessarily. They want sex with you and possibly want to be invited back. Being a cheat at marriage doesn't mean you won't respect other people. | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. Not necessarily. They want sex with you and possibly want to be invited back. Being a cheat at marriage doesn't mean you won't respect other people. " this is true, i got involved with an attached guy from here a while back and for a year and a half he treated me better than any other man i have been involved with , in the end i stupidly fell for him and his impending wedding was too much for me, i ended it and only at that point would i say it wasn’t a nice situation, i started questioning everything they ever said to me with new eyes and thinking that was just lies and manipulation to get what they wanted, of course if they lie to their mrs they can lie to me. but if i look at it objectively rather than through hurt eyes , even then he didn’t disrespect me, he just said neither of us had expected it to go that far or go on as long as it did and while he cared for me he didn’t feel the same - which is 100% on me - i knew the situation when i got involved, i knew he would never want more and if i am honest even when i did love him i didn’t want the reality of more, got myself into a stupid situation where there was no good ending and effectively mugged myself off but if i was a couple on here and knew there was no risk of any of that messiness, i wouldn’t assume an attached guy couldn’t respect me | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. " My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing..." Your shoehorn is big today haha I like it. | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing..." no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above " Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here" no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white " Unfortunately it isn't to everyone. | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white Unfortunately it isn't to everyone. " i can see how one half of a couple playing solo with permission could be seen more grey but a couple on here on a couples profile vs a single person admitting to cheating, i can’t comprehend how anyone, even the cheater could see that as not being entirely opposite | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. " They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives. | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. " lots of people are honest with strangers rather than the people closest to them about many things , not just cheating often the people closest in your life can be the hardest people to be honest with - just look at the threads about depression where people post openly here but din’t feel they can talk to family as an example | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. lots of people are honest with strangers rather than the people closest to them about many things , not just cheating often the people closest in your life can be the hardest people to be honest with - just look at the threads about depression where people post openly here but din’t feel they can talk to family as an example " | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? " I find it’s the norm for those who cheat. They try to justify it online because in my opinion they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’re doing. | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white Unfortunately it isn't to everyone. i can see how one half of a couple playing solo with permission could be seen more grey but a couple on here on a couples profile vs a single person admitting to cheating, i can’t comprehend how anyone, even the cheater could see that as not being entirely opposite " Remember the "single" cheater is thinking with his penis | |||
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"We get married guys on the sly messaging us. How we see it is if they don't have any respect for their own wife then they are hardly going to have any for a random person. My observation is if your a couple then your kinda cheating on each other(with consent) so a guy looking to cheat cant tell the difference between what he is doing and what a couple on here are doing... no ethical non monogamy is not the same as cheating, not even in the same ball park one is honest and open and one based in secrets and lies , and i say that even after what i have admitted above Thats what I was saying...a cheating guy dosent understand the couple dynamics on here no you said they can’t tell the difference - its as different as black and white Unfortunately it isn't to everyone. i can see how one half of a couple playing solo with permission could be seen more grey but a couple on here on a couples profile vs a single person admitting to cheating, i can’t comprehend how anyone, even the cheater could see that as not being entirely opposite " I agree it's not the same but general society can be quite black and white about these things. I've known people to say that swingers can't be upset or surprised when one cheats when they let them sleep with other people. Some people genuinely don't seem to understand that there's a difference between it happening with your full consent and knowledge and it happening behind your back. | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives. " i agree, nobody in life is all good or all bad, all honest or all liars, we all have multiple elements to us and different people in different settings and different circumstances bring out those elements | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? I find it’s the norm for those who cheat. They try to justify it online because in my opinion they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’re doing. " he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab | |||
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"oh by the way..lots of married WOMEN cheat and use dating sites too..but I dont hear men complaining about that ." Because if they did it would lessen the pool of people they can hopefully put their dick in. | |||
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"There are plenty of married women on this site, yet I still haven’t seen any posts about the topic, usual double standards on fab. Also who are people to judge without knowing the background/reason of why someone is on a fab or any other sites? Get off your high horse" Probably because most women who are married and cheating don’t tend to go around telling those on the forum looking for sympathy or acceptance. It’s not double standards when those of us who don’t agree with cheating, don’t agree with it as a whole, doesn’t matter the gender. People judge all the time, you’ve just judged those who judge, why is that okay, but it’s not okay to judge those who deceive people who are supposed to be the most important in their life? | |||
