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By *Monster OP Man over a year ago

xxx

With less than an hour to go before the £1000 fine, I’ve got the Census form filled in online

Might not seem like much to many people here, but feeling proud of myself for selecting bisexual as my sexuality...I think that’s the first time I’ve written it down anywhere outside the crazy world of Fab!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

what £1000 fine? never heard of that

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By *nked_kittenWoman over a year ago

Ankh Morpork

"With less than an hour to go before the £1000 fine, I’ve got the Census form filled in online

That’s wonderful

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By *Monster OP Man over a year ago

xxx

If you don’t fill it in, you get a £1000 fine - although they do chase you up first rather than just sending you a bill in the post tomorrow

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By *ig1gaz1Man over a year ago

bradford

Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You have several days after the date to fill it in. It says to fill it in on the 21st or close after.

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By *icolerobbieCouple over a year ago

walsall

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out. "

Purely out of interest, why not?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out. "

Such a rebel

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Well done OP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business"

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out. "

Why not?

Its mot as though they are asking for your bank details or anything.

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By *penallhrsMan over a year ago

Northampton

I don’t understand why so many have an objection to the census when this has been around for years.

People quick to sign up to Amazon,Google ,Apple,Samsung,Netflix.tiktok etc etc amazingly these hold more info about yourselves than a census. Your being logged at every search you do but won’t fill a government form that won’t be open to the public for 100 years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff. "

You dont have to, my choice!

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By *orthern StarsCouple over a year ago

Durham

I completed ours a couple of weeks ago.

I also put that I'm bisexual for the first time ever.

Mrs

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By *arakiss12TV/TS over a year ago

Bedford

No question about reparations. Asking if you consider yourself due reparations for things like losing job in past recessions due to goverment fuck ups.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"I don’t understand why so many have an objection to the census when this has been around for years.

They think it makes them edgy and interesting. It doesn't.

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By *r TriomanMan over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

I'm confused about the fine period as the instructions said to complete the census yesterday or as soon as possible; so when does the fine get imposed?

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By *edheadjMan over a year ago

High Wycombe

Took we twenty minutes to do online.

Curious to know what reasons people choose to not fill it out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out. "

Why?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?"

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site. "

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc."

Sure if you believe that the government does it's job properly. I haven't seen any evidence of that in the past few years though.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc."

Yes there are many reasons. But sometimes just doing what you're asked is enough of a reason in a community. Without the need to fight it, argue about it, need evidence that it is justified....any of the other what aboutery or what's in it for me... Sometimes its nice to know we are all part of the community that cares enough about eachother to do what is asked of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've never filled out a census.

Pretty sure I've not been on one since I left home at 17.

Never had a fine either.

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Sure if you believe that the government does it's job properly. I haven't seen any evidence of that in the past few years though."

I am not politicising it, just stating it's intention, and it does form records of social history.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

Every single business an organisation does a stock take so it makes sense that governments do the same.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

Every single business an organisation does a stock take so it makes sense that governments do the same. "

And yet...

Taking 10 minutes on a Sunday is too much for some.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've never filled out a census.

Pretty sure I've not been on one since I left home at 17.

Never had a fine either.

What's your reason for not doing it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

So in a few hundred years time, I can be on one of those ancestry programmes when someone finds out about their great, great slutty auntie Lacey

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5)."

Rude. No need for it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t understand why so many have an objection to the census when this has been around for years.

Yep the internet knows all about us already

I have no problem with the census- but I understand why people are irked by it - it's invasive.

It's the threat of the fine that gets people's backs up.

It should be voluntary.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5)."

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've never filled out a census.

Pretty sure I've not been on one since I left home at 17.

Never had a fine either.

What's your reason for not doing it?"

I have several.

Mostly, simply not wanting to.

Plus I see little point now, I've been spending half the year in Turkey for the past few years and plan to get my residency this year so I'll not live here much longer anyhoo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!"

I was the way you asked it.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

So in a few hundred years time, I can be on one of those ancestry programmes when someone finds out about their great, great slutty auntie Lacey

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another. "

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it. "

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

So in a few hundred years time, I can be on one of those ancestry programmes when someone finds out about their great, great ethical slutty auntie Lacey

"
FIFY

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

That wasn't the quote and reply we were referring to. It was implying someone was ignorant.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I've never filled out a census.

Pretty sure I've not been on one since I left home at 17.

Never had a fine either.

What's your reason for not doing it?

I have several.

Mostly, simply not wanting to.

Plus I see little point now, I've been spending half the year in Turkey for the past few years and plan to get my residency this year so I'll not live here much longer anyhoo

Will you do the one in Turkey?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it.

I agree

Yup, me too

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another.

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it."

