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Pan/ bi same thing isn’t it
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"No, pan includes all genders, not just m and f. " Only 2 genders, and no matter what someone identifies as, there is still only, straight, bi, gay to choose from, | |||
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"Your post clearly shows a lack of knowledge and understanding... considering you’re straight why would it concern you how others define themselves? Maybe have a read on the subject before you make such a flippant statement. " You can’t get away from it What is it now, 72 genders, but a person is still only straight, bi or gay | |||
"Pansexual is not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity. Bisexuality is defined as “experiencing sexual attraction to two or more genders” while pansexuality is “experiencing sexual attraction to people of all genders or regardless of gender.” In essence, bisexuality is where you can list the genders you find attractive (such as “I like men and women” or “I like women and non-binary people”) while pansexuals like people of all genders, or they may feel that gender is not a factor in their attraction. " | |||
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"In all honesty, it really doesn’t matter. What does matter is: we all learn to respect each individuals choices and simply live and let live. We are who we are, a bit of compassion is all that’s needed. Labels can make us lazy and prevent us from delving into the self-exploration needed to excavate our deep-rooted qualities. Cool " | |||
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"Your post clearly shows a lack of knowledge and understanding... considering you’re straight why would it concern you how others define themselves? " This. Op, it’s not the same. Bi means two doesn’t it? Pan sexual explains that gender doesn’t define if they will like you or not. I like pan sexual people, I think they are blessed in some way. Just my opinion. 
*Like = shag. just In case | |||
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"Says the straight, white, male, who fits neatly into a prescribed category." Not just straight. But “STRAIGHT”. A troll like post not worthy of someone who claims to be a gentleman. The definitions of sexualities and genders are readily available, make yourself a nicer person and try to understand them. V x | |||
"No, pan includes all genders, not just m and f. " Neither does bisexual | |||
"Bi sexual implies there are only two genders. " No it doesn’t | |||
"Pansexual is not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity. Bisexuality is defined as “experiencing sexual attraction to two or more genders” while pansexuality is “experiencing sexual attraction to people of all genders or regardless of gender.” In essence, bisexuality is where you can list the genders you find attractive (such as “I like men and women” or “I like women and non-binary people”) while pansexuals like people of all genders, or they may feel that gender is not a factor in their attraction. "This | |||
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"I just know what I like. I’m not too fussed about how I describe my sexuality but my gender is male with a capital A. " Ale???  | |||
"I just know what I like. I’m not too fussed about how I describe my sexuality but my gender is male with a capital A. Ale??? "my man! Exactamondo!! | |||
"Your post clearly shows a lack of knowledge and understanding... considering you’re straight why would it concern you how others define themselves? Maybe have a read on the subject before you make such a flippant statement. You can’t get away from it What is it now, 72 genders, but a person is still only straight, bi or gay" What about asexual? | |||
"Says the straight, white, male, who fits neatly into a prescribed category. Not just straight. But “STRAIGHT”. A troll like post not worthy of someone who claims to be a gentleman. The definitions of sexualities and genders are readily available, make yourself a nicer person and try to understand them. V x " STRAIGHT!!!!!!! | |||
"Your post clearly shows a lack of knowledge and understanding... considering you’re straight why would it concern you how others define themselves? Maybe have a read on the subject before you make such a flippant statement. You can’t get away from it What is it now, 72 genders, but a person is still only straight, bi or gay" Or PANSEXUAL, or asexual...i could go on.... Why do you care so much? Do other people's gender identity or sexuality affect You? Lu | |||
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"Bi sexual implies there are only two genders. No it doesn’t " Apologies - It was in the wee small hours and i'm not used to that. I shouldn't have said 'genders' | |||
"No, pan includes all genders, not just m and f. " So does bi. | |||
"Says the straight, white, male, who fits neatly into a prescribed category. Not just straight. But “STRAIGHT”. A troll like post not worthy of someone who claims to be a gentleman. The definitions of sexualities and genders are readily available, make yourself a nicer person and try to understand them. V x STRAIGHT!!!!!!! "I think it’s for the avoidance of doubt | |||