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"how do you know the state of his marriage..it could be a living hell that he would love to get out of..but due to circumstances he could be trapped..we are all very forward in criticising....oh by the way..lots of married WOMEN cheat and use dating sites too..but I dont hear men complaining about that ." presumably the OP isn’t dating women so wouldn’t have that experience to post about, nobody claimed it was only men that do it, if men want to complain about women doing the same they are free to post If men have no complaints about it, that doesn’t mean the OP has to be ok with meeting married men - it’s a personal choice to each personal where their boundary lies no matter what the gender | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? I was only making and illustrating the point that not all arrived men playing here are cheaters. I know from my Fab friends their are many many cheaters here and was disassociating those who aren't and at the same time myself from that label. The OP does use that word. I'm happy and comfortable with what I do on here, my wife understands. I can assure you that I have no desire or intention of imposing my sexual needs on a woman I have been married to for nearly 50 years and who sadly takes no pleasure from it. Sex is a joyful, pleasurable indulgence when there is mutual, shared desire. I have found that here and apologise to the OP if she feels I was attacking her. She was interested in the opinion of Fabbers. Fabbers come in all shapes and sizes and circumstances. I merely thought mine would add to the range of opinions. But the original post wasn't about men on fab who have permission to seek sex outside of their relationship. It was about men on dating sites seeking friendship behind their partners back. " I understand and appreciate now that she was talking about dating sites not Fab. Being naive when it comes to these things. I have only ever used Fab which came about after I met a swinging couple whist on a skiing holiday, on my own (my wife doesn't ski). The seed was sown and I began the delicate negotiation with my wife that I could give it a go. This did not happen immediately because during our talks we also decided to seek counselling... too long a story but eventually I started to look on Fab. I am certainly more at peace with our marriage now that my sex life is not totally barren, it has been good for both of us! | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives. " No, they’re being open & upfront about their marital situation. The word “honest” literally means “free of deceit” someone cheating on their husband or wife isn’t free of deceit. | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. lots of people are honest with strangers rather than the people closest to them about many things , not just cheating often the people closest in your life can be the hardest people to be honest with - just look at the threads about depression where people post openly here but din’t feel they can talk to family as an example " There’s a difference between being honest with strangers about something that you haven’t lied about to your closest ones compared to lying to your closest ones and being upfront to strangers. I’m sure most people don’t talk about their sex lives to their loved ones but will freely talk about it to strangers for example. | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater! Was it you who messaged her on the saying dote? Cos if not then she didn't call you a cheater and you're kind of projecting a little bit! If your wife is fully aware of what you do on here then I'd say you are not a cheater but in an open relationship of sorts. No one was attacking you do why so defensive? I find it’s the norm for those who cheat. They try to justify it online because in my opinion they aren’t 100% comfortable with what they’re doing. he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab " So he says. My point still stands for those who come on the forum to justify their cheating then have a hissy fit when they’re not met with supportive posts. | |||
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"We have no problem with married men because if they want to risk their marriage then that’s their look out not ours!! But we fully understand why people don’t like meeting married men. T True but I (The Boy) don’t want an angry wife yelling at my door at 0300! Also, ethical non monogamy requires trust, how can you trust him if he deceives the people who should be able to trust him the most! We know a lovely couple who's lives were made pure hell because they met a guy who lied and said he was single. He wife found his fab account on his phone and saw all the flirty messages, naughty pics of the couples, the verifications left to each other and even worse the couples real names and home address. In her hurt and anger her venom was mainly aimed at the innocence couple. She made their lives a living hell, nude pictures of the couple were left on cars at their workplace, she told their family through social media and plastered it all over social media as well, the couples employers had to find out due to all the pics on the cars in the car park. It ended up with the police and the courts. Funny she forgave her husband. As he attended the court with his wife! Now that couple in our opinion were truly innocent in our view as the husband told them he was single. However you state you will knowingly meet married men, so if the same thing happens to you one day (its happened to many with various degrees of damage) would you even be able to be considered an innocent party? Would the venom from the wife aimed at you be in some part deserved even? Genuinely interested in your views and response on this. KJ" Wow. That’s very sobering. | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives. No, they’re being open & upfront about their marital situation. The word “honest” literally means “free of deceit” someone cheating on their husband or wife isn’t free of deceit. " this is pedantic, an alternative meaning is truthful and sincere which in his discussion with the OP he was swap the word honest out for one of its synonyms if it suits better , truthful, upfront, frank, open, candid the point people were making was the OP had the facts she needed to choose how to proceed | |||