So you only follow the laws for which you believe there is a legitimate purpose?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest."

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've never filled out a census.

Pretty sure I've not been on one since I left home at 17.

Never had a fine either.

What's your reason for not doing it?

I have several.

Mostly, simply not wanting to.

Plus I see little point now, I've been spending half the year in Turkey for the past few years and plan to get my residency this year so I'll not live here much longer anyhoo

Will you do the one in Turkey? "

Dunno, probably not unless I have to.

The government will have all the relevant info they need in order for me to get my residency.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum."

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum."

I made no such assumption about you being an arsehole, I felt your reply was disrespectful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another.

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it.

So you only follow the laws for which you believe there is a legitimate purpose? "

Yes. Don't you?

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman over a year ago
Forum Mod

My Own Little World

"You have several days after the date to fill it in. It says to fill it in on the 21st or close after.

Was just going to say this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've never filled out a census.

Pretty sure I've not been on one since I left home at 17.

Never had a fine either.

What's your reason for not doing it?

I have several.

Mostly, simply not wanting to.

Plus I see little point now, I've been spending half the year in Turkey for the past few years and plan to get my residency this year so I'll not live here much longer anyhoo

Will you do the one in Turkey?

Dunno, probably not unless I have to.

The government will have all the relevant info they need in order for me to get my residency.

If like here you have to agree to abide by all laws and do what it is required of you as a condition of residency why would you not do it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another.

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it.

So you only follow the laws for which you believe there is a legitimate purpose?

Yes. Don't you?"

I think most people follow all laws of the land.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written. "

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!"

OK i really think you read what you have written again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?"

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another.

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it.

So you only follow the laws for which you believe there is a legitimate purpose?

Yes. Don't you?

I think most people follow all laws of the land. "

I think most people absolutely do not follow all the laws.

There's so many old and outdated laws, and so many laws in general for people to follow them all.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

I think most people follow all laws of the land. "

I don't. I ate a snickers on the train.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think most people follow all laws of the land.

I don't. I ate a snickers on the train. "

That doesn't break any laws.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

OK i really think you read what you have written again. "

OK I really think you should read all the replies and his replies and then perhaps read them again without bias.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

I think most people follow all laws of the land.

I don't. I ate a snickers on the train.

That doesn't break any laws. "

It does.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

OK i really think you read what you have written again.

OK I really think you should read all the replies and his replies and then perhaps read them again without bias.

His reply? It was a woman so again I think you have just proven my point about reading again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

Well.. The fact you've not been caught isn't quite the same as being obliged to complete it.

The fact you don't get caught for (used for example only) speeding at 50mph in a built up area driving past a school doesn't mean you have to stick to the 30mph speed limit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think most people follow all laws of the land.

I don't. I ate a snickers on the train.

That doesn't break any laws.

It does. "

Care to elaborat.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

OK i really think you read what you have written again.

OK I really think you should read all the replies and his replies and then perhaps read them again without bias.

His reply? It was a woman so again I think you have just proven my point about reading again.

Really??????

"Yes there are many reasons. But sometimes just doing what you're asked is enough of a reason in a community. Without the need to fight it, argue about it, need evidence that it is justified....any of the other what aboutery or what's in it for me... Sometimes its nice to know we are all part of the community that cares enough about eachother to do what is asked of them."

I'm addressing this mostly, and secondly conversation as a whole.

I think your point is as inaccurate as it can be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

Well.. The fact you've not been caught isn't quite the same as being obliged to complete it.

The fact you don't get caught for (used for example only) speeding at 50mph in a built up area driving past a school doesn't mean you have to stick to the 30mph speed limit. "

My not filling out a form doesn't put anyone's life in danger.

In fact, the only person at risk in anyway by my not filling out that form, is me.

Don't put me in the same category as assholes who speed and put people's lives at risk all the time.

It's not the same at all!

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By *edheadjMan over a year ago

High Wycombe

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

So are you ignorant, lazy or both?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

OK i really think you read what you have written again.

OK I really think you should read all the replies and his replies and then perhaps read them again without bias.

His reply? It was a woman so again I think you have just proven my point about reading again.

Really??????

I'm addressing this mostly, and secondly conversation as a whole.

I think your point is as inaccurate as it can be."

And whats wrong with that?

No abuse, no name calling just an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

So are you ignorant, lazy or both? "

Neither. I simply don't want to fill it out. I don't see the point. The government have the info they need about me as far as I'm concerned.

Bit judgemental isn't it? For you decide I'm a lazy or ignorant person because I haven't filled out a form...

Should I assume you're an ignorant sheep for doing it?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

Well.. The fact you've not been caught isn't quite the same as being obliged to complete it.

