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Any kitchen designers/fitters or really knowledgeable kitchen folk about?
I have a space in my kitchen, it’s a cupboard carcass no door, no shelf etc just an empty void which has become a dumping ground since I moved in
I’d like to put some drawers in there, I just need the drawer boxes and runners, however this is proving harder than I imagined.
I have been to Homebase B&Q, looked on many websites Amazon eBay even asked on Facebook for advice/help etc all to no avail
The sizes of the cupboard are:
500mm wide
480mm deep
710mm tall
I did see in B&Q a soft close deep drawer box in the good home range for £30 alas only comes in 600mm, I spoke to a B&Q kitchen lady in depth about the drawers they stock, she couldn’t suggest any that would fit.
An internal drawer would be perfect, doesn’t have to have a cupboard door, happy to have “open drawers” so to speak
A friend did suggest buying say 600mm and cutting the drawer box down, alas this is way beyond my skill set and patience!
Any suggestions greatly received,
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By *ermite12ukMan
over a year ago
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Do you know of any neighbours that are into DIY? May be worth asking them around? Say you'll buy the wood and offer them some money for their time and carpentry skills.
Wouldn't think it would take them that long tbh.
(So resisting the urge to say that I would like to rummage around in your drawers. ) |
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over a year ago
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IKEA are very good for sourcing individual kitchen parts like those.
I’m not saying they’ll definitely have what you’re looking for but there’s a strong chance. |
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"Do you know of any neighbours that are into DIY? May be worth asking them around? Say you'll buy the wood and offer them some money for their time and carpentry skills.
Wouldn't think it would take them that long tbh.
(So resisting the urge to say that I would like to rummage around in your drawers.)"
I live down south, we don’t talk to neighbors! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"IKEA are very good for sourcing individual kitchen parts like those.
I’m not saying they’ll definitely have what you’re looking for but there’s a strong chance."
The size of the cupboard is old size now - IKEA only do 40/60/80 cupboard widths. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Any kitchen designers/fitters or really knowledgeable kitchen folk about?
I have a space in my kitchen, it’s a cupboard carcass no door, no shelf etc just an empty void which has become a dumping ground since I moved in
I’d like to put some drawers in there, I just need the drawer boxes and runners, however this is proving harder than I imagined.
I have been to Homebase B&Q, looked on many websites Amazon eBay even asked on Facebook for advice/help etc all to no avail
The sizes of the cupboard are:
500mm wide
480mm deep
710mm tall
I did see in B&Q a soft close deep drawer box in the good home range for £30 alas only comes in 600mm, I spoke to a B&Q kitchen lady in depth about the drawers they stock, she couldn’t suggest any that would fit.
An internal drawer would be perfect, doesn’t have to have a cupboard door, happy to have “open drawers” so to speak
A friend did suggest buying say 600mm and cutting the drawer box down, alas this is way beyond my skill set and patience!
Any suggestions greatly received,
"
You will find difficult to source if not made to order and that could be expensive.
If you can’t find anything how about buying some cupboard shelves and cutting depth down. You buy little hooks that push into holes that may already be in the cupboard to support them.
Then buy some baskets to put inside - you can buy in many sizes and colours. |
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"Any kitchen designers/fitters or really knowledgeable kitchen folk about?
I have a space in my kitchen, it’s a cupboard carcass no door, no shelf etc just an empty void which has become a dumping ground since I moved in
I’d like to put some drawers in there, I just need the drawer boxes and runners, however this is proving harder than I imagined.
I have been to Homebase B&Q, looked on many websites Amazon eBay even asked on Facebook for advice/help etc all to no avail
The sizes of the cupboard are:
500mm wide
480mm deep
710mm tall
I did see in B&Q a soft close deep drawer box in the good home range for £30 alas only comes in 600mm, I spoke to a B&Q kitchen lady in depth about the drawers they stock, she couldn’t suggest any that would fit.
An internal drawer would be perfect, doesn’t have to have a cupboard door, happy to have “open drawers” so to speak
A friend did suggest buying say 600mm and cutting the drawer box down, alas this is way beyond my skill set and patience!
Any suggestions greatly received,
You will find difficult to source if not made to order and that could be expensive.
If you can’t find anything how about buying some cupboard shelves and cutting depth down. You buy little hooks that push into holes that may already be in the cupboard to support them.
Then buy some baskets to put inside - you can buy in many sizes and colours."
I have baskets on the bathroom... good idea though x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Any kitchen designers/fitters or really knowledgeable kitchen folk about?
I have a space in my kitchen, it’s a cupboard carcass no door, no shelf etc just an empty void which has become a dumping ground since I moved in
I’d like to put some drawers in there, I just need the drawer boxes and runners, however this is proving harder than I imagined.