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"He’s obviously not honest though is he? I mean unless his wife knows he’s on a dating site looking for friendship he isn’t honest. It does amuse me when married people say they’re being “honest” by stating on their profile that they’re married. They are though. They're being honest about their marital situation, not stating they are honest in every aspect of their lives. No, they’re being open & upfront about their marital situation. The word “honest” literally means “free of deceit” someone cheating on their husband or wife isn’t free of deceit. this is pedantic, an alternative meaning is truthful and sincere which in his discussion with the OP he was swap the word honest out for one of its synonyms if it suits better , truthful, upfront, frank, open, candid the point people were making was the OP had the facts she needed to choose how to proceed " I already did say “open” and “upfront” in the post you’ve quoted. Honest isn’t the right word in my opinion. | |||
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" he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab So he says. My point still stands for those who come on the forum to justify their cheating then have a hissy fit when they’re not met with supportive posts. " when your profile is unhidden it presumably states your current status - do you expect “well so she says” response to that be it single married or otherwise? seems like your default setting is everyone is an untrustworthy liar until they prove otherwise - must be a difficult and negative place to navigate life from | |||
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" he has already posted twice that his wife is fully aware and in agreement with his use of fab So he says. My point still stands for those who come on the forum to justify their cheating then have a hissy fit when they’re not met with supportive posts. when your profile is unhidden it presumably states your current status - do you expect “well so she says” response to that be it single married or otherwise? seems like your default setting is everyone is an untrustworthy liar until they prove otherwise - must be a difficult and negative place to navigate life from " Yes, I expect that many likely won’t believe everything I say on my profile, not that it bothers me. I don’t need to come to the forum to justify what I type. Those who believe what I write will be the ones I meet. The latter part of your post I don’t think even warrants a response as it’s a huge assumption to make based on a few posts, it seems my opinion has offended you somewhat, but I’ll say this, I’m a hugely positive person who is very happy most of the time. Not believing everything people say doesn’t mean one leads a negative life. I’d rather have a bit of realism than be blindly naive and believe everyone is honest. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " I think... some people enjoy the idea of hooking up with someone who’s married? So perhaps hoping it appeals to those he messages. I’ve defo seen on profiles they want to meet married men/ women only. | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men." I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. | |||
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"Maybe he is looking for someone to talk to about it in the friendship, especially if he has no understanding friends to talk to, this is also quite common on here many of the fab singles just want to chat with no Intention of meeting as they think they have nowhere else to turn" Exactly this. I have married friends who I’ve met on here and never met in person. We’ve supported each other through bad times. One of them especially- first person I met on Fab in person- though we’ve kept things platonic to make our lives easier- is my best male friend, my confidante. If anything terrible happened to my family he’d the the first one I’d call. Fair enough if you don’t want to get involved in such complicated relationships, OP, but there *are* people just looking for friendship. | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men. I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. " i think thats far too simplistic - the reasons are varied no matter what the gender | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men. I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. " I would say that statement is full of crap and a way to excuse some one gender doing it while knocking the other for the same thing. | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men. I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. " All genders cheat and both think they can get away with it. As for being unhappy, a man can be just as unhappy as a woman, it’s not reserved for one gender. There are lots of reasons why people do, but unless you are in their shoes and their life we have no right to judge why someone does what they do. Everyone’s situation is different | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men. I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. " Thats just not correct is it. | |||
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"Maybe he is looking for someone to talk to about it in the friendship, especially if he has no understanding friends to talk to, this is also quite common on here many of the fab singles just want to chat with no Intention of meeting as they think they have nowhere else to turn" Spot on | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men. I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. All genders cheat and both think they can get away with it. As for being unhappy, a man can be just as unhappy as a woman, it’s not reserved for one gender. There are lots of reasons why people do, but unless you are in their shoes and their life we have no right to judge why someone does what they do. Everyone’s situation is different " | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " Exactly this so many women to I only like single lady's to play with once a cheat always a cheat if the person is not getting any or relationship is dead MeV on and start again I did and me and my ex are still friends and in the long run its the best decision but lots just stay together for the sake of it and some are too scared to make a change and move on | |||