The fact you don't get caught for (used for example only) speeding at 50mph in a built up area driving past a school doesn't mean you have to stick to the 30mph speed limit.

My not filling out a form doesn't put anyone's life in danger.

In fact, the only person at risk in anyway by my not filling out that form, is me.

Don't put me in the same category as assholes who speed and put people's lives at risk all the time.

It's not the same at all!

Its just a debate and they are the same in as much as they are laws which we are obliged to follow. Of course the consequences of breaking one being an arsehole because it has potentially tragic consequences and the other being a source of pride worthy of sharing with a forum because it has less immediate consequences are very different.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

OK i really think you read what you have written again.

OK I really think you should read all the replies and his replies and then perhaps read them again without bias.

His reply? It was a woman so again I think you have just proven my point about reading again.

Really??????

I'm addressing this mostly, and secondly conversation as a whole.

I think your point is as inaccurate as it can be.

And whats wrong with that?

No abuse, no name calling just an opinion.

Sorry did I call anyone names? I don't think so!

I said not questioning something you do is ignorance. That too is an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I'm just curious why some are so resistant to doing something very small in the grand scheme of life, especially as it's info that feeds into trying to have aspects of society that benefit as many as possible

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

You need to read what you wrote again because you made it very clear you thought it was ignorant to fill something out without question so not quite worded as you have just tried to suggest.

Ahh yes, it's not like what he said didn't have any subliminal meanings...just assuming I'm an arsehole who doesn't care about community.

It never ceases to amaze me how ironical some of the self justice statements people make on this forum.

I think you have taken this too personally and read more into what was written.

And here it happens again. Something doesn't sit right with your opinion so you try and make my opinion to be a thing of misunderstanding.

Nice!

OK i really think you read what you have written again.

OK I really think you should read all the replies and his replies and then perhaps read them again without bias.

His reply? It was a woman so again I think you have just proven my point about reading again.

Really??????

I'm addressing this mostly, and secondly conversation as a whole.

I think your point is as inaccurate as it can be.

And whats wrong with that?

No abuse, no name calling just an opinion.

Sorry did I call anyone names? I don't think so!

I said not questioning something you do is ignorance. That too is an opinion."

OK.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I HAVE to do it, I will.

If I don't, I won't.

I've never bothered in my time living here as an adult...and that choice hasn't come back to bite me on the arse yet

But you have to do it here so whats the difference?

We'll clearly I don't have to as I never have and nothing's happened to me

Well.. The fact you've not been caught isn't quite the same as being obliged to complete it.

The fact you don't get caught for (used for example only) speeding at 50mph in a built up area driving past a school doesn't mean you have to stick to the 30mph speed limit.

My not filling out a form doesn't put anyone's life in danger.

In fact, the only person at risk in anyway by my not filling out that form, is me.

Don't put me in the same category as assholes who speed and put people's lives at risk all the time.

It's not the same at all!

A source of pride?

It's a shit comparison, filling out a form and speeding aren't even close.

You can decide I'm a knobber for not filling out a form, that's cool with me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I disagree that it's going to benefit me. Or that my filling it in will benefit anyone else

Curiosity is cool...my question wasn't actually aimed at yourself but those who have argued why we should do it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I disagree that it's going to benefit me. Or that my filling it in will benefit anyone else

Curiosity is cool...my question wasn't actually aimed at yourself but those who have argued why we should do it."

You started a thread that mentions breast screening. Don't you see the relationship between the census and availability of such resources?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I disagree that it's going to benefit me. Or that my filling it in will benefit anyone else

Curiosity is cool...my question wasn't actually aimed at yourself but those who have argued why we should do it.

You started a thread that mentions breast screening. Don't you see the relationship between the census and availability of such resources?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I disagree that it's going to benefit me. Or that my filling it in will benefit anyone else

Curiosity is cool...my question wasn't actually aimed at yourself but those who have argued why we should do it.

You started a thread that mentions breast screening. Don't you see the relationship between the census and availability of such resources?"

No. I don't.

I don't need to be on a census.

The hospital have my notes and medical history if it's needed to gather information.

Nor am I gonna be guilted into filling out a form I see little point in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I disagree that it's going to benefit me. Or that my filling it in will benefit anyone else

Curiosity is cool...my question wasn't actually aimed at yourself but those who have argued why we should do it.

You started a thread that mentions breast screening. Don't you see the relationship between the census and availability of such resources?

No. I don't.

I don't need to be on a census.

The hospital have my notes and medical history if it's needed to gather information.

Nor am I gonna be guilted into filling out a form I see little point in. "

The census isn't all about you

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Can I ask those of you who take issue with those of us who don't fill it out...

Why do you care?

