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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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BoJo is defending inviting Murdoch to the Olympics. Is he using the Games to line himself up as Cameron's replacement? When will be launch his coup (or is putsch a better word for BoJo)? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Sorry - I have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about  "
Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, seems to be getting Murdoch on side to have the press support him if/when he tries to take over the Conservative leadership from Cameron. So far he has been saying that he won't be doing that as he is committed to London and seeing through his term of office.
It's silly thread Friday... this was as silly as any other. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I guess you would all like to see a clown in charge of the country , i saw a post about benefits being cut back on here, if you think its bad now, wait till you have that clown in charge, just cos he makes a fool of himself in public, dosent mean hes in touch with the ordinary guy in the street, my advice is be careful what you wish for, you might just get it lol |
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OMG It's bad enough him being the boss of Little old London, he still manages to get on the news way too much for stuff that doesn't affect the rest of the country.
He's unforgettable I'll give you that looking like a scruffy old tramp at Beijing, hopefully when he's wafting the flag at the closing cereomony this time he'll fasten his jacket and try to comb his hair.
As for being PM, well while I agree it would be hard to do worse than Cameron, It would be like choosing between death by drowning or suffocation choosing between these two buffoons.
Now I'll breathe and get back to the normal pleasures of this site... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have to admit that Boris is in the vein of Michael Heseltine and Ken Clark.....fabulous leaders who the Tories will never let have a sniff of the top job..... After Magie the tories arent going to let anyone with a bit of nouse get anywhere near the leadership....... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"BoJo is defending inviting Murdoch to the Olympics. Is he using the Games to line himself up as Cameron's replacement? When will be launch his coup (or is putsch a better word for BoJo)?"
He can line up what ever he likes but the consensus of public opinion is that he is a buffoon and not many people would put 4years or more of their future in his hands so would vote for another party. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"BoJo is defending inviting Murdoch to the Olympics. Is he using the Games to line himself up as Cameron's replacement? When will be launch his coup (or is putsch a better word for BoJo)?
He can line up what ever he likes but the consensus of public opinion is that he is a buffoon and not many people would put 4years or more of their future in his hands so would vote for another party. "
agree, same as i would hessetine or clarke lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"BoJo is defending inviting Murdoch to the Olympics. Is he using the Games to line himself up as Cameron's replacement? When will be launch his coup (or is putsch a better word for BoJo)?
He can line up what ever he likes but the consensus of public opinion is that he is a buffoon and not many people would put 4years or more of their future in his hands so would vote for another party.
agree, same as i would hessetine or clarke lol "
It happened with Neil Kinnock even though he had some talents the general public envisaged him as a ginger fool and didn't vote for him. |
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP "
he's 'in bed' with murdoch, look on the GLA website or BBC London about his dealings with those feckers in NI..
he was casting dispersions at the start of the phone tapping enquiry that it was 'codswallop'..
as the guy at the 'helm' of the force investigating such, he should have stayed schtumm..
and there are loads more of his feck ups in the public arena... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Boris Johnson as PM of this country.........may as well give the job to Jordan at leasr she has big therpnenny bits....ooops so does BoBo (his university nick name) |
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP "
He's extremely electable to us Brits but would he been tough on the world stage? I think he thinks he will, but it won't be easy if everyone else sees him as some sort cavalier-type buffoon as they'll just ignore him. I like the guy. |
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP
He's extremely electable to us Brits but would he been tough on the world stage? I think he thinks he will, but it won't be easy if everyone else sees him as some sort cavalier-type buffoon as they'll just ignore him. I like the guy. "
Some Brits! Not all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP
He's extremely electable to us Brits but would he been tough on the world stage? I think he thinks he will, but it won't be easy if everyone else sees him as some sort cavalier-type buffoon as they'll just ignore him. I like the guy.
Some Brits! Not all."
Ok, some then.  |
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"OMG As for being PM, well while I agree it would be hard to do worse than Cameron, It would be like choosing between death by drowning or suffocation choosing between these two buffoons.
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The country's at death's door as it is, without allowing another Bullingdon toff to ensure that the very wealthy get even richer, as the rest of us get bled dry and worked into the ground. Can't stand that 'man'. |
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP "
..they probably said the same about hitler in the 1930s...ah dis adolf ..an artist..cares about his country...good plans for the economy.. road building...etc..and. then........  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OMG As for being PM, well while I agree it would be hard to do worse than Cameron, It would be like choosing between death by drowning or suffocation choosing between these two buffoons.