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"Just as many married women on them as men. I would question this statement. Men cheat because they can get away with it. Women cheat because inside they are desperately unhappy. " I'd say that's not only really simplistic, but sexist and ridiculous. Some men cheat because they can get away with it. Some women also cheat because they can get away with it. The same goes for being desperately unhappy. Yes, women cheat because of that but so do men. Men can be just as unhappy as women ffs. And there are a myriad of reasons in between those two reasons. Judging people doesn't help them. All you can do is make a decision for how much interaction you're going to have with any person based on the information you have about them OP, at least you were given the information you needed to make an decision for yourself. Someone else might make a different decision based on the facts they have. And that's their call. | |||
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"Everybody to their own, nobody is perfect and we all have faults. If it's not for you politely move on or get a job with the morality police." Or we can just you know, express our opinions on cheats as can anyone else. In life not everyone is going to lick your arse and agree with your choices. If people are going to mention things that may be controversial they should be prepared for the comments (within the rules) that they may get. | |||
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"When I was seeing a lady from West Sussex for twenty one month's, on the weekends we felt like doing a swinging scenario, her preference was to meet married guys because, married guys were far less likely to take risks with their health on account of what they could take home with them. Also there was never any problems with married men making nuisances of themselves, or over stepping the mark as far as her comfort zone was concerned, or resorting to stalking because, they invariably had too much to lose if any shit hit the fan." That’s a big generalisation. The married guy who deceived me and said he was single not only tried several times to convince me to go bareback and claim he doesn’t slept with anyone else so it would be safe, he also stalked me and threatened me with k*dnap & assault when I found out that he was attached & ended it. I won’t go into detail but his stalking lasted over a year and ended up with the police involved. It’s silly to think that married guys are somewhat “better” because they have a wife at home. Some people are just shitty people. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " How do you mean why does it make okay to admit that? Would you not rather know his situation? Also I'm sure married women do this also. Does this situation only extend to married people? Does being married mean that an affair or cheating is any more significant? Or the type of relationship you may have with a person? | |||
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"When I was seeing a lady from West Sussex for twenty one month's, on the weekends we felt like doing a swinging scenario, her preference was to meet married guys because, married guys were far less likely to take risks with their health on account of what they could take home with them. Also there was never any problems with married men making nuisances of themselves, or over stepping the mark as far as her comfort zone was concerned, or resorting to stalking because, they invariably had too much to lose if any shit hit the fan. That’s a big generalisation. The married guy who deceived me and said he was single not only tried several times to convince me to go bareback and claim he doesn’t slept with anyone else so it would be safe, he also stalked me and threatened me with k*dnap & assault when I found out that he was attached & ended it. I won’t go into detail but his stalking lasted over a year and ended up with the police involved. It’s silly to think that married guys are somewhat “better” because they have a wife at home. Some people are just shitty people. " So much generalisation on here from people. It’s certainly opened my eyes. | |||
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"So you know he’s married. So you can choose whether to take it any further. So you can’t turn around and say “if I knew you were married I would never have got involved”." ------ Good point well made. | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win." ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry " My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! " So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! " That’s a very narrow minded point of view but it’s yours and you’re entitled. They can date, just like you can. Personally I think people are free to make their own life choices and if I don’t like their choice it’s really really really really really really really really really really really easy to ignore them without question. | |||
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"Been asked a thousand times , this site and no doubt others are flooded with married men. If their so unhappy makes you wonder why they are Married but in reality they like to have their cake and eat it . I can understand it if there in a sexless or boring relationship but I don’t condone it " ---- Your last sentence is what its about on here imho. ---- And by the way its not just MEN 100s of MARRIED WOMEN hidden on these sites aswell. ---- Some just want leg over NOW THATS NOT ON tbh. -- Some are under sexed by there other halfs and there is no resolution. ---- But that asker still has a high sex drive and a self wank is not satisfactory. ----- They may still LOVE there partner as a person. ----- But a need is a need weather right or wrong and fwb or nsa fun is better that a full on affair in there eyes. ------ I speak from one of my good female friends experience and I understand and she is very sexuauly full on. ---- Terry x | |||
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"There are many reasons why married men look for sex with others, it is also worth keeping this in perspective that married women also go behind their partners back. Being married or with a long term partner doesn’t mean everything is good at home and it doesn’t necessarily mean that either party cares about each other any more, sometimes it’s convenient to stay together! It’s not fair to just slate any married individual (male or female) for seeking sex elsewhere. The main point here is he was honest with you and you can make a decision if it’s for you or note." ----- My point to in a later message on here. | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? " My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? | |||