Does it really effect you if a few of us don't bother?

Why do we HAVE to agree with you?

It's not about agreeing with me

I disagree that it's going to benefit me. Or that my filling it in will benefit anyone else

Curiosity is cool...my question wasn't actually aimed at yourself but those who have argued why we should do it.

You started a thread that mentions breast screening. Don't you see the relationship between the census and availability of such resources?

No. I don't.

I don't need to be on a census.

The hospital have my notes and medical history if it's needed to gather information.

Nor am I gonna be guilted into filling out a form I see little point in.

The census isn't all about you

I'm aware of that. And yet you're all so keen for me to complete it.

How silly eh?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!? "

Seems to very common at the momment unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Seems to very common at the momment unfortunately.

So does people passing judgement on others personal decisions...

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By *edheadjMan over a year ago

High Wycombe

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!? "

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think. "

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Filled in 3.

One on behalf of a disabled friend...took 5 mins.

One for a lady friends 86 yrs old mother...took 5 mins.

My own took 30 mins as I had to include my female house mate and fellow fabber...currently away. Also another lady friend and her daughter who are officially registered at my address while living in a park home. Had to include 2 other addresses of lady friends for me where I stay more than 30 nights a year.

Hope I got it right....don't fancy a £1000 fine!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

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By *edheadjMan over a year ago

High Wycombe

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture."

I meant in terms of seeing people in power choosing which laws to abide by will have some effect on others thinking because they do it, they can too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture."

I'm a social liberal on the political spectrum. If I was rich I would give away the money because I do believe helping others is more beneficial than hogging it. I don't think the government has the right to fine me for not completing a census though.

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By *edheadjMan over a year ago

High Wycombe

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering."

So what other laws don't you follow? Speeding smoking in pubs? Having friends round during a pandemic?

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out. "

Such a rebel

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering."

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered? "

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

"Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?"

If that's a rude way to ask questions, we should probably stop asking questions all together

That wasn't the quote and reply we were referring to. It was implying someone was ignorant."

Ignorant means being unaware of facts. I ignorantly filled it out, unaware of why it was asked of me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

Too bad, they do

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I think not filling something out that you believe in purely because there’s a fine for not doing so I’d crazy.. I’m not a fan of the fine but it doesn’t come into it because I’m taking 10 minutes of my life to follow the rules

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

So what other laws don't you follow? Speeding smoking in pubs? Having friends round during a pandemic? "

None of those.

I don't break any laws that I think put other people at risk.

I'd be a liar if I said I'd never broken a law tho.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

I'm not sure if that is accurate. I think most people do it because they are asked to do it and because it is important. And because it takes little time or effort. I know that is my reason for doing it.

We fill in a council tax form, or a market research form and similar without batting an eyelid. For me its no more challenging than that.

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By *uliette500Woman over a year ago

Hull

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff.

You dont have to, my choice! "

By law you are supposed to fill it in. I'd rather do it than risk a fine.

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

We fill in a council tax form, or a market research form and similar without batting an eyelid. For me its no more challenging than that.

OK good for you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm also a liberal and think the government shouldn't interfere in people's freedom unless utmost necessary.

When you have to threaten people to do something that isn't necessary you're on a slippery slope.

P.S. I did fill it out, even though I'm discriminated from applying for some professions because of my heritage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish. "

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Personally, I think it's a prefer sad view of our society that someone would decide I'm a shitty person and part of the problem with society because I don't fill out a form, which would give them no more information about me than they already have btw.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm also a liberal and think the government shouldn't interfere in people's freedom unless utmost necessary.

When you have to threaten people to do something that isn't necessary you're on a slippery slope.

P.S. I did fill it out, even though I'm discriminated from applying for some professions because of my heritage."

The census is necessary though.. it’s used to work out demographics for funding and shows how society has changed in 100 years. It doesn’t affect any freedom.. it’s a positive document that remains sealed to the public for 100 years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment."

You're still not really seeing the bigger picture, are you?

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment."

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm also a liberal and think the government shouldn't interfere in people's freedom unless utmost necessary.

When you have to threaten people to do something that isn't necessary you're on a slippery slope.

P.S. I did fill it out, even though I'm discriminated from applying for some professions because of my heritage.

So perhaps they would use the demographics info of ethical backgrounds and stop discriminating against us.

But that hasn't happened in the 12 years I've lived here.

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm also a liberal and think the government shouldn't interfere in people's freedom unless utmost necessary.

When you have to threaten people to do something that isn't necessary you're on a slippery slope.

P.S. I did fill it out, even though I'm discriminated from applying for some professions because of my heritage.

So perhaps they would use the demographics info of ethical backgrounds and stop discriminating against us.