"Bi sexual implies there are only two genders. " No it doesn’t. The definition has always been two or more genders. | |||
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"Your post clearly shows a lack of knowledge and understanding... considering you’re straight why would it concern you how others define themselves? Maybe have a read on the subject before you make such a flippant statement. You can’t get away from it What is it now, 72 genders, but a person is still only straight, bi or gay" People are very plainly not only straight, bi or gay. You were complaining in your first post about people “making up” new sexualities, now you’re complaining there aren’t enough? Seems like you’re trolling. | |||
"Bi sexual implies there are only two genders. No it doesn’t. The definition has always been two or more genders." Yup. People tend to get hung up on the etymology of the word but it’s never been limited to two genders. It kind of amuses me that when it comes to bisexual, everyone’s a linguist but no one ever questions the word television | |||
"Why do people need a label anyway, why can’t the just be themselves and enjoy life" I think it would be easier to get rid of the sexuality tick boxes. It's irrelevant and just causes issues. People lie anyway. | |||
"Why do people need a label anyway, why can’t the just be themselves and enjoy life" Because we seek out like minded people and labels in some cases form identities I don't think I've ever met a person who doesn't label themselves somehow, that would be an interesting conversation | |||
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"Why do people need a label anyway, why can’t the just be themselves and enjoy life Because we seek out like minded people and labels in some cases form identities I don't think I've ever met a person who doesn't label themselves somehow, that would be an interesting conversation " Good point. “Why do you need labels” only ever seems to be directed at people who have a sexuality or gender seen as outside the norm. No-one ever questions why cis people label themselves as “man” or “woman”, or why someone calls themself “British” or “Scottish”, but those are labels too. | |||
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"I've always identified more as bisexual than pansexual. Mostly because I see a lot about pansexual people saying gender is irrelevant to them. For me it isn't and I'm attracted to men and women in different ways. There's a lot of shit that gets thrown around about bisexual being transphobic which is a load of rubbish. You even get it from the LGBTQ+ community. I've never specified that I'm only attracted to those assigned the correct gender at birth. People don't call heterosexual or homosexual people transphobic due to their sexuality with even close to as much frequency as they do with bisexuality. " That’s why I identify as bi, too. That and the fact that I’ve done so since I was a teenager and it’s comfortable for me! But I like different things about different genders. | |||
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"I've always identified more as bisexual than pansexual. Mostly because I see a lot about pansexual people saying gender is irrelevant to them. For me it isn't and I'm attracted to men and women in different ways. There's a lot of shit that gets thrown around about bisexual being transphobic which is a load of rubbish. You even get it from the LGBTQ+ community. I've never specified that I'm only attracted to those assigned the correct gender at birth. People don't call heterosexual or homosexual people transphobic due to their sexuality with even close to as much frequency as they do with bisexuality. " The worst I’ve seen have been LGBTQ ‘safe spaces’ where the L G and P love to try to label bi folks as transphobic. In my experience cis het spaces are more transphobic than biphobic, although the stigma attached to bi guys on those (here included) is pretty bad | |||
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"Sexuality is about your sexual feelings, thoughts, attractions and behaviours towards other people. You can find other people physically, sexually or emotionally attractive, and all those things are a part of your sexuality. Sexuality is diverse and personal, and it is an important part of who you are. I think you are confusing gender and sexuality. Just because you don’t understand something you cannot deem it wrong or false. I don’t understand quantum physics yet I don’t challenge it’s validity." I’m not confusing them, it is explained enough, others are. Sexuality transcends all, you can like who or what you like, but you cannot change physical gender by thought alone, the physical form can be touched and has a physical mass, that’s undeniable, wanting your cock to be a pussy can’t change it, gender is gender.A state of mind can take you anywhere, and exploring your sexuality is something we all do. You can be any sexuality you want and change second by second, but your physical form will remain the same. This is where the use of the term 100 genders comes up against opposition. | |||