I have been to Homebase B&Q, looked on many websites Amazon eBay even asked on Facebook for advice/help etc all to no avail
The sizes of the cupboard are:
500mm wide
480mm deep
710mm tall
I did see in B&Q a soft close deep drawer box in the good home range for £30 alas only comes in 600mm, I spoke to a B&Q kitchen lady in depth about the drawers they stock, she couldn’t suggest any that would fit.
An internal drawer would be perfect, doesn’t have to have a cupboard door, happy to have “open drawers” so to speak
A friend did suggest buying say 600mm and cutting the drawer box down, alas this is way beyond my skill set and patience!
Any suggestions greatly received,
"
Shame you are down south . I’m a chippy by trade .
Sounds like you will need to buy runners from , ironmongary direct , screwfix , anywhere like that . If you are a dab hand with a cordless and saw I suggest making drawers out of ply or mdf.
You can then buy the drawer fronts from wherever sells your style of kitchen then face the new drawers . |
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over a year ago
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"You can buy them there named
drawer carcass
Well I’d be blown! Never knew that what is the difference between that and a drawer box?
And know anyone that’s sells 500mm  "
B&q etc will sell drawer packs . Just make sure the depth will fit into what you have . |
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"You can buy them there named
drawer carcass
Well I’d be blown! Never knew that what is the difference between that and a drawer box?
And know anyone that’s sells 500mm "
yes but theres 2 ways to do it
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263523471689?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=263523471689&targetid=1140014332782&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046328&poi=&campaignid=12126077997&mkgroupid=116380011786&rlsatarget=pla-1140014332782&abcId=9300480&merchantid=119105905&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlJa1qarB7wIVBpftCh2MYAgSEAQYBCABEgKt2_D_BwE
or buy the drawer runners and buy a square of wood for the middle and rear back plate
https://www.screwfix.com/p/drawer-system-450mm-2-pack/16338
I get loads of them from fitting kitchens
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This is why I hate DIY you know what you want, everything is the wrong size then when you do find what you are after you need a engineering degree to install it and it is double/triple the price you thought it would be
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By *igmaMan
over a year ago
Yorkshire |
Probably cheaper to buy a new cheap 500 carcass with everything included. Draws & runners plus fronts. Buying them bit buy bit might get bummed on price. I’m guessing you want draw fronts to match existing kitchen? So depends on style and finding a match or if they’re still in production. Manufactures upgrade there lines and discontinue constantly. |
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By *hugwelMan
over a year ago
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"Any kitchen designers/fitters or really knowledgeable kitchen folk about?
I have a space in my kitchen, it’s a cupboard carcass no door, no shelf etc just an empty void which has become a dumping ground since I moved in
I’d like to put some drawers in there, I just need the drawer boxes and runners, however this is proving harder than I imagined.
I have been to Homebase B&Q, looked on many websites Amazon eBay even asked on Facebook for advice/help etc all to no avail
The sizes of the cupboard are:
500mm wide
480mm deep
710mm tall
I did see in B&Q a soft close deep drawer box in the good home range for £30 alas only comes in 600mm, I spoke to a B&Q kitchen lady in depth about the drawers they stock, she couldn’t suggest any that would fit.
An internal drawer would be perfect, doesn’t have to have a cupboard door, happy to have “open drawers” so to speak
A friend did suggest buying say 600mm and cutting the drawer box down, alas this is way beyond my skill set and patience!
Any suggestions greatly received,
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hi I design kitchen, the height is od 721 in the average height, 560 and 570 normal cabinet depth fir working drawers Europeans do 460 deep and working drawers PM me |
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"Probably cheaper to buy a new cheap 500 carcass with everything included. Draws & runners plus fronts. Buying them bit buy bit might get bummed on price. I’m guessing you want draw fronts to match existing kitchen? So depends on style and finding a match or if they’re still in production. Manufactures upgrade there lines and discontinue constantly."
I don’t care if the match or not, am in a council flat so doubt will find matching anyways
As for buying a whole unit, that involves taking out the existing which is beyond my skill set
Just wanted a quick cheap fix! |
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"Probably cheaper to buy a new cheap 500 carcass with everything included. Draws & runners plus fronts. Buying them bit buy bit might get bummed on price. I’m guessing you want draw fronts to match existing kitchen? So depends on style and finding a match or if they’re still in production. Manufactures upgrade there lines and discontinue constantly.
I don’t care if the match or not, am in a council flat so doubt will find matching anyways
As for buying a whole unit, that involves taking out the existing which is beyond my skill set
Just wanted a quick cheap fix!"
actually its not out of your skill set
unscrew the top from the unit and unscrew fromt he wall
sometimes you need to support the worktop so move it to the side
the new ones are plastic screw up feet
push to the back of the wall
so its lay on floor screw the 4 legs up until the unit is level with the worktop
then put 2 1" or 1 1/4" screws in through the units base top wood and thats it.
jobs done for a lady and easy enough |
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By *igmaMan
over a year ago
Yorkshire |
"Probably cheaper to buy a new cheap 500 carcass with everything included. Draws & runners plus fronts. Buying them bit buy bit might get bummed on price. I’m guessing you want draw fronts to match existing kitchen? So depends on style and finding a match or if they’re still in production. Manufactures upgrade there lines and discontinue constantly.