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"Endless threads on here on this subject... I am married and playing as a single. Upfront on my profile but in a genuinely sexless marriage. My marriage and family are everything but I came to this lifestyle and seeking couples as a safer option than dating and the risk of developing a romantic liaison which might damage my home relationship. Here my friends are fun and linked by a desire to explore our sexual mores. I could join a choir or book club if my interests were singing or reading. Fab is an online club for sex and those who want to share its joys and excitements. Not for my wife but we have come to this arrangement as best for us, so do not call me a cheater!" Cheater ... | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! That’s a very narrow minded point of view but it’s yours and you’re entitled. They can date, just like you can. Personally I think people are free to make their own life choices and if I don’t like their choice it’s really really really really really really really really really really really easy to ignore them without question." Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED. | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? " No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? " So you think having random sex is more acceptable? | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. " do u equally condone lying wives cheating on fab | |||
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"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs It seems women can just turn off, men can’t I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa So we aren’t all bad Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x" So you took your vows and did not stick to them? Why don’t you end the marriage if you ‘have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs’? Or why don’t you just find out why your wife has no interest in having sex with you? | |||
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"I don't think any man believes that telling you he is married will suddenly make it an OK thing. But it's better for them to upfront so you can make that decision whether you want to pursue anything knowing he has a wife. It's much better than him lying about it and you getting strung along. " Not sure if strung along is a word now I've typed it?! | |||
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"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs It seems women can just turn off, men can’t I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa So we aren’t all bad Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x" Nope you’re a cheat and a liar which makes you not a very nice person. | |||
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"I don't think any man believes that telling you he is married will suddenly make it an OK thing. But it's better for them to upfront so you can make that decision whether you want to pursue anything knowing he has a wife. It's much better than him lying about it and you getting strung along. Not sure if strung along is a word now I've typed it?! " Haha yes it is a word x | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. do u equally condone lying wives cheating on fab" Yes | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? " They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " They're not looking for friendships they're looking for sex. Makes dating sites pointless if they're full of married cheating people or people just looking for a shag.. | |||
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"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs It seems women can just turn off, men can’t I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa So we aren’t all bad Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x" So I guess it would be totally okay for your wife to sleep with another man behind your back. Right? | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? No I don’t not unless their spouse is aware ... cheating scums bags have no place in swinging. do u equally condone lying wives cheating on fab" I do. People who cheat on their partner regardless of gender are not the kind of people I would like to meet. Woman or man, if you’re cheating on your partner I won’t think highly of you. I don’t understand why so many seem to think that because this thread is about men that women are automatically excused. The only difference is women don’t tend to come in the forum to tell the world that they’re married and cheating. Men do. | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? " but you are assuming that other vanilla sites are used purely for dating , everyone knows they are used for a range of things, there could just as easily be guys on there that are not married but have no intention of commitment which also wont lead to a proper loving relationship and a life together so you ask through conversation what people’s situation is and decide how to proceed from there, vanilla does not equal available for commitment but you already knew that or you wouldn’t as you have admitted put on your vanilla site profiles “no married men to contact you” | |||
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"I’m on a vanilla dating site and just got a message from a guy there admitting he is married and bored and looking for friendship. Not for me, too much drama attached to that kind of friendship. Why does it make it ok to admit that and say he is honest by telling me? Does admitting that make it okay for him to cheat? I’m trying to understand the mind set. Feedback please. Bhubaysi x " . He was honest enough to admit he was married and your were able to make a informed decision whether to take things further or not. I agree with you when you say how can a married person actually date.Sadly dating sites can be a lottery when looking for someone to date and maybe leading to a serious relationship. | |||
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" People who cheat on their partner regardless of gender are not the kind of people I would like to meet. Woman or man, if you’re cheating on your partner I won’t think highly of you. I don’t understand why so many seem to think that because this thread is about men that women are automatically excused. The only difference is women don’t tend to come in the forum to tell the world that they’re married and cheating. Men do. " So men are more honest about their circumstances than women. Why do you think that is ? | |||