But that hasn't happened in the 12 years I've lived here."

Totally agree. But as we know, politics and laws are outdated. Which is why stuff like this has the potential to help make that change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

You're still not really seeing the bigger picture, are you?"

Oh I am...I'm simply disagreeing.

I'm gonna duck out of this conversation now.

It's a shame people always seem to have to make personal attacks on others in order to make their argument heard.

If you all decide I'm a cunt because I don't complete the census, I'm alright with that. I try not to let the opinions of strangers bother me.

I won't continue reading and engaging with people who have decided I'm selfish or "the problem with society" based on one thing they disagree with. Or trying to make me feel guilty for not doing it.

I have enough important shit yo worry about atm

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm also a liberal and think the government shouldn't interfere in people's freedom unless utmost necessary.

When you have to threaten people to do something that isn't necessary you're on a slippery slope.

P.S. I did fill it out, even though I'm discriminated from applying for some professions because of my heritage."

I agree with all of that. Laws only work when people choose to obey them. When you have to rely on getting caught to follow them... You need a lot of police or civil enforcement.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect. "

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit. "

It’s called debate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it really odd that people can argue the ‘I don’t have to’ when it’s actually a legal requirement. Since when do people pick and choose what law to abide by?!?

Must be some sort of correlation with this Tory government and Brexit, I think.

But this is nothing to do with either! People need to think of the bigger picture.

I'm also a liberal and think the government shouldn't interfere in people's freedom unless utmost necessary.

When you have to threaten people to do something that isn't necessary you're on a slippery slope.

P.S. I did fill it out, even though I'm discriminated from applying for some professions because of my heritage.

So perhaps they would use the demographics info of ethical backgrounds and stop discriminating against us.

But that hasn't happened in the 12 years I've lived here.

Totally agree. But as we know, politics and laws are outdated. Which is why stuff like this has the potential to help make that change. "

And since they're outdated we break the law probably once a week at least whether we know it or not.

Does that all make us criminals?

If not how do we decide which laws are ok to break and others not?

All I'm saying is stop threatening people to fill out a questionnaire unless you're planning to address it during your term of parliament.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Meanwhile ... other people are busy curing cancer ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Thank you.

I had no idea!

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"With less than an hour to go before the £1000 fine, I’ve got the Census form filled in online

Good for you.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion."

I think i missed the name calling starting.?

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion."

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you? "

So you called me selfish...

You also said I was the part of the problem with society.

Or at least that's how it read.

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you?

So you called me selfish...

You also said I was the part of the problem with society.

Or at least that's how it read.

Please read it properly. I said it’s selfish to only follow laws that suit you. That’s not how the law and society work.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Once upon a time, in the pre internet era, someone knocked at your door and asked you the census questions. There was no avoiding that. Census data is really important in getting an overall view of the population now and predictions of the population in 5, 10 years etc and this is used to plan education, health and other key provision and budgets. Yes, people are registered with the NHS but actually that data is not available to the planners. It's available on a need-to-know basis by healthcare workers who care for you. The Dept for Health does not go trawling your NHS records. Things like screening campaigns will rely on census data to know how many people will require screening at different points in time.

If someone doesn't have kids and therefore isn't going to require a school place, someone actually needs to know! They don't get the data in the form of "Mrs Jones of Market Street, Melton Mowbray has no kids," it's in the form of "in 2021, the Market Street area of Melton Mowbray has XXX children of pre school age, therefore in 1, 2, 3, 4 etc years we will need capacity for XXX children in reception, secondary school etc."

Also, from a purely interesting perspective, census data from the UK and further afield has enabled me to trace my ancestry, which isn't exactly what family legends said it was. I've discovered relatives I didn't know I had and learned tons about things I'd never probably have investigated if they weren't connected to my family.

The UK has run 10-yearly censuses since 1801 (excepting 1941) and so it's not exactly something new, it's bugger all to do with the Government of the day (Conservative, Labour etc, it doesn't matter) and so I am genuinely confused as to why so many people are suddenly opposed to it.

All that said, people can indeed whatever they want, £1000 fine or otherwise (which, by the way, is part of the 1921 Census Act, so again, not exactly new news).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you?

So you called me selfish...

You also said I was the part of the problem with society.

Or at least that's how it read.

Attitude/behaviour is selfish and attitude can be changed if one is willing so not an insult about the person.

'You are selfish cow'! - name calling.

'Your behaviour is selfish' is a bit different to me.

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple over a year ago

Exeter

We understand why it exists, but some of the questions are really unnecessary.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you?

So you called me selfish...

You also said I was the part of the problem with society.

Or at least that's how it read.

Please read it properly. I said it’s selfish to only follow laws that suit you. That’s not how the law and society work. "

Oh I read it.