The country's at death's door as it is, without allowing another Bullingdon toff to ensure that the very wealthy get even richer, as the rest of us get bled dry and worked into the ground. Can't stand that 'man'. "
Careful, you're jealousy is showing. I bet you wouldn't have given up all your cash had you been borne into a rich family. Only the have-nots moan about their lot but they'd gladly take from the haves and reverse the sitruation. It's envy, pure and simple. |
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP ..they probably said the same about hitler in the 1930s...ah dis adolf ..an artist..cares about his country...good plans for the economy.. road building...etc..and. then........ "
I agree he is a Murdoch manufactured puppett who loves himself. Old Etonian and Cambridge or Oxford ( I do not know which one but I would hazzard a guess is was not East Anglia Poly) His father loves this country .........he lives in the Cayman Islands! Another mogadon pill for the masses! |
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By *aldybiMan
over a year ago
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It happened with Neil Kinnock even though he had some talents the general public envisaged him as a ginger fool and didn't vote for him. "
True enough - I'm no Labour supporter, but I recognise an orator when I hear one. Kinnock is a fine writer and deliverer of speeches. I reckon he had real potential as a PM too, but Maggie was busy having her finest hour; he hadn't a hope. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP ..they probably said the same about hitler in the 1930s...ah dis adolf ..an artist..cares about his country...good plans for the economy.. road building...etc..and. then........ I agree he is a Murdoch manufactured puppett who loves himself. Old Etonian and Cambridge or Oxford ( I do not know which one but I would hazzard a guess is was not East Anglia Poly) His father loves this country .........he lives in the Cayman Islands! Another mogadon pill for the masses!"
BoJo was educated at Eton, then Oxford, and, along with David Cameron and George Osborne, he was a member of Oxford's Bullingdon Club, a student dining society known for destroying restaurant dining rooms and paying for the repairs afterwards.
He is 8th cousin to David Cameron and, through his paternal grandmother, he is a direct descendant of King George II and through George's great-great-great grandfather James I/VI, Johnson is a descendant of all of the previous British royal houses.
On his father's side, Johnson is a great-grandson of Ali Kemal Bey, a liberal Turkish journalist and the Interior Minister in the government of Damat Ferid Pasha, Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire, who was killed during the Turkish War of Independence. During World War I, Johnson's paternal grandfather and great-aunt were recognised as British subjects and took their grandmother's maiden name of Johnson. In reference to his cosmopolitan ancestry, Johnson has described himself as a "one-man melting pot" — with a combination of Muslims, Jews, and Christians comprising his great-grandparentage.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Got to love some people disliking someone else simply because they are rich ...or their father lives abroad ...or for whatever reason is beyond their control.
So what if half the Government front bench went Oxford or Cambridge and two of them went to Eton and have rich parents. The other half come from working class backgrounds, have been successful in business and created wealth.
And would any of the people in this Thread who are knocking Cameron and Osbourne 'et al' turn down the Lottery millions if they won it? No they wouldn't. Why? Because we all want money to make our lives easier. Its only natural. The difference is Cameron and Osbourne already have that wealth and people are jealous. Its the politics of envy as practiced by Eds Ballsup and Millifuckwit who point the finger at Cameron and yet they have followed similar educational paths but without the inherited wealth.
Double standards is never a nice thing to see. |
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Careful, you're jealousy is showing. I bet you wouldn't have given up all your cash had you been borne into a rich family. Only the have-nots moan about their lot but they'd gladly take from the haves and reverse the sitruation. It's envy, pure and simple."
You don't know me nor my family wealth, and I don't vote for personal motivation either. I've flown first class around the world in the flat seat beds, so not particularly financially needy. I vote for what I believe to be right for the local area - the MP we may have, and partly influenced by the prospective PM. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Got to love some people disliking someone else simply because they are rich ...or their father lives abroad ...or for whatever reason is beyond their control.
So what if half the Government front bench went Oxford or Cambridge and two of them went to Eton and have rich parents. The other half come from working class backgrounds, have been successful in business and created wealth.