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"I've had masses of prejudice and abuse from the LGBT community in the past for saying I was Bi. Apparently I'm really just gay but won't admit it. "They can be very curl and quick to judge,,, have a hug bab,,,, ha ha | |||
"Sexuality is about your sexual feelings, thoughts, attractions and behaviours towards other people. You can find other people physically, sexually or emotionally attractive, and all those things are a part of your sexuality. Sexuality is diverse and personal, and it is an important part of who you are. I think you are confusing gender and sexuality. Just because you don’t understand something you cannot deem it wrong or false. I don’t understand quantum physics yet I don’t challenge it’s validity. I’m not confusing them, it is explained enough, others are. Sexuality transcends all, you can like who or what you like, but you cannot change physical gender by thought alone, the physical form can be touched and has a physical mass, that’s undeniable, wanting your cock to be a pussy can’t change it, gender is gender.A state of mind can take you anywhere, and exploring your sexuality is something we all do. You can be any sexuality you want and change second by second, but your physical form will remain the same. This is where the use of the term 100 genders comes up against opposition. " I think that you need to do some research about gender disphoria. I’m going to be gentle about this without assuming and hope that a bit of education and maybe empathy will go a long way with this | |||
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"I asked the question due to my daughter asking, she is 11, and she believes one of her friends changes what she is every week, because she things it’s trendy, she never expresses any interest in and gender accept boys. And wow I’m called names by so called liberal people. I’m called a troll, if someone has a difference of opinion, then acceptance of that opinion is where people move forward, throwing your toys out the pram is rather pathetic and just creates distance, being abusive will help no one, grow up ! Back in the 90s dance scene, gay clubs were some of the best places to go, and clubs in general where everybody mixed and had a great time. I still have gay friends to this day from that period, I recall having one of my best nights in Manchester after meeting a TV dresses as a nun on rollerblades. I do find it strange that people sit around and think up new names and labels. I believe the confusion among society is the miss use of the word gender, Kids go to a biology lesson which clearly points out male and female, because there simply isn’t any more, 100s of sexualitys there may be, change as your mood takes you, but if we all burn in a fire, our bones and DNA will show male from female, no matter how you identified yourself when alive, sexuality is a state of mind or feeling you have, and yes I have had this chat many times with gay friends. You can mentally be who you want or choose and good on you, but if you can just change gender by identifying as such, then I at 7-8 years old would be spider-man or superman, but I didn’t because I can’t, I can’t be spider man, and men can’t have periods or have a baby ( yet ) Finding happiness is one of the most difficult things to in this world, so do what makes you happy. " People absolutely do misuse the word gender. Biology is our biological sex. Gender is something different. For most they're connected but for many they are not. | |||
"Sexuality is about your sexual feelings, thoughts, attractions and behaviours towards other people. You can find other people physically, sexually or emotionally attractive, and all those things are a part of your sexuality. Sexuality is diverse and personal, and it is an important part of who you are. " Brilliant comment! Personally my romantic and sexual attractions are disconnected and I'm actually less sexually attracted to the gender I'm most romantically attracted to. There's alot of lack of awareness that these things aren't automatically aligned. | |||
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"Lacey Red corrected you on your gender assumption OP. I’d also like proffer that sexuality isn’t a one time decision. So if someone is changing their mind, especially a young adult or teen, I’d be inclined to suggest support and patience. It could be attention but it could also be some very difficult and confusing thoughts. Our job is to be educated. Learning about biology, gender and sexuality together can be time well spent. Vx " I concur, nicely said | |||
"Lacey Red corrected you on your gender assumption OP. I’d also like proffer that sexuality isn’t a one time decision. So if someone is changing their mind, especially a young adult or teen, I’d be inclined to suggest support and patience. It could be attention but it could also be some very difficult and confusing thoughts. Our job is to be educated. Learning about biology, gender and sexuality together can be time well spent. Vx " Sexuality can evolve over time too. I'm far more physically into men now than I was when I was younger. | |||
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I am just lost.
So, I’ll say if you fancy me, I am okay with that, I just need your name and I’ll talk to you.
* Take your shoes off and leave your label at the door. | |||