And have done several times since. Just to make sure I'm not losing my mind.

The words you wrote implied, to me when reading it, that you were describing me as selfish, and part of the problem with society. Mainly, because that's what you said.

This is a rather pointless argument. I found what you said massively offensive and responded to it. Which you clearly found ridiculous hence your strolling and calling me dramatic.

Probably best we leave it there isn't it?

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you?

So you called me selfish...

You also said I was the part of the problem with society.

Or at least that's how it read.

Please read it properly. I said it’s selfish to only follow laws that suit you. That’s not how the law and society work.

Oh I read it.

And have done several times since. Just to make sure I'm not losing my mind.

The words you wrote implied, to me when reading it, that you were describing me as selfish, and part of the problem with society. Mainly, because that's what you said.

This is a rather pointless argument. I found what you said massively offensive and responded to it. Which you clearly found ridiculous hence your strolling and calling me dramatic.

Probably best we leave it there isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

I won't teach the next generation to respect things I don't.

I don't respect the census, clearly...

I also don't have any kids, so don't worry

And this is why society is such a mess. You don’t get to choose which laws to respect. Very selfish.

Yeah. Society is a mess because of people like me.

People who go out of their way to make others feel good.

People who go above and beyond to make others feel accepted and loved.

People who do charity work.

People who raise awareness and fight for causes that don't only effect them but others too.

People who are kind.

People who are actively trying to better the world in their own way

People who don't fill out a form.

Yeah...it's people like me!

Please don't presume to know me from a single piece of information.

Thankfully I'm pretty secure in who I am aswell as the fact I'm a fucking good person who does more than most to better our society. Someone less secure might've been pretty hurt by that comment.

Dramatic. Didn’t say any of the above. I simply said it was a selfish attitude to decide what laws to respect.

I read what you said.

You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm entitled to think it's bullshit.

It’s called debate.

Respectfully, it ceases to be debate when name calling starts.

In my opinion.

No names were called? I simply said it’s very selfish to only follow laws that suit you?

So you called me selfish...

You also said I was the part of the problem with society.

Or at least that's how it read.

Attitude/behaviour is selfish and attitude can be changed if one is willing so not an insult about the person.

'You are selfish cow'! - name calling.

'Your behaviour is selfish' is a bit different to me. "

"Selfish" is all that was actually said originally.

I'm not sure what difference it makes tbh, either way they're calling me selfish. Which I take offence to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me."

Out of interest which ones?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

The health ones particularly... and the work ones. Also they wanted to know all my qualifications for some reason.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

I've been very surprised the way this thread has meandered around. I know every one has their own stuff... But it's not a surprise we struggle as a nation with some complicated things when some are so exercised by a very simple 10 minute form filling that will help many future plans and services and policies and educational studies and that we and most other nations have been performing for centuries. I'm not sure it could have been made much easier for people.

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By *edheadjMan over a year ago

High Wycombe

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

The health ones particularly... and the work ones. Also they wanted to know all my qualifications for some reason."

They only ask for your level of education, not the specific courses you have taken

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

The health ones particularly... and the work ones. Also they wanted to know all my qualifications for some reason.

They only ask for your level of education, not the specific courses you have taken "

Yes but why is it relevant whether I have a degree, 5 GCSEs or nothing?

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By *fweonlymeettwiceMan over a year ago

Madrid

They already have the more important information about us on a data base, I did feel that some of the questions were unnecessary and invasive, just my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My (polite) observations are as follows ...

I think none of us are truly qualified to comment authoritatively unless we have experience running a country. Anyone on here in that position? No? I didn't think so. I'd hazard a guess that information is needed in order to be able to plan. If it's made optional then uptake will be poor and then we'll all be bitching years down the line when there's been poor planning of the various vital services we rely upon. So, how do you compel people to complete a questionnaire given apathy is the enemy? Well, telling your mum when you don't complete your census probably isn't going to cut it. Hitting people in the wallet/purse usually focusses their minds though.

Just saying ...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"We understand why it exists, but some of the questions are really unnecessary."

I imagine the "unnecessary" questions are the optional ones which you can choose not to answer. The basic, compulsory questions are about who you are and where you live and that's it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Shouldn't we all be discussing a different kind of "filling in"?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

The health ones particularly... and the work ones. Also they wanted to know all my qualifications for some reason.

They only ask for your level of education, not the specific courses you have taken

Yes but why is it relevant whether I have a degree, 5 GCSEs or nothing?"