And would any of the people in this Thread who are knocking Cameron and Osbourne 'et al' turn down the Lottery millions if they won it? No they wouldn't. Why? Because we all want money to make our lives easier. Its only natural. The difference is Cameron and Osbourne already have that wealth and people are jealous. Its the politics of envy as practiced by Eds Ballsup and Millifuckwit who point the finger at Cameron and yet they have followed similar educational paths but without the inherited wealth.
Double standards is never a nice thing to see."
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By (user no longer on site)
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Careful, you're jealousy is showing. I bet you wouldn't have given up all your cash had you been borne into a rich family. Only the have-nots moan about their lot but they'd gladly take from the haves and reverse the sitruation. It's envy, pure and simple.
You don't know me nor my family wealth, and I don't vote for personal motivation either. I've flown first class around the world in the flat seat beds, so not particularly financially needy. I vote for what I believe to be right for the local area - the MP we may have, and partly influenced by the prospective PM. "
So if you feel that strongly about the rich benefitting from being rich (now there's a paradox) why don't you give all your money away and stand for election on a "I hereby promise never to make a penny I don't need but help others to make loads of dosh themselves" ticket?  |
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Careful, you're jealousy is showing.
So if you feel that strongly about the rich benefitting from being rich (now there's a paradox) why don't you give all your money away and stand for election on a "I hereby promise never to make a penny I don't need but help others to make loads of dosh themselves" ticket? "
Nah, I travel too much, have to keep residency status at the right level. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP
He's extremely electable to us Brits but would he been tough on the world stage? I think he thinks he will, but it won't be easy if everyone else sees him as some sort cavalier-type buffoon as they'll just ignore him. I like the guy. "
Buffoon?
Never stopped George Bush becoming the most powerful man in the world!!!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP
He's extremely electable to us Brits but would he been tough on the world stage? I think he thinks he will, but it won't be easy if everyone else sees him as some sort cavalier-type buffoon as they'll just ignore him. I like the guy.
Buffoon?
Never stopped George Bush becoming the most powerful man in the world!!!
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An historical anomaly I think he'll be classified as in time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I rather see David Cameron stay in this government for a longer term he is doing a fantastic job plus cuts back on benefits are working and also working tax credits, once he does away with benefits altogether and housing benefits too he will get my vote he is the best pm we have ever had. |
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"I rather see David Cameron stay in this government for a longer term he is doing a fantastic job plus cuts back on benefits are working and also working tax credits, once he does away with benefits altogether and housing benefits too he will get my vote he is the best pm we have ever had. "
i never thought id say this being a lifelong labour supporter, who earns a very good living btw, and has never claimed anything in my life, but i agree with the post above, id do anything not to be out of work, but now it seems, people just accept it and claim as much as they can |
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"I rather see David Cameron stay in this government for a longer term he is doing a fantastic job plus cuts back on benefits are working and also working tax credits, once he does away with benefits altogether and housing benefits too he will get my vote he is the best pm we have ever had.
i never thought id say this being a lifelong labour supporter, who earns a very good living btw, and has never claimed anything in my life, but i agree with the post above, id do anything not to be out of work, but now it seems, people just accept it and claim as much as they can"
Um... I think he was taking the piss. He's from Leeds y'know. |
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"I rather see David Cameron stay in this government for a longer term he is doing a fantastic job plus cuts back on benefits are working and also working tax credits, once he does away with benefits altogether and housing benefits too he will get my vote he is the best pm we have ever had.
i never thought id say this being a lifelong labour supporter, who earns a very good living btw, and has never claimed anything in my life, but i agree with the post above, id do anything not to be out of work, but now it seems, people just accept it and claim as much as they can
Um... I think he was taking the piss. He's from Leeds y'know. "
i dont care if he is, i agree with what hes saying lol |
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"I would love him as Primeminister, an intellectual who loves and cares about this country. He is more in touch than Cameron and more trustworthy than any Labour MP
He's extremely electable to us Brits but would he been tough on the world stage? I think he thinks he will, but it won't be easy if everyone else sees him as some sort cavalier-type buffoon as they'll just ignore him. I like the guy.
Buffoon?
Never stopped George Bush becoming the most powerful man in the world!!!