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" Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED. " I don’t remember discussing my vows with you Mrs shouty pants. I’d just like to bring to attention the irony of this discussion being on a swinging site... | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. " i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place? i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place? i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating " Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone. There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever. There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of. | |||
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" Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED. I don’t remember discussing my vows with you Mrs shouty pants. I’d just like to bring to attention the irony of this discussion being on a swinging site..." Why? Swinging isn’t cheating there is no irony ... ethical non monogamy is completely different to married men getting their jollies furtively in secret. Ps the person you should be discussing your behaviour with is your wife ... | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place? i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone. There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever. There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of. " what i just described was a meal , some polite conversation over dinner which i enjoy - there was no massaging of egos or cheating - you inferred that yourself as for wanking over tinder i wouldn’t know but how would that be more damaging to their kids than wanking over porn (assuming of course that wanking isn’t something done in front of the kids) | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place? i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone. There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever. There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of. what i just described was a meal , some polite conversation over dinner which i enjoy - there was no massaging of egos or cheating - you inferred that yourself as for wanking over tinder i wouldn’t know but how would that be more damaging to their kids than wanking over porn (assuming of course that wanking isn’t something done in front of the kids) " I don’t think an adult being interested in porn is in any way the same as someone having an extra marital affair what a strange comparison. | |||
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"He was being honest with you in telling you up front so you then could decide whether or not you wanted to take things further. Married men get slated for not saying they are married and being deceitful and now they are being questioned for being upfront and honest in saying they are married. They can't win. ---- Thats also a very good point. And well articulated. Terry My profile on the vanilla dating site states no married men to contact me so I don’t expect them to, when I tried to discuss his reasons for being on the site, he blocked me. It’s not that ‘they can’t win’! They should not be on a ‘dating’ site as they are unable to ‘date’ as they have a wife! So by that reasoning do you think married folk should not be allowed on here either? My thread was not about Fab. Please don’t switch it around to here. I’m unsure how married people can ‘date’. Traditional dating is not like Fab, it’s hopefully going to lead to a proper relationship where two people will love each other and set up a life together, so how could a married person give a single person that future and reassurance when he already has it with another? They can’t date ... they’re cheating if they wanted platonic company they would go to a more appropriate place not a website full of single women. i think for 90% of them you are right, but for the remaining 10% what is the more appropriate place? i’ve been on holiday alone and swiped and met guys as company for dinner in purely platonic capacity, some of which openly told me they had relationships - there is a bit of a gap in terns of finding companionship without sex which is another thing dating apps get used for alongside actual dating, hookups, fantasising ... i dont think other than paid monthly subscription sites you can take any of then at face value as used for dating Meh ..... massages an attached man’s ego because he can’t be bothered to sort his life out? Sod that I’d rather go out to dinner alone. There is no excuse apart from cowardice as laziness. Children do NOT suffer they suffer more as they have no model of a healthy relationship if dad is wanking away to people on fab/tinder whatever. There is no grey area in this you’re a decent person r a cheat end of. what i just described was a meal , some polite conversation over dinner which i enjoy - there was no massaging of egos or cheating - you inferred that yourself as for wanking over tinder i wouldn’t know but how would that be more damaging to their kids than wanking over porn (assuming of course that wanking isn’t something done in front of the kids) " Ha of course a married bloke wanting dinner with a sexy woman is massaging his ego .... you really think it’s not? | |||
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"Many married men like me are in relationships where their wife has no interest what so ever with sex After years of that without divorce you have to find alternative means of dealing with your sexual and intimacy needs It seems women can just turn off, men can’t I can’t ask you to empathise as it’s impossible to As a female to understand a male sex drive and vice versa So we aren’t all bad Best advice is don’t judge others unless you have worn those shoes x" Sex drive is the same in men and women only difference being, the frequency in women can be less but the intensity in women can be more. But I know I'm very much in control of mine, as I have been married before, when I was married I would never cheat, regardless of how bad it did get. | |||
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" Utter bollocks you took a vow to be faithful to your wife not fuck strangers on a swinging site ... your are not free to make your own choices YOURE MARRIED. I don’t remember discussing my vows with you Mrs shouty pants. I’d just like to bring to attention the irony of this discussion being on a swinging site... Why? Swinging isn’t cheating there is no irony ... ethical non monogamy is completely different to married men getting their jollies furtively in secret. Ps the person you should be discussing your behaviour with is your wife ... " Thank you. Marital advice... from a random woman displaying a picture of her bare bottom on a swinging site. | |||
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