Because they want to know if there is correlation between level of education and health issues and suchlike. Also knowing that a certain area seems to have people with fewer/no qualifications might target it for more financial support for lifelong education etc.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered? "

When homosexuality was still illegal in the previous generations lifetime I would think they would understand why you can't respect every single law.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Also the health ones were very general, did not ask about specific conditions, just "do you consider yourself to have a long term health condition" etc. I couldn't decide if my disability meant I had poor or fair health. I think I picked fair...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

The health ones particularly... and the work ones. Also they wanted to know all my qualifications for some reason.

They only ask for your level of education, not the specific courses you have taken

Yes but why is it relevant whether I have a degree, 5 GCSEs or nothing?

Ah OK, that actually does make sense now. Thank you!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My (polite) observations are as follows ...

Just saying ..."

I'm pretty sure most if not all all of the people in government are not adequately qualified to make decisions either to be fair

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I filled it out... resentfully...

Really couldn't believe the amount of personal information they wanted though. Some of the questions felt quite invasive to me.

Out of interest which ones?

The health ones particularly... and the work ones. Also they wanted to know all my qualifications for some reason.

They only ask for your level of education, not the specific courses you have taken

Yes but why is it relevant whether I have a degree, 5 GCSEs or nothing?

Ah OK, that actually does make sense now. Thank you!"

I think there is method in the madness, as they say!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *heekyFlirtyCoupleCouple over a year ago

Stockport

"I completed ours a couple of weeks ago.

I also put that I'm bisexual for the first time ever.

Mrs"

Lol me too

Mrs!

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By *affron40Woman over a year ago

manchester

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

When homosexuality was still illegal in the previous generations lifetime I would think they would understand why you can't respect every single law. "

Yes totally! And women’s right to equality.. there’s a long way to go but times have progressed. The law always lags behind.

As a generalisation though I believe people picking and choosing what law to follow is dangerous, especially when it’s something so minor that infringes nothing and actually serves to benefit community. I’m trying to think of something current that’s contentious.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My (polite) observations are as follows ...

Just saying ...

I'm pretty sure most if not all all of the people in government are not adequately qualified to make decisions either to be fair

Haha. Yes, government and organisation are two words that generally don't go together in the same sentence. A better expression to describe how they handle things is probably: like a couple of monkeys trying to make love to a beach all!

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Oh dear

The only reason most of us fill it out is because we are threatened with a fine.

It really doesn't go deeper than that.

If there was no threat - I wouldn't fill it out.

Exactly this!

Really don't understand why some of you are SO offended by people not bothering.

The census is a long standing law that benefits the community. ‘Not bothering’ isn’t really a response. How do we teach the next generation to respect the law when adults aren’t bothered?

When homosexuality was still illegal in the previous generations lifetime I would think they would understand why you can't respect every single law.

Yes totally! And women’s right to equality.. there’s a long way to go but times have progressed. The law always lags behind.

Our current abortion laws are still in the dark ages but that's a whole can of worms not worth opening by going properly into here

. Though if you want an example of outdated and not fit for purpose laws, it's a good place to start.

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Once upon a time, in the pre internet era, someone knocked at your door and asked you the census questions. There was no avoiding that. Census data is really important in getting an overall view of the population now and predictions of the population in 5, 10 years etc and this is used to plan education, health and other key provision and budgets. Yes, people are registered with the NHS but actually that data is not available to the planners. It's available on a need-to-know basis by healthcare workers who care for you. The Dept for Health does not go trawling your NHS records. Things like screening campaigns will rely on census data to know how many people will require screening at different points in time.

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The whole post is the perfect summation of why it's important to complete the census.

I personally don't understand the nay sayers stance - the census provides valuable information to various central and local government departments to help in planning local services which we *all* use - withholding that information is at best not very community minded in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Filled mine in, hardly any info on it really, Amazon knows more about me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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The whole post is the perfect summation of why it's important to complete the census.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I completed ours a couple of weeks ago.

I also put that I'm bisexual for the first time ever.

Mrs

Lol me too

Mrs! "

They didn't have fab straight on there

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By *offiaCoolWoman over a year ago

Kidsgrove

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The whole post is the perfect summation of why it's important to complete the census.