I don’t care if the match or not, am in a council flat so doubt will find matching anyways
As for buying a whole unit, that involves taking out the existing which is beyond my skill set
Just wanted a quick cheap fix!"
Cheap fix would be new door and shelf.
If your worried about skill level. I’d say swapping a unit would be a lot easier than setting out draw runners etc... for a novice but hey ho.
Good luck  |
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"What about putting a door on the carcass and shelves in the cupboard? Or is it only drawers you want? "
Ideally drawers as it’s right by the door and not w lot of room for a door to open
Alas I want to stash my junk drawer stuff in there currently in a box still from when I moved back in October!
I came from a kitchen with 6 drawers to one with two! |
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"Probably cheaper to buy a new cheap 500 carcass with everything included. Draws & runners plus fronts. Buying them bit buy bit might get bummed on price. I’m guessing you want draw fronts to match existing kitchen? So depends on style and finding a match or if they’re still in production. Manufactures upgrade there lines and discontinue constantly.
I don’t care if the match or not, am in a council flat so doubt will find matching anyways
As for buying a whole unit, that involves taking out the existing which is beyond my skill set
Just wanted a quick cheap fix!
actually its not out of your skill set
unscrew the top from the unit and unscrew fromt he wall
sometimes you need to support the worktop so move it to the side
the new ones are plastic screw up feet
push to the back of the wall
so its lay on floor screw the 4 legs up until the unit is level with the worktop
then put 2 1" or 1 1/4" screws in through the units base top wood and thats it.
jobs done for a lady and easy enough "
We are talking council workmanship here a lot of mastic and god knows what else |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What about putting a door on the carcass and shelves in the cupboard? Or is it only drawers you want?
Ideally drawers as it’s right by the door and not w lot of room for a door to open
Alas I want to stash my junk drawer stuff in there currently in a box still from when I moved back in October!
I came from a kitchen with 6 drawers to one with two! "
Oh gosh I bet that’s hard then with just two! I can see why you want more... I seriously think the easiest way would be like someone else said buy a new carcass. Unless you want to build the drawers yourself and put the runners in ... I think it would be easier just to buy the unit take the old out and replace it |
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How much are new kitchens? may as well get a new kitchen at this rate!
3 under counter cupboards, not including the void, 2 drawers and 2 over head cupboards cant be that much can it?
Off to ikeas kitchen designer I go |
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"We are talking council workmanship here a lot of mastic and god knows what else "
Snigger its just as bad when your working in a private house if not worse.
Private houses tend to be really picky and want a pro job for peanuts
best way to find out how old your units are take off the bottem plinth under the unit.
it wont be that old where they used to have the bases to the floor
what you will find is plastic legs underneath the base of the unit.
they should be 2 screws at back of the unit and screws at the front going up into the worktop
Just to make it really clear here I would let you do it whilst I helped you.
But the thought of you stood over me whilst in a skirt is such a temptation  whilst im laid on the floor screwing the legs up |
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over a year ago
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A 500mm kitchen drawer set is available at Toolstation for about £43.
The brand name is Hafele.
They should be easy to source from most other building suppliers too. |
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"A 500mm kitchen drawer set is available at Toolstation for about £43.
The brand name is Hafele.
They should be easy to source from most other building suppliers too. "
Thank you, Iam heading over there now... to the website of course not physically |
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"A 500mm kitchen drawer set is available at Toolstation for about £43.
The brand name is Hafele.
They should be easy to source from most other building suppliers too.
Thank you, Iam heading over there now... to the website of course not physically "
becareful make sure its not just for one drawer price as i think that is what it means |
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By *igmaMan
over a year ago
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"A 500mm kitchen drawer set is available at Toolstation for about £43.
The brand name is Hafele.
They should be easy to source from most other building suppliers too. "
It’s one draw. £43 each! Plus the descriptions vague. Don’t know if runners come with it. It’s the first thing I saw when I looked earlier. If you you want to fill the space and buy 4 (don’t know if there’s a deep draw option for 3) your looking at nearly £200 without the cost of fronts.
Cheapest 3 draw carcass I saw when having a little look earlier on was £90 with everything in.
As explained earlier |
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I had a similar issue and ended up having to get the next size down and pack the sides out with timber, didn’t matter as the drawer front covers it when closed but still wasn’t ideal and ended up costing around £50 for one.
As others have said you are probably better off getting a whole new carcass with drawers.
Drawers are a bugger to fit at the best of times, might be a lot more simpler and cheaper just to install some shelves as bases and get some wooden boxes that can be painted or even baskets and plonk them on the bases if you’re not worried about them being hidden behind a door.
Good luck! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's laughable how much competition there is on this thread among men vying to give this woman the best advice.
If it weren't for lockdown op I'm sure you'd have a queue outside your house a mile long! |
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By *igmaMan
over a year ago
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"It's laughable how much competition there is on this thread among men vying to give this woman the best advice.
If it weren't for lockdown op I'm sure you'd have a queue outside your house a mile long!"
You’re more local, why don’t you pop round? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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On EBay they have a variety of metal pull out drawers to fit in units complete with the runners - you could buy these and then put an ordinary cupboard door on the front so all hidden away.
Nothing involving putting drawers in the unit will be a cheap fix though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When did 500mm become an odd size? do people think we all live in large homes with kitchens the size of a football pitch?
Sigh going to give up and live with a junk void "
Not an odd size but many kitchen companies only make 20/40/60/80cm wide units now. |
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"Any kitchen designers/fitters or really knowledgeable kitchen folk about?
I have a space in my kitchen, it’s a cupboard carcass no door, no shelf etc just an empty void which has become a dumping ground since I moved in
I’d like to put some drawers in there, I just need the drawer boxes and runners, however this is proving harder than I imagined.
I have been to Homebase B&Q, looked on many websites Amazon eBay even asked on Facebook for advice/help etc all to no avail
The sizes of the cupboard are:
500mm wide
480mm deep
710mm tall
I did see in B&Q a soft close deep drawer box in the good home range for £30 alas only comes in 600mm, I spoke to a B&Q kitchen lady in depth about the drawers they stock, she couldn’t suggest any that would fit.
An internal drawer would be perfect, doesn’t have to have a cupboard door, happy to have “open drawers” so to speak
A friend did suggest buying say 600mm and cutting the drawer box down, alas this is way beyond my skill set and patience!
Any suggestions greatly received,
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Go to Howdens. I work in social housing and that's where our carpenters get the kitchen units etc from. |
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Buy a complete cupboard with drawers that you like that is smaller than the space.
Use the vertical gap left down the side for longer items.
Sorted
(I'm pretty smart when it comes to this sort of thing) |
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Ask a local carpenter or kitchen fitter to come round and look at it for you. Task them to come up with a solutions and quotes... They won't charge for this and then you'll have options and ideas...... If you don't like the quotes, you don't have to go with them and you might be able to implement one of their solutions yourself.....
It's a bit cheeky, but it happens to us all the time and we get over it lol |
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The cheapest option if you was to build it yourself.
are these
https://www.screwfix.com/p/drawer-system-450mm-2-pack/16338
https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-White-Furniture-Panel---15mm-x-450mm-x-2400mm/p/110086?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplp110086&sc_intid=110086&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqaaSovDD7wIVmOvtCh1MpgzaEAQYByABEgJQ8PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IT-Kitchens-Santini-Gloss-White-Slab-Drawer-front-W-500mm-Set-of-3/383787140274?hash=item595b7f04b2:g:pqwAAOSw7Ytfm-uT
a box of 100 1/2" screws for everything
and a wood saw at 7.00
videos to aid you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b0R18QZnY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERRkVG9ivEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AWfTvqx7T4
to note here you have a 90 and 45 degree angles on your wood saw thats close enough but you can measure off the unit instead on both sides |
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drawerboxes.co.uk,
follow the measuring guide on the website. £31.60 ea for the boxes and runners. Come with fitting instructions. Homebase or B&Q can cut the fronts to size on order, and you'll just need to paint and fit them.
PM me for further details if you have questions or need more help.
A good carpenter will cost more, but you'll have a better product in the end.....
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"drawerboxes.co.uk,
follow the measuring guide on the website. £31.60 ea for the boxes and runners. Come with fitting instructions. Homebase or B&Q can cut the fronts to size on order, and you'll just need to paint and fit them.
PM me for further details if you have questions or need more help.
A good carpenter will cost more, but you'll have a better product in the end.....
E
Xx"
at the cost of 3 drawers or 4 id rather buy a new unit instead |
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"drawerboxes.co.uk,
follow the measuring guide on the website. £31.60 ea for the boxes and runners. Come with fitting instructions. Homebase or B&Q can cut the fronts to size on order, and you'll just need to paint and fit them.
PM me for further details if you have questions or need more help.
A good carpenter will cost more, but you'll have a better product in the end.....
E
Xx
at the cost of 3 drawers or 4 id rather buy a new unit instead"
Agreed, it would be best and cheapest!... but she's explained she doesn't want to do that herself.... you can also get used kitchen units really cheap.... but she'd still need to paint it or have it painted and pay a fitter or handyman to install it..... |
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