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I think that proves the whole point! A complete idiot can become the US leader on the back of jingoistic warmongering narrow views............!! |
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"Got to love some people disliking someone else simply because they are rich ...or their father lives abroad ...or for whatever reason is beyond their control.
So what if half the Government front bench went Oxford or Cambridge and two of them went to Eton and have rich parents. The other half come from working class backgrounds, have been successful in business and created wealth.
And would any of the people in this Thread who are knocking Cameron and Osbourne 'et al' turn down the Lottery millions if they won it? No they wouldn't. Why? Because we all want money to make our lives easier. Its only natural. The difference is Cameron and Osbourne already have that wealth and people are jealous. Its the politics of envy as practiced by Eds Ballsup and Millifuckwit who point the finger at Cameron and yet they have followed similar educational paths but without the inherited wealth.
Double standards is never a nice thing to see."
Speaking personally 'jealousy' has nothing to do with it, its their dogmatic stance that 'all' public sector is bad and can only be improved by hiving off a percentage for the share holder at the expense of those that use the system..
by and large they do not use the system, its tokenism when they do so..
it was'nt the taxes of the rich and priveledged that built the system it was the taxes of all of our parents, grandparents who enabled us to have the NHS eg...
some public sector does benefit from private sector ideas and practises, be daft to say the best aspects of both should not be utilised to benefit the service users..
but not at the cost of cuts in staff to increase profit..
as for 'half the cabinet are 'working class', that is wrong by any stretch of the imagination..
if we are having a sensible debate refrain from total fiction please, it adds little to the discussion to say that... |
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"I rather see David Cameron stay in this government for a longer term he is doing a fantastic job plus cuts back on benefits are working and also working tax credits, once he does away with benefits altogether and housing benefits too he will get my vote he is the best pm we have ever had. "
What are you looking for, a workhouse slave culture?
The race to the bottom is not what I'd think of as an ideal culture to generate. |
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"I rather see David Cameron stay in this government for a longer term he is doing a fantastic job plus cuts back on benefits are working and also working tax credits, once he does away with benefits altogether and housing benefits too he will get my vote he is the best pm we have ever had.
What are you looking for, a workhouse slave culture?
The race to the bottom is not what I'd think of as an ideal culture to generate."
Sophie I am in agreement with you it seems some people are livig in 1912 and want to return to the "good old days" when we working class folk knew our place!! |
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By *eaboMan
over a year ago
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BO JO is a genius. He comes across as a bumbling loveable fool, but has in reality a razor sharp political mind and a good intelligence. He has been in politics for years, add to that the drive to get what he wants he is a stereotypical politician with a wizard of a public persona. Do iwant him running the country? No, his beliefs are far too tory, back to the early twentieth century anyone? |
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Speaking personally 'jealousy' has nothing to do with it, its their dogmatic stance that 'all' public sector is bad and can only be improved by hiving off a percentage for the share holder at the expense of those that use the system.."
I think its more 'too much' rather than 'all' as you say. Don't think we are seeing wholesale destruction of 'all' public sector services. Its just finally someone is making sure the public sector is delivering value for money.
" by and large they do not use the system, its tokenism when they do so.."
So if you could afford a BUPA Health policy you wouldn't use it? Whats wrong with someone who has the choice of what to use makes that choice? Its called personal freedom surely?
" it was'nt the taxes of the rich and priveledged that built the system it was the taxes of all of our parents, grandparents who enabled us to have the NHS eg..."
It was everybody's taxes, rich and not so rich, that paid, and still pays, for it surely?
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"as for 'half the cabinet are 'working class', that is wrong by any stretch of the imagination..
if we are having a sensible debate refrain from total fiction please, it adds little to the discussion to say that... "
Well lets see now.
23 members of the Official Government Front Bench. Cameron and Osbourne are from Inherited Wealthy families as is Lord Strathclyde.
My maths tells me that the 20 others are from Middle or Working class families ranging from a fish merchants son (Michael Gove) to Comprehensive schooled Yorkshire lass (Justine Greening) and lads (Eric Pickles and William Hague).
For info: http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/representatives/index.stm
So I think 'this lot' are as grounded and 'in touch' with us as anyone else could be in Government.
I like to think that when I make a statement it is actually fact based. I hope you will accept this? |
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