Which is similar to my comment right at the beginning

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The best option is to ignore. They have no proof of postage. It was not addressed to you either. They cannot fine you has you have not broken the law. They say "By Law" you have to complete or you could get a £1000 fine. Again it's all scare mongering. Their "law" is contract law and it does not apply to we "the people" it only applies when you concent and contract with them. We stand under common law which is no "harm loss or damage" Any further correspondence in relation to the census e.g. (fines) needs rebutting using the 4 questions........1.please provide the ferified claim to which I (first name) have caused loss, harm or damage to my fellow man/women. 2.. please provide the obligation (contract) with a wet signature from i (first name) to prove I am in contract with your service corporation. 3...please provide details of who in your service corporation claims i property. 4.... please provide details of who in your service corporation can administrate property without right. THE GORVENMENT ARE A SERVICE CORPORATION AND CAN ONLY CONTRACT WITH YOU. THEY CANNOT ENFORCE CONTRACT LAW UNLESS YOU CONCENT.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The best option is to ignore. They have no proof of postage. It was not addressed to you either. They cannot fine you has you have not broken the law. They say "By Law" you have to complete or you could get a £1000 fine. Again it's all scare mongering. Their "law" is contract law and it does not apply to we "the people" it only applies when you concent and contract with them. We stand under common law which is no "harm loss or damage" Any further correspondence in relation to the census e.g. (fines) needs rebutting using the 4 questions........1.please provide the ferified claim to which I (first name) have caused loss, harm or damage to my fellow man/women. 2.. please provide the obligation (contract) with a wet signature from i (first name) to prove I am in contract with your service corporation. 3...please provide details of who in your service corporation claims i property. 4.... please provide details of who in your service corporation can administrate property without right. THE GORVENMENT ARE A SERVICE CORPORATION AND CAN ONLY CONTRACT WITH YOU. THEY CANNOT ENFORCE CONTRACT LAW UNLESS YOU CONCENT."

That sounds like a load of made up nonsense

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

That sounds like a load of made up nonsense "

It's a load of old common law/freemen of the land/Magna Carta/conspiracy theory BS. My mother lost her house through repossession because she spouted this shite in court... Absolute codswallop, the lot of it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That sounds like a load of made up nonsense "

Sounds like the Magna Carta stuff the covid deniers believe.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman over a year ago

South

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff. "

It’s mad isn’t it as this is the info they use to plan schools, disability services, retirement accommodation, housing ....... not filling it in is so self defeating

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff. "

Hardly basic stuff, asking about how much u earn, employment history, any medical conditions etc! My medical records are between me and a doc not some stranger in government. Every question on it gave multiple other options that would make you contradict yourself and would question the validity of the original answer! Very very intrusive form tbh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

Every single business an organisation does a stock take so it makes sense that governments do the same. "

We are not property of the state!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff.

They asked "do you have a health condition that lasts more than 12 months?" and "rate your health - good, fair, poor etc"

It was incredibly superficial. I spent a long time debating if my health was fair or poor and plumped for fair.

There's zero questions about specific medical conditions and knowing about general health and general education background can provide useful information for planning local health, education, social security and other budgets.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All that said, people can indeed whatever they want, £1000 fine or otherwise (which, by the way, is part of the 1921 Census Act, so again, not exactly new news)."

At last a clear post outlining why we have a census..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Rude. No need for it

I'm rude because I asked a question?

Nice!

I was the way you asked it.

Wokeism at its finest

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My (polite) observations are as follows ...

Just saying ..."

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"I only answered basic stuff. Left out the rest, none of their business

I don't understand this attitude to be honest as all the questions were basic stuff.

Not sure what form you filled in but mine didn't ask about earnings or *specific* medical history or employment history just employment status at a very high level (i.e. am I employed, self-employed etc)

Hardly "intrusive" and all valid information to allow decisions to be made about both central and local government plans for communities.

I still have yet to see a valid reason not to complete it - provides information to allow communities to develop and infrastructure to be put in place, provides in the future a very good social history picture and more besides.

There is nothing in the questions that is specific enough to give me cause for concern about my privacy.

Makes me laugh though that "privacy" seems to be the prime reason given by the nay sayers and yet they'll happily sign up to Google, Facebook, Twitter and more all of which have access to very specific personal information that goes way beyond that asked in the census, which is an established record that has been taken for 200 years

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

That sounds like a load of made up nonsense

Or you could just take 10 minutes and complete the form once every 10 years?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing done the last time for me.

I refused to fill it out so they sent someone out to ask why they got told the same thing.

No fine and I still wont fill the next one out.

Why?

It never ceases to amaze me how hard some people find it to do what is asked of them....and yet share God knows what on a public sex site.

Why would you fill it out? Other than the £1000 fine?

It forms part of our social history. It helps with developing local policies, funding for different parts of society etc.

Doing something without questioning it is ignorance. I'm pretty sure the welfare state was introduced to combat ignorance (one of the big 5).

Its not without question though because the reason why we have census is reasonably and necessary.

Census's are not a new thing and almost every country in the world has a Census in one form or another.

I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose, I'm saying its purpose isn't legitimate enough to impose fines on people for not completing it.

So you only follow the laws for which you believe there is a legitimate purpose?

Yes. Don't you?

I think most people follow all laws of the land. "
really? The naivety is strong in this one